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Ask a an asexual genderfluid trans-child anything.

Basically, in the same way trans-men want male bodies and trans-women want female bodies, I want a prepubertal body. I identify as asexual with no fixed gender. I despise the pubertal form because it creates the differences between us. I wish to remain 10 years old and thus gender-ambiguous forever.

I hope that there is one day surgery that may enable me to return to my prepubertal form. It's something that I've thought of since I was young. I was even looking into ways to halt puberty (e.g. via hormone blockers) when I was 12 for example.

I identify as transhumanist, asexual, and genderfluid/postgenderist. I am currently studying for a computer science/biochemistry to make my dreams a reality one day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postgenderism

Ask me anything.
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>>719610008
Just shave your pubes
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>>719610008
fuck off
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I found the special snowflake
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>>719610214
Sadly this is not enough. I will only be happy until I eliminate all secondary sexual characteristics.

>>719610293
Considering the accomplishments that the transgender community has made in the last few years as well as the emerge of non-binary movements, I am optimistic.
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when you discover how to make custom bodies, can I have a fully hermaphroditic one? all my life people have been telling me to go fuck myself and I've never been able to really do it.

in all seriousness though, OP if you are not a troll, I wish you the best. and if you are a troll, I wish you the best anyway. please accept this bump and complimentary hamster.
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I was about to say that what you're talking about? That's not transhumanism. Surely you couldn't find a more suitable image for your thread?
Not ragging on your post, nor do I really care about it, but I have an interest in transhumanism, and I failed to just scroll past and ignore it. Guess I'm easily baited.
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>>719610008
How fucking dare you relate trans humanism to such a fucking garbage view.
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>>719611027
Me too I guess, guess we rub dicks now?
>>719611032
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Nice b8 m8
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>>719610008
You're just describing aliens. Being as they're superior I'd say we're headed that way as well but it's going to take awhile. First we must eliminate the retarded, faith-based belief systems.
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>>719610008
>rekt
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>>719611074
Only augmented dicks, though.
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>>719611256
Well yeah, i'll use the technology of the penis pump to transcend the physical limitations of my cock shrinking the closer it gets to another one.
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>>719610008
How does it feel not to be real?
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>>719611094
How do you know they're describing aliens?
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>>719611361
Haha, good enough then.
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>>719611543
I am one, Glarba glarb glarb?
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>>719611592
Prove it.
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>>719610918
If transhumanism turns out to be correct, then there wouldn't even be any need to retain primary sexual characteristics. A male penis might become as unnecessary as a male nipple.
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>>719611642
B̷̛̘̖͖͖͓̟̮͓̖̪̰̙̥̣̭͎͝ͅĺ̷͕̝̤͖̮͔̦͟á̶̷̧̪̹̬͎̘͖̫̹̹̱̩ṟ̶͔̺̤̝̳̝̲̕k̛҉̩̤̟͙̖̳̺̯̘̝͍̞̜̱̩͔ͅa҉͓̰͔̘̥̝̖͟ ̮̪̖͘b̺̫͚͖͚̦̬̘̕͘ḽ̸̢̞̲̮͡a͏̗͖̙̩͕̣̤͖̭͔̩ŗ̸̱̹̗͙͖̭̲̱̫̭̰̹͍̹͡g̶̛̗̗̲̻͉̻͙ ̧̧̧҉̝̥̻̜b̴̨̛̞̟̗͖̻̲̺̬͟l͏̸̢̨̝͈̜ạ̶̧͙͔̩̟̦̝̹͕͙̟͖͎̗̹̤̖̘́͟r͓̙̘̮̗͖̼̳̦̪̩̪̀͜͞ͅg̵̖̯̻̰̤͇̥͓̙̪̲̰͞ͅ?̶̶̪̥̟͎͉͎̘͕͇̺̥̗͘͞ͅ!̨̨̛̛̖̮̱̙̯̗̺̹ͅ
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>>719611684
A detachable and upgradable luxury, I want the extra sensitive model. My sperm can be stored until I need it, no need for a critical crotch weakness.
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>>719611716
My keyboards in Hoopdoopian AND english
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>>719610008
>asexual genderfluid
kek
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Kill yourself

Trans people should all be killed
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>>719611642
Prove you digest inside of your body.
>Always figured that was a lie
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>>719610008
You're going to die alone in your 30s if you're lucky and your genes will not be passed on and you won't be remembered for doing anything productive.

Evolution:1
You:0
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>>719610008
With designer babys on the rise. its gonna be more like " they told me i could be anything, so I became ONLY what my parents wants."
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>>719611944
True, a trans humanist will just come back with better upgrades. Better take them out while it's possible.
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>>719611774
>stored until I need it
Don't breed. Ever.
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>>719610008
could you kill yourself?
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>>719612061
You're pretty fucking dumb if you don't think having balls is a huge weakness for a biped.
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>>719610918
>>719611027
Postgenderism is a subset of transhumanism. In fact, Wikipedia considers it to be under the transhumanist banner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postgenderism

"The Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies (IEET) recently posted a white paper written by two of its members: George Dvorsky, and James Hughes . The paper is titled Postgenderism: Beyond the Gender Binary. The title alone speaks volumes, but the details paint a picture that defies belief. From the very first sentence onward this paper doesn't cease to rattle the very foundations of human life as we know it. Here is a quote from the abstract:

Gender is an arbitrary and unnecessary limitation on human potential... Postgenderists contend that dyadic gender roles and sexual dimorphisms are generally to the detriment of individuals and society. Assisted reproduction will make it possible for individuals of any sex to reproduce in any combinations they choose, with or without "mothers" and "fathers," and artificial wombs will make biological wombs unnecessary for reproduction."

The seperation of humanity into male and female is deemed a terrible burden. The postgenderist goal is to use science to Transcend the two sexes and create a new posthuman gender Singularity. By overcoming natural human genetics, a beautiful new world can be created."
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>>719613202
>>719610918 should be >>719611032
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>>719613202
I've been following my dreams of becoming semi-immortal for some time now, which has lead me to the movement that is Transhumanism. To be completely honest, I've never really thought about gender roles post-switch to a mechanical body. I mean, what would be the point in assigning a gender anyway? You make a fair point. I still would like to retain my masculinity or at least an aspect of it, because it would help me remember who I was or am. When you really get down to it, and can imagine the future, I see sprawling white cities with spires as tall as the clouds. A "race" of machinery with the perfect body using the golden ratio, all white, gleaming from some undiscovered alloy. I still think that people would want a woman or man's body to reside in. The very essence of gender would still be around, but only for show instead of use.

Thoughts?

Also, what would be the best course of action in determining what sciences are needed most for efficiency in making this a reality?

I encourage you to look up "2045 Initiative".

Thanks. A fellow transhumanist.
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Tits or Gtfo
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>>719610676
Mankind has been accomplishing shit for thousands of years, we don't need this mental illness shit to be acceptable. Kys
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>>719610008
>I identify as

Who the hell cares? Your damned 'identify as' doesn't mean shit in the real world. Nobody will have to bow down for your insanity. 'Identify as'??? Moah-ha-ha-ha-ha!
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>>719614157
>>War
>>Famine
>>Disease
>>Unhappy people everywhere
>>threat of nuclear war

Tell me again faggot, has mankind really done.

No. You kill yourself.
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>>719614261
There will always be war, can't cure famine or disease when we waste or resources on bullshit. Nuclear war = there will always be war. Go look up any article about any sciences, any medical breakthrough, any miracle invention you literal waste of space. Google literally does the work for you.
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>>719614157
Not OP but hear me out.

You are right that mankind has been achieving great things throughout the history of time, however, imagine if you would, that all of Earth's genius's were still alive. The people that shook the world died. That's it. Everything that they've learned, created, managed, proved, and broke the frontier of, are gone. Their life's work remains, but what if they were still working on it? What then? Imagine how far we'd be if we still had those people. Imagine if Einstein was still alive. Imagine if we could prevent the death of those genius's that are still ticking, an example would be Stephen Hawking. He probably won't make it for another twenty years, but it would be incredible to have him serve humanity for a longer period of time.

I strongly believe that Humanity is limited by how smart people can get within a certain amount of time. Imagine if that time were extended by a grand margin.

We need Transhumanism. We need mechanical bodies to further the progress that Humanity strives towards. We need to live longer so that we may serve longer. To find the knowledge of the universe is the genius's goal, but they ran out of time.

Why can't we live longer? Why not through machinery?
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>>719613911
>Also, what would be the best course of action in determining what sciences are needed most for efficiency in making this a reality?

Most of the driver so far has been Moore's law. Conventional photolithography techniques are on their way out and will most likely be replaced by 2020. The idea behind the Singularity is still sound in that we know it is possible to create computers that can at least match the performance of the human brain but to reach this would necessitate a brand new paradigm to continue Moore's law or enormous improvements in software architecture.

There is a whole lot of progress happening in the fields of machine learning, as well as higher resolution brain scanning techniques, synthetic biology, and materials science. A Singularity event will probably require the convergence of these multiple and seemingly disparate fields.
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>>719610008
Will it be legal for you to fuck 12 year olds after your transformation?
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>>719614261
>>>War
>>>Famine
>>>Disease
>>>Unhappy people everywhere
the four horsemen of the apocolypse
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>>719614600
I would agree that advancements would probably come quicker with all great minds living indefinitely. Gotta be maddening though, to think you will live forever in that case
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>>719610008
The pedo dream
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>>719614608
One would think that it would be most logical for us to create the mechanical body first, then the rest later. The clock is ticking and we only have so much time to live... why not give ourselves another 200+ years of research to each of us?

I do know that one of the major obstacles is the aging of the brain. If we could sort that problem out, it would be most beneficial.

Also, my idea of extending the time of life is by interweaving the brain onto a mechanical body. I think that this would be the most sound out of all the processes as trying to decode the brain enough in order to implant it onto a machine would require to much time invested (as of right now).
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>>719614696
underrated
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>>719610008
Do you wish you had heard of Leuprorelin (a gonadothrophin releasing hormone blocker) before you hit puberty so you wouldn't have to go into computer science/biochemistry?
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>>719614765
You wouldn't have to live forever though. The threat of freak accidents still remains, only aging has been eliminated. It is true that you would be more durable being made out of machinery, but stuff life that could still happen.

If anyone ever felt the need or want to die, they could. Just pull the plug. You aren't required or forced to be immortal, only semi-immortal.
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>>719610008
>Ask a an asexual genderfluid trans-child anything.
>asexual genderfluid trans-child
Nope. Nothing you have to say is valid.
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>>719610008

You call yourself trans-, kin-, pan-, demi- or whatever this or that, you are STILL a 'he' or a 'she', but an insane schizophrenian one at that.
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This applies for OP.
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>>719615051

^
This, so much this.
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>>719614853
>>719615051
>>719615062
>>719615108

I think he/she has the right mindset, but is jumping the gun a bit too early. It will probably be the case that gender-norms won't exist after the exchanging of the biological body to a mechanical one.

They/it/she/he/ve/vee is on the right track... just all-too-eager at that.
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Also, you niggers missed my dubs.

>>719614600

For the gross neglect, you will have to face my trips instead.
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>>719615262

You need a brain-scan.
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>>719615362
Here are my trips.
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>>719615262
Okay. I identify myself as Homo Post Hominium. I am the ultimate in human evolution. Oh, wait, reality didn't warp because of what I hope to and pretend to be. If anyone says "I identify as..." just tune out.
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>>719610008
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>>719615381
Good job in jumping to conclusions. I never condoned or agreed with what he/she has stated what they "are". I am well-aware that gender identity is bogus. It's literally an excuse to share one's sexual preferences, yet, still people try and force it to be a "sex" or "gender".

There are only two genders.

Your singles and my third set of dubs.

>>719614600
>>719615422
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>>719610008
I'm sure you get asked this all the time, but what the fuck is wrong with you you insane whack noodle? Don't you have the sense to know when you're completely insane, enough to at least seek help for your advanced psychosis?!!
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>>719610008
Should probably look up a mental health clinic
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>>719610008
I understand, OP. These bodies of ours are temporary.

With mastery of the human genome and the craft of life we will become anything we desire.

Just don't forget that should such an opportunity happen to you that you only were able to achieve it by standing on the shoulders of thousands of years of advancement.
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>>719615262
Not too sure. Before you have a developed mind i don't think it's wise to transfer from a fluid body into a robot. And by then your brain itself has already either indentified itself as male or female.
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>>719615553

FUCKING MISSED QUADS

I literally just went through about seven screens in order to verify that I wasn't a robot.

They're catching on...
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>>719616155
There's my third set. Let's see how far we can go.
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>>719616299
FUCKING DOUBLE DUBS, FOURTH SET
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>>719614671
Sex will likely be deprecated in such a society since it would lose its reproductive purpose and there would be much more enjoyable alternatives (e.g. direct stimulation of the brain's pleasure centers maybe?)

(In fact, this is one point where I actually disagree with Kurzweil. He thinks that sexual intercourse will still have a place in a transhumanist society.)

>>719614955
I suppose leuprorelin combined with some sort of a growth hormone antagonist could work. GH has some useful effects though. Perhaps it might have been possible to induce epiphyseal closure with a surge of estrogen instead? I don't know. Anyway it's too late now. :(
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>>719616322
WHAT?!?!!!?! FIFTH SET TRIPLE DUBS
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>>719610008
How does it feel being gender retarded?
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>>719616340


>>719614600
>>719615422
>>719616155
>>719616299
>>719616322

Hollll eee shit.
Ready for my sixth set?
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>>719610676
Don't hold your breath.

>>719611094
>all aliens are superior
>aliens can't have religions

Kill yourself.
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you are really into yourself, aren't you
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>>719610008
You just need a job fag.
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>>719616603
Who needs a job when he can live off of student loans and then research grants
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most of the people in here do not understand the concept of gender even definitionally. total plebs

this is the most badass thing i've seen on /b/ in a while. gender nihilism ftw. good luck!
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>>719616646
i got paid 15k a year to go to university. essay competitions are lucrative in undergrad
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>>719613202
>"a beautiful new world can be created"
Yup, that's some supervillain level shit right there.
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>>719616413
Woah would you look at the time.

That should be my sixth set of dubs.

or Satan trips.
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>>719616768
Fail.
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>>719616806
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>>719610008
A reminder that the entire concept of "gender" is bullshit and made up by John Money

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

Who royally fucked over the Reimer family. They had two twin boys. Once had a botched circumcision. John Money talked them into chopping off his genitals and raising him as a girl.

>In 2000, David and his twin brother (Brian) alleged that Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving "thrusting movements", with David playing the bottom role.[16] He said as a child, Money forced him go "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks", and that Money forced David to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Money reportedly took photographs of the two children doing these activities. Money's rationale for these various treatments was his belief that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".

His parents called bullshit when John Money tried to talk them into giving him a false vagina.

Brian committed suicide in 2002. David committed suicide in 2004.
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>>719614261
Technology, a human creation that grows evermore, forevermore, allows you to come forth and rigorously conduct your faggotry here on the Chan. Ergo, No, YOU kill yourself,
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>>719616868
this person thinks gender was invented in 2000

.......... lmfao do some anthropology
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>>719610008
Really the whole gender thing.. it boils down to this.
Gender is based not on what you feel you are.
You can feel however the fuck you want, it doesn't change your gender.. sorry.

Your body will produce certain hormones and build a bone structure a certain way.
Some people are born with both sets of genitals, it happens more than you think, often a doctor and parents will decide that childs gender removing one set of genitals, however their body may develop along a different path and then they are stuck with different genitals with a body producing different hormones and creating a different bone structure than what is meant for the genitals.

If you were NOT born with both sets of genitals you are not a hermaphrodite you were born a male or a female and your body will develop only a certain way, regardless of how much artificial shit you do to it.. it is still that gender.

unless you are able to completely regrow your entire body all over again into a different sex it wont happen.. maybe one day you can swap shit like in a video game, but thats just not how shit works now anon.

Feel how you want, just dont expect everyone else to accept or understand you.. because they wont.. good day to you.
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>>719616962
you're not talking about gender, you're talking about sex.

use a dictionary before you run your mouth?

waste of a brain
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>>719617019
I am talking about gender you fucking retarded new age faggot who thinks gender is a state of mind not a physical condition, holy fuck you dumb cunt go fuck yourself
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>>719616806
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>>719617019
Gender and sex are the same goddamn fucking thing OH WAIT IS IT REWRITTEN IN SOME NEW KING JAMES VERSION OF THE DICTONARY WHERE ALL TRANS-FLUID-OMNI GENDER CUCKS ARE RECOGNIZED AS A NEW SPECIES!?
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>>719610008
how long is your dick?
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Gender: the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
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>>719617065
Have fun being left behind in society. Our postmodern understaning of gender is being adopted by society's collective morality. Over fifty percent of millennials believe gender is a spectrum, and more and more articles about it are being published. Non binary activism is now widespread, and is even featured in this months national geographic.
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>>719617199
you misread and misunderstood this definition.
Definition of gender

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a : a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical formsb : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclassc : an inflectional form (see inflection 3a) showing membership in such a subclass

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a : sex <the feminine gender>b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

When it says behavioral and cultural, it doesn't mean that solely defines your gender/sex (yes its the same fucking thing) it means that gender can be applied to behaviors, cultures and psychological traits.. men can be feminine in nature but they are still men you stupid cunt.
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>>719610008
What's it like being gay?
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>>719617349
I will have fun pushing the earth into the sun and murdering this entire breed of fucking morons before this devolves any further.. thanks anon, you have further pushed my Misanthrope.. humanity is scum.
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>>719617603
"the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits"

literally has nothing to do with genitals or bone structure. in your own definition. that you cited. you can't even understand basic English sentences and you're raging. conservative neanderthal
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>>719617667
>i disagree with you so humanity is scum!
Youre a child.
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>>719610008
If you wish to return to prepubescent gender-ambiguous, then does that mean you'd preffer the company of children ? Also does this mean you're clovergender?
Oh and, if you somehow manage to return in child form, don't you thing it's too late to reverse the psychological changes which took place during puberty and which are responsible for you wanting to be a child in the first place? So, you go through puberty, psychological changes occur, combined with other factors, leading you to identifying as a trans-chaild or whatever. How does this contradiction fit in? If you didn't go through puberty, you wouldn't want to be prepubescent in the first place.
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>>719617603
So what if one exhibits behavioral, social, and psychological traits associated with the opposite sex? Doesnt that mean their gender is different from their sex?
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Grow up faggot
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>>719617968
no it means they are acting like a different gender, it doesnt actually making them a different gender.. what is so hard to understand about this.. your body and mind are two different things.. you can feel like a woman all you want, you can think like a woman you can behave like a woman.. it doesn't make your body a womans.. nothing will.. no matter how much you rage about it or try to convince yourself otherwise.
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>>719610008

cancer bait
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>>719617968

YES. that's why they're different concepts. you got it
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>>719618134

says 'what is so hard to understand about this...' then gives you a literally prescientific rant ab 'body' and 'mind'

pathetic. you don't know what you're doing with words. you're not communicating what you're trying to because you don't understand the words you're using. enjoy your medieval understanding of life
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>>719617124
>>719617124

dictionaries exist to describe how words are used, not to prescribe how words should be used. That's one of the many reasons there's so many different English dictionaries, all of which publish a new edition each year.
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>>719610008
do you got a dick or vag? if the latter tits or GTFO
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>>719617874
No, I intend to be fully adult and live an adult life. Just inside a child body.
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whelp i'm going to bed. sorry to leave OP with troglodytes

FUCK gender.
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>>719616764
supervillians are the only ones allowed to create, then?

k
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>>719617874
>Oh and, if you somehow manage to return in child form, don't you thing it's too late to reverse the psychological changes which took place during puberty and which are responsible for you wanting to be a child in the first place? So, you go through puberty, psychological changes occur, combined with other factors, leading you to identifying as a trans-chaild or whatever. How does this contradiction fit in? If you didn't go through puberty, you wouldn't want to be prepubescent in the first place.

I hated puberty ever since it began. I can't think of anything that is more antithetical to my needs and wants than puberty. I like being an adult because it grants me freedom and autonomy but the physical changes that come with puberty and pubescence were annoying and unnecessary IMO.
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