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Hey, I'm a liberal (with the exception I believe people

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Hey, I'm a liberal (with the exception I believe people should own any kind of gun they want unless they're a violent criminal). I think gay marriage is fine, drugs should be legal, transgenders should have equal rights, and if someone prefers to be referred to as a gender they weren't born with then that's their right as well. I'm an atheist but anybody should be allowed to practice whatever religion they believe in unhindered, and no one should push their beliefs on others. I also believe SJWs are trash and should be ignored, and I wholly believe they are the reason Trump won. They give real liberals like myself such a shitty name, and are just as bad as the far right. They embrace censorship and shove it down everyone's throats, they're as bad as the people they are going against.

I believe all this and dislike the fact that Trump is in the white house (though I'd dislike hillary just as much) but you can't say trump isn't sticking to his promises. I'm impressed by that. I'm interested to see how the next few years turn out. Anyone in the same camp as me?
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>>720463574
I also believe the BLM group has de-legitimized themselves over the course of a few months and I wouldn't be far from calling them a social terrorism group that has no effective outcome other than to bully and harass people thay don't deserve it. Much like SJWs
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Shocking. A leftist comes along that isn't an SJW punching bag and no one has shit to say
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>>720463574
Yeah Im liberal and I agree with all of your points
though I did hate all the candidates this election
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>>720465102
They were all shit. But like I said Drumpf has been in office only a week? And he's really sticking to his shit. It's kind of impressive.

All my friends are either indifferent or pooping their pants and I feel like I'm sitting on the sidelines thinking I'm excited to see what happens in the next 4-8 years.
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>>720465478
yeah this definitely will be interesting to say the least
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>>720463574
What rights don't the transgendered have that every other American does?
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>>720463574
So basically you're just another racist who believes in democracy for Whites. Cool. Now go stand in a fire.
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>>720463574
respect from the other side for you bro
more people like you need to speak their opinions for the libs, we understand that not all libs are shrieking sjws but they are louder than you and therefore get the attention
we may disagree on a thing or two but we would be able to debate peacefully about those differences and work together to find solutions, that is what america is about, and that's what it needs.
also excited to see what the future holds
in the end we are all just shitlords
much love /b/ro
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>>720465851
Not OP but what I mean is that if the trans person passes, they should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as.
other wise you get big FTM people in the womens room
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>>720465851
Personally I think bathroom rights. I think they should freely be able to use whatever restroom they want. The only argument I've heard is "well I don't want a 40 year old person with a penis using the same bathroom as a little girl. I don't see any outrage for a gay man or lesbian using the same bathroom as a young person of their gender or orientation.

On the flip side of the coin, just claiming your trans can not be regulated. First reaction is to say well make a different bathroom for them but that's excluding them from feeling "normal", which I'd say most trans people do want to feel. It's a very difficult situation and unfortunately all you ever see is the extreme side of both points of view - "gas the degenerates" or "shitlord is oppressing me".
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>>720463574
You're not a liberal. Join the Resistance. Be the change.
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>>720466179
What am I? Based off my post
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>>720463574
Another run-of-the-mill supporter of White Supremacy who thinks he's "enlightened" cause he drives a fucking Prius, but left his backbone in his other pants.
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>>720466259
according to other people here you would be a moderate leaning on the left
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>>720463574
>>720465102
>>720465925
>>720466027
>>720466167
>>720466259
>>720466299
>>720466330


liberalism is not a form of government it is the celebration and encouragement of victimization
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>>720466299
In what way do you think I'm a white supremacist?
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As long as you don't try to impose your beliefs on others through legislation or indoctrination I am fine with it. Radical liberals and bible thumping conversvatives are scum.
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>>720466456

http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/


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>>720466793

did you know all conservative means is you are accountable for your personal success and the government shouldnt baby you

it is not whatever you thought it was

wow learning on 4chan
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>>720466793
OP agrees
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>>720463574
The left has dug it's own grave really. With political correctness, BLM, fake news, and favouring establishment candidates over those who favour the majority over the rich minority. It's a shame really, Trump was better than Hillary and who knows, he might be good overall. It's happening all over the west, the left has betrayed the people so the people are turning to the right. Often neither are good enough. You can't just expect politicians to do what's best for the people, they probably won't
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>>720466819
You're right nor is he trying to divide us. You're the ones doing all the dividing by not accepting the elected president.
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>>720466167
Just make all bathrooms single person ones. Solves the problem. Companies pass the cost along by raising their prices for cost of construction and loss of space.
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>>720466955
I agree with you, that the ridiculousness of the radical left has really pushed people away. I still believe in the things I said in my OP, and it's a shame SJWs exist. I have no idea when the left embraced censorship, it used to be what we fought against and it honestly makes me sad.
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>>720466886
guess you skipped over the bible thumping part. Nothing wrong with conservatives or liberals when they stay in their own lane. Just the extremes which both has.
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Sjws are the only reason the dems lost, they let them drive the narrative and made the whole party repugnant to most reasonable people. Sjw types are to the Democratic Party as the klan is to republicans, and they must be expunged.
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>>720463574
Stopped reading after you said "Hey, I'm a liberal"

Your kind are the fucking scum of the earth and need to be put in fucking death camps.

Burn in hell you fucking traitors.
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>>720466456
Liberalism is a philosophy that acknowledges a central truth often discarded in the West that we are all intrinsically and irrevocably bound. We operate on a central creed that believes The well-being of my neighbor is my well being. The protection of the earth is non-negotiable because it is all there is. It is all of us, whether we stand on its soil or not. Conservatives meanwhile believe that materials of this world exist solely for the exploitation of man, or the individual self as seperate from the expansive multifaceted organism of awareness that is all of existence.
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>>720463574
Nicely put Anon.. I too am of the "ODies" Old Democrats.
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>>720467184
>guess you skipped over the bible thumping part.

Your theory is that there is no right answer in politics, there is a right answer, there is only one political party in the United States it's called the Republican party

Conservatives were created to keep retards such as yourself out of employment and out of business, so that you'd sit around, jerking other men's dicks, attaching labels to the only real political party, calling them bibles, racists, Nazis, the entire point of Liberalism is to make you even more handicapped than you already are

>>720467270
>Liberalism is a philosophy

Liberalism is a philosophy thats a good way of putting it. It has nothing to do with politics. You're convinced you are a victim, and have to wait for the government to give you things.

Nobody who has high enough IQ to go read the definition for Republican and Democrat would actually be a Liberal. This is the IQ test, fall below it, and you're probably a nigger / queer / female
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>>720463574
>>720464123
kudos for speaking the truth
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>>720467245
Read the rest. We have more in common than you think
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>>720467270
Right, so how do you rationalize your support of Islam which is not good for freedom, women or gays?
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>>720467270
Brainwashed pleb. You are the problem and all that think like you. Central truth bs.
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>>720467270
I ran away from the liberals after all this SJW, "sensitivity," BLM, feminism, anti-gun crap over recent years. Get rid of all that stuff and I'd be fine with liberals. Not every white man is racist and sexist and I don't see anything wrong with saying "ALL lives matter" if they don't then you're basically saying "you don't matter" which is about as far from equality as you can get
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>>720467378
Tea Party is the right party. Republicans have sold use out since 41 and the Democrats were even worse. Ron Paul would have corrected the course, but he lost. Thankfully Trump won and purges all of America from you Neo-Cons and Schumer/ Reid Dumbocrats.
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>>720467472
>Right, so how do you rationalize your support of Islam which is not good for freedom, women or gays?

This sort of outrageous bullshit could only have come from somebody equipped with Liberal ideas, somebody has to "support Islam," what the fuck does that even mean? He has bake sales for Islam?

Liberalism takes the most retarded portions of society, the gays, the women, and the niggers, and puts them so far out of whack, that the only thing they can hope to achieve is aiming to reduce the productivity of people who are likely already ignoring their ass

>>720467661
>Tea Party is the right party. Republicans have sold use out since 41 and the Democrats were even worse. Ron Paul would have corrected the course, but he lost. Thankfully Trump won and purges all of America from you Neo-Cons and Schumer/ Reid Dumbocrats.

i literally dont understand a single fucking thing you said, and by seeking to understand it, id just become you, 300 LBS, in a lawn chair, putting my fat body in the way of people thinking that will make them fight me
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>>720467590
I'm a liberal and this is my exact sentiment. SJW and BLM are the minority, but they are the loudest minority. It's sad because it's turned a lot of us away and made us look awful in turn. They're scum, and they've ruined us.
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>>720467378
btw, it's lables and not labels, the more you know. learningrainbow.gif
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>>720467788
they really are awful groups. I wish there was a way to make them realize how stupid they look to other people/groups
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With the views you have expressed you sound more like a true libertarian then anything bro.
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Daily reminder that most liberals hate SJWs, Black lives matter, censorship, and tumblrites
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>>720467804

? youre wrong but im supposed to fight you on basis of you already being wrong

>>720467788
>I'm a liberal

oh so youre a dumb fucking nigger queer female who is even more fucking retarded and worthless than you would have been good to know
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>>720467804
i'm not sure about that, fam
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>>720467958
>Daily reminder that most liberals hate SJWs

that will never stick since the definition of liberal is literally the group that creates, enables, and motivates the self victimization of these groups

Liberalism is literally the cancer that spawned these cancer rats and youre going to "daily remind us" that no it isnt

Yes, it is, you retarded fucking fag, go learn what liberalism is, not what grandma said to you at thanksgiving, go learn what it is you retarded fucking queer
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>>720468063
Liberals really do hate sjws though. They're in their own group of fucked.
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>>720468212
>Liberals really do hate sjws though.

LIBERALISM IS SJW YOU RETARDED FUCKING FAGGOT

WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM DESTROYING MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE REAL LIFE DEFINITION OF LIBERALISM NOTHING GO KILL YOURSELF
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>>720468269
I'm a liberal.

I hate SJWs. Kek.

>mad
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>>720466626
I call you a White Supremacist because you support reinforcing old structures of White Supremacy. You piss about Social Justice Warriors, the plights of marginalized folks whose concerns have been virtually ignored in this country- while aggrandizing the plight of White Men or White Trans or White Gay issues. All while throwing shade on efforts to confront White Supremacy and the effects it has brought to all people of color in this country. You call yourselves a liberal but don't believe Black Lives Matter. You believe in moderated progress. You remind me of so many hacks I've met who want to stand for something but don't want to piss off mom and dad. Grow a fucking spine. Movements like BLM are needed when we've forgotten that our incarceration system is a relic of Slavery and Jim Crow. People fighting and protesting in the streets for equal pay and respect for women's rights are needed when men the world over have sold women around like property for a millennia.
Progress belongs be here it is needed most. And most progress begins through civil conflict and revolt, not acquiescence.
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>>720468340

YOURE AN AUTO MECHANIC WHO DOESNT MECHANIC CARS AND PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE NOTE OF YOU, YOURE JUST THE RETARDED LITTLE KID IN A WHEELCHAIR DROOLING ON HIMSELF, WHO SPENDS MORE TIME PROMOTING HIS MISUNDERSTANDING OF POLITICS THAN HE SPENDS 20 SECONDS LEARNING THE ACTUAL DEFINITION

>>720468435
>I call you a White Supremacist because you support reinforcing old structures of White Supremacy

GO KILL YOURSELF

ALL OF THE FUCK UPS IN THIS THREAD AND IN REAL LIFE WERE SPAWNED BY LIBERALISM WHOA LIBERALISM IS SO GOOD
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>>720468435
B8 so hard
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>>720468527
I'm a liberal and I hate black lives matter, sjws, and 3rd wave feminism. Kek.

>even more mad.
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>>720463574
>socialist
>supported Bern
>fuck yeah guns
>fuck no sjws
>Obamacare is the devil
>fuck the tpp
>awe yeah, renegotiate that nafta
>build a wall, idgaf. I'd support shooting on sight, they're breaking the law and are likely smuggling drugs anyway
>voted trump

So far I'm fairly pleased. Environment is about to get rapped to all hell which isn't sitting right with me. However, I have no doubt the economy is about to do very well and America will thrive the next couple years under our capitalist system, flawed as it might be.
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>>720468753
Well I didn't vote trump, or anyone for that matter, but you're about spot on.

I feel like there are a lot more left leaning people that are just like me especially when it comes to social issues, but we kind of just stay quiet, and the loud mouthed tumblrites are the only ones making us look bad. Like I said earlier, they are completely delegitimizing us and it's sad as fuck.
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>>720468708
>I'm a liberal and I hate black lives matter, sjws,

Liberalism is literally, do you understand that word or are you too fucking retarded, liberalism is literally victimization and accusations, it it not a form of government

Did you watch the debates? It's not Hillary's "style" this is literally what liberalism is, giving yourself victim status, and throwing out accusations

There is no actual logic, or politics, or anything real behind liberalism you dumb fucking fag, and you think youre a liberal who doesnt do anything actually related to liberalism, nobody cares you have to say youre liberal or your family will throw you out of their home that's your problem.

You, right here, right now, spending your own personal time, your family can't see this, you promoting your own misunderstanding of what Liberalism is, that's on you you retarded fucking fag. This is you and you are accountable for your behavior right now. your family cant see you doing this

You're not going to gain anything from convincing me liberalism has nothing to do with liberalism, the next person you see on the street isn't going to be under the misconceptions youre trying to inject me with now, you dumb piece of shit, this is how retarded you are

>>720468938
>I feel like there are a lot more left leaning people that are just like me

There is no left leaning Liberalism is literally the act of victimizing yourself and throwing out accusations in order to tie up people's time

You dont even know what Liberalism is and yet you call yourself a liberal
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With Trump it feels like racial tensions are taking a backseat and are slightly subsiding which they're still going to simmer or approach boiling point at a moments notice, either because of a cop doing something stupid or a someone of some shade of color doing something stupid and getting killed fanning the flames of racial tensions since so many people are already convinced of that all cops are bad etc..

The thing that worries me is Trumps attitude towards the climate and how he seemingly wants to just make a profit at the expense of the environments future. Then there's how he's dealing with Mexico a consequence we're seeing is avocados are halted from being shipped to america from Mexico. This may not seem like a big deal but the price for avocados will skyrocket which restaurants/products that use them will raise their prices. You might say California can export more however care for the avocado tree requires a lot of water and California is still coming back from a serious water crisis also California can't necessarily keep up with demand as far as avocados go in America.
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Trying to categorize your political beliefs is stupid and a waste of time. It creates a divide and people always argue about whos side is better. I have multiple beliefs that fall under every category. I've seen alot of people take stances on issues based on nothing but their political "label" without researching a subject at all. Why even create these groups.
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>>720467590
"All Lives Matter"
Only reasserts White Supremacy by censoring a movement by Black Peoples and allies for the world to something more palatable to the volitale psyche of White America. If you cannot say Black Lives Matter with conviction without feeling threatened it may be because the term asserts a sense of equity that upsets the rules of your privilege. Admitting that another people or race or gender matters requires that person to take some sort of responsibility for the conditions they live under. I see that you would like to be considered a forward thinker but you're unwilling to take lead in saying "they too deserve a spot at the table" when you know it means that someone else who looks and thinks like you may not make the cut. That is the ugliest part about equity and privilege.
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>>720469037
>mad because someone who leans to the left of the political spectrum agrees with you

Sorry bud. 90% of the spotlight that is put on us, we want nothing to do with.
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>>720468938
I'm a socialist but I have a lot of mixed views from both sides. I keep quite about it. Only my close friends and some select family know I'm a socialist. Fewer know I'd support things like shooting at illegals crossing our boarders.

In today's world there's little be be gained from voicing your opinions publicly. No one party or politician is going to support what I do in full. Best thing a guy like me can do is keep quite and vote. Not just vote with a ballot but my wallet as well. What I purchase, or don't, speaks more than any vote I'll ever cast or rally I'll attend.
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>>720468527
B8 better
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>>720469178
>With Trump it feels like racial tensions are taking a backseat and are slightly subsiding which they're still going to simmer or approach boiling point at a moments notice, either because of a cop doing something stupid

No single police officer, anywhere, no single person, of any profession, anywhere, anywhere, has that much power, to cause "racial tensions"

The term is called a JEW

A JEW is a person who has inbred with his own family members for 4,000 years and now owns all the media and seeks to destroy, has already destroyed society for his own profit

Do you know the church shooter? There have been tons of people who believe what you believe, that "one single person can start race war," and yet none of them have.

>>720469208
>Trying to categorize your political beliefs is stupid and a waste of time.

Good you learned the truth that liberalism is not a form of government it is the act of self victimization and throwing out accusations to tie up people's time

>>720469321
>"All Lives Matter"
>Only reasserts White Supremacy

Go kill yourself youll feel better

>>720469329
>Sorry bud. 90% of the spotlight that is put on us, we want nothing to do with

How fucking dumb do you have to be to not want to be associated with the party you decided to be associated with, like why cant people do some research before picking sides

I bet you even higher than that, probably 98% of liberals would no longer be liberals if they knew what it means
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>>720463574
>Yfw when supporting gun rights IS Liberal.
C-c-c-c-Constitution
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>>720469469
Nope, not at all. As a liberal, and I'm sorry if this misconception doesn't fit your view, but the second amendment is there for us to protect ourselves from our government and should fully be upheld.

>>720469457
You don't get it my man. I don't want the small tumblr minority associated with MY party. You spend too much time on 4chan. It's not the other way around.
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>>720468527
This dude is so angered by reason. Go back to Breitfart news and get your blood pressure under control.
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>>720469457
Yeah, not a single person can. That's not going to stop an angry person of color from going out and shooting a cop who likely was a very nice guy and not racist whatsoever in turn pissing off more cops who go out and risk their lives on a daily basis. It doesn't have to happen on a national scale for it to not be important in some regard.
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>>720469457
Post the whole quotes, you preening cocksplat.
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>>720465478
For future reference don't say "Drumpf" People will automatically think your a brainwashed John Oliver dick rider.
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>>720469857
I'll keep that in mind, I did say it ironically.
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A liberal who isn't a Sjw cuck wow that rare
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>>720469690
>You don't get it my man.

fuck off queer

>>720469694
>This dude is so angered by reason.

Providing reason is the first step, but of course, since youre a dumb fucking faggot, you can claim you did and "win"

>>720469809
>Post the whole quotes, you preening cocksplat.

This isnt even a sentence i'm assuming youre a young man of homosexual orientation
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>>720469969
Yes. SJWs piss me off even worse than the far right if not only because of how bad they make the left look. It's absolutely infuriating
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>>720468527
All those caps.
>triggered
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>>720469969
>A liberal who isn't a Sjw cuck wow that rare
because its literally the opposite of the definition of liberalism, but of course, being so fucking retarded you have to crusade a form of politics you can't research the definition of should be celebrated as "being unique"

illiteracy is not supposed to be praised, what, liberals already gave people who can't read books their own victim status and crusades?

tell me how the white man prevented you from picking up a fucking book

>>720470112
>Yes. SJWs piss me off even worse than the far right

There is no far right far left all you have is politics and sock puppets, self assigned victims, Liberalism literally is a sock puppet created by the rich to keep you being a victim instead of being successful
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>>720470191
You have such a cucked, pathetic view of the left because of what OP was referencing.

youve been baited to oblivion and youll never redeem yourself. the sjws got ya. triggered
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>>720470420
>You have such a cucked

go shoot yourself
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>>720470503
Waahhhh wahhhhhhhh

>not every leftist is an SJW

Wahhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhh
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>>720466027
That is not a right, for anyone; male, female. Plus they have always used the bathroom of their choice. It was never an issue, until they decided it was. But it is not a right.
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>>720465102
O'Malley seemed like a good guy. Too bad he didn't get any attention at all.
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>>720465851
Don't bluescreen libtards please.
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>>720466167
There is no such think as "bathroom rights." Nobody has the right to use a particular bathroom, male or female.
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>>720466027
>>720466167

I think the argument was more along the lines of: There are obviously predators in society that will take advantage of new opportunities afforded to them. Theoretically, and IMO most likely, there will be a man on a Tuesday declare that he's a woman on Wednesday, and then back to a man on Thursday in order to prey on someone.

Regardless, it could only be enforced in public building such as courthouses and Federal buildings, because if I own the building, you don't have a right to shit in my bathroom in the first place.

But lets not forget, the left has taken this and other fringe causes to be their new voter base. What is the percentage of Americans that are transgendered anyway? Less than half a percent? Personally, I love that the left is making these issues their platform since it will lead to their further collapse.
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>>720470601
>Waahhhh wahhhhhhhh

go shoot yourself

>not every leftist is an SJW

I can accept that 98%, as i said, of Liberals, would not be Liberals, if you actually knew what it was
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>>720470782
Hence make every restroom non gendered or whatever. Just assign it "bathroom" problem solved. As a straight make I don't really want to be taking a massive shit next to another guy either. Make it more private.
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>>720463574
OP... there is very little difference between libtards and republicunts...we are ALL mostly Libertarian.

It's the stupid little things that seperate us, and they are USUALLY the things that the left bitches about.

Everybody already has equal rights. Period. Unless you are part of Washington, then you have more.
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>>720470952
OP here. Am I a libertarian?
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>>720470952
>OP... there is very little difference between libtards and republicunts

Republicans are a political party, Liberalism, is the assignment of victim status and the act of wasting peoples time with accusations

Liberalism was created by the wealthy to keep the most disadvantaged in their place, rather than to gain money and success
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>>720470905
That is one way to fix it and I would enjoy single use bathrooms, I don't like anyone next to me as well. But its a private matter, the owner of such bathrooms should make that decision. Not the government.
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>>720471042
Wahhhhhhhh waahhhhhhhhhhh
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>>720471042
This is true.
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>>720466167
The whole bathroom rights issue is just an outcry for the people who have mental issues.

There should be SIX bathroom groups, which should be enough to calm the miscreants;

Men
Women
Now Men
Now Women
Family
Other
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>>720466819
Fuck off Shia Fellator.
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>>720471095
>Wahhhhhhhh waahhhhhhhhhhh

You think thats worth repeating, like youre this fucking dumb, youre an adult, who uses his communication to spam "WAHHHH" and you think that makes you "win," you cant see that you yourself degraded yourself, you put yourself in the hole youre in now, and eventually when you've dug yourself a deep enough hole, I will be the reason you did so. Liberalism 101

As dumb as you are I think you actually have a good grasp of what liberalism is. You just dont want to be held accountable for being liberal, because youre liberal
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>>720471159
Make it more simple. Man, woman, family, and unlabeled except for bathroom.
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>>720471159
True, about the mental issues.

But, just: Men, Women.

It is not broken, doesn't need fixing.
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>>720471035
I believe so.
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>>720467472
How do I rationalize the support of over a billion people on this planet most of whom I have not met or ever been personally hurt by? I think a better question is how does one support any religion at all as anything other than a method for mass control. But in so far that I believe in the importance of faith, I know that if we validate one baseless doctrine then we should validate people's choice to follow any god or religion that they choose in so far as they do not use it to bring harm onto other people. Pope Francis reminds the world that the guiding principle of Islam as with all the faiths is Love. And by every measure those Muslims I've met have been true to this creed and are lovely incredible people. I am not responsible for those who pervert those teachings. I personally believe that the warped principles of a contorted Christian faith has oppressed more people on this planet, from slavery to Hiroshima, than Islam ever has. I have more issues with the governments, and murderers who pervert a particular creed than I have with any one religion.
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>>720471253
>>720471253
Not that guy, but yeah.

Wahh

The problem is is that you're getting too mad. OP is saying there's problems with his part he admits to and dislikes. You're swooping in and attacking him even for that even though he's agreeing with you on points. You're a parody of yourself. So yeah

>wahh
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>>720471301
No, I want to see the six.

Mostly because I want to see what OTHER fucked-up excuses the crybabies find to claim that their rights are being shat upon.

What would be next?

Pedos Only?

Beastiality Friendly?
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>>720471253
>WAHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>720471553
You're right, they would find something else. That is the sickness of those people, they think everything should be a right.
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>>720471505
You need to take your blinders off and learn more History. Islam is the most violent cult ever followed.

The words of Charles Manson, Jim Jones and Adolph Hitler have killed FAR less people than the words of Allah....and far more than that of Jesus.
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>>720468708
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>>720464123
You must be a "Social Terrorism Snowflake"
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>>720471917
Kek I guess I'm like a mulatto of the political spectrum
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I feel that we have alot in common.
I fit in the middle ground between the 2 i think.

I beleive in trans and gay rights, but i think they should keep their lifestyle from young children because mother-father relationships are proven better for raising children.

I beleive drugs should be legalised but again kept away from children. And also to be all around discouraged.

I dont sympathise with fetuses

I have bias against mexicans, i live in southern california and was offen bullied for being white/american from mexican students.

I like trump enough, i also liked obama. I think its important to get perspective of both sides of the argument.

I think conservitives and liberals have alot in common and the media is trying to devide us with confirmation bias.
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>>720468435
Hahaha this is gold. Almost copypasta material. You are the problem libtards are having right now. I hope you keep it up because if you do, there will never be another democrat ever to be elected to the White House again.
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Relevant:

https://youtu.be/PFEyFlRljss
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>>720471505
>I think a better question is how does one support any religion at all

You have two options to correct this timeline, one is now gone. Adolf Hitler, rest in peace, was your first option. The last, and final option is Islam. Only Islam can free you from the grip of queers, feminists, European faggotry and Jews

Don't let Islam go the way you let Adolf Hitler slide from your hands

Islam is the last and final opportunity you have to correct this timeline

>>720471531
>Not that guy, but yeah.
>Wahh

not that guy but you can still shoot yourself like what, you thought i'd spend time on you. Liberals are this fucking dumb

>>720471608
shoot yourself

>>720471844
being liberal without being held accountable for being liberal is the worst, and ultimately, most qualified liberal

>>720471837
>You need to take your blinders off and learn more History. Islam is the most violent cult ever followed.

Islam coincidentally is the last remaining cure to your faggot dyke horseshit. You wouldnt be per-emptively attempting to disable it just so you can destroy humanity would you.

>>720471982
you are not a "mulatto of a political spectrum" youre a dumb fucking faggot who can't research the definitions of things he claims to endorse

This, and all liberal problems would be solved by employment

>>720472008
>I feel that we have alot in common.
>I fit in the middle ground between the 2 i think.

there is no middle ground between liberal and republican, you are either thinking of "middle class" or "doesnt want to be held accountable either way."

Republican represents the rich, Liberals represent the sock puppet created by the rich used to convince you youre a victim and to tie up other people's time, creating a self- enforced lower class that doesn't become rich itself
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>>720469457
This proud racist POS tells me to kill myself but never says I'm wrong.
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>>720472214
>This proud racist POS

go shoot yourself
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>>720463574
>I believe people should own any kind of gun they want unless they're a violent criminal)
>unless they're a violent criminal
How tf are you gonna know if someone's a violent criminal unless you give them guns and wait for them to shoot up Walgreens?!
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>>720463574

Generally agree. SJWs are trash, but I think that the internet has amplified their voices/effects beyond what is actually happening in the real world. I don't have a problem with Trump sticking to his promises because he won. I'd rather he did; if he didn't, it would result in more people who feel completely disaffected in government.
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>>720466955

The left hasn't betrayed the people. The people rejected the left, and so it changed. Between 1972 and 1992, Democrats won a single presidential election, and that was after the sitting Republican president resigned in disgrace and his unelected successor pardoned him. People like Blair and Bill Clinton aren't betraying liberalism, they are reactions to people who rejected it.
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>>720471253
>>720471042
>>720472190

Sides hurt. Can someone cap these posts for future threads as the great wahhening? Holy shit
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>>720472253
No thanks. How bout I fuck and merry your daughter and we wait for you to die of high blood pressure and hemorrhoid bleeding by the age of 45.
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>>720472190
>>720472190
Identity politics is stupid and your stupid for believing in it. You are supposed to form opinions about individual issues

There is tons of middle ground but you never consern your self with it cause its not as fun to argue on the internet about.

How about you think for yourself instead of fallowing the heard like a sheep.
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>>720472753
>ignore all wahh posts
>sage all wahhposting
>hide all wahhthreads
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>>720472704
>No thanks. How bout I fuck and merry your daughter

You being part of my bloodline is a nice fantasy to have, that actually happening, I dont have to spend the time entertaining. Unfortunately i know how to deal with liberal trash, you take a bat, you beat the shit out of you, and your mouth stops moving

>>720472753
>Identity politics is stupid and your stupid for believing in it.

Yup but youre not just stupid for being liberal, youre stupid for a lot of reasons. being liberal was the only one you were willing to share.

I dont want to encourage you to keep talking, but if you did, we could find plenty reasons youre a retarded fucking faggot
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>>720472920
>>720472905

Wahh meme, my friend

>>720472253
>>720472190
>>720471253

Waaaahhhhhhhh
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>>720473052

That's not a meme that's literally an adult completely breaking down, and by breaking down, throwing away his self respect and image, thinking he "gains an upper hand"

This is the purest form of liberalism you will find
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>>720470952
Untrue. Those who have not crafted law for the majority of the last 300 years are not sufficiently protected by the law. This is reflected in our outdated justice system, our globally high incarceration rates, and the fruitless yet ongoing War on Drugs.
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>>720473052

Today, in 2017, liberals, will be crying, throwing a fit, because the opposition is the only one who can construct arguments, be intelligent, be researched and know what they're talking about.

In 2217, Liberals will be what Brazil is today. a rich rich upper class who does what they want, and you will be the dumb faggots shooting at police from your favelas and using drugs just to keep yourself from killing yourself

Liberalism is not a political ideology, it is the act of making yourself a victim, the act of creating barriers between yourself and where you could have been.
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>>720469970
Are the best insults you have calling people gay and stupid? I'm begining to think that you are too young for 4chan
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>>720473529
>Are the best insults

shoot yourself

>>720473490
war on drugs is to keep the prices high, your own government invaded Afghanistan to secure the opiate supply, Heroin killing all your friends shortly after the invasion of Afghanistan, in anytown USA, is not a "random accident"

the war on drugs serves a very real purpose, but if you think that purpose is to "stop drugs," that it is not
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>>720473701
Jesus fucking Christ, I am so convinced, I'm gonna go shoot myself cause some little kid who thinks he knows what he's talking about and has only 3 insults told me to go kill myself. Get off of 4chan, this is not a place for small children
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What the fuck is wrong with you shits? There are only two genders. The rest are made up for attention, and you only want the attention cause you're a pathetic little fuck who thinks that they're ugly.
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>>720467245
Someone sounds triggered

Need a safe space away from the yucky liberals?
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>>720468435
>white white white white white....

drink bleach you filthy racist!
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>>720473874
>Jesus fucking Christ, I am so convinced,

shoot yourself

>>720473952

We would actually benefit from having more genders so that women could see they're still the most shit one, even after there's a dozen different ones

Having more genders would show women how big assholes they are, how little they offer, and how they tie up everybody's happiness and comfort for themselves

I'm all for this 100 million different genders shit i literally dont care. I was never going to put my dick in any of these "transoctopus" retards, i think its a great way to fuck with people. I'm in on the joke, you are not, your problem not mine

>>720474092
HIV kills faggots niggers and women who have sex with faggots and niggers, this is why you wont hear anybody calling for a safe space from your predatory self victimization, because there are natural methods of getting rid of you
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>>720474509

You got stomped out, all the retarded shit you said that you thought people would "awe" at was shoved right back up your own ass, it's time for you to once again, tell people they are edgelords / trolled / baited / autistic, and now it's time for you to go masturbate to pictures of dudes wearing female underwear

By the way I hope you do go learn what liberalism is, you look fucking dumb promoting it, you probably do know what it is, but you dont want to be held accountable for identifying yourself as liberal so you pretend you dont know what it is

I think you actually do know what it is, but you dont want to deal with the fact that liberalism is just faggotry, so you want to be a faggot, but not be held accountable for being a faggot, this is called "bisexual"

Bisexuals are faggots who think they arent faggots, its essentially what youre doing

You called yourself mulatto but youre actually a "bisexual"

Being a fucking homo without taking accountability for being a fucking homo, this is known as "bisexual"
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>>720463574

I would say that I am. I'm a right-leaning libertarian who wants more deregulation in regards to economic affairs, and I agree on almost every point you made besides the transgender issue of self-identifying with a gender that does not align with their sex as those folks tend to do so for the sake of identity politics, and I don't think folks should act as something that they are biologically not, gender identity does not equal "hey I'm a tomboy so I should identify as male" etc. I think this detracts from people who are actually suffering from gender dysphoria and need treatment to resolve those issues. I am not aware of any human rights that trans folk don't possess, I have looked far and wide and most groups I've seen seem to be far left of center identititarian groups that are looking for "privileges" and not "rights". I discourage sex changes and other efforts to make the body adhere to the persons perceived gender, if the mind is ill (as in the case of gender dysphoria) it is the mind that must be healed, not the body.

I'm a history major so I voted for trump out of self interest, his administration will be making me a ton of money in about 30 years, and I like the prospect of term limits and strict immigration so Mexico can stop using the border as a political pressure valve to keep their corrupt government standing. That and he was the only person in the race who wanted to be fair with Russia and not constantly provoke them into open conflict.
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>>720466027

why not just have one bloody bathroom?
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>>720463574
I'm with you but also concerned about some of the weird shit him and his people are doing. It's all starting to look a little too shady.
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>>720469950
Irony is impossible to sense through the internet.
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>>720475132
I disagree with you on just about everything, but I'm intrigued by the way your brain works. I think we coulda been friends if I didn't know you voted for trump and against my existence. But I love how upfront you are about it. I wish more people were so conscious of their fucked up choices and owned it.
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>>720475132
Your understanding of transgenderism is not that great. I'm a tranny. I like video games. I program as a job. I like cars and motorcycles. These are things that I like that are typically masculine.

My body being masculine is awful though. By your standards I should be a man because I like man things, but I feel a disconnect from a masculine body where I identify with a feminine one more.

The best way I've ever heard dysphoria which is the feeling that people transition to alleviate is like being a squid in the sea and feeling shitty all the time. One day you get visited by the sea god and he offers to let you live on land for a day.

You go on land and it feels absolotely wonderful. That sick feeling that you've always had is now gone and the world seems so amazing. Then after a day you have to go back to live in the sea and you know whats wrong now. Before you never had words to really describe it, but living in the sea was making you extremely unhappy.

The United States Declaration of Independence states that you have the unalienable rights to the pursuit of Life, Liberty, and Happiness.

All I'm trying to do is to make myself happy. So far living as a woman does so the solution is working.
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>>720475428
What r they doing,
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>>720465925
DQ
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>>720463574
By drugs you are also mentioning crack and meth then
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>>720475656
>coulda been friends if I didn't know you voted for trump and against my existence.

first it is christianity, then the white man, then Western society, and now, finally, Donald Trump himself is going into your bedroom, putting on a glove, and taking your dick out of another faggot's ass and physically preventing you from being gay

I want to see what happens if i say this. Just to see if your head explodes

Did you know homosexuals are the Jewish form of suicide attacker? You give your life, your life is meaningless, youre promised all sorts of things, that your "homosexuality is being threatened" as long as you crusade whatever the Jews tell you to do, then you can keep being a fuckin homo

You're a brain dead, subhuman, retarded piece of shit, not because youre gay, well yes, because youre gay, but individually, because you dont think for yourself or act in your own interest. That's why youre subhuman.

You clutch onto a perceived eternal victim status in order to carry out any and all missions Jews tell you to do

Donald trump is not going to your shitty house, taking your dick out of a man's ass, and then duct taping the asshole shut, this is all in your mind you dumb fucking queer
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>>720475812
The gag orders. Blocking FCC from ending provider monopoly on cable boxes. Appointing extremely pro business executives to his cabinet who's history show the complete opposite of trumps populist talking points.
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>>720470715
He would have been awful. Dude was a joke when he was governor of Maryland
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>>720463574
Are you me?
Except for the reason i voted for trump is so i can see a noose around hillarys neck and he robbed me of it so FUCK TRUMP.
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>>720475959

I honestly believe that the solution to crack and meth is to treat it more like a disease. I don't think I know anybody with an addiction that likes it. They're trapped in their ways and they need help.

Putting people in jail and giving them a record won't help them and if anything increases their exposure to drugs because instead of being able to find gainful employment, they're slinging drugs on others to fund their own addiction.

We need a comprehensive reform on mental health and health-care for Americans and elevating people out of poverty so that their exposure to drugs and incentive to use them is lessened.
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>>720474984
I love how you literally assume that I am a liberal or that I support it in any way. Also, you dedicated a lot of your time to me, get a hobby man.
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>>720476221
Too much acceptance is never a good thing. Especially for those that take death willing and sell it off in the streets for a profit. Saying they need help is like saying a pedo needs help. They are nothinf more than stains on the world.
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>>720476035
Why don't you come out as gay for an expirement to your friends and family and record the entire thing for posterity.

Try holding another person of the same sexes hand in public and see all the nasty stares and disgust on peoples face.

There is no way you'd go through with it because you know that it'd fucking suck. You ever been beaten for something you can't control? You ever been disowned by family members just for being yourself.

Please I'd love to see you step into the shoes of a gay man and see how fast your mind changes. The most disgusting trait in a human being is hypocrisy. If you do it and you're fine and nothing bothers you then you're right, but you can't hold a belief like that without actually knowing anything.
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>>720476362
>I love how you literally assume

shoot yourself

>>720476498
>Why don't you come out as gay

shoot yourself

oh theres no actual responses okay back to the other thread
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>>720476605
Good, go spread your cancer somewhere else kek
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>>720476425
Sex with a minor is a crime. I'm not talking about legalizing fucking kids. Do you think pedos like being that way?

What if all day long you wanted to fuck kids and you knew that if you ever did you'd be ruining someones life. Wouldn't you feel like shit? There are strategies and coping methods that could be used.

Even if only 1 pedo decided to get help and join a program that doesn't demonize them. That is 1 child out there who won't have to experience one of the worst things possible.

Fucking kids should be illegal. Full stop.
Unconsesual sex should be illegal. Full stop.
Selling drugs should be illegal. Full stop.

If someone wants help to fix their life. We should be encouraging and helping them. An error is only a mistake if you realize it and don't fix it.
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>>720476035
White Supremacists are literally mentally challenged and deserve that much compassion. You are the victim, man. Our Voice and Action is the cure to your cancer.
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>>720476605
>can't have an argument with someone over a mongolian bbq pictogram bulletin board without giving up and attacking

How does it feel to not be able to put words to why I'm wrong?
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>>720476796
Kek dude, you are completely characterizing both pedos and addicts. Do you think they actually give a shit if they ruin their lives or others? I think you've been living in middle class housing too much and it softened you up to what the real world is like.
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>>720463574

>but you cant say trump isnt sticking to his promises

>hillary clinton isnt in jail,america.not mexico is paying for the wall

funny how you just proved that libtards never look at facts
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>>720476786
>Good, go spread your cancer somewhere else kek

? what you wont even address any of my comments, you simply claim that by slaughtering your liberal status i become the cancer

>>720476796
>Selling drugs should be illegal. Full stop.

what are you some little kid you use drugs every day, this is why you have to take chemistry classes when you want to be a nurse or doctor

The right argument you hipsters use is claiming drugs should be legalized and regulated so i dont even know what "selling drugs should be illegal" even means, even coffee and alcohol are drugs, they shouldn't be sold, so every drug should just be "free" all alcohol and tylenol and cough syrup should just be free and distributed to anybody who can physically pick it up and leave with it so there is no more profits to be made from producing the drugs people use, so there is no incentive to manufacture them, so now drugs are completely gone

>>720476922
>White Supremacists

go shoot yourself

>>720476978
>How does it feel to not be able to put words to why I'm wrong?

what is your comment, you claiming that by not actually saying anything, you cant be wrong. i bet i could find how youre wrong even from not posting anything.

For example, by not posting anything, you didn't serve your own purpose in any way, you could have been touching yourself to pictures of boys, or you could have been taking a shit, I enjoy showing you how fucking retarded you are, i get something out of this, you're so scared now that you can't even talk, and it's the internet, so you are wrong for not leaving for still being here.
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>>720476922

whats funny is,all these people bitching about white supremacists never said a word when chimp lives matter was running around for the past 8 years.you can only push the white people so far
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>>720477109
Maybe I have, maybe I'm naive to the ways of the world, but the way I see it is that its better to let 100 criminals go than to convict 1 innocent person.

Sure there are psychopaths and sociopaths out there who don't give a single fuck, but I believe that the majority of people out there given a chance will rise up.

One of the best teachers I ever had was a man who didn't treat us like kids, but treated us like adults and expected us to act like it. If you constantly scold your dog and treat it like shit, its not suprising that the dog won't want to listen to you or be with you.

If you treat a dog well, with respect and fairly you can have a great dog who is loyal and loving. People live up to the reputations you give them. School shooters are often seen as creepy and weird and freaks so they do things that will live up to that.
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>>720477488
>its better to let 100 criminals go than to convict 1 innocent person
yeah nah, your assumption is that you are the 1 innocent person, zoom out, and throwing all 101 in prison is far more effective, and what happens in the real world, than what you suggest, allowing 100 to continue to commit crime while 1 guy continues driving his stupid ass Nissan to his teaching job every day

The assumption youre making is that the 1 person is the king of the world, his contributions are immeasurable, in reality, that 1 person is probably what you are, little to no value to society, produces nothing, his success is relative to the people around him, meaning, non existent, and youre saying rapists, killers, fraudsters, people who damage property, kidnap children, punch the elderly, rob convenience stores, all these people should allowed to continue doing what they do because one of them may or may not be innocent.

All these people should be treated on case by case basis, and they are, this sort of bulk justice does not exist anywhere in the world

The ratio of accurate convictions may or may not be 100 to 1, although this is a fairly reasonable number. If for every 100 guilty that are charged, one innocent is also thrown in there with them, if you are or are not that one innocent person, that is still a high enough ratio to maintain a sense of security for the general public
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>>720477311
What happened to you as a child that led you to this place in life where you feel the need to attack people in something that could be a civil conversation? I am truly sorry for you because you must have gone through some awful things and its okay. Its okay to be mad and want to lash out.

Its not okay to do that with people. You don't talk this way in real life, so why would you do it here. I hope that you learn to accept differences in people and not be so angry because you're only hurting yourself.

You can be happy, but filling your life with hate will not make you happy. It gives you a purpose, but its just a mirage of one and will soon fade. I hope you learn before that happens because when you are old and alone, you'll have wished you had.

Have a nice day anon. I'm sure going to have one.
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>>720478022
>What happened to you as a child

go shoot yourself

see this is liberal tactic, lol, trying to find a reason i also must be a victim, lmao, these people should burn in hell

Hell doesnt exist but you should dig an underground series of tunnels, make a huge pit, and then throw these fuckers in there and set them all on fire

The rich are going to push the lie of liberalism on you. They have nothing to lose by doing so. The rich will always convince you you should not seek success, rather, you should sit on your ass doing anything else. In this case, pretending you are a victim, and convincing others they are also, and spending your time tying up other people's time with accusations

For you to actually oblige to their liberal shit, that's on you, that's an indication of your character, this is why you should be taken underground, and set on fire
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>>720463574
I find it really sad how the U.S.A. has only two major political parties. It must be hard to choose one side over the other, when you might agree with some of the liberal opinions, but disapprove others.
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>>720463574
Nigga who cares
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>>720477954
You take it to mean that we should let all the prisoners go. What I mean is that its better to have a process in place that ensures the guilt of somebody to an undoubtable degree which is the foundation of our law. Innocent until proven guilty.

There are many criminals who are released because there is not enough evidence. There are also many innocent people who are release because there is no evidence to point at them at having committed a crime.

In every person is a world and a universe, a diverse and colorful one. A single human life is priceless. This is well agreed upon by everybody. Its why the army has the no man left behind rule. Its why we have innocent until proven guilty. Its why we as a people strive to be better than we are.

Sure it sounds great to jail 100 people and sure 1 person might get caught up, but it is a slippery slope where you start using a ends justifying the means mentality. Will sterilizing undesirables be next? Where is the line drawn?
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>>720468435

>Rant full of Critical Race Theory buzzwords.

Let me guess, you also deny that applying intersectionality to activism isn't causing the left to implode.
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>>720478614

*is causing
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>>720465851
None.
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>>720478527
>You take it to mean that we should let all the prisoners go

>>720477488
>but the way I see it is that its better to let 100 criminals go than to convict 1 innocent person.


When your argument depends on rebuilding it after it was destroyed you never had one nigger
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>>720478211
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way I could possibly hope to defeat you in a battle of the wits.

Congratulations on winning this argument!
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>>720465925
WEEEEEEEEEW
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>>720463574
I consider myself a left leaning centrist libertarian, and after Bernie was cheated out of the election, I tossed Johnson and Trump back and forth for a while. In the end, I backed Trump because I didn't think Johnson would be strong enough to oppose Hillary, and for the spicy memes.

I'm just hoping that everybody remembers who his VP is, and just how important it is that Donald Trump makes it safely through the next four years. Trump has some redeeming qualities, and so far, he seems to be a man of his word. His policy isn't quite in line with what I want, but he's a sledgehammer when it comes to the social shit that's happening here, and he's sure as hell better than a shooting war with Russia. Pence, on the other hand, is a backwards moron. He must be kept that critical heartbeat away from any real power at all costs, even if it means paying for Trump's medical insurance, against his principles.
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>>720478756
>>720478211
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way I could possibly hope to defeat you in a battle of the wits.

Congratulations on winning this argument!
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>>720463574
>You can't say trump isn't sticking to his promises
Yes we can. He already fumbled the wall twice. First it was a way then it was a fence then we weren't paying for it, then we were and now we're indirectly paying for it.
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>>720466167
I say just look at it on a case by case basis. Passable trans uses bathroom without incident? Who gives a fuck? Next problem, please. Dude in a skirt is creeping on women from the next stall over? Report that shit and get them evaluated.
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>>720463574

Pro Tip: You are a Libertarian, and not a liberal.
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>>720478803
>I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom

take your faggotry and throw it in a blender the same way you should have been when you were 5. youre sitting on 4chan, spouting all sorts of horse shit, i myself, being the person who read it and responded to it, can see how retarded you are, and you come at me with your wizardy chasing after me like im supposed to run from you

>>720478930
>I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom

why is this faggotry being posted twice

>>720478951

do you even get anything out of talking about donald trumps wall, the border between USA and mexico, do you live in arizona? is this literally the focal point of your life, cause i'm 103% sure you're some liberal asshole, who uses his own misinterpretation of the news as "arguments" for why a successful white man in office as president of the united states is "wrong" at everything he does

I am so sick of this incredible faggotry, none of you people even understand the concept of personal interest. You dont understand or allow donald trump to have his own personal interest, which this wall, has nothing to do with personal interest, it has interest for the united states to prevent illegal immigration to some degree, and then you yourself you think your personal interest is constantly screaming about how Donald trump and christianity physically prevents you from penetrating another man's anal cavity
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>>720479202
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way I could possibly hope to defeat you in a battle of the wits.

Congratulations on winning this argument!
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>>720463574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLma__IIOzI
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>>720479202
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way I could possibly hope to defeat your enormous and genius brain in a battle of the wits.

Congratulations on winning this argument!
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>>720479202
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way I could possibly hope to defeat you in a battle of the wit.

Congratulations on winning this argument!
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>>720465478
Pretty sure he just likes waving his dick around, which is signingshit so everyone pays attention to him
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>>720479202
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way I could possibly hope to defeat you in a battle of the wits.

Congratulations on your winning of this argument!
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>Hey, I'm a liberal (with the exception I believe people should own any kind of gun they want unless they're a violent criminal)

Actually being for the right to own a gun is perfectly aligned with liberalism, so you don't have to say "with the exception".
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>>720479445
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>>720479202
I concede! You truly are a bastion of wisdom and you're quite elegant with your words as well. There is no way the lowly peon I am could possibly hope to defeat you in a battle of the wits.

Congratulations on winning this argument!
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>>720468435
It's not that black lives don't matter, it's that once you pull a gun on the police, they have a duty to society to put you down.
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>>720479202
Calm down sperg.
I live pretty much on the border I'm southern Cal, the wall will be filled with holes, tunneled under (which has been done since the 70's) or just take too long to go finish with no actual impact.

Illegals from Mexico have been a net negative since like 13', get with the times instead of freaking out over a scapegoat issue
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>>720466027
im fine with people being whatever gender they want. i also believe that bathrooms should be based on SEX and NOT GENDER , ezpz, no confusion. start labeling bathrooms XX and XY
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>>720463574
Are you me? I mean, besides the whole "referred to as a gender they weren't born with" part, like, I'll call an mtf or an ftm a girl or boy, respectively, but I'm not going to call some idiot a trans Mexican demigod fig Newton automatron kin.
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>>720479232
>>720479337
>>720479375
>>720479412
>>720479474

>I concede!

anybody here actually talking or am i done crushing liberals skulls. I'm gonna go play the new sims vampires once you ass-clowns have been beaten down as much as you feel you deserve to be

>>720479671
>Calm down sperg.

shoot yourself

>>720479713
what is this bathroom shit that everybodys talking about, are you an employer? a restaurant owner? the owner of a gym? you run a college? what the fuck is this shit, you'd better be making more than 100K a year if you have enough time to concern yourself with issues that have nothing to do with you
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>>720463574
I'm right with you Op, though I'm open to the possibility that trump will be better than Clinton would
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>>720479494

They're protesting against unarmed black men getting killed by police, moron.
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>>720469037
That's what American establishment Democrats and similar parties are. It's not the left as a whole. There are people and parties out there that care about economics and environment and social welfare and don't give a fuck about gender or race. I believe the UK's Labor party is getting its head out of its ass right now, but it's still not quite there yet. They've got a lot of house cleaning to do yet, as I expect the Democrats in the States to do over the course of the next couple congressional elections.
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>>720479804
>anybody here actually talking
Certainly isn't you, failed-/pol/-anon
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>>720479804
lol i have no idea what you are talking about, but i agree, i would be better off making more than 100k a year!
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>>720479975
Race is a social construct, it's a meaningless non-category.
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>>720479975
I would be okay with it if it were about police brutality or shootings, but they went ahead and made it a race thing like only idiots do.
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>>720479804
Woah, dude, aren't you high and mighty. Taking shit posting to a literal level soon, with the amount of shit you're spewing.
>am I done crushing liberal skulls
Bitch nigga, I bet it took you a lot of effort picking up your mouse today. Go play your sims, I bet it's the only way you can get people to like you[spoiler]r avatar[/spoiler]
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>>720471982
None too pretty and hated by all...
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>>720480031
>Certainly isn't you, failed-/pol/-anon

youre calling me a pol and this isnt even a race thread, nice to know there's Israeli college students lurking this thread? why

>>720480059

The only way i can convey to you, being concerned about issues that have no meaning to you, at all, is through this, type, if you can't use your eyes, and read it, and consider it, there is no alternate method through which i will be able to describe this to you

Do you make 100K plus a year? are you set financially? No, then what, the fuck, are you doing, talking about bathrooms and queers and transgenders and womens studies, this has nothing to do with your life or your success

When you get to a stage where you want to be in life and you have everything you need, you will be able to determine if your time is better spent talking about what's on a bathroom door. If this is what you decide to spend your free time on then you must have some sort of issues

No ordinary human being would actually consider discussing this bathroom designation bullshit that CNN and the kikes want you to talk about while they gas all the Palestinians and loot your banks

>>720480202
>Race is a social construct, it's a meaningless non-category.

Asians, whites, Arabs, the three of these develop technology, or used to, and they create and maintain societies. There's a third one, I won't mention, since there's liberal zombies in here. That third one is seem as unattractive, even by itself, it creates no technology, cannot build a society, offers nothing of value, and by associating yourself with this third unnamed racial group, you risk your own personal safety, and if you decide you are going to "help" them, you are throwing away time and resources.

Is race a "social construct," no, is race relevant? When it comes to discussing white Asian and Arab, not usually, but sometimes. Is race relevant when discussing the last and final, unnamed racial group, which we wont name here, absolutely.
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>>720463574
>keeping his promises
>Drain The Swamp
So far, the most important one (to me, personally) got dropped.
He outright admitted to basically lying on video at one of his rallies after the polls closed, I believe it was in Michigan.
So far, he's done literally nothing to put his interests in a blind trust, which as far as I'm concerned is grounds to kick him out, but I want Pence there even less.
Otherwise, I agree with you. SJW shit is dumb, go to college to be challenged and to learn and grow, or just don't.
Hillary wasn't a good choice. I saw her mostly as the status quo with a side of "Could we maybe NOT start a war with Russia and actually give the SJWs legislature?"
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>>720480421
Not him but what you're doing is clearly empty shit talking and proves his point that you have nothing.
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>>720463574
He's gone back on most of his promises publicly before even entering the Whitehouse.
No Muslim ban
No Hillary in jail
No replacement for obamacare in sight, just repeal and take his word for it like always
No wall at Mexico's expense. Tarrifs aren't pesos and will most likely end in an embargo. Or Mexico will increased its prices and take it out on the Americans who buy these imports.
No enhanced interigation

His cabinet is all billionaires and terrible choices like Betsy devol and Tom price which probably won't make it into the cabinet. Only time this has happened in American history.

Anyone look at his approval ratings? 32% approvals during his inauguration which is different than polls because that is likelihood to vote, not opinion on the president. Another worst in history. These have gone up to 40% now though.

Trump has done some good though. He did kill the TPP so he's got some credit for that.
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>>720480421
>Woah, dude, aren't you high and mighty.
go shoot yourself

and when it comes to being higher value, we both could have been higher value. I decided to side with logic, i decided to present myself in a clear and effective manner. you could have done the same. You decided to use your speaking time to be an absolute fucking fag, you did, not me, you destroyed the value you could have had, you created a higher value role that I am assumed to take
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Trump made executive order to pass dapl and keystone. Good thing he's got investements in those companies and using the presidency to make money
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>>720472330
Well, obviously, you have to trust that people aren't going to shoot up a Walgreens on a whim, and remind them that the police are going to show up in riot armor with grenades in about 10 minutes. Also, the theory is that people will arm themselves so that they will not be as easily victimized by criminals. Besides, why shoot up Walgreens when you could go for the CVS that will inevitably be nearby? Fucks don't even have a real name...
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>>720480618
>So far, the most important one (to me, personally) got dropped

It's literally been a single week

>He outright admitted to basically lying on video at one of his rallies after the polls closed, I believe it was in Michigan.

Watch the video yourself, quote was taken out of context like just about every other Trump bashing fake news story.
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>>720480202

Yet society still applies that construct, so it still matters.

>>720480267

Blacks are dis-proportionally targeted by the justice system for the most petty of things. The Ferguson riots didn't happen solely because of Michael Brown. Blacks in Ferguson were unfairly targeted with fines for lots of stupid shit for quite some time and were sick of being powerless to do anything about it.
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>>720480600
Well at least you're putting effort into your shit posting
7/10
Find something other than 'Shoot yourself' to say.
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>>720480924
It's inaccurate, no one belongs to any race. Saying "I'm black" or "I'm white" is utterly meaningless. There is no such thing as races. Mike Brown punched a cop in the face.
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>>720469321
>"they too deserve a spot at the table"
they DO...everyone does....all lives do...all lives matter.
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>>720480894
>It's literally been a single week

He declared his cabinet before he even took the oath. That's definitely not less swamp, if not even more.

As for the video, sure. I'll go watch it and we'll see how that goes. Dunno how "I started to say it like I meant it" could be taken out of context without being the start of the cut clip, but we shall see.
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>>720475230
cultural tradition and conservative values

I'm a fan of the two bathroom system, personally. I'd rather not have women being obnoxious while I'm trying to take a shit, and whether you have a penis or not changes what fixtures are useful to you.
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>>720467590
>>720469037

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. Whereas classical liberalism emphasises the role of liberty, social liberalism stresses the importance of equality. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas and programmes such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free markets, civil rights, democratic societies, secular governments, gender equality, and international cooperation.

Liberalism has been dead since the 1930s since it was made to be little more than a buzzword by various politicians like Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and JFK. In an effort to create an "equal" society, so called "liberals" have forgotten freedom, it would be better to call them leftists now and to call classical liberals "libertarians" (in terms of philosophy not political parties) as such words better describe peoples positions of issues nowadays by the common vulgate.
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>>720480894
How is his 'drain the swap' not totally in question? Hope you do the think DeVo is a legitimate candidate for SoE
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>>720476212
Care to elaborate? His track record (at least in terms of economic performance) as governor seems average.
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>>720480894
Yeah appointing people who want to destroy the programs they are appointed is a great idea. That's going to play out well
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>>720481134
He said he didn't come up with the actual phrase himself and didn't like it, the rest of that part he talks about how he believes in the concept and that he plans to do it.

Be careful of media brainwashing fake news anon, you're obviously better than that. Always check the primary source.

>He declared his cabinet before he even took the oath. That's definitely not less swamp, if not even more.

The swamp is lobbyists and long term congressmen having every campaign financed by private interests, it's not rich cabinet members. You could argue that's a part, but it's always been secondary.

No one who looked at Washington said "this is corrupt" was focusing on the cabinets primarily. and hell, at least he picked his cabinet and not Citibank like the last guy.
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>>720476035
Dude, if the president of the United Stats personally intervened in my sex life, do you have any idea how much dick I could get?

Though, honestly, Pence is the one more likely to get up in arms about it. Trump doesn't give a fuck, but Pence cares about what consenting adults are and are not allowed to do at home.
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>>720481196
You clearly don't understand what the swamp is.

>>720481331
Yes, some people want certain Federal programs cut so the states can handle them.
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>>720480856

Yup this is what adults do

In fact, Trump won't be the first example of it, he's just the most successful example of it

The loser's fallacy; attack those who are doing what they should be doing, rather than attack those who aren't doing it

>>720481051
>Well at least you're putting effort

go shoot yourself you dumb fucking fag

>>720481062
>It's inaccurate, no one belongs to any race

That's because race is not a social construct

As far as "belonging" to a race, you will belong to your respective racial group's GANG in prison, or you will be stabbed / raped.

In the real world, your ethnic composition has heavy, overwhelming influence on how much you are capable of doing.

When it comes to society, niggers are treated as angels, they can do no wrong, and whites are continuously and extremely persecuted, and they are far more productive than you are

>>720481086
>they DO...everyone does....all lives do...all lives matter

Your argument is that you could start today's human race, from a pack of 12 niggers, yes? Wrong, you would never create today's Asian and white races starting with nothing but niggers, and if you would, it would require many dozens of millions of years, for blacks to evolve to a semi productive level while at the same time avoiding their own destructive habits

Whites and Asians have outside genetics from other hominids blacks don't have

It's not just the fact that whites and Asians bred for attractive, productive traits, they also have outside genetics that simply do not exist anywhere in this world today

Do black lives matter, absolutely not, this is ridiculous, you should stop burning up people's time with this claim. It is not their job to make your fantasies of "equality" come true, for they will never come true.

Liberalism teaches you you are a victim, and to burn other people's time. Usually with accusations that they are "haters" "Nazis" "homophobes," but sometimes with ever more cancerous ideas, of black "equality"
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>>720481373
Wait wait wait, so you are saying lobbyists are the swamp, but you don't realise that his cabinet is mostly lobbyists? Rex tillerson is the biggest example from Exxon and has now Secritary of state
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>>720463574
No youre just a faggot that wants to get married.
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>>720481490
Clearly you don't either.
Or he doesn't
The whole thing is a swamp which was very much the message during the campaign, cleaning out one part(which hasn't happened yet) and defiling another isn't cleaning, it's rearranging the muck.
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>>720481490
Like the epa? The guy in charge wants to cut the whole program but those are just small cuts right? Or rivers won't start on fire from dumping waste into them since companies are trust worthy and don't screw people over
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>>720463574
you are a true liberal. care not about the economy, just a bunch of social issues.
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>>720465478
>Claims to not be an SJW
>Parrots John Oliver
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>>720481504
>go shoot yourself you dumb fucking fag
I said say something new you feeble minded broken record
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>>720481764
The economy is 2x better than the next nation China. So why are we consistently worrying about how much money companies make when they already are breaking record profits each year. While the average American makes 35k a year
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>>720481570
You didn't read the whole thing or didn't understand it.

>>720481667
I clearly have a better understanding of the concept than you do. Are you aware that the US government consists of many more people than cabinet members?

>>720481708
Some people want the Feds shrunk as much as possible so the states can decide these things.
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>>720476922
Did I hear cancer?
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>>720466819
then stop dividing the country with your actions
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Trump is the first President to ENTER office believing in gay marriage.
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>>720481062

Did you completely gloss over what I just said? Yes it is inherently meaningless, but it is still used as a tool for dividing and conquer. That's why we can't yet say "race doesn't exist" when a significant number people and institutions still continue to exhibit biased treatment of said socially constructed groups.

Ideally, most sane people want a post-racial society.
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>>720481978
>but muh narrative
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>>720481134
>He declared his cabinet before he even took the oath. That's definitely not less swamp, if not even more.

Everybody knows how fucking retarded queers and niggers are, so rather than keep pushing these agendas your Jewish masters have you bashing the sitting president of your own country

>>720481160
>Liberalism is a political philosophy

Ive explained what liberalism is, liberalism is a sock puppet created by the rich to keep the disabled classes, usually women, gays and blacks, as disabled as possible, by chasing victim status and by throwing accusations at other members of the public, in order to prevent these disabled classes from becoming successful

>>720481481
>Dude, if the president of the United Stats personally intervened in my sex life,

according to retarded faggots such as yourself, he does, and so does everything else your Jewish controllers want you to crusade. If i ever went public with anything, if i were a public figure, and I did something the jews either didnt like or ran contrary to their own agenda, your Jewish controllers would decide on a plan of attack for your retarded zombie ass and you would do it because "it threatens your way of life"

>>720481667
You dont actually benefit from the Liberal party being in power, you dont, your fruity pebbles ass thinks it does, but it doesnt, nor do you benefit from claiming the opposition to your sacred liberal party can do nothing right

You are merely the result of the AIDS virus not killing people as effectively as it once has, therefore you have a fuck ton of time to spend slandering your own sitting president for not being a nigger like the last one was

>>720481813
>I said say something new you feeble minded

shoot yourself you dumb fucking fag

I'm the only one here posting real, actual, constructed comments, and will always be the only one, I'm literally dealing with 100 of you retarded faggot "assassins" coming at me, none of you have had any impact
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>>720481954
No I read it, just don't understand how you think trumps billionaire lobbyists aren't considered the swamp but other lobbyists are
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>>720463574
You sound more like a libertarian than a liberal
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>>720481954
"Some people" aren't the majority though
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>>720482047
Because when he would talk about it, he wasn't talking about cabinet members being rich people. So many low information voters out there, educate yourself.

>>720482109
Nice non-sequitur cocksmoker.
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FIrst it's called /pol/ go there
Second your opinion doesn't matter
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>>720463574
I second this nigga. Right there with you bro
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>>720466456
Autism
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>>720482258
Oh so him talking about it doesn't make them lobbyist anymore and not the swamp... But he can approve projects like the dapl where he made money off of the executive order but his cabinet won't do the same thing right? Because he's leading by example to be a honest politician
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>>720467804

Wow grammer natzis are the worst
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>>720482032
You, sir, are an ignorant sack of shit
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>>720482329

Bad advice.

t. ex-/pol/lack
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>>720482258
Are you shitting me? Look at your post back to that and let me know if that was a non sequitur response moron
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>>720463574
Ummm thats not a liberal. You are a libertarian and you lean to the right if you inderstand economics and lean to the left if you don't.
Trump is a libertarian who understands economics.
Before you say he doesn't go look at the dow Jones you cucks.
Make america great again 2020!!!
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>>720482449
>wurst
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>>720482032
The cabinet is something he has direct control over, so it makes sense to focus on it. Given his boner for executive orders, it's clear he isn't being inactive about change. So why fill the cabinet up with swamp-goers when you pitched cleaning the whole place up?
>you dumb fucking fag
>I'm the only one here posting real, actual, constructed comments,
You're just throwing around long winded insults, anon.
>I'm literally dealing with 100 of you
69 posters in the thread.

Also can you post him saying the news misinterpreted his 'drain the swamp's and that's he didn't really say it? Not that it matters he goes back on everything he says anyway. Like the fenc- I mean wall.
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>>720463574
>I'm a liberal
>if someone prefers to be referred to as a gender they weren't born with then that's their right as well
>im a liberal, but collective rights are ok
no, youre rejecting one of the fundamental concepts of liberalism in that statement
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>>720482329

if i dont matter how did i take your fruity pebbles ass and make you too afraid to link me, on the fucking internet, do you think ill punch you through the screen. Do you think ill hold you accountable for your outrageous behavior because it's legal to do so and I have your address?

>>720482426
autism spam i dont know who this fucking fag is, but i destroyed him, he's going to go masturbate to pictures of dudes wearing ladies undies, and hes going to let me know im autism / edgelord / baited before he goes to take care of business

>>720482466
>You, sir, are an ignorant

shoot yourself you dumb fucking fag

>>720482529

Why are you piggybacking that random faggot talking about pol without even linking anybody, that's it? All you dumb fucking fags fell out of the "discussion"? I can go play sims now? I'm probably going to go for a walk while it's still light outside

>>720482607
>The cabinet is something he has direct control over, so it makes sense to focus on it.

Your response to anything Donald Trump does is "it's racist" and "bad" so i literally dont give two shits about your predetermined analysis, nor will i learn anything from reading you
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>>720481954
I think this is admirable in many instances because it brings governmental power down to where the people can hold it accountable. A guy in your state bureau has a face and a name.

On the other hand, I'd really rather not see what happens if Tennessee and Mississippi are left to decide how to take care of their stretches of one of America's best rivers.
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>>720463574
yes.
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>>720482539
I have a better idea, how about you tell me how it was relevant? That should be fun to watch.
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>>720482721
>Your response to anything Donald Trump does is "it's racist" and "bad" so i literally dont give two shits about your predetermined analysis, nor will i learn anything from reading you
I haven't said anything of that.
3/10 I said stop saying shoot yourself. The only reason you still get points is for perseverance
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>>720482429
You can't even think straight, take a few deep breaths before you respond again little buddy.
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>>720482733
I agree, I don't think the EPA should be cut. I'm not arguing for that, I simply explained why people feel that way and unhinged tolerant liberals jumped down my throat.
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>>720481373
So far, that specific speech is proving difficult to find, when a lot of his others are up in full.
And the problem of the swamp is corruption. I sincerely doubt that billionaires got there by protecting anyone else's best interests. So far, bar Secretary of Defense, I haven't seen people in office that have been beneficial to what their posts are supposed to be beneficial to in the past.
And even then, they had to full on change legislature just to get him there. Special circumstances ruling, who cares. Full on changing legislation because it's not convenient IS part of he problem. That's part of why people don't see the government has the people's best interests at heart.
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>>720483219
So when you think, "the government is corrupt" you look at the cabinet and not lobbyists rallying congress, campaign financing or neo-liberal trade policies?
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>>720463574
you seem pretty level-headed, op. I'll bite.

I agree with you on most of your statements, the only contrary belief I have is that sjw's lead to Trump's victory. It was definitely a part, but not "wholly" as you state. A huge part of what led to Trump's victory were the inabilities and unfulfilled promises of former president, Barack Obama. Many counties and states that had previously gone democrat were suddenly painted red come election night. I truly believe that the minorities, especially African-Americans, have begun to wake up to the fact that the democratic party is manipulating them and their vote. Which leads me to another point - as a liberal myself, at least in ideology, I find it better suited for my political beliefs to vote republican for the time being, and to vote for trump, as he is an anti-establishment conservative, unlike former runner-ups John McCain and Mitt Romney. Trump had to face the GOP, Soros, Hillary, the media, entertainment, and still came out on top, because Americans have woken the fuck up and are now starting to realize that politicians are just actors skilled in the art of deception. He did not deceive anybody, as his first week in office has certainly proven to be true.
Also, Please don't believe the propaganda labeling our president as a racist or sexist. If he were either of those things, Ben Carson would not be on his cabinet, he would not have met with steve harvey, and kellyanne conway would not be his campaign leader. He also frequently says his daughter is "strong" and "independent," which he is proud of, and has left her in charge of serious work before. He's also had women win on the apprentice, albeit reality t.v, if he were sexist, he would not want the message conveyed that a woman did a better job than a man.
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>>720482936
So no counterpoint? You are extremely shitty at saying why you believe the things you do are the best options. Just keep dancing around in circles
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>>720483044
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>>720483494
Paying attention to the one thing he directly controls doesn't mean people aren't paying attention to others.
He's only been in a short while, why focus on things he hasn't begun to touch?
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>>720483494
I think about the members of the government who don't care that it's corrupt, because it directly benefits them. Corporations will always try to influence politicians, that's just a function of capitalism. We need it to be harder for them to do so in secret. Publishing campaign donation amounts and who it's from is a good thing. We should have full transparency to know what the relationship is between politicians and corporations, so we'll know what to expect if we vote for them. Do all politicians do that? I can't say for sure. Personally, I don't really see how the ones that don't wouldn't be in the minority, but that's an opinion I don't have solid facts on. If we had full transparency, I'd be able to know. As of now, it's murky at best (hence the monicker "swamp").
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>>720482865
I already did, how his cabinet members want to destroy the progams they are placed in charge of
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>>720483497
>especially African-Americans
How many blacks voted for him?
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>>720463574
>if someone prefers to be referred to as a gender they weren't born with then that's their right as well.
Do you really think it's okay for someone to insist, on a legal level, which pronouns another person can say? You think that a fat, balding, obvious man should be able to see legal action against you if you don't hall him "she/her"? That's fucking retarded and unconstitutional (at least in the US). It may be considerate and polite in many situations to call someone by preferred pronouns (e.g. I always refer to drag queens as she/her). But no one should be in any way obligated to do so.

>and no one should push their beliefs on others
I don't believe that gender is a spectrum, and there is no scientific data to prove this. There is certainly gender dysmorphia, and these people should be accommodated. But tumblr faggots who are one of the 131 flavors of gender can go fuck themselves. And, having said what you said, you should call them out on trying to push their beliefs on the public.

>They give real liberals like myself such a shitty name
Agreed. But they aren't liberal. They are Progressive.

>they're as bad as the people they are going against.
Worse, since they have far more political power in the West.

>Anyone in the same camp as me?
Very similar, though I've bought into less of the Progressive stance than you. I'm definitely a Liberal, but strictly in the classic sense.
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>>720483494
>neo-liberal trade policies?
What do you even mean by this?
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>>720483991
not too many, but he received a larger percentage of the black vote than any republican candidate in the last 50 years.
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>>720484173
too late spidey, this shit show is in full swing
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>>720484270
So that correlates to 'black people realising liberals use them for votes' because...?
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>>720484529
because less blacks voted liberal, after being promised change from Obama and instead saw increase in racial tension and division
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>>720468269
not true, monger
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>>720463574
congrats your political stance is the same as 99% of the internet
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>>720484529
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either.
Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face.
Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
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>>720467270
Go look up a definition of Liberalism. You are way off base.
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>>720468527
>triggered as fuck
Do you not realize that coming into a thread and ranting in all caps makes you look just as retarded as the SJWs you claim to hate so much?
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>>720465478
>it's kind of impressive
>kind of
NOPE
It's very impressive.
And it is unlike any of the lying career politicians we have had in ages driving this country off a cliff.

Anyone who doubted Trump, like me (who voted for Hillary), is eating their words right now.

I'll be damned if carrot-top is doing exactly as he said he was going to do.

Honesty.
For once.
How refreshing.

I don't agree with everything he says or does, but it IS refreshing to actually have someone not lie to your face all the time and to tell it like it is and treat us lowly citizens with a shred of respect.

I'm starting to change my mind about Trump and starting to think I had it all wrong and maybe was in fact drinking the koolaid from certain propaganda machines.
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