What do you think about the new wall we're building

i don't really give a shit, but it better look cool.

>>720269094
We can't even keep our roads properly paved
Who the hell thinks we are going to be able to pay for upkeep for the wall and people to man it
Seems like a huge waste of money

>>720269338
We already cut funding to Obamas bullshit EPA and the UN so that saves a lot

>>720269338
>Seems like a huge waste of money.

No fucking shit dude.

>>720269338
thats my exactly my point. it makes no sense and would single handedly be the most expensive infastructure project in america EVER

>>720269338
Why? I don't want mexican rapists and child molesters and gangs here

>>720269540
Mexico will pay!

>>720269094
All the taxpayer money for this wall could be put to better use, like kickstarting universal healthcare or even student loan forgiveness, universal college education.

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If it's anything like the one in CA, it's more like a giant fence. Mexicans dig tunnels under it that lead to abandoned warehouses, but it does help a bit.

Honestly, I hope it works. We've been talking about the need for a wall for decades, but will it actually do anything? For the amount of money we're putting up, it damn well better. I'd hate to see us waste a fuckton of money on nothing, but we do need to tighten that southern border.

>>720269658
Thats bullshit, Mexico dont give a shit about that wall, if USA want it, so, you pay it

>>720269094
i voted trump to destroy america so i feel breddy gud about whatever he does

>>720269648
Seem like there are better options to securing our borders then a fucking wall.

We GUN keep DEM DAMN MONGULS OUT

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Some of the people working on it are going to be killed. Does Cheeto really think the cartels won't have snipers taking potshots at the workers?

>>720269802
No. Mexico will pay every for every dime of it.

>>720269658
>3rd world country will pay

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>>720269338

>>720269094
Waste of fucking money.

Most of them get here on expired visas and the orange man is fucking us over.

>>720269716
It will be a waste. around 20-30 percent of illegal aliens come on airplanes and just over stay their allowed time here

>>720269716
you know what would stop those cartels? making drugs noncriminalized which effectively destroys 90% of cartel business because the amount they can sell drugs drops dramatically if it is no longer illegal

the problem is not them, it is ourselves

>>720269486

Nowhere near as much as the drain of illegals on the system.

We don't even need a wall, though... just to enforce immigration law, unlike the Obama admin.

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>>720269338

>>720269984
truth, middle america hicks dont understand this though

I've seen this shit first hand with a Libyan friend, he overstayed his visa and got a fake marriage, which to be fair he was american as fuck but yeah

>>720269094
Shit is kinda there already. Just gotta mend a few holes. I think he's trying to rip of Mexico and make them pay full price for an already existing wall. That's my business man!

>>720269094

im just waiting until the mexicans find a way to get passed it and the trump tards have a meltdown over it

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Obama welcomes illegals terrorists trump send em packin and puts up a wall so the can't come back. Can we build dome so we can keep the rest out.

>>720269892
I will make a correction for you, the taxpayers are gonna pay for it with every single dime

>>720269094
I just wish it went all the way around them country

>>720269880
Mexican govt soldiers take pot shots at our border patrol often enough that this isn't crazy talk.

As an eurofag, i can't wait to see your economy plummeting.

>>720270416
Why? Our newly-empowered DHS will just kick them back out and fine Mexico for it

>>720270480
No, Mexicans will pay for it :)

>>720270416
In CA, that wall is patrolled pretty well. They have guard posts, mobile vehicles, drones, cameras along the wall, etc. The problem is that expanding this model to police the wall effectively is going to be an astronomical economic burden.

>>720270571
Don't hold your breath.

>>720270571
Bit odd to see a Eurofag hate Mexico that much.

>>720269094
This nigger trump is spending money on the wrong thing.
We need missile defense systems and space satellites.

> 1,954 Miles
3,14465036 Kilometers. retard.

>>720270571
Do you have any idea how busy Trump has been this week? The number of meetings, the promises made, the executive actions enacted, promises kept. It hasn't even been a full week and already the man is a goddamn hero.

We're gonna build a wall, and bitch at this rate it isn't even going to be the biggest thing he does as President.

>>720270812
you forgot your decimal retard

>>720270748
He's talking about USA.

>>720270711

>economic burden

>in ca

its also an economic burden to pay for you welfare degenerates healthcare,but i didnt see anybody bitching about that

>>720270711
You know that there's literally no possibile way to patrol a 1900 mile wall. All the Mexicans have to do is use rope or a ladder and that's that. Why the fuck Trump supporters can't understand this is beyond me. If prisoners are able to break out of prison under surveillance, then Mexicans will have no problem getting over the wall.

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I can't wait too see the liberals strapping themselves to cactus's and shit so they can't build a wall where they are.
You faggots are all makeing a lot of logical fallacy's when you talk about the wall
>HURRRERR THE WALL WON'T STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTSZZZ
yeah I know
>HAHA THEN WHY DO YOU WANT A WULL TRUMPTARD?!?!? XDXDXD
Because it will curb illegal immigration. I bet america will even save money on the wall. Did you know that the average amount an illegal immigrant gets in pay outs from the government every year is $5,692.
Source
Cis.org/Cost-Welfare-immigrant-native-households
The average immigrant household pays $10,334 in taxes a year. A household includes MULTIPLE illegal immigrants so this number is split between them. Then you must Exclude the half of undocumented houses that are purportedly paid under the table and hence pay zero taxes to the government yet still recieve federal aid.
Www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/oct/02/maria-teresa-kumar/how-much-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes/
Now simply figured out how much money we save per immigrant based on this assumption. Multiply it by a rough number of illegal immirgrants (it's hard to count them considering they don't want to be counted and found) and then multiply that number by 30 years.
The wall will have litterally payed for itself and then some you lucky tax payers!
Thanks Trump!

>>720270803
No, what we need is free Healthcare for everyone that can prove they're citizens of the US.

>>720270957
Go ahead, tell me me how USA is better now ?

>>720270957

>the executive orders enacted

>while he gets praised for it from the same people who called obama a communist for doing the same thing

>>720269188
I hope it's got flame decals

If there are muricans in the thread:
If you build this wall vould you at least mount solar power panels on the top the wall. It would be a great for the US .

>>720271122

we dont need free healthcare,we need to start giving the people who contribute to society stuff.not the ones who sit on there ass and collect welfare instead

The wall in Berlin didn't work as well as expected.
>Mfw mexican will see the wall as a challenge and even more of them will cross the border.
>Mfw people realise in 5 years that Trump completely failed.

>>720271106
Damn this is actually changing my opnion on the wall.

>>720271097
>>720271097
you can totally patrol it - expect massive new funding for military drones - gotta keep the MIC churning. Especially if we aren't going to war in Ukraine.

You always have to have an enemy. If is ain't russia ( thanks Puty bud ) its gonna be China and Mexico.

>>720269540
More than the Panama Canal?

>>720270480
Trump already stated that mexico is paying for it you autistic fuck

>>720269338
Because it is. People are stupid and gullible.

>>720269696
divide the cost by 300M and send us all a check

>>720271212
Meh, nearly every president signed an assload of execs during their first month. I didn't blame Obama for it, and I don't blame Trump for it. It's practically a tradition for new presidents.

>>720271317

5 years? most people already know trump has completely failed

his only supporters are the extreme right wing who,when they see there tax money paying for this wall instead of mexico.wont even support him anymore

>>720271601

>during their first month

obama spent 8 years signing executive orders though

>>720271312
So send them to work building, maintaining, and patrolling there wall.

>>720269892
Hahahah. Jesus, you cant really be this stupid can you?

>>720271106
You have no idea how bad the logistic of engineering "muh wall" will be in many areas. Border isn't just flat desert and it will be near impossible to build it in certain areas, but I don't expect Trump voters to be anything but ditch diggers.

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>>720270416
Trumptards will deny it but it'll be fun to see libtards actively celebrating illegal immigration

>>720271317
>>720271317
2 years, 5 is too much time for this idiot.

>>720270989
Liberia, Myanmar and USA.
Congratulation! You're stuck in the past with 2 antiquated countries, using an outdated system!

>>720271603
If you're lucky, at the end of Trump era or a bit before. We, eurofags will agree to buy USA for a few bucks.

>>720271661
Yeah, I've got plenty of shit to hold against Obama. Couldn't stand the man personally. But that time has come and gone.

I plant to view Trump's actions without comparing all of them to his predecessors. So far I think he's done a decent job. I don't agree with everything, and am very skeptical about his cabinet. But he's fulfilling those campaign promises that the media said he never would. Like it or not, the man is doing what he said and I respect that.

>>720271909
kek!

>>720270060
illegal immigrants don't drain anything from the system and this wall will do nothing to stop them from coming into the country

>>720271445
What?, if things cost more to export us citizens will pay for it.

>>720272063
In your dreams

>>720271212
Right. He's bypassing Congress for nearly everything he's doing, and Congress isn't bitching about it because it's not Obama. Do you like having massive amounts of smog in your cities every single day? Shut down the EPA and see what happens. Do you like your public use land? Well that's going for good when he defunds the BLM. Do you want full transparency from your government? Well fuck that. Trump has already forbidden every government agency from using social media to provide updates. He's also accusing the press of being fake, and then tells the press what they should report or face consequences. He's also pushing flagrant lies in press conferences. Claims voter fraud. Where's the proof of people actually committing voter fraud? Innaguration numbers? He's providing fake numbers.

>>720269094
who is going to pay for it?

>>720272087
He was way too cool. You're not even worth sucking his dick, i can smell your neckbeard frustration from here. Your body disgusts me, faggot.

>>720271989
You still forgot your decimal faggot.

>>720272168
Be nice, or i'll make you my personal bitch. Kek

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>>720269094
instead of putting more money on drones, officers, etc, the money is being spent on a fucking wall that is completely worthless at stopping spics. Fucking great.

>>720271325
What the fuck is a drone going to do? Buzz around the Mexicans in the desert in a desolate area with no access road? Nearest border patrol? How far away are they?

>>720272240
Mexico

>>720269094
i think it won't be funded by Congress so it won't be built.

>>720269439
Doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the costs involved.

>>720269094
a) Never going to happen. The terrain is too rugged in most places.
b) Walls don't work unless they're manned (Berlin Wall, Great Wall)
c) Mexico ain't paying for shit - they can't even afford gasoline.
d) You're a fucktard if you believe anything Trump says.

>>720272397
Berlin wall failed faggot.

>>720269658
...the value of the Mexican peso plummeted a year and a half ago. The president hinted that he'd pay for the wall
>in monopoly money

Its the biggest diplomatic "fuck you" I think I've ever seen.

>>720272369
how the fuck is a third world shithole going to pay for anything? Even more the fucking wall is worthless at stopping them.

>>720272185

>do you like having massive amounts of smog in your cities every single day

ive never seen any smog in my city,maybe you should move out of your libtard big city if your so fucking worried about it,trump and republicans arent enviromentalist hippy faggots like the left are

>>720271884
It's a fucking wall faggot.
You are acting like we are trying to build rocket launch pad on the side if a mountain. It goes straight up faggot. You poor cement and make it go straight up.
Sounds like illegal immigrants are more qualified to build the damn wall then you are.
Jesus fucking christ, you fucking faggots will attack anything.
If I told you trump wanted to save a child from a put of alligators you'd fucking attack any method he used
>THAT LADDER TRUMP PUT IN THE PIT ISN'T MADE OUT OF TITANIUM ALLOY
>KILLING THE ALIGATORZ IZ BAD
>>TRUMP GOING IN AND SACRIFICING HIS LEFT ARM AND LEG TO SAVE THE BOY WAS FUCKING STUPID HAHA WUT AN IDIOT
you don't even want anything he does to work. You just wanna be a faggot about everything he does and whine. Regardkess of wether it helps or hurts you.
Shut the fuck up you little cupcake fruit boi gay fag.
The men are talking

>>720269486
Martin?
Dude one military jet cost 400billion dollars. The wall isn't shit in comparison

>>720272369
Stop being a gullible idiot, plz.

>>720269094
After reducing costs with all the money we're giving to foreign countries and defunding the EPA to allow privatized environmental protection, there's a lot of money available if we save up for about a year to actually do this. I think it'll be absolutely fucking useless and do absolutely nothing like he says it will, but it'll make jobs during its constructions which means more families and more tax money and thus more income. It's like a temporary economic solution that isn't going to solve anything. Hey, atleast it'll establish some sort of fear factor for the states, which'll be interesting to watch.
>I'm German.

>>720271106
A ladder and or rope defeats walls. Mexicans are very ingenious and will figure out how to get over on day 1.

>>720271603
Trump is going to cut taxes and just let the deficit absorb it

>>720271884
Yeah, that's why you hire... engineers.

>>720272063
By that point you'll be west asiafags

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>>720272552
what the fuck is the point of building a shitty wall then? specially when it is 2000 miles worth of wall?

>>720272746

still doesnt make it any better,its a waste of money and you trumpkins are to stupid to see the failure its going to become

>>720272552
What you say makes no sense, your level of retardation is over barron level. You're so stupid, no wonder why your country is gonna be ruined.

>>720272552
You are right about one thing, we dont want anything he proposes to work. Why? Because he is an infantile narcissistic fucking moron with almost zero grasp on reality or anything other than shitty overpriced hotels.

>>720271106
My God the hate fuming from the leftist furnace is hot as hell

>>720271328
no, not at all. but when you're 17 and mad that hillary didn't win you'll lie on the internet.

A.) Ladders exist so it won't even fucking work, and
B.) That's for the best, 'cause soon enough Americans will be fleeing to Mexico to escape to a better life.
C.) Buy a ladder now, guys.

>>720272185
https://youtu.be/J5K5KFtedqc

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>>720272372
The Gitmo way

>>720271277
This

>>720269094
Massive waste of money.

>>720271909
That gets me every time

>>720272552
>poor cement
>then you are
>a put of alligators
>wether

typical uneducated neo-fascist detected.

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>>720269540
Can't afford a 20billion dollar wall but can pay over 400billion for a jet that doesn t work

>>720272527
God you are fucking stupid. Look at pictures of Los Angeles in the 50s - 70s. The city had so much air pollution that people were told that it was unsafe to breathe the air for long periods. Once CA started regulating pollution the air quality got much better. Air quality is actually better than what it was back then even with having a ton more people living there.

>>720272817
I aint paying anything.

>>720269094
I bet most of the workforce for the wall, would be latinos, USA, land of the dumb, home of the slave.

>>720272708
Can't believe a fellow eurofag can be this retarded. You're a shame to our countries.

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Sounds stupid, if the guy proposed hiring more border patrols, better equipment (cameras, drones, etc) and making it harder for illegals to work, then yes.

But a god dam wall will not solved anything. It is not that dam hard to overcome it.

all we need really are 2 around the clock AC-130 crews to decimate any faggots who try to cross the border desu senpai

>>720272466
Go to wikipedia before you open your bitch whore mouth.

>>720273028

>los angeles

>just proved my point when i mentioned libtard big citys

los angeles can rot in hell for all i care,california is the worst state in america

>>720273009
I like how you choose to attack my grammer instead of my arguement.

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>>720271989
we still use metric you fucking idiot

>>720273122
Kill yourself you fucking worthless shitbag.

>>720269094
I think we should paint a big, hairy, veiny, dick along the mexian side as a symbol of unity because everyone could use a good dicking. The balls should begin at the gulf of Mehiko the tip of the head should be somewhere in the middle of Arizona and it should be shooting a big nasty load off the coast of California.

>>720269094
It'll create a lot of jobs, but the mice'll find another way to get it.

>>720269094
useless thing will not get built. money will line Trump's allies pockets.

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>>720273150
>grammer

>>720271445
This anon isn't wrong. That's what that whole trip to Mexico ages before the election was about. If Mexico pays for the wall, all debt between us is cleared and set, Mexico doesn't owe us shit and can't be penalized for anything previous. I find it hard to believe that they're in debt to us, but I guess you learn something new every day. Either that or those are some really nice Mexicans down there.

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>>720272898
I think you meant name licensing

>>720273122
And CA is the 7th largest economy in the world. Where are you from? Alabama? Enjoy retardation.

>>720273122
Yeah because we all know that only democratic states get smog. This is what the country will look like with no EPA https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/atoms/article_atoms/www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/smoggy-civic-center.jpg

>>720273121
>thinks Wikipedia is a reliable source of information.

Kys

>>720273121
Dont worry about me faggot. I know perfectly i'm right. The wall failed so badly, Stasi's only job was to report escaping and hidding murders they commited. Also it almost ruined East Germany.

>Mfw history has already proved this kind of behavior leads to misery.

>>720272898
Which makes you a giant gay fuck boi
If he does something good you should support him. If he does something bad you should say you disagree with him and why.
Not just call him a racist and bitch and moan while making up problems for his solution that don't really exist.
You realise you are the problem right?
Not him

>>720271328
that's tough, i think the Panama Canal cost more, only the new plan for expand it cost around 5,25 billion, if you add the previous costs.. but the Panama canal is an investment, you can easily gain a lot of money from it, from a simple wall no

>>720269094

It's cool.

It's free (Mexicuck will pay).

Can't see why not build it.

>>720270708
Holy shit it's like talking to a wall.

Geddit :)

Son, no matter how much you repeat it, it's just not going to happen.

>>720273413

cry harder faggot,nobody but dumb liberals and gays live in california,enjoy being surrounded by the trash of society

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>>720271097
You think we can't field 1900 infantry?
With the slight tweaking of a few rosters we could have 10,000 troops there by tomorrow morning.

And it's really not hard to keep an eye out with drones or regular ol' cameras.

"But cameras can't stop people from doing anything!"

No shit, that's why you station personnel a few miles in from the border, waiting for the word to roll out.

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>>720272552
>>720272556

>three seconds on google

More expensive military jet: F-22 Raptor: $350 million

Trump Wall estimated cost: 15-25 billion

>>720273222
trips speak the truth, but the system is still outdated.

>>720273150
the argument is well attacked by others.

you need attacking too. faggots who dropped out of high school to become burger king workers in the same town for their entire lives don't deserve to have political opinions.

>>720270957
>We're gonna build a wall, and bitch at this rate it isn't even going to be the biggest thing he does as President.

Yup, World War III sounds pretty big to me.

>>720272877
Glad you were able to come up with an intelligent response and not an ad hominem attack.

>>720272512

They will pay with land. Mexico will have to give away Baja California and some other states to pay for it.

>>720273451
This isn't Europe and don't compare us to them ever again. The wall is going to work because we're going to make it work

>>720273451
>I know perfectly i'm right
>escaping and hidding murders

mfw learn to fucking speaka da Engrish you fucking autist

>>720273552

>its free

no its not

>its cool

if you think being next door to a country thats goverment is a drug cartel is cool

i agree on the fact we need to fix our immigration system in this country,but building walls and fences isnt where we should start

>>720273485
Um, no. Because the problems he wants to solve are delusions, and his proposed solutions have no chance of succeeding even if they were real.

Please kill yourself, and any inbred children you spawned.

>>720273687
You wouldn't understand a correct answer. People like you only understand insults, middle fingers and shit.

>>720273563
Really? Because if you look at the news, it appears that you're wrong

>>720269094
>a few months
Sure, and it will just cost "a few dollars" too

>>720273018
with 2457 new stealth fighter planes you could kill a lot of mexicans, and when they are dead they don't try to enter US

>>720273625
So why don't you attack my arguement the. Fag.
You can barely type out nore than a sentence.
I don't need to go back and check my spelling to convey the same point.
If all you are gonna do is bitch about spelling then get the fuck out because the grownups have bigger things to discuss then a spelling mistake.
Bye :)

>>720273067
If it makes you feel better, I've been living in the States for a few years now.

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>>720271989

>>720273822
Another ad hominem attack.
How graceful of you

>>720273697
Sure man, can't wait to fap over your failure.

>>720270036
Extremely underrated post.

>>720273955
That's where you belong, with the retards, retard.

>>720273974
I'm gonna ad homin em your ass, bitch.

>>720273753
So illegal immigration is an illusion?
I just want to be clear thats what you are saying before I drown you in statistics...

>>720272552
>you don't even want anything he does to work. You just wanna be a faggot about everything he does and whine. Regardkess of wether it helps or hurts you.
>Shut the fuck up you little cupcake fruit boi gay fag.
>The men are talking

Sounds exactly like the Republicans after Obama took office.

>>720273982

It's called Annexation. Mexico will have to give away Baja California as payment for the wall.

>>720273709
This. They already have fucking underground highways. We need more drones and and some kind of periodic underground survey, a wall isn't going to solve anything.

>>720273581
The military is forbidden to be assigned missions in the homeland. It would have to be national guard, but even then how exactly would you station 10,000 troops along a 1900 mile border where most areas have 0 access roads or services? It's also impossible to build a complete road along the border because of geography. There's parts of the border that go through mountains and otherwise impassible terrain. It's logistically impossible to keep every single Mexican out. No matter what size wall they will find a way to get over.

>>720272114
your input is noted, and discarded. thanks

>>720269094
They need to run the wall all the way up the East boarder of California to keep those cunts out of Texas. I here Colorado, Oregon and Washington hate the Cali immigrants crossing our borders as well

>>720274030
>>720274030
Back to the salt mines faggot

>>720273619
They're talking about the cost of research and development, not a per-craft cost.

The jet itself isn't in production.

>>720274101
To the degree you imagine? Yes.

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>>720273003
Agreed. I was jerking off to Hillary more than anyone but some things are just fucking funny

now how am i going to buy hookers and eat amazing tacos on my weekends?

>>720273959
What the hell happened to this anon?

>>720274134
So at best you are exactly what you hate?

>>720269984
This is right.

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>>720273973

>they used metric for that

>>720274200
>>720274200
Will still make me richer than Trump America.

>>720272490
Kys kekold

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>>720271989
At least it isn't Siam

>>720274285
I voted for Obama last election and Trump this election. Not everyone blindly follows whatever fox/cnn tells them.

why dont we just militarize the border and shoot anyone trying to cross? works well in Korea

>>720274167
We need more fracking to cause earthquakes then they tunnels will collapse

>>720269094
Why don't we just put that wall around California to keep those faga out. Sell it to Mexico

>>720271548
30 Bill wall that's $100 for each us citizen. Id say it's worth it

>>720273973
>been on the moon fpr 1-3 days ages ago.
>gained nothing form it
>MURICA BEST, MURICA SPACEMAN!
great job!

>>720273552

Trump will swindle his Trump-magic spin and justify the whole deal with; "We're creating more manufacturing jobs to build the materials, and machinery to build the wall." And, of course the workers to build the wall. Private companies contracted by the government. Paid by US. "Mexico will pay us back." Tariffs? Taxes? Ok, so america will be paying a shitload more for products made in mexico, to reimburse for the wall? Enjoy the luxury of things as they are folks.
Get ready for the end.

TOO SMALL

>>720274536
Then don't tell your country respects human rights and get shot randomly by a cop.

>>720271445
>>720272490

>>720274180
We have hundreds of miles of land to fill with whatever we want. We can maintain a goddamn perimeter.

Off the top of my head, we can station troops along the wall, one troop for ever half mile (we could make it a quarter mile, but whatever), each of which is delivered supplies by courier system, distributing supplies that arrive by sea at designated depots on either coast.

Seriously, it is not (relatively) expensive or unfeasible to have a bunch of guys patrol a long line.

If ancient China can do it, modern America can do it.

>>720272834
why did we build roads. any idea how much much fucking money is wasted on building roads so worthless drivers and companies could transport easier? now a fucking wall to keep people from walking in when they could just fly. wtf why do we even bother?

>>720274180
Just build one longer multi branch military base along the border

>>720271603
I'll gladly pay for the wall so will everyone that voted for him. For just fifty cents a day for a year

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>>720273982
I'm gonna love seeing some tanks on the beach

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>>720269094
Hope we give criminals the option to guard the wall for life instead of prison. Also, schweet duster coats are a uniform must.

>>720274593
I don't even pay $100 for my fucking cell phone bill.

If I had the choice between keeping $100 and spending it on a useless wall, I'd choose to keep the fucking $100 every time.

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>>720274630
Your envy is delicious.

>>720274101
Get ready for some fresh alternative facts!

>>720274519
I truly doubt than unless you did alot of maturing over the last 8 years
My point still stands though that it's stupid to condemn everything the man does as wrong without giving him a chance. If you automaticaly assume everything he does is bad then you prevent yourself from recieving anything good.
Not you in specific but any ody

>>720271277
Bunnies

>>720272118
We dont need shit from Mexico and if you do you can pay for it

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>>720274687

Those events are highly publicized because they make for good news stories. In reality they are incredibly uncommon; outliers when viewed within the scope of all violent crime in the US.

>>720273625
>don't deserve to have political opinions.
not the same faggot, but dont you have dishes to do?

>>720273832
Oh hey, are you Trump? Just by saying "wrong" you'll get what you want?

Faggot, Mexico will NEVER pay for it.

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>>720274180
We need automated seek and destroy drones constantly patrolling the mountainous areas.

>>720271328
The Panama Canal was expensive, but with a canal, one has a continued stream of income coming back from it. It provided a chokehold on global trade, and paid itself back quickly.
A wall, however, does little; the majority of illiegal immigrants merely overstay their visa- In short, the wall has no long term benefits besides "feeling" safer.

>>720274536
The south doesn't shoot DPRK defectors, retard

>>720269094
What do you expect from electing a billionaire? Here's a pro tip about how the rich work: offer to construct mega-structures (towers, bridges, monuments, walls, et al) and employ taxpayer funding. That way, taxpayers foot the majority of the bill, the rich pay maybe 15-20%, and when the mega structure is built, there's a huge mark-up to provide for run-off for other billionaires along the project, and then tolls/random fees are associated with the mega structure for the public, so that they ultimately pay once for the construction and then pay consistently thereafter.
>tl;dr you're all a bunch of fucking idiots if you let this happen

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>>720274630

>>720275347

im sure the north probably shoots them before they even reach the zone between north and south korea

>>720269094
Seems like a good idea, but when you look further into the details, you'd be surprised.

>The wall will have to cut through lots of obstacles, such as rivers, mountains, landmarks, villages, etc.
>Our taxes will go up to an extremely high amount
>Millions upon millions of dollars will be lost from paying for the materials needed to build the wall
>Tightening security will only reduce the amount of LEGAL immigrants coming to the U.S
>40% of undocumented immigrants come from overstayed visa passes. In short:
Planes > Wall
>And no, the wall is not going to magically stop all thousands of illegal immigrants that cross over every year.

Now, you might think, "Well mexico is paying for all of this right?" Nope. You're wrong. Mexico has denied all of Trump's demands for payment. The only way we'd get Mexico to pay us is starting a war.

>>720274637
What the fuck does mexico sell us? Oranges? Bitch we'll beat California back from being a liberal state and they'll grow oranges

>>720275560
Oil and tourism are what the gringos get from Mexico. They also sell a lot of their shit to Mexico, but not for much longer.

>>720274101
>statistics matter at this point
>illegal immigration is this brand new concept that we've never heard of before or tried to address in the last 50 years

I bet you think the national debt is a brand new problem too. If you actually LIVE on the border of Mexico and the US, you'd see what a money pit the fucking thing ALREADY IS. And you'd also see how ineffective the system is to begin with.

>>720275560
Mexico is currently our third largest trading partner in the entire world. They definitely sell us a lot more than oranges.

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People talk about how insane impossible and how much time and money it would cost to build trumps wall in 2017 but forget about this.

>>720269094
Cost trillions to make
Will be 100s of millions a year to maintain
We will be paying for it (tax payers)
And it wont slow the incoming drugs and immingrants.
Sounds great to me.

>>720274756
Precisely- most illegals fly in, and then overstay their visas. This wall is pointless.

>>720274743
Modern America is ALREADY DOING THAT. And why am I paying for wars in the Middle East when, according to your shit tier logic, its just as simple as stationing those troops on a wall?

>>720269094
I think it's retarded. I think the motivation behind it is sadly misguided, and I think the wall itself will be ineffective as fuck, even if you ignore whether or not we SHOULD build it. I fucking hate humanity.

>>720275780
That's a pretty short wall tbh

>>720275077
Yes they will. Lol

>>720273973
Nasa uses metric though

>>720275058
I hope they're uncommon man, i want you to be safe.

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>>720275445
Dukat did nothing wrong.

>>720269094
well it's just gonna be a fence extension anyway. what are boats and planes? It won't solve the "problem", we're gonna spend way too much money and prevent like 100 of the dumbest immigrants that didn't bring a ladder.

>>720275722
This.

>>720273028
Thus is true. Look at China now

>>720274687
>randomly robbed the convenience store
>gets shot randomly
>how can anybody feel safe in this god forsaken white mans country

>>720275780

and china used to be,or still is.a communist country,they probably didnt have any say in the fact that a wall will be built or not.america is a bit different

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>>720269892
you're cute

>>720269094
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

>>720269540
Dude it worked for the Chinese. They STILL have their wall

>>720275754
We have our new pipeline. Fuck their oil

>>720269439
>obama's epa and un

found the retard. You understand the EPA and UN existed before Obama was in the white house right?

>>720269338
Where the fuck do you live that your roads aren't properly paved?

>>720271445
Trump said the taxpayers will pay for it and will be reimbursed by mexico at a later time, aka, the taxpayers are going to pay for it.

>>720273117
This, they won't try and cross as often if they knew they would be shot into groundbeef

>>720269094
i thought the wall was just a metaphor...

>>720276381
Lol, you think Trump knows what a metaphor is?

>>720275963
No they won't. Lol.

I can do this forever, kid.

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It doesn't make any sense to build a wall through the middle of our territory.

Pic Related.

>>720276323
...they already face that risk.
ITT faggots who think we don't currently have manned checkpoints on the Mexican border

>>720276205
And how long do you think that's gonna last us? Do you even realize how much oil America consumes daily? It's not just their oil, but there are numerous of other products we use on a daily basis from Mexico. We can't just cut out our third largest trading partner and brush it off. It simply doesn't work like that.

>>720269338
>>720269094

Honestly and only if i canbbe completely honest /b/ the exact reason I voted for Trump was to destroy the rest of America.

Ive fought in war and a bud who died was a /b/ro and I know he'd think it was funny as well.

Can we just hard reset America please?

>>720276471
Wait a goddamn minute, cocksucker. China gets Antarctica?

>>720269696
>implying everyone is a student

No one gives a fuck about your small world educated citizen problems

>>720276281
Not who you responded to but Toledo, OH has some of the worst roads you will ever drive on. RIP my suspension.

>>720276322

>trump said

trump doesnt relize that mexico isnt going to give america 1 cent for this wall.you retards need to put down your make america great again hats and actually get some knowledge of the world outside of america

>>720276432
Get used go it

>>720276471
Russia gets Africa? Why though?! I don't like this map.
>WWII aftermath all over again

>>720276548

Trump: "We can take over mexico and make it OURS!"

>>720276582
And no one gives a fuck about your useless wall. Hilarious logic you faggots use.

>>720276754
It'll be terrific.

>>720276322

and trump also said he was going to put hillary in jail,but guess what.that never happened,and neither will mexico paying for your failed immigration solution

>>720273577
Your area will be trash without the EPA. You will be polluting the air you breathe for money.

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>>720276654
Do you know how to fucking read?

>>720276548
Teslas making a shitload of cars and selling them cheaper, I would know because I see them every day. We can slowly transition to electric

>>720276754
Yeah, good luck with that Mr. Trump. Let's just waste thousands of our soldiers lives and cause mass chaos for no reason.

>>720275780
This wall was made in ancient times, to keep out the marauding Mongol hordes, via slave labor, and it served it's job, because back then, land transit was the only way of moving large armies, especially the horse-based Mongols.

Nowadays, illegal immigrants come it much more frequently via overstating their visas, after they fly in, and come in legally. In the modern world, a wall does jack besides serving as a psychological weapon, or tool. To wall supporters, it makes them feel safe- people can see a wall, but they can't see restriction bills. To the immigrants, the wall is an imposing border, representative of the threats and dangers of illegal transit. The only benefit the wall could possibly have on illegal immigrants is to make some reconsider, out of fear. Emphasis on some- ultimately, a majority would be undeterred, and travel into the states regardless.

>>720269716
Hugest shitshow waste of fucking money EVER. They can't even build the wall across about 10-20% of the border, for starters. People just dig tunnels and/or they just fly and don't go home. The fact that there are this many morons in the US is just incredible.

>>720275995

Ok but why would you raise that issue to make a political point when you're not well-informed on it.

I understand that it *feels* like cops are shooting people indiscriminately and with a complete disregard for the lives of minority citizens, because everyone fakes a fuss about it on the news. But the fact is, statistics simply do not back up your feeling and gut reaction to it. It's very uncommon and is dwarfed by violent crime between ordinary citizens.

>>720276128
are you saying the chinese wall was made by communist?
you might need a class in world history son

>>720276871

have you managed to take your mouth off donald trump's cock.and relize the failure you elected,im no hillary supporter but republicans should of learned from mitt romney and nominated a decent candidate this time,to bad they didnt and are now going to suffer for it

>>720276832
>>720276871
go to bed, child

>>720274877
>mexico, brazil, russia, china
>neutral
What the hell is wrong with you? Those are some of the worst countries in the world.

>>720277030
I don't support Trump, literally if you knew how to fucking read you would realize this.
kid.
go.
to
bed.

>>720276928
You're missing the point of immigration reform. If we find them, out they go.

>>720276873
Although I do fully support electric fueled cars, taking down the big oil corporations in America isn't going to be as easy as it sounds. Transitioning to electric transportation is going to take us a verrryyy long time.

>>720276962
No man, i'm against violence in general and i'm not supporting black lives matter, but more all lives matter.

What i told other anon is that if you start shooting people on sight at the border then don't be surprised if it influence the whole nation.

>>720276471
Muévete de aqui porco imperialista, viva Fidel, muerte a la FTAA.

>>720276917

The number of illegal immigrants who fly in and overstay their visas is between 27 and 35% of the total depending on which source you use. Reducing the cost to society of having an illegal sub-minimum wage workforce present by 60% would easily pay for the initial cost of building it.

>>720277230
Ok but its what eventually needs to happen. But as of now we're still addicted to petroleum so it needs to happen gradually

>>720276917
This. Its just security theater at its finest.

>>720273619
Designing it cost 400billion already. Then each unit is like 100 something mill

>>720277308

all lives matter is just black lives matter,only with a lighter skin tone

>>720276873
>I see them every day.
if facebook was reality

I live in a sanctuary city that has so far refused to cooperate with federal efforts to arrest illegal immigrants. Does this trigger you guys? I'm rather proud of it, personally.

Serious question the us are know as shit, would any one care if they just invaded Mexico ? You know just seems like wasted land up for the taking, that's up their ally right?

>>720277376
...they call it "minimum wage" for a reason. expecting any group of people to work for "below" minimum wage is a violation of their constitutional rights. They're not "illegal" until they overstay their visas. Until they do, they're legal US citizens.

>>720277308

Sorry, not buying it. The guy you responded to was initially talking about border security, to which you raised the issue of police violence. Im criticizing your use of that paradigm in an argument when you're clearly not very well-informed on it.

>>720277485

doesnt trigger me,because its probably some anti gun liberal city full of cuck's and pansys

>>720277470
No i literally see Teslas every day on the road. Jesus are you dumb?

>>720277030
Trump supporters are absolutely justified to make fun of the left because of fucking dumb ass retards like you. Think before you say/do, Jesus Christ

>>720277575
Liberal yes. The gun laws here are pretty normal.

>>720277662
Preach, nigger

>>720277572
Whatever man, i said what i think.

>>720277485
>sanctuary city
What's that?
>refused to cooperate
In liberal land?

>>720276683
You can't even speak English, retard.

>>720277548

What? No youve missed my point. Theyre absolutely within their rights to be here before their visas expire. The problem arises when they stay longer and build a life by working undocumented jobs for below the federally mandated minimum wage. It drags down the standard of living for people and families who have to compete with those who are willing to work for less illegally.

Waste of fucking money! The amount of tunnels under the border is ridiculous...a fucking wall is supposed to stop it...get real!

>>720277424
>>720274201

>how much would it cost to research a high tech impenetrable wall

>>720270416

>>720277866
Lol ahhh shit i forgot about the tunnels lol

>>720277789
We don't arrest or deport illegal immigrants here. Our local government and law enforcement refuse to participate. And yeah it's in liberal land, guess that was pretty obvious.

>>720277485
you should be proud. because that makes them criminals, and means you share their mindset. i dont get mad because people like you are being taken less and less seriously in my city.

>>720277662
Totally justified to make fun of a whole group because one idiot said something dumb?

Nice to see ~500 billion dollars of tax payer money being used for a wall that won't even be finished till Trump is long gone from office. Which kind of defeats the purpose, since presumably the problem of illegal immigration is a huge and immediate issue.

inb4 Mexico will pay. Mexico doesn't have remotely enough money to pay for it. U.S. funding of Mexico is at a whopping 24 billion. And defunding Mexico will only put them in a worse economic position, thereby increasing the rate of emigration from Mexico to, you guessed it, the U.S.

Yeah, the wall really is stupid.

>>720276648
Dude, Tulsa OK is shit. For that matter all of OK.

>>720277849
if someones desperate enough to work for below minimum wage, it forces you to ask what conditions they're fleeing from. and if they're willing to break the law in order to stay, you should be asking yourself how to help them instead of how to deport them back to the situation that made them come here in the first place.

Sending them back will just make them return later on, illegally. It literally solves nothing.

>>720277572

Then fuck you. If you're willing to engage in intellectual discourse and feign conviction about a subject upon which you aren't truly informed, then you're stupid at best and willfully ignorant and spreading fake news at worst.

That isn't how being right works.

>>720278019
I just believe in human equality, friendo.

>>720278009
Is it like..on paper? Like you guys have legislation that flat out says, "nah man, I'm not gonna do that"? Is that even legal? Can states do that?