can somebody tell me, why this prick thinks, that man-made global

>>720457520
well being an australian i cant say i disagree with him because one day its fucking 40 degrees then the next day its like 5 and pissing down with rain. so whatever. ill be dead so why do i give a fuck

>>720457520
shut up OP you fucking mexican

>>720457981
I am just stating that it's bullshit. Why would someone with atleast SOME IQ believe that? Fuck's sake America, you done fucked up

Global warming is happening, that trend is undeniable. The cause of it however is up in the air, academia has entrenched itself with bad science claiming some shit that simply isn't backed up. This wouldn't be the first time scientist have backed up an idea because everyone jumped on the bandwagon. I was in stem and quit that shit because of how cancerous and close minded that community is, if you don't suck liberal dick and question shit like man caused global warming, there being many genders and other liberal craziness you are ridiculed, you don't even have to doubt it just questions the data.
He has every right to question that shit

He is a retard plus he is in the pocket of the petrolium industry he belives what ever hes paid to

>>720459209
well no denying that

>>720457520
He thinks that because you are a crybaby faggot, KYS & he wont think that way anymore.

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>>720457520

It's not that he doesn't believe in global warming, it's just that he doesn't care about it.

>>720457520
he knows more than you.

>>720459209
proof?

Man made global warming is such a small percentage of natural global warming. He says it dpesnt exist because corporations like to push "green" and environmental friendly to make more sales of idiodic guilty people. Same for those carbon footprint offset people.

>>720459842
then tell me, what is the biggest source

>>720460033
The natural fucking cyle of earth. How do ypu think we got put of the ice age

>>720457520

watch this and ask yourself the same question again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9-tY1oZNw&feature=share

>>720457520
He claimed later that he was joking about that claim. But he still says it's a lie H__H

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>>720457520
>thinking you're important enough to affect the most complex ecosystem ever
>thinking humans are powerful enough to influence something as big as earth

>>720460310
>thinking you're not living on the anthropocene

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>>720460310

>thinking you can just keep buying gas guzzling SUVs and building lead belching factories and everything is going to be a-okay

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"This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements, provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased since the Industrial Revolution. (Credit: Vostok ice core data/J.R. Petit et al.; NOAA Mauna Loa CO2 record.) Find out more about ice cores (external site)"

>Man
>It's almost as if
>All you had to do was Google it
>And the answer was right there

>Wow

>>720457520
Because if you look at the history of the Earth, there's evidence of temperature fluctuation throughout it's known past. Great periods of rising and lowering temperatures are not quite common, but evident.
He's ignoring the other short-term indicators (air quality decreasing, extinction, exponential population growth [which coincides with the degradation of the natural environment]) in favor of the one long-term one and the fact that China has had the monopoly on American goods for some time, now.

>>720459547
>leaving anything other than circumstantial evidence if you've already demonstrated your competence by becoming the next President
You're not giving him enough credit. There will only be spoken agreements and handshakes with the promise of future cooperation (with his and his friends companies)

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>>720460762

explain this, faggot:

http://i.imgur.com/Nk2z7qT.png

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Because large petroleum companies have mucho. $$$ to throw around.
And recognizing global warming would speed up the shift to alternative fuels. Which would be good for the planet and everyone on it. But bad for the PROFITs of big oil.

This is now The United Corporations Of America! Money is the religion, and all that matters.

Pretending to give a shit about the people is just a ruse.

Making America Great Again..........
But for who?

>>720457520

Because, being one of the least polluted countries in the world, China wants to force others to be as clean as them, with the spending involved making their rivals less competitive.

>>720457520
Can anyone tell me why the U.S. is now the cleanest industrialized nation and gets all the shit piled on it for being a polluter; while China puts out more pollution per- day than all countries combined and no one says shit? Is it because communism?

>>720461206
its because progressives are easily brainwashed faggots

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>>720457520

What about global cooling? Google it
the science if far from settled
the global warming people keep changing their methodology because the data does not support what they are claiming we have been in a cooling trend for a long time, so they changed they way they sample to get the results they wanted which is bullshit

The man doesn't just disbelieve man-made global warming, but climate change as a whole. He was appointed someone who is actively trying to shut down non-faith schools because they don't teach creationism as head of education and his PR says we shouldn't believe facts.

People read way too much into his crazy rants, he's just plain dumb.

>>720461206

>cleanest

I don't mean this in the usual dickhead way but, source?

>>720461287
It's not just "global warming," or "global cooling."

Basically it's the fuckery of our planet. Summer days are now hotter, and Winter days are now cooler.

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>>720457520

YOU CANDIDATE BELONGS IN PRISION

>>720458804
Not only have you obviously not studied or understood any STEM course, you also obviously did not "quit" but rather you failed and were forced to leave.

I happen to be an expert on science and the environment and I can tell you, there is nothing but mountains of evidence to support that climate change is both real and man-made.

You are nothing but a fucking moron.

Enjoy living life in denial.

>>720457601
That's not how global warming works. It's the amount of gases that are trapped in out oceans and atmosphere. Not land temp

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>>720461206
When your assertion is made up of "alternative facts" such as yours.

Where do you find this nonsense ? Made it up yourself?

>>720461625
The election is already over, why are people still posting this?

I don't think you understand that most of the people who voted for hillary KNEW that she was a criminal.

They don't care, because "FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT GUYS!"

>>720461504

Your on a big rock hurling though space around the sun at varying distances and angles, as well as the earth is still a cooling mass aka its still cooling off from being formed, then you have constantly changeling air streams,

the temperatures are going to vary regardless of anything thing we do, do we have an effect sure we do but with shit varying it hard to tell anything.

>>720457520
>Oil companies

>>720460995
sure kid. no proof. not surprised. you could at least give credit to the left leaning web site you get this shit from.

>>720457520
Because he's stupid?

>>720461904

because someone who committed a crime and not only is guilty but has admitted to it, and it been proven she consider to do in the Wikileaks.

IF YOU OR I DID THIS WE WOULD BE IN PRISON ALREADY , THAT WHY WE POST IT...

>>720461866

hes right china put out everyones share of pollution an some, while here in america their regulated to hell and back

>>720461992
Rex tillerson CEO of Exxon mobile is his energy cabinet official. The last one we had was a nuclear physicist. Red got a few hundred million dollars as a severance package to influence his decisions at the Whitehouse. This is lobbyists 101

>>720461822
Sure bud
I was halfway into my senior year and couldn't stand the echo chamber.
I'm sure you're an expert on cherry picking data and failing to publish the data that doesn't fit your narrative, of that I have no doubt.
Your kind has become the very thing you preach against, you're no longer a scholar.
Keep lying to yourself though, if you actually had any integrity and could step back and look at shit from a truly unbiased pov you'd also recognize what a corrupted mess academia is. No worries though, this administration is literally shutting your field down and I couldn't be happier. Maybe you folks will go back to your roots and actually start publishing all your data, regardless of what it supports or doesn't.

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>>720462051
The election is over. No Republican gives a shit about her emails of Benghazi! That was just to fire up the masses of borderline retarded idiots who they need to gain the majority vote.
The 1% calls you guys "useful idiots"!

>>720461992
I'm not the same person you were responding to, I just know better than to look for proof of my fantasies, one way or another. I have more productive activities to attend to.

>>720460075
Yeah the world does warm up over thousands to millions of years and everything is given time to adapt to the warming. Humans have sped up the process To make it happen in a few decades

>>720457520
He is fucking retarded, all richfags are retards.

>>720462051
Come on man, just give it up. Trump gave a STANDING OVATION to Hillary at one of his parties.

Trump is not going to throw her in jail. She's too much of a slippery cunt to be caught that easily.

>>720461625

She is in the past, Trump is fucking up in the present. Using 'what ifs' to defend him is pathetic at this stage.

>>720462032
actually his doctor confirms his IQ 176

>>720462433
Its an exponential cycle it just gets faster as it goes.

>>720460227
Not OP but Ted Cruz even admits at the start of his questioning that he's a lawyer and so everything can be debated.
An ex-lawyer making an argument seem legitimate is an incredibly biased and flimsy thing to stand by.

>>720458804

Academia has bad science?

Go learn some basic chemistry.

>>720462654
Yeah his gastrointestinal doctor who openly says he was forced to write that last moment in a limo

>>720460310
The point has always been the world will be correct itself but we will die, how could you miss that?

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>>720462654
See here:
This should clear things up a bit

>>720462851
So hes a pandering? Glad we cleared that up

>>720462746
>living blue in a red state
Yeah because you had to flee the blue state riddled with high taxes and government cuckery of your rights
Every time I ask someone from California why they moved to Arizona "oh man it was too expensive out there, taxes were too high and I couldn't own a gun. I'm voting blue here though lol! This state is too conservative for me"

>>720462654
that´s nothing, my IQ is 234

>>720461206
That's like like letting China punch the earth twice and then punching it yourself, saying that because China did it twice you don't have any responsibility over your own actions since you did it less

>>720461051
but still no real proof to your claims
why am I not surprised.

>>720457520
mind telling me why a bunch of kids are protesting on something they dont wanna accept?

>>720462198
but no real proof.

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>>720457520
Because, like his supporters, he's an ignorant dick bag.

>>720462374
sure kid

>>720462395
thanks for that retarded response

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>>720461026
retard!

>>720463123
sounds like you accepted a nice hot dicking from the conservative propaganda machine

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>>720462349
So when surrounded by an opinion that you already disagreed with, you reacted by being a giant pissant and dropping out? Way to spin being a failure into political rhetoric you fuck knuckle

>>720462851
so you believe what the opposition posts.

>>720463020
sure kid.

>>720462654
his doctor also said Trump ws fittest man ever to run for ofice... so we believe that.

and he never mentioned his narcissistic personality disorder.

this is man who does not read, and won't tell anyone what class of degree he got (not summa cum laude, that's for sure...)

>>720461625
rich people don´t go to jail

>>720463241
but he is president. what are you exactly?

>>720463358
Ima smart kid tho

>>720463041
Except your forgot the part where by punching earth your economy booms and you better your country and now faggot tree hugging, nut eating, yoga monkies are telling you to cuck yourself and let someone else grow above you

>>720463283
in his next post this person will claim how intelligent he is.

He doesn't. Should be obvious. He is willing to profit off the expense and destruction of the planet.

>>720463314
moron detected.

>>720457520
bc he's a retard oil puppet

>>720460310
oh no it's retarded

>>720463379
considering how he's being vilified by press do you blame him.

>>720463424
Surrounded by retards, duh.

>>720463314
Read what I said, I didn't disagree with it
I questioned it and asked to see more evidence myself.
And yes I dropped out because I wasn't going to be happy working with that community, why bother finishing it if I'm not going to want a job in the field? You can be as angry as you want and flame me all you want, the right won and they're shitting all over you.
Good for them, I didn't support the guy and didn't expect this outcome but it's a nice little cherry on top of the shitty cake.

>>720463436
get that six figure dream job yet?

>>720457520
my professor of geography thinks that he is right because what we are thinking is global warming is not actually ad last huge climate change was back 50-100 years(i think its bullshit cause of NASA before after pictures).
he also says everything about global worming is false story of someone just to make profit(big companys) and trump is independed man.
idk... 3 years back we did not have any snow in winter which is unusual and winter of 2015 was hottest winter of last 100 years i think...this year they are saying the record for the coldest winter might be this winter (from 1974 i think)

>>720463542
proof?

>>720460075
says someone who does not understand the science...

>>720463646
so king retard then

>>720463472

>better your country

So why do we need to make it great again if shitting up the environment is working so well for us?

>>720463527
A moron who can finish his studies without making excuses. Just as bad as the sjw's, screaming about being oppressed by people who don't buy your reactionary red pill nonsense.

>>720457601
also, you won't be dead. It is already having an effect and the effects will get worse within the next decade and the decade after - unless you plan to die tomorrow, your life will be impacted...

>>720463706
you don't need to understand the science.
just follow the money trail.

>>720457520
well look guys i think denying climate change is funny but honestly it kind of makes sense.
all the stuff about co2 is complete bullshit if you actually check the absorption spectra for ir and the co2 density required it becomes glaringly obvious its rubbish.
but look at how much fucking energy we use nowadays, absolutely loads and loads. we all know energy isn't created or destroyed so where does it go? entropies to heat of course it does. so i mean tackle climate change? well we have used the earth as a big capacitor essentially since the dinosaurs and now we are emptying it out its fucking us. we need to rely just on energy directly from the sun and only from the sun to ensure we don't use more of out daily energy the sun has decided we need and the earth was designed for by god.

>>720463670
yup, I got a job in america
land of brave and free people

>>720457601
ausfag here i hear ya bruh thats what turnbull and abbott havent done jack about. whats the point in fixing something we cant fix. okay we can slow it down but its still going to happen anyway and we as humans made it happen much quicker because we're fucking monkeys

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>>720463951
This is the absorption spectra. How is it obvious it's bullshit? This proves what they are saying

>>720459415
Trump is like a fucking orange redneck, the rest of the world is just laughing at his ignorance.

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>>720463665
>Read what I said, I didn't disagree with it
I questioned it and asked to see more evidence myself.

This.

I too took a class where nobody knew the real truth.

People kept telling me that 2 + 2 equaled 4, I questioned it however, unlike these sheep. They have mountains of evidence supporting their theory, but what of the evidence that proves the equation false? That's the evidence they hide in order to foolishly continue believing their Liberal rhetoric. I dropped the class and now spread the truth. I'm sorry if other people still trust these "scholars" with blind faith.

>>720464248
i wanted him to win from the get go and i live over the otherside of the world. ive liked everything trump has done and hes really nice. like i never thought of him as a bad guy to begin with. yeah hes arrogant but i suppose if you have like 20 billion you would be. hes nicer then half the rich dickheads out there

>>720464277
You're fitting his description to the fucking letter
You ridicule and mock a simple question.
What's wrong with wanting more evidence?

>>720464407
So you wanted him to win for his charisma instead of for what good he can do? Jesus now I know why Trump won.

>>720463792
but have you applied them?
considering you are here I'm guessing no.

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>>720464510
>"Are you sure you just haven't made thousands of mistakes?"

>>720457520
Because it let's you boost profits for country/corporations by mass mining oil and starting re industrialisation.

>>720464555
no he literally does what he says. he means it. he meant every single thing he said and you america voted him in. now hes doing what he said.
like knock knock hello is anyone home?
if you guys dont want him let us have him. maybe he will deport all the fucking waste of space muslims

>>720464248
sure kid. where's you "trump tower"?
mommies basement?

>>720457520
Please god let expedite it and the let death be swift. We don't deserve to live.

>>720464510
he doesn't have any.

>>720464656
too stupid to come up with anything original.

>>720464648
In expense of your future.

>>720464724
where are you located?

>>720464702
money gives wisdom. Classic American right there

>>720464825
reactionary statement.

>>720464886
wow this autistic. you have my sympathy.

>>720461026
>poorly handmade graphs
>datasets taken out of proper context
>shitty inconvenient truth joke to top it off

Look into the actual citations
this is the one for the bottom left
https://youtu.be/7UyAOYoIifo

there is a strong consensus among climate scientists that anthropogenic warming exists, its US media that presents it like its existence is still an open debate

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>>720464909
Even if global warming was fake that would still be the most retarded argument in the world.

>>720464277
If you were anywhere near that intelligent you would immediately realize that numbers are symbols for concepts and within the context of this concept, 2 + 2 does indeed equal 4, for all these symbols entail on the highest level of abstraction. You wouldn't be devouring mountains of cheetos in front of a computer screen if the inherent logic of the established mathematics was somehow false. The mental gymnastics employed by pseudointellectuals are astounding.

global warming lol no one gives a shit about that anymore. first it was y2k then it was global warming next it will be the dogs that shoot killers bees at you

>>720457520
Because china has weather controlling machines. They have and are.

>>720465058
>If you were anywhere near that intelligent you would immediately realize that numbers are symbols for concepts and within the context of this concept, 2 + 2 does indeed equal 4, for all these symbols entail on the highest level of abstraction

And if you weren't braindead you would see that CO2 allows heat into our atmosphere and doesn't let it out quickly.

Oops, looks like you're a fucking retard after all. Who knew that a majority scientific consensus held more weight than the opinion of a retarded man on his computer?

>>720457520
he doesnt think that. he thinks its the EPA overstepping thier bounds and stifiling our economy in a very signifigant way.

>>720465196
I'm a different anon, nigger. It's just that it's obvious by your arrogance and lack of self-awareness that you've not the slightest clue what you're spouting, and I'm willing to wager that extends beyond mathematics.

>>720465258
He does think that. He has said it

>>720465362
Talking about life skills on /b/ is like hitting a dead horse

>>720458719
he does not believe that. he believes that he is rich enough not to have to worry that the planest is fucked. but he can squeeze a few more dollars out of the coal and oil industry before it has to be shut down.

and it will be shut down. the science shows that 80% of known reserves cannot and must not be burned - so 80^% of already known reserves are worthless. As renewables become cheaper than oil and coal, and the world turns against carbon heavy fuels, the oil industry and coal guys - exxon and koch will go out of business. so they are making a last gasp bid to run up a bubble and make more money, and don't care if they fuck the planet - they have enough money to ride it out and live out their lives and don't care for anyone else.

>>720465258


The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 6, 2012

>>720459415
about scamming people, stealing and lying, yes, he does. about climate change, nah, not likely.

>>720465551
honestly its an argument that makes sense when you hear it from him

>>720459842
how small a percentage? what is the other forcing agent/ science sources on this?

or are you just bullshitting...

>>720464113
no i don't have them here they are at work. guy i worked with built the first satellite that measured co2

>>720457520
Because it is you brain washed nigger.

>>720457520
but but don't scientists agree that even if it is real then it's too late to do anything about it now anyway?

>>720460075
nope. Wrong.

you think that the thousands of scientists who have been debating this furiously for decades have overlooked that possible explanation and got it wrong...

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>>720465362
>I'm a different anon, nigger. It's just that it's obvious by your arrogance and lack of self-awareness that you've not the slightest clue what you're spouting, and I'm willing to wager that extends beyond mathematics.

If you had any sort of mental capacity above mongoloid you would see that you're spouting the same shit that conspiracy theorists spout about literally every single issue.

You think 9/11 was terrorists? That's just your arrogance, I can tell that you don't know what you're talking about, I have all the answers right here, see, a plane didn't hit the Pentagon.

The world is flat, oh you believe scientists when they say the earth is round? The complete arrogance, you're blindly trusting science, I can tell you haven't studied this as much as I have, here's the proof that the Earth is flat.

Please, you're just another run of the mill retard. Don't give yourself higher credit because you can take logic and spin it like literally everybody in the world can do. You're fooling yourself into believing something fucking retarded. The proof is there, you're just too stupid to read it.

Especially if you have questions, your first thought shouldn't be "These four thousand scientists are wrong." That's proof that you're guilty of being arrogant in the other direction, and in a much more stupid one at that.

>>720465700
What? I just showed it to you

Global warming will never be a solved issue ever. So what the fuck is the point in even continuing the conversation. You're asking every leader thats leaders, dictators everyone to all get involved in helping climate change.
Are you fucking living in a dream world.
Its not going to happen and trump getting in pretty much signing the deal that climate change is a thing in the past now. My country doesnt give a fuck about it either because there is to much shit happening now

>>720464985
You're not going to get any replies to this because it has facts and not cherry picked bullet points.

>>720465768
The logical fallacies in this post are too much
The reaction images tacked on to every post you make just makes it all that much better

>>720460227
so Ted Cruz is a weasel worded lying cunt who takes thing sout of context and has no scientific evidence to back up his (money grabbing) opinions then.

yeah we knew that.

>>720465501
>I'm making shit up
>I'm making shit up
>I'm making shit up
No. He said that he thinks it's a Chinese hoax.
Any interpretation on your part is purely speculation.
Delusional speculation.

>>720463314
Aging Hippie liberal douche detected

>>720465907
>The logical fallacies in this post are too much
>The reaction images tacked on to every post you make just makes it all that much better

What a fucking retard, is this actually your response?

>>720462198
he is secretary of state you mongoloid not energy secretary

>>720465614
How?
Do you have a citation or link?

i wonder what happened to that mh370 oh yeah its just forgotten just like everything else

>>720460815
but if you look a those fluctuations you also know why they happened - and that they took place over very long periods of time. the current anomaly is not like the other long period cycles. it is clearly different, and we can easily see why, and what is causing it.

and we know how to slow it down, and we need to find ways of stopping it. and Trump's policies are not going to help in either regard.

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>>720466068
Not the guy your replied to
I'm just pointing out what a colossal retard you are

>>720457520
because he is a fucking idiot

>>720466211
>Not the guy your replied to I'm just pointing out what a colossal retard you are

Actually you got butthurt because you disagree with me. It's literally that simple. Do you honestly have this low perspective that you think there can't be two retards in the world?

>>720461134
funny that China is now leading the world towards carbon neutral tech, and spending billions on developing it and green industry, and tackling its vast pollution problems.

they have read the science and see the future, and know they have to change and go green.

>>720458804
>Equating science with gender studies
You seriously must have either gone to mail order college or not taken a STEM course in your fucking life.
What exactly did you "question?"
What part of the evidence was inconsistent to you?

>>720465258
Just a few

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 4 Mar 2014

Baltimore just set a record for the coldest day in March in a long recorded history - 4 degrees. Other places likewise. Global warming con!

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 28 Jul 2014

It's late in July and it is really cold outside in New York. Where the hell is GLOBAL WARMING??? We need some fast! It's now CLIMATE CHANGE

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 29 Oct 2014

Just out - the POLAR ICE CAPS are at an all time high, the POLAR BEAR population has never been stronger. Where the hell is global warming?
141 replies 432 retweets 467 likes

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 17 Nov 2014

Obama’s China ‘climate’ deal binds America with language of ‘will’ curb emissions now while China only ‘intends’ to curb in 2030. Bad deal!
63 replies 103 retweets 139 likes

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 18 Nov 2014

There are many Jonathan Gruber types selling the global warming "stuff" - and they really do believe the American public is stupid.
76 replies 293 retweets 227 likes

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 26 Jan 2015

Where the hell is global warming when you need it?

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 19 Oct 2015

It's really cold outside, they are calling it a major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a big fat dose of global warming!
2,208 replies 7,351 retweets 10,681 likes

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 9 Sep 2014

Windmills are the greatest threat in the US to both bald and golden eagles. Media claims fictional ‘global warming’ is worse.

You can find a bunch more here

https://twitter.com/search?q=climate%2C+OR+warming+from%3Arealdonaldtrump&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

>>720466325
yeah but... fuck those guys

>>720457520
PMURT DRUMF IS AN ANTI VAXXER
I REPEAT PMURT DRUMF IS AN ANTI VAXXER
#PMURT ISNT MY PRESIDENT HE WILL PMURT AMERICA

>>720465768
When you are a contrarian on every issue imaginable, you are guiltier of the very things you're accusing that anon of. Have you personally gone to NASA and asked how it's possible they send rockets to space and why propellant is needed to thrust it onward against gravity that wouldn't correctly on a flat earth? Have you taken a telescope to the stars? How is it possible that out of all observable celestial bodies, only Earth remains flat, yet conforms to all of the same laws of physics? Christ, idiocy is painful to watch.

>>720465862
It should be _the_ priority, though. Whatever problems your country faces, whatever wars and crimes happen, nothing will be as bad as global warming in the long run, unless somebody decides to wage a nuclear war.
Global warming cannot be stopped after a certain period of time. The warming that is happening now will have effects that in themselves contribute to warming, i.e. when the permafrost of the Russian tundra melts and millions and millions of tons of gas that is bound in the soil is released into the atmosphere, or when the plankton that inhabits the top layer of the ocean, which is responsible for a large amount of CO2 > O2 transformation, dies due to warmth. If climate change is not stopped, the world is fucked up beyond repair. I can't wrap my head around how this is not _the_ major topic humans are concerned about, also factoring in that the effects of global warming will make vast landmasses uninhabitable, which in itself will worsen the situation on this planet more than we can imaging (think climate refugees).

>>720466446
Nigger what are you talking about

>>720466446
The earth is accelerating upwards magically at 9.8 m/s^2. That's how flat earthers rationalize gravity

>>720457520

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>>720466446
Did...

Did you read what you're replying to?

>>720457520
he doesn't have beliefs, he just has an ego

>>720462654
I wonder how much trump paid his doctor to just write that bullshit down

>>720466701
Seven dollars

>>720465768

Holy shit, no wonder you're so miserable.

>>720465058
>for all these symbols entail on the highest level of abstraction
This is the most embarrassingly autistic word salad I've ever seen in my goddamn life.

>>720466462
It doesn't matter. We're not as advanced as we think we are and honestly deserve to suffer the consequences.

>>720461287
I think the fact that you are quoting sixty year old science (supported by only a few people at the time and always heavily questioned and debated) is pretty interesting. it is a bit like saying all modern medicine is wrong because sixty years ago they thought ulcers were caused by stress, not bacteria.

also, the Himalyan glaciers are now vastly reduced - not quite gone, but going, the rainforests are vastly reduced, but fortunately someone listened and we did save some of them, sea level rises have not happened as fast as predicted, but if the ice shelves collapse as they might in the next decade, they will happen, no-one ever said snow would soon be a thing of the past (unless it was in a particular area - where was that, and are they wrong?) the fewer hurricanes paper was hotly contested, and the north pole was nearly ice free - liquid water at within 100 miles of the pole, in 2014 and 15, I think )look it up, I may be wrong, but it seems that quite a few of these predictions were near enough correct.

but don't worry, the fact that the last ten years have all been the hottest on record, year after year, is just a coincidence...

>>720461287
>we have been in a cooling trend for a long time,
really? says who?

data please

>>720466309
So your post isn't riddled with them? Can you sit there and honestly say you pulled them? If you can these folks are right and you're an idiot.
Then you hilariously do it again in this reply. I hope you ironically replied this way.

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>>720466781
Because I think he's arrogant for dismissing majority scientific consensus when he himself admitted he didn't have all the information?

You really think it's wrong for me to dissuade someone who admits to not having the facts from rejecting science without research? Why would you even say or think this you fucking retard?

>>720458804
>The cause of it however is up in the air,
but probably the unprecendented release of millions of years worth of dead trees - ie oil and coal burning in a few decades could have something to do with it.

>>720467026
You lost me at flat earth

>>720461287
A very small number of scientific papers were published in the 20th century that supported the idea of global cooling.
Even in the 1970s, the scientific consensus agreed that global warming was the trajectory the earth was headed.
Idiots cherry pick this small amount of data and ignore all the papers in support of global warming during this period.

>>720457981
So angry kid, why don't you finish your mountain dew and taco bell.

>>720466983
>So your post isn't riddled with them?

There is no logical fallacy, I'm literally outright saying that if you don't have all the information, rejecting science as your first thought is the dumber of two options.

The fact that you take arms against this is utterly shocking. There's nothing to get angry about, settle your shit.

>>720467137
You mean when I said that the Earth is round but people use "You're all sheep" to prove it as flat?

That's where I lost you? Pfft what the fuck dude

>>720461914
and no scientist has ever thought about any of these problems and come up with any reasonable estimates for the variables....

really? what have they been doing for the last sixty years... oh, science, adn debating and considering all those problems and trying to sort them out, and hey, they have got really good at it.

pretending that just because you have no idea about it no expert can have any idea about it is just not good enough.

>>720467272
Once upon a time on /b/ i used to get into all conspiracy theories and used to watch jesse ventura but then i realized humans are stupid.

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>>720466781
What is your favorite current album?

>>720467203
Point out where you identified my anger in that reply
If anyone seems angered, it's you. You're clearly very upset and the fact that you can't identify your poor argumentative skills tells me a bit about you. You don't have to be so "stand-offish" admit you are sperging out and come back with actual shit, no a little angry rant and a reaction image. >>720466867
This post was were you did good, no sperg out and your presented shit. Keep doing that, less >>720465768

>>720462374
Sad but true. Let's hope Trump being a tantrum throwing child will help force our allies and country to start considering reform. I hope his plan to bail on NATO is just a bluff used to force other parties involved into taking more responsibility for their own spending and defense.. but Trump is going about it all wrong. Like when you get a shitty new step dad who is intent on changing everything to make your gay immigrant Muslim family great again..

>>720461992
yeah grampaw, all those contributions to his campaign sure didn't buy anything. I mean, how else would Betsy De vos have got a job, or what about that nice Tillerson guy? Yeah, the Koch Bros super pac spent all that money and don't expect anything back.

funny how his campaign was willing to sell influence for a measly 2 million to chinese businessmen - and had it all worked out how to launder the illegal overseas donation - I wonder how many other people bought trump...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/

>>720462158
just move to China you fucker

>>720467448
Shania Twains Greatest Hits

>>720467408
Do you understand that I hate conspiracy theorists and that has been my point the entire time?

I spent last night laughing at Opie and Anthony making fun of Jesse in Loose Change.

THE WARRIOR SAYS

GET SOME THERMITE PAINT ON THAT BEAM

>>720462158
regulated but still a major polluter and still a major carbon emitter.

so, still fucking the planet, just not as badly as you would be if the free market ruled...

>>720460762
CO2 lags temperature by 800 - 2000 years fagget. plus your levels are way low, there is no proof temperatures increase from CO2.

>>720465791
no you need to compare the transmission of co2 and the atmosphere makeup and the radiation of earth that shit aint it. co2 transmission bottoms out way before its relevant

>>720467461
>Point out where you identified my anger in that reply
>If anyone seems angered, it's you. You're clearly very upset and the fact

Actually I'm quite happy with how things turned out. This is the first time in a while I haven't gotten angry during an argument. You're right I guess.

>>720460310
We have enough nukes to turn the entire planet into a radioactive wasteland 7 timed over, idiot. That's just one example.

>>720462729
why? not in the natural cycles we have seen in the past...

no it is being forced by something, and the only plausible culprit is the sudden and unnatural co2 jump

>>720467484
Kek. Gay immigrant Muslim family.

Do you believe that the earth has maintained the same temp for millions of years before man?

Do you believe that if it is the will of God for the temp of the earth to change, there is something humans can do to change the temp of the earth to what we think it should be?

>>720458804

you are just spewing talking points created by the oil interests.

It's simple to see whether man's actions could be causing the warming.

1) we know CO2 is a greenhouse gas and warms the planet

2) we know CO2 levels have risen steadily since the industrial revolution

3) it's a very simple calculation to look at how much CO2 we're putting into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels etc.

4) it's a very simple calculation to see what the concentration of CO2 will be when a known amount is put into the known volume of the atmosphere.

5) do the calculations and you see man is the primary cause of the global warming trend.

It's really quite simple.

It's so simple that EVERY SINGLE Republican ex-head of the EPA wrote a letter saying 1) Global warming is real and getting worse 2) it is cause by man and 3) there will be dire consequences if we don't act immediately.

That is the reality of it. ALL noise to the contrary is made by the oil interests.

Why dont you all have faith in him instead of constantly shit canning him seriously its sad how little faith you all have in your president. He wants to do well. Wish him the best and just let it pan out.

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>>720457520
Real scientists, as opposed to bribed science fair monkeys, know the climate changes arguments are bullshit and their crap (like Al Gore's movie) has been disproved time and time again.
Not sure about the Chinese, but in the cold war days Russia sent people here just to feed the lies in the hopes of weakening us from within.

>>720466422
>being this retarded

>>720467673
No, co2 absorbs highly in the IR range. That's basically all you need to know. Obviously if it's absorbing and emitting lower wavelength light than other gasesit contributes more to the greenhouse effect

>>720467986
stop whinging chink

>>720468010
exactly? theres already loads of it up there so adding more doesn't make any difference. do the calculations.

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>>720468102
>theres already loads of it up there so adding more doesn't make any difference.

>>720468102
Are you retarded? For one, there isn't "loads" it's like less than 2%. The problem is the rate that it's being added to the atmosphere is like 100x higher than any other time in history

>>720468153
problem?
you said yourself it absorbs highly thats my point.
its all fucking absorbed at that wavelength after a meter or two.

>>720459842

That's just not true. You're repeating talking points written by oil interests, not by scientists.

It's very simple to calculate. Amount of oil we burn > amount of CO2 we put in the atmosphere > divided by the volume of the atmosphere = clearly man made activities are responsible for most of the increase in CO2 and the warming.

Even a Trump supporter can do the math.

I hope our descendants, the ones who will have to suffer the consequences whilst fully understanding the principles of cause and effect, manage to bridge time and subsequently slaughter us. It's what we deserve.

>>720468274
Do you think it holds the energy permanently? It absorbs it and re emits itback into the atmosphere. Thanks for proving you dont even understand the greenhouse effect

>>720467546
good to know

>>720460310

it's simple high school math, not a "belief".

We know how much CO2 we create. Simple math. We know the volume of the atmosphere. Simple math. Those two things give us the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere caused by man. Simple math.

If you BELIEVE to the contrary, I'm going to need you to tell me where the CO2 goes. We know how much we're putting up there. We know the concentration that makes. We know that explains the increase in CO2. We know increased CO2 warms the planet.

It's all simple math, anon. Not "believe", not "arrogance". It's simple math that checks out or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

>>720468381
stand on your toes please
there was already enough gas to absorb everything before global warming. adding more doesn't trap more because its saturated

>>720468431
wasnt me but i lol'd

>>720465729
Ypu think thousands of people paid to find a purposed didnt find the purpose they were paid to find

>>720468257
Don't even bother, man. You're clearly more mature and knowledgeable than that guy, if he wants to come up with fifth grader like ideas to disprove daddy, you should let him twist in the wind and suffer for the rest of his life.

Imagine being so crazy that you assume science is a lie, and actively seek to prove it wrong without any foreknowledge of the subject. There's no logic beyond that point.

>>720468518
It's saturated? Do you even know what the definition of a saturated gas is? Adding more causes more energy to be absorbed and re emitted, it's not even a question

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http://climate.nasa.gov/

Here you go you ignorant dumb cunts. Keep spouting memes about 'natural cycles', as though climatologists don't understand them far better than you ever will.

Meanwhile, actual climate experts are continuously telling us we're fucked 6 ways to Sunday. The entirety of our existence is solely on this planet. All life that we know of is located on this planet. There is literally no where else for us to go. Once we've fucked Earth it can't be unfucked.

>>720468671
i had no idea this site even existed

>>720463078

you're delusional. There is ample proof that global warming is real and that it is caused by man. AMPLE proof.

You faggots who buy into the oil interests talking points that it isn't are the ones with no proof whatsoever.

You attack a given study. You ignore the evidence. You ignore the enormous body of evidence supporting anthropogenic global warming.

Did the oil interest tell you that EVERY single one of the Republican ex-EPA heads, every single one, signed a letter saying global warming is happening, it's caused by man and there will be dire consequences if we don't so something about it immediately.

Nearly ever single member of the National Academy of Sciences agrees - because of the enormous body of evidence.

It's the oil interests, and the poor saps who believe them, who have no evidence behind them.

This isn't opinion. You don't get to have alternate 'facts' on this.

times ago when one must spend his contempt with parsimony, because of a large number of needy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCVXnrQfzgA

>>720468723
It's honestly a great and thorough source, and I strongly recommend exploring it. Addresses a lot of basic questions and provides a comprehensive overview.....until the current administration gags it of course.

>>720457520
He doesn't - he just knows his audience well

>>720457520
Sure as soon as you explain why you can only cum when you think about your mom's butthole.

>>720468671
People are retarded bro.

>>720468863
America are fucking it the most

>>720457520
Climate change you scientifically illiterate fuck.

>>720468671
Trump is already ordering EPA to remove its climate change page, it's only a matter of time before he catches wind of NASA's. I for one couldn't really care less. If there is any possibility for the human species to wipe itself out, it should be allowed to happen, for the betterment of the universe.

>>720468990
In Australia we dont hear the words climate change too much

>>720457981
shut up you fucking Ruskie

>>720457520
He doesn't think it's a lie. He just thinks it will be worth it to himself and his elite friends to eschew it in favor of short term gains.

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>>720468723
>i had no idea this site even existed

Welcome to 4chan

>>720457520
He owes a lot of money in China.

>>720457520
> madonna is ugly
he got that right

>>720468779
>You attack a given study. You ignore the evidence. You ignore the enormous body of evidence supporting anthropogenic global warming.

No but don't you see? If I can imagine a motive for why someone would fake it that means it must be faked.

It doesn't matter how retarded it is, it's what I believe, and you can't stop me with "Undeniable, overwhelming proof". I shant be swayed by logic or reasoning.

>>720469201
whats with the peaks around 1990, 1995 and 2014

>>720458804
>bad science
You must be allergic to facts. The essence of the scientific method is -critical thinking-, which means yes, they've questioned our role in the grand scheme of things time and time again. Where the masses need to do more of in that regard is politics. There isn't a single original thought or opinion not inherited from a bias-appealing, populist politician in America.

>>720469362
Lrn2science

Because Ameritards are idiots and believe him giving him votes.

>>720469297
>I shant be swayed by logic or reasoning.

kek. yeah, that sums up the anti-global warming crowd.

The war on science is ramping up. gawd help us all.

>>720469297
Thats religion.

>>720469490
im not anti global warming i just dont care enough about it. i could get cancer or a brain clot tomorrow and die so fuck it. the human race is doomed ill be dead before then i wont care when im dead

>>720469600
This mindset sums up everything wrong with the human race. This. This is going to be what kills our species, apathy.

>>720469600

fair enough.

>>720463818
this is the kind of person you really need to worry about...the kind who demands action on it NOW

that means he wants for you to use less energy, drive shittier cars, eat less food and die now rather than later because global warming is just years away not hundreds of years

these ppl are fine with indirectly murdering the impoverished and less privileged

meanwhile, i guarantee you nobody with any power who actually believes in global warming will be practicing what they preach. they will be living with huge 'carbon footprints' while you starve and die

that's what it's really about, there is no man-made global warming, it's all about enslavement

>>720469758
what mindset. what mind do you have when you will be dead in probably the next 40 years. Yeah okay you can care about future generations but personally i only care about myself and my life for the next 40 or so whatever years i have. So you guys go ahead and be climate scientists

>>720469758
Not as badly as stupidity and contrarianism. We cut down on finite fossil fuels that will run out and find healthier alternatives that maintain and even cultivate what is left of the earth's beauty anyway, and in the slim event that we're wrong, we have an overall better earth? Fuck me, climate change isn't the slightest bit influenced by our energy methods!

>>720469758
it's fine to be apathetic toward nonexistent things, it benefits humanity

Because he's a cuck

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Oh. No.

>>720468985
That's an interesting but stupid perspective...

>>720470003
This is actually the most reasonable perspective ITT.

It's like the argument that even if there is no God, you are better off offhandedly believing in him anyway in the event that he exists.

We know fossil fuels will run out, we cannot rely on them, therefore we should be phasing them out anyway. The most obvious result is a better earth, so why not do it anyway?

>>720470235
>Explain why little Tommy, your report card will be printed soon!

because his bff is rex tillerson of exxon mobile.

>>720457520
Because there is no evidence that proves this, especially without all kinds of "adjustments"

seriously tho. why does americans have such a hard time understanding science?

>>720470300
Ever since i was a kid i never could understand how some people are so weak they need to rely on religion and not accept that we're floating on a rock thats perfect distance from the sun and moon to create life. Like i accept death. I dont expect anything from it. You only have one life on this planet so stop worrying about stupid shit like trying to be a superhero and save the planet. Captain planet was a cartoon guys

>>720464985
There was also a strong consensus that the Earth was the center of the universe for a long time. That turned out well.

Science isn't about consensus, dipshits. Either there's objective and conclusive evidence to support (or disprove) a theory ...or there's not. If there was objective and conclusive evidence to support the claims of the AGW crowd, then whether "a consensus" existed or not would be moot: the evidence would speak for itself. The fact that AGW apologists continue to talk about "the consensus" means the science is still inconclusive at best.

>>720470505

you're wrong. just plain wrong.

You've been taught by the oil interests to attack a given study. To say 'it's only a theory'. To say that it's scientists lying to get grant money.

The fact is the overwhelming body of evidence supports it. No handwaving needed. None.

You're just shilling for the oil interests and you don't even realize it.

>>720470737

this is a red herring.

Science is about looking at the evidence to see if it supports the theory. There is a HUGE amount of evidence supporting man-made global warming. There is virtually no evidence against.

There wasn't a huge body of evidence that the earth was the center of the universe. In fact there was none. It was belief.

You're comparing apples to grenade launchers anon. Shit aint relevant doesn't doesn't prove anything.

>You have no point.

>>720464702
Having money doesn't mean you are smart anon. Why would you think that.

>>720470750
I dont get these people at all.
> LETS RISK THE ENTIRE PLANET ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT A FEW STUDIES ARE RIGHT OVER THE 99% OF ALL THE OTHERS

>>720470653
The point is that you don't know for sure either way, thus the safest and ergo, most logical conclusion you can make is the one that might provide the most benefit, it just so happens to be applicable to the issue of climate change as well, cutting down on finite fossil fuels and fully harnessing natural energy sources because there is no downside and in fact many benefits for doing so. Solar panels have already come a long, long way, and could improve exponentially faster if they became as popular as commercial computers.

>>720470904
>Science is about looking at the evidence
Yep - and we have zero other data points with which to compare our observations of this massively, ludicrously complex system called "global climate". The earth has never had industrialized humans living on it at this scale before, yet the earth has gone through massive climate changes before - there's no way to know if the current climate changes are perfectly typical and unrelated to human influence or not. The best we can do is guess, and our best climate model guesses so far don't fit real great. At all. So at best it's still an open question, and therefore all the hyperfreakout is unwarranted.

Best argument ITT: we should explore cleaner base load fuel technology because it just makes sense over the long run ...not because WHARGARBL THE EARFFFF IS BE KILL

Also, kek:
>There wasn't a huge body of evidence that the earth was the center of the universe. In fact there was none. It was belief.
The best technology of the time - laughable by current standards - all supported this belief with observation: "What do you mean the Earth isn't the center of the universe? All of these heavenly bodies CLEARLY orbit around us - just look at their motions!"