Daily reminder that people only hate Donald Trump because he's a regular person. In terms of political correctness, he's a relic; a product of a bygone era.
In today's world, we have the entire accumulation of knowledge at our fingertips, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Think about that. If you include dial-up internet, we've had just under 20 years to go from making snap judgements based on limited information, to seemingly having no excuse not to be fully and completely informed on every issue and every major decision we make. During this time period, we as a society have gone from the former being acceptable amongst our leaders, to the latter being absolutely compulsory amongst each and every one of us. We are now required to research and display an understanding of both sides of every issue that we face in the decision-making process. One might think this would facilitate a more fair and balanced political process, less encumbered by partisanship, but that has not turned out to be the case.
In reality, our leaders, senators, congressmen, and yes, our president simply do not have the time and resources to research in full depth the socioeconomic and political circumstances of every conclusion they must reach. Even with a full staff of aids and advisors, or in the case of the president, an entire cabinet of experts in their given fields, there are simply not enough hours in the day. So what we are left with is an accountability and morality gap; a group of people who are expected by their respective voter contingents to be credible experts in every single decision they make, but who simply do not have enough hours in a day to fulfill that expectation.
That is what Donald Trump, and all other politicians in the American system are. Ordinary people, held by the public to an impossible standard.
>>720164184 I don't hate him, but I didn't vote for him because his economic policies will end up harming the lower middle class, not saving it. Even with the most optimistic estimates we have to work with, there will be a slight increase in the net amount of manufacturing jobs in the US, but GDP will not go through a sustained period of growth and the cost of products both foreign and domestic will only increase. This taken into account with his fiscal policy (which increases federal expenditure, and therefore the size of government) will contribute more to the deficit than his Democrat opponent would have, and we will be closer to the threat of hyperinflation. Also, we can only guarantee the security of these manufacturing jobs so long as holding onto these laborers is cheaper than automation, which is being improved and more integrated every quarter.
>>720165230 Here's a handy little chart to go along with what I'm saying. Like I said, even with the most optimistic estimates of GDP growth taken into account, the end result is basically "Wow, it's fucking nothing!"
But you are wrong to hate all politicians if the system in which they operate is fundamentally flawed. Don't hate someone who is held to an impossible and unrealistic standard; hate the standard.
And as to your photo, if I hear one more person bitch about a frivolous lawsuit levied against this guy I'm going to shit a brick. Lawsuits like this one are constantly raised against people with money and influence, because they are a lucrative target to go after in arbitration and litigation. If there was even a realistic suggestion that Trump raped a 13 year old girl, the girl's family would have pressed charges and he would have been indicted. But inconveniently, knowing pressing false charges is a felony, and prison time for Trump wasn't the outcome they wanted for Trump or for themselves. It was money. A completely transparent cash grab. Now get the fuck out.
A choice that involves 250k a year in salary, unlimited expensed travel and benefits would be a pretty enticing one for any reasonable person. Also, stop with the name-calling. It doesn't strengthen your position.
>>720164184 Good points. I do expect a crash in the occidental economies and a lost decade starting around 2020. Complexity of things can not be managed by political leaders anymore. Expect AI to become a necessity by 2030.
>>720164184 He does not make decisions on every subject.
You use trusted advisors for any items you can hand off, this is what good managers do everyday.
My disgust with Trump comes from his statement that he only hires people dumber than him. Pointing to that same anti intellectual crap the religious right clIngs to because rational discussion is the devil
His insecurity is and will causing idiotic problems Re alternate facts
But really the less he gets done the better, that is generally the four every elected official though
>>720164184 Shit OP, What alt-reality do you get your facts from?. It seems like you are normalizing one of the most deranged persons that has ever been president in the USA. Who is paying you to Shill this B.S.? Next you will be saying it is quite normal for the USA to start WW3 or invade Poland along with the Russians.
You call wanting to ensure financial security for your family greed? Seriously, 250k a year is a pretty good amount of money, but it's not obscene. It barely breaks the 3rd highest tax bracket if you're married and filing jointly. Just like any other labor market, supply and demand dictate that it is worth 250k/yr+benefits; whatever the position entails, that salary is worth a lot to a lot of people; hence why we have to have elections to decide who gets it. If the very position itself entails attempting to meet an impossible standard, it means the government is systemically flawed and we should focus on remedying that rather than attacking its individual constituents, Republican or Democrat.
And this discussion has nothing to do with my feelings. You couldn't upset me if you tried; it's a waste of effort for you to call me names when we're engaging in intellectual discourse.
>>720167338 Your special boy friend lies with almost every thing he says. I would have to believe You enjoy living in Bazaro world where the only truth is what your king tells you. You are truly whacked in the head..
>>720167770 >>Regular people are not thin-skinned, narcissistic, self-deluded, liars who would would lie to protect their own egos. Um, have you met...people? They're a bit shit, mate. That's why it's usually a good idea to be led by the best among us, not just the topmost-floating turd.
>>720164184 >We have the accumulation of knowledge at our fingertips. Think about that.
I have. And idiot kids still think socialism and/or communism is a GOOD thing.
>The Temple chose Guyana, in part, because of its own socialist politics, which were moving further to the left during the selection process. Former Temple member Tim Carter stated that the reasons for choosing Guyana were the Temple's view of a perceived dominance of racism and multinational corporations in the U.S. government. Carter said the Temple concluded that Guyana, an English-speaking socialist country with a predominantly indigenous population and with a government including prominent black leaders, would afford black members of the Temple a peaceful place to live. Later, Guyanese Prime Minister Forbes Burnham stated that Jones may have "wanted to use cooperatives as the basis for the establishment of socialism, and maybe his idea of setting up a commune meshed with that." Jones also thought that Guyana was small, poor, and independent enough for him to easily obtain influence and official protection.
>Religion bad! Corporations Greedy! Everyone's racist (or homophobic or islamophobic)!
Sound familiar? Think about that. History about to repeat itself and the brainwashed liberal-college kids don't even see it coming. Sad.
>>720169116 Sorry I miss understood for a sec. But I was responding to the last statement within that post. Ya know where someone said >Then how is it that other politicians don't seem to behave like butthurt children the way Trump does?
>>720169269 I don't get my facts from insane messages boards floating with words repeated by trumpbots which autopost the same lies lies over and over with the hope that people will they think they are true, if that is what you mean. Trumps Sheeple wow!
Well if you can't come up with a response, I guess I might as well rub it in your face.
I fucking smoked you, motherfucker. Your hare-brained neo-liberal ideology based in feelings and media-driven propaganda is no match for 225 years of free market capitalism and rhetoric based on statistical facts. Next time you get angry about whatever injustices you perceive through your warped, contorted perspective on how life works, how about you at least go out and attempt to do something effective and measurable to combat it, rather than hurl half-assed insults around impotently.
Until then, keep quiet while the adults are talking.
>>720169661 Nope, and never said that I do. Although it wouldn't suprise me if it turned out to be true since he was selling out arenas while she was barely filling high school gyms. Oh and ultimately it doesn't matter what the popular vote said since the states choose.
>>720167702 You keep saying that they're held to an impossible standard when they're job is to literally make decisions that affect our lives. If they're making a decision I want that decision to be THUROUGHLY thought out before a bad decision is made. You're argument is fundamentally flawed as well as your brain...
It's becoming more and more obvious that you just aren't intellectually up to par with me, and it's a waste of time arguing with you. What I'm asserting is that they face two many of these decisions on a daily basis to be sufficiently informed on all of them, even with a staff to aid them. It's an impossible paradigm to fulfill.
>>720171019 It is perfectly reasonable and extremely common for a politician to have a personal opinion but have a policy position that differs. People who take issue with her comment don't understand politics or government.
Yeah, and another job of an effective politician is to conceal these discrepancies from the general public, not openly display that you've been exposed to the political system for so long that you're two-faced and corrupt by nature and completely comfortable with this fact.
>>720171605 If he had taken the money he was loaned all those years ago and invested in a interest bearing account he would be soooooo much more wealth than he is now. So, good businessman? I don't think so.
I type as fast as I think, which is fucking fast. I make typos, just like everyone else.
If that is really all you have to counter my points, you need to sit right where you are and continuously re-read >>720170197 until you either abandon whatever misplaced faith you have in your ability maintain a cogent intellectual discussion, or starve to death without reproducing, whichever happens first.
>>720171241 2 things. I'm not the same guy from before. There's also a couple grammar problems in your sentence so I'm pretty fuckin sure you're not as "intillectually up to par" as you think you are. What you're asserting is that there's not enough people to help them understand every issue? Then get more people. It's not impossible to fulfill since it's kind of a necessity to have as much information as possible when making a decision. Just because you can't keep up with everything doesn't mean that others can't. Get off your high horse you fuckin retard. Just because you have autism that doesn't make you automatically intelligent
>>720171500 God you're a fucking idiot. You think I don't know that? Any responsible aND honest politician would be that way. But she practically said "I tell my wallstreet donors one thing and you another." Do you think she was just getting counseling and having honest conversation with the big bankers?
What really gets me is people saying Trump being a billionaire makes it LESS impressive that he won the presidency... You cynical fucks, this guy is a Chuck Norris-figure. He won at life, and THEN ran for President, and WON that too! He's not immune to criticism by any means, but his track record isn't the trainwreck that the popular narrative makes it out to be, and while he might be a stingy impersonal fuck, he didn't sell his soul, and he's not "literally Hitler". Pick out the policies you disagree with and form a practical argument. No one can hate on you for that, just stop assuming you're right all the time on a grey-area issue.
I'm not even a MAGA-douche either. I didn't give two shits about Donny T. at the start of this whole election mess, it's seeing the irrational vitriol and hatred that people hold for him that inspired me to look into some of the claims and realize the leaps of judgement people were making to vilify everything he says or does. And yes, many moron conservatives will make those same leaps to justify his statements as good (gullibility knows no side in politics), but those conservative morons aren't the ones controlling media and entertainment, they aren't the swaths of entitlement flooding college campuses, and they aren't every young person i see in person and on facebook, making the casual "Hey, Trump, racist idiot, right guys? huh-huh."
Interest rates on CD's and savings bonds were only higher than Trump's own rate of return for a short period during the late 1970's. No one could possibly have predicted the enormous growth of the American financial system that occurred from 1975 onward. Those who maintained their stakes in the stock market through the 4 major collapses that have occurred were really fucking stupid and got lucky in the end.
The fact is, and you can't fucking argue with this so don't try, Trump took roughly 200 million and turned it into 4.5 billion. He increase his personal fortune 22-fold. That makes him a competent businessman.
>>720172453 >I don't watch "hur durr Drumpf news" I just listen to what my favorite pop singer tells me to think and pretend to be informed and/or looking at things objectively.
The position of 85% of 20-something liberals in America. For fuck's sake half the people at the "women's march" can't even verbalize WHY they're marching, they just want to feel like they're "oppressed" or "fighting the power" or some dumb shit.
After today he has confirmed to the American people that he's only interested in money, regardless of the impacts. Giving DAPL the XL Pipeline certifies him as Stooopid and very unAmerican. Fuck Trump. I was willing to give him a chance but he hlew it.
>>720172618 >What you're asserting is that there's not enough people to help them understand every issue? Then get more people. It's not impossible to fulfill since it's kind of a necessity to have as much information as possible when making a decision So it seems you don't know how to read either. I attacked you and you're argument
>>720172286 Asshole got in on reality teevee. People with no education see his millions as something to envy and look up to him when in fact they should be looking down on an asshole that rips off middle class workers. He shows he has no soul by how he uses people and the system to make gains for himself. Talks racist memes and gets alt-right kkk on his side.
All that would accomplish is making the mess even bigger. Contributing even further to the bureaucracy and favor-based partisanship that makes our government slower moving and more ineffective. Not mention having to pay and make physical room for thousands more employees who don't get fired, just transferred to a different department, when they fuck up.
>>720172432 OH KAY? You made my day with that. Old people decay and their brains kinda go to hell after watching reality TEEVEE for years and stop learning new things or reading books. It is just a fact of life.
I don't understand the problem with trumps picks. Go die, you're probably just a filthy fucking faggot who sees your dreams of being able to legally sodomize a 7 year old boy with your diseased chode slipping through your greasy fat fingers.
trump is for himself just like every greedy white man wants more and more. trump used the uneducated to sneak his whore white and retarded offspring into the white house. trump is currently opening the pipeline through Dakota to get the oil running. You idiot inbred trump supporting little dick having morons have mad America shit again just like the last Republican that was in the president seat. Deny it all you want you're just a ignorant little dick.
>>720173291 Then we should fire the fuck ups. Clean house first and then replace with actual competent workers. This is our government, not some bullshit warehouse where (if things are fucking up there) you say "eh whatever, it'll get fixed eventually". It isn't getting fixed unless we work to change it. At no point is an uncaring attitude ok when it comes to this
>>720164184 And yet 50 million Americans are more qualified to review the information and make a better decision than he is. Your argument amounts to endorsing a retard for president and you are incredibly obtuse about it
>>720173651 Sorry, I misspelled a few words i'm getting my dick sucked by this fucking smoking white girl right now lol and i'm a person of color. She didn't vote trump because she said trump supporters have small dicks, she wasn't able to put both hands on a dick while stroking it and sucking it at the same time until she meet me a non trump supporter =D
>>720165717 Being a politician is a choice one must make themselves. They are put to high standards because their jobs affect other people (100's to millions). You are correct in saying that people are not informed enough to make a good decision on who should make the laws that they must follow. However, "lowering the standard" is not the solution.
This issue is also much bigger than you make it to be. Our decisions for president to choose from were not great. Hell they were mostly complete shit.
The future is AI. I, for one, welcome our computer overlords.
>>720172986 >Trump revives ban on foreign aid to groups that give abortion conceding >Still sucks Israel's dick and gives them handouts even though they have one of the most liberal abortion laws in the world Lol
>>720173573 He has a track record for his business where he refuses to make the final payment which amounts to around 25% of the total contract with his contractors. Their option is to take him to court to get the final payment but it takes millions in lawyer fees to fight him so they end up just getting ripped off.
>>720173980 I don't listen to that greasy paranoid fuck. I listen/read from multiple sources and from my own opinion. I also don't let "expert panelists" try to tell me what someone actually meant when a public figure says something as simple as "My favorite food is pizza"
That is the thing that really infuriates me. Liberals create a monopoly on intellectual discourse by dictating that certain subjects are off-limits using feelings and being offended as collateral.
Example: Liberals and minority activists march and protest the killings of black men by primarily white police forces. Many of these cases are unjustified and a criminal over-exertion of force on behalf of the cops and should be dealt with accordingly. But then they try to point to "systemic bias and racism" as the root of this problem, instead of acknowledging (as other groups seem to have no problem doing) that cops are an absolute authority in all jurisdictional matters. They view arrests and police interactions as venues for protesting perceived violations of their civil rights, when in reality police are there to do only two things: curtail criminal behavior, and eliminate perceived threats by any means necessary. You don't challenge a cop in the street. Ever. No fucking exceptions. Minority groups, particularly blacks don't seem to get this.
Then arises the statistical fact that these crimes, perpetrated by white police on black people, constitute an absolutely miniscule proportion of violent crimes in the United States. Who are the VAST majority of violent crimes committed by? Black people. They comprise 13% of the US population, yet are responsible for 55% of violent crime. 94% of all crimes committed against black people are by other black people. But bring this up in intellectual discourse with someone who holds a liberal viewpoint, and you will immediately be branded a racist and bigot. Do it around black people, and there's a good chance you'll get punched in the face like that Richard Spencer guy (asshole btw, but we don't suppress free thought and speech with violence, that's some medieval bullshit).
Liberal culture of forced tolerance and suppression of intellectual discourse under the guise of political correctness has to stop.
False equivalence. Suppressing the open discussion of an important issue cannot be compared with the lobbing of pejoratives like "cuck".
Liberals, by nature, view problems within the black and other minority communities as driven by systemic inequity and the inability to break cycles of legal injustice and lack of education. The world is not a fair and balanced place; some people are born with more, some with less, and all of the lobbying and protesting in the world is not going to alter that fundamental fact about humanity.
Whatever inequity and hardship you are born into, it is your responsibility and yours alone to conduct yourself proactively in improving those circumstances if you are unhappy with them. If the government can do a small part in lending a helping hand, great, but for those who have worked hard and built careers, family units, and communities conducive to stability and success of future generations, it is completely unfair to take money out of their pockets to attempt to put a bandaid on broken communities with government-funded welfare, food stamps, and unemployment. In the end we are only responsible for ourselves and our loved ones, and the idea that we are not is a lie perpetrated by the federal government in order to increase its funding, scope, and depth.
>>720175898 Blacks kill blacks, cops kill blacks. If I were black i would be really pissed off at every one killing me. There I read and RE:ed Plus I am really sick of street signs, store fronts, grass and palm trees.
>be trump >at moscow ritz carlton >presidential suite >melania is in manhattan >bored >try to fap >can't get it up >call room service >hire three dominatrix prostitutes >they make you lay on the bed >fully clothed >they're drinking champagne >ridiculing how badly your suit fits >they get up on the bed >walking on the bed >straddling your body >stepping on your crotch >dick twitches >they're each on their second bottle >tell them obama slept in this bed last week >they talk about how much they hate him >dick twitches again >they want to defile the bed so it will be destroyed >urine starts to flow >it's habbening!!! >they're pissing all over you >it's soaking through your suit >so warm >stream hits your face >dick is titanium >they notice your tiny bulge and mock it >one of them has to shit >squats over your lap and lets loose >it's runny but there are big chunks >smells fucking horrible >you grab a chunk and taste it >dick is diamonds >beg them to let you fap >they make you use the shit as lube >furiously rubbing micropenis >they take turns pissing in your face >unintelligible moans emanate from your mouth >OOOOAAAAHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHHH >they're laughing at you >OOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAH >HAOOOOOHAOOOOOOHAAAHGHHH >they laugh even harder >OOOOB-BAAHM-MMMAAAAAAH!!!!! >cum buckets
>>720164184 I've hated Dumold Dump since he started clogging up my tv with his "you're fired" bullshit.
Fuck that self-important, thin-skinned orange douche bag. He reversed all his political views just to appeal to the stupidest group of americans knowing that no one else could be tricked to vote for him. We will all be worse off when his short term comes to an end.
>>720177120 No, liberals understand by nature for some to be rich, some have to be poor, but the way to care for the poor is the difference between liberals and conservatives. The fact of if you try hard enough you can be whatever you want, is bullshit. There would never be anyone working a shitty job if just working hard is the only way to be successful.
I could argue the exact same thing for you, until we're spiraling down an infinite regress in an argument about whose well-poisoning is doing the most to poison the well.
When I cite something from my conservative viewpoint that is considered controversial, you had better believe I will always back it with statistics and facts. If I was shouting baseless rhetoric about to hierarchy of races, then you can call me a racist. But statistics are not rude. Facts are not racist, or bigoted, or inflammatory. They're just facts.
But apparently from their words and actions, the right (exemplified by Trump and the gang) hates intellectuals, hates science, hates the arts, and uses "political correctness" to mean that they can't spew vile misinformed shit whenever they want.
You're pointing directly to the crux of my argument.
Economics is not a zero-sum game; that is, you don't have to disadvantage someone else to gain something for yourself 100% of the time, but you do most of the time. For all of our achievements, our towering skyscrapers and the techonological innovations that dwarf them, we are still animals who seek comfort and security, competing for limited resources.
That is the inexorable nature of the world we live in, and the idea that the federal government (which is horribly ineffective and inefficient at doing virtually anything other than killing people) can intercede and fundamentally alter this fact is nonsense. If a billionaire has more money than they could spend in several lifetimes, it is his moral and ethical responsibility to distribute a significant portion of it charitably, but the government should have absolutely no say in how, and certainly no right to redistribute it to people who have done absolutely nothing to deserve it other than vote D.
>>720178324 >it is his moral and ethical responsibility Please, don't even start about rich and morals, why would we make ponzi scheme illegal? Why is insider trading illegal? you cannot trust the super greedy to follow moral compasses. Look alone at what Trump used his foundation for.
>>720164184 :/ Daily reminder that Donald J. Trump is the man who; Called Mexicans rapists Claimed the president was born in Kenya Proposed banning an entire religion from entering the US MOCKED a disabled reporter Has 0 political experience Said John McCain wasn't a war hero because he was captured Attacked the parents of a fallen soldier Bragged about committing sexual assault Was accused by 12 women of committing sexual assault Said some of those women weren't attractive enough to assault Said more countries should get NUKES Said he would force the military to commit war crimes Said a judge was biased because his parents were Mexicans Said women should be punished for having abortions Incited violence at his rallies Called global warming a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese Called for his opponent to be jailed Declared bankruptcy 6 times Bragged about not paying income taxes Stiffed his contractors and employees Lost a billion dollars in one year Scammed customers into a fake university Bought a 6 foot tall painting of himself with money from his fake foundation Has a trial for fraud coming up this month Insulted his opponents looks Insulted his opponents wife's looks Said he would date his own daughter AND BRAGGED about grabbing women by the pussy....
That is the root of my belief that Trump is simply a false-flag candidate for the left, designed to engender public disdain for all conservatives, and not just his special brand of backward-thinking, anti-intellectual assbags.
He grew up in New York City, a place where the wealthy segments of society are populated by an improportional number of people who vote democrat. Most of his friends probably vote D. He worked and made a name for himself professionally in that same environment, dealing hand in hand with other businessmen who support and fund the campaigns of liberal politicians in that state. He has made a lot of money for himself for sure, but he has done it largely through the avenue of fame and self-promotion that is more reminiscent of Hollywood or the entertainment industry. Shit, in the last 10 years he's probably been working more with TV network executives than he has on his own business ventures. I mean, for fuck's sake, he's even quoted as saying "if I ever ran for president, I'd do it as a republican. Their voter base is so dumb, they'll believe anything."
And now all of the sudden, he's a died in the wool Republican? I call bullshit. He's a clown with liberal underpinnings, hung up from the rafters by the Democratic party to undermine the credibility of hard-working, family-oriented, reasoned conservatives everywhere. His presidency will spell the end of the Republican party as we know it.
>>720178324 Thanks, last thing on earth we would want to do is let workers get enough money to live on. We likes em poors to stay poor and thems rich ens to give all they got honestly to their sweet kids. Some day I might make enough money to buy a car sos I don't have to spend all my lunch money on the bus. We loves the 1st world country going 3rd so ones using us will not have to suffer.
More false equivalence. Now you're equating the desire to withhold charitable contributions with the white collar equivalents to grand theft and larceny. You're also painting all rich people as super greedy, which is a ridiculous sweeping statement to make. Just because someone has achieved financial success does not make them greedy; savvy, yes, and maybe opportunistic, but not greedy by definition.
Whether or not you can trust a "greedy" person to follow their (read: your) moral compass is not the issue here. That money is theirs, and they spent their life earning it, building the infrastructure that allowed them the wealth and security it affords them, and it's not one's place in the world to say you HAVE to give it back to people who haven't earned it. Certainly not the federal government's.
>>720179796 >You're also painting all rich people as super greedy Just like you paint all poor people as just lazy and unable to make it >That money is theirs, and they spent their life earning it So taxing them on their yearly income is just taxing them on their whole life now?
I think people hate Trump because he is a typical Fox News Republican who built a "brand" on a speaking tour as a antiestablishment rabble rouser, but now that he is POTUS, he basically is following every policy dreamed up by Koch, Fox News, and standard Republican libertarian economics bullshit. Its the same bait and switch they always do. "I'm a rebel and I care and I have answers, my answers are to dismantle all regulation and make sure Billionaires can make more millions and it will trickle down like gold across Fox viewers faces! Muhahah! They bought it, suck on that Trump steak beyotches! What other assets can we sell off and nationalize? Highways? National Parks? Can we contract out Intelligence Surveillance? Net Neutrality? What else does this country have that we can sell off? Lets starve the beast and run up the deficit! CultureWar Bitches!"
>>720178324 I don't see skyscrapers as an "achievement". They're simply a way for scumbag landlords to pack more paying tenants into a given footprint. The thing about your 'redistribution' argument is that even in days of yore the holder of a keep was responsible for keeping the peasants fed and watered (the result of not doing so was revolt).
Never once, in any of my posts, did I paint poor people as universally lazy, and I'd like you to acknowledge that fact before we continue with this discussion. In fact, I won't be replying to any post that does not.
As for poor people being unable to make it, I mean, it sort of follows that if you are poor, then you have been unable to make it. It's almost a tautology, and I don't see how you could argue against it.
And yes, if you tax someone's yearly income, every year, then yes you are effectively taxing them on their life's earnings. Not only that, you are taxing that money again, no matter what happens to it. If they reinvest it in their business, whatever they buy is subject to sales tax. If they receive realized earnings from stocks and financial instruments, they are taxed 15-20% on their capital gains, depending on who's in office. If they earn interest from a CD or savings bond, that interest is taxed as well. About the only way to not get taxed on it is to stick it in a fucking shoebox.
So yes, quite literally, they are being taxed on it for their entire lives.
>>720180336 I agree with you. Trump himself said his inauguration had the highest turn out of all time and that he won the majority of the popular votes. He is the highest authority on anything Trump related. He is God.
>>720177699 >>>720173581 >>I don't understand the problem with trumps picks. >>I don't understand >if you support trump this doesn't surprise me.
Non-Trump supporter here. While I wish Trump made different picks, I don't really understand the "problem" with them either. He won the election, and he nominated and appointed people who support what he or his party said they'd do. While I support EPA regs, public schools, subsidized health care, readily available abortions, legal pot, a moratorium nuclear warheads, and so on, a near-majority of voters do not, and with the 3 branches of gov't under GOP control, it seems fair enough that they'll act against the policies I'd prefer.
The owner of any given entity or corporation is still responsible for keeping his employees fed and watered.
Slavery and indentured servitude do not exist in this country. Every employer is required to pay employees for their contributions, and federal regulations dictate quality of workplace conditions. You might argue that the minimum wage is low, and I would wholeheartedly agree with you, but that's exactly what it is: a bare minimum. It is not meant to feed and clothe an independent individual, but to provide supplemental income to those who are in school or actively training for advancement. Working in a fast food restaurant or as a landscaper are not meant to be careers; the wage paid is for a minimum skill set and effort that requires little experience or training. If you choose to do the minimum in life, expect to get compensated accordingly.
And as to the skyscraper comment, it was merely an analogy, a symbol of human progress from when we were living in say, mud huts. They are not something to be awed or taken for granted; merely a product of capitalist markets in effect. If a greater number of people want to live within a certain land mass that is already full, the only way to build is up.
>>720181261 It is not fair when a government violates ethics by being a bully about it. It is not fair that a government by the people, for the people is anything but that and gives to the corps and 1 percent advantages that hurt the rest of us. and when I say us I mean the US. We are being usurped and I am against just that.
>>720164737 I could literally sue you for sexually harassing my dog tomorrow and make the same exact picture about you. There is almost no bar (minus filing fees) to filing a lawsuit. Of course, a court can throw it out if it later finds that the lawsuit is not founded but until then "a recent lawsuit accuses anon of fucking my dog" can be run in every morally debunked media outlet.
If that lawsuit is still around a year later, then we can talk.
>>720170580 Christ, you are literally repeating what OP said and still missing the point. OP's point is that the standard that politicians are held to is objectively impossible. Your response to this point is that you subjectively believe that holding politicians to a high standard is desirable. However, that doesn't refute OP's claim that the standard itself is objectively impossible. You are literally not doing anything except shouting that OP is wrong because you feel otherwise.
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