How intelligent do you consider yourself to be? And what is your

I don't typically quantify my intelligence, but I identify as a right-libertarian, edging on minarchist.

>>719174428
i'm an incredibly stupid fuck who used to be pretty smart in his teens (late teens). I'm 32 now and turned into an idiot somewhere on the way.
I'm still definitely leaning to the right/libertarian, though.

>>719174428
I' m not really sure, that intelligence is something really measurable, and met quality if not geiuos thoughts from very simple or even stupid people, and I'm constantly disappointed with formally clever guys (e.g. scientists), who eventually think surprisingly primitive and silly. But I have relatively hight IQ, which is not a reliable measurement either. Anarha-feminist.

>>719174428

who is she anyway?

Smartest person I know. Libertarian - right.

The left /right paradigm is polluted by emotional empathy. Intelligence in the left is from those that are wealthy and feel a need to take care of others. Poor lefties are by far the lowest intelligence.

>>719174428
I think it's fair to say I'm pretty intelligent. I'm a left wing socialist/liberal.

>>719174428
I think i am slightly above average I think. Some people told me that they think I am smart. I am leaning to the left.

>>719174428
I have a PhD in Physics and have worked for NASA/JPL off and on for many years

I'm an Atheist and a HUGE Trump Supporter....this pisses off all of my "very intellectual" peers

I don't consider myself intelligent though, just really good at math and take time to learn things as well as take time to form a decision on something so that I fully understand it...

>>719174428
I'd say at least top 5% (theoretical particle physicist as occupation). And I'm almost entirely centrist (ideally I'd be more toward the right as it's economically more pragmatic, but they can't get past their Christian base).

>>719175587
>>719175598
>both physicist

What's the probability on these post being 5 seconds apart lol

>>719175434
I completely disagree, there is a fundamental ignorance of society necessary to justify being right wing. 'Poor' as you say and uneducated is a causal link and if they're left wing it's because of the former, not the latter. *mostly on all of the above.

>>719174428
What a stupid post.

My prediction:

>People will lie about their intelligence, saying they're really smart
>Right wingers will say they're really smart and mature, and circle jerk with other right wingers
>A lefty will try to say to do the same, and then get hounded by rightists for being a pseudo-intellectual

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I'm at a 110iq here, mid left libertarian here

>>719174428
Above average IQ at least, lol.
I don't take a political stance. Any smart person should see that all ideologies are flawed.

>>719175434
I disagree.

Poor lefties are trying to help their own situation through voting for parties that help the welfare state and job protection.

Poor right wingers, like those in America, are actually voting against there best interest.

It's only now, with Trump, that being poor and voting right wing is slightly sensible since Trump supports protectionism for some weird fucking reason.

I'm not really that smart when it comes to social constructs(which is why I chose to study economics), but I love capitalism and believe in free rights so I guess I'm a right-libertarian...

>>719175868
- parties are flawed, many ideologies aren't (maybe not perfect but good)

>>719176006
Ok, gimme a perfect one.

U nazi.

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719174554 here, I thought that I'd post my political compass, for what it's worth.

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>>719176047
A more pure world free of infidels

deus vult my friend

>>719176006

Nothing isn't flawed.

>>719175924
In some cases poor right wing is voting for the benefit of the economy which is indirectly in benefit of them. e.g. 2010 conservatives. However, the debt they promised to get a rid off (created by left wing reckless borrowing supposedly) they tripled through more borrowing

>>719174428
I don't believe current policies are sufficient as certain situations require special attention.
I do not self-identify as a member of any major party.
Others might call me a leftist as there is some semblance of hope (that your average encounter with any random individual is positive) still left in me.
In practice closer to right, ideally closer to left.

>>719174428
for obvious reasons, i'd say average intelligence

i don't have a "political standpoint" because i'm not twelve or a simpleton, so i like to think about things, rather than have a "hurr durr my tribe your tribe" approach to life

>>719175737
When there was a Civil War between left ("red") and right ("white") here in Russia, not-so-big anarchist participation was under slogan "beat the red, until they turn white; beat the white, until they turn red".

>>719176047
Literally said it wasn't perfect...

>>719176266
Political stance is about ideology, not picking a party...

>>719175598
Also, as my follow up to this, I'll tell you (what's probably obvious)--that a hefty majority of academia in the physical sciences is very liberal. The biggest reason? They consistently fund us, whereas the right has cancelled projects even after spending billions on them (though the military spending does sometimes help DoD funding, which is a big portion of theoretical physics, at least).

>>719174428
I'd say average, maybe slightly above average intelligence. I'd consider myself a centrist as I don't think any one ideology has the correct answers for everything, but I lean to the left.

Dumb as a bag of rocks, conservative.

>>719176260
Haven't had a legitimate IQ test since I was younger and my parents wouldn't tell me the exact number from fear of inflating my ego.
somewhere >125

>>719176464
and ideologies are for simpletons and teenagers

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>>719174428
Average intelligence? People tell me I'm smart and I do have a 4 year degree so I'm at least not that dumb. I'm mainly towards the left and libertarian? I basically just think we need to care more about our planet and survival as a species and less about hoarding resources and being religious fucktards. We should have space colonies by now but instead we're fighting over some dumb shit that never should have been in the political process now the top position in our government. My only hope is that Trump fucks things up so bad in the next few years that laws are put in place so that people like him are never allowed to run for office again and that heads of departments have to have extensive knowledge of their position (like head of EPA being a scientist and not just some rich fuck) and such.

>>719176581
Why? So if we were all clever, we wouldn't run society in anyway, and all immediately die xD

>>719176464
>Political stance is about ideology, not picking a party...

Exactly this. You don't have to believe everything that the ideology that you associate with propagates. I rather view it as a way for people to get a rough idea of where I stand. To me, it means very little more.

>>719176532
>IQ test
>Legitimate
Top kek

>>719175924
The welfare state has caused wealth to be lost. Middle class is struggling, they take the most burden from taxes.

A person making, say, 50k a year Would be able to pay for all their family expenses +food +health care. That same person after taxes likely now NEEDS food +health benefits.... This scenario is why Trump won. Our country is filled with people who's life has gotten harder.

>>719176678
found the teenager

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I've never had a full on IQ test, but I did have a partial for some anxiety and dislexia testing (mostly cognitive reasoning and the shit where you have to remember a bunch of random numbers and words and shit then use them to solve something) and the report concluded it was "at least 127, and would likely be more given further testing".

I'm definitely right wing, though a bit left leaning for some social issues. I guess libertarian

>>719174428
Smartier than all of yous! I vote Obongo evrytim

>>719176755
It's not about any association with anyone else. It's simply an opinion on how the world should work. You can't not have this, you as an individual can not know but someone has to or society doesn't work.

>>719176807
Really get bored when people express a point of view, then attack anyone who disagrees with labels and makes not logical backing for their point.

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I'm 17 so I haven't gotten to meet a lot of people with complex minds and different backgrounds. I consider myself smarter than over half the people I encounter.
I grew up with very liberal parents, and I am pretty liberal myself, but I'd like to think I'm good at seeing both sides of whatever issue at hand.
Pic semi-related; I identify with Lisbeth hardcore, being of underestimated intelligence and hating everyone.

>>719175423
elle alexandra

>>719177078
yeah, when you grow up you'll find out that most points of view are retarded and not really worth addressing.

for example, read

>>719176678

>>719176806
Which is largely due to the wealthy not paying their part and instead abusing our labyrinthian tax code's loopholes to pay damn near nothing. Taxing the poor is like squeezing blood from a rock, they get most of that money back anyways as they need it to live. The middle class are the only poor bastards who have the resources to pay, but lack the resources to dodge.

So why vote in a man who openly states he abuses those loopholes and now refuses to release his tax returns? He's the epitome of what's wrong with the system, but the poor and middle class right rally behind him anyways?

>>719174428
I tend to think of things in terms of maturity rather than intelligence.

I think I'm very socially mature. I'm emotionally immature though, but thankfully my social maturity lets me think before I act on those emotions.

That being said, I'm also (officially) autistic, so some things that are "common sense" for others are totally un-obvious to me.

>>719176785
Yeah, they're so rare these days that it's almost mythological.
>inb4 they were never reliable
The SATs aren't a reliable metric for judging value, either, but plenty of institutions judge by them.
I'm not here to relay my intelligence, as it's quality entirely subjective. I'm here to shitpost.

>>719177110
Get ready for the B& wagon bitch

>>719175723
That made no logical connection from one point to another.
You must be a poor lefty

Not a genius, not retarded either.

Buying into the left/ right thing and believing your vote makes a difference are for idiots

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I follow a variety of sources on the right and a few on the left. I am adamantly ant feminism and moderately pro trump. I got to an uber liberal school and neighborhood. Hell my history teacher teaches the prejudice+power model for racism, one of the stupidest ideas to come from the left. But I usually have to keep quite as to not stir up trouble.

>>719177521
>believing your vote makes a difference are for idiots

it does at the local level

>>719177423
what

>>719177343
Hillary embodies everything that is wrong US government, and Trump embodies everything wrong with US culture.

>>719174428
Above average probably.

Political standpoint: "Why are you calling me? It's 9 a.m. on a Sunday."

>>719177668
Arguably. You have no proof of it's direct influence as you do not have access to all of the contextual information. You have faith that they (votes) make a difference because they (voting and completion of goals) coincide chronologically.

I know im smarter than average.
Lazy af and still okayish grades in a better uni
Atheist
I would consider myself as a pragmatist. More left than right. As long they reduce the influence of religious institutions and keep the nation going im fine.

>>719177521
Americans make a token, half-assed effort to come out once every four years, toss in a ballot for President, and then bitch and moan about how their votes don't matter if it doesn't go their way. They ignore local elections, city elections, state elections, mid-term elections, etc but because the presidential vote in my non-swing state didn't pan out, fuck it, the whole system sucks and I refuse to partake in it.

I've been told many times I'm highly intelligent. As douchy as it sounds, I don't disagree. I struggle to meet interesting people.

I'm a centrist, though my alignment falls within the typical European spectrum. I'm sure in the US I'd be considered moderately left-wing. Truth be told I'd like to hear your opinions on wether or not I'm mistaken about my political standpoint.

I'll just list a few of my views here:

> I'm completely pro-choice, up to the 16 week mark (cases of malformations or health issues are free of time limit). I also believe men should have the right to state their opposition to the pregnancy and withdraw support up until the 12 week mark.
> I'm against lax immigration policies (Switzerland is in my opinion the country that does it best).
> I'm completely in favor of market regulation aimed at consumer protection (EU's food safety laws are great for the consumer, FDA's stance in food safety is too much "profit first, deal with consequences later").
> I'm in favor of public healthcare, along with a minimal welfare system geared towards ensuring that KIDS growing up won't be hindered in their pursuit of their goals by their parents' financial situation.
> I see no problem with gay marriage and adoption rights.
> I'm completely against anything that brings religion into government. I'm against teaching creationism in schools. I'm against mentions of god in official documents, oaths, and ceremonies. I'm in favor of religious freedom, as long as people keep their religion to themselves. I'm against any sort of infant circumcision, with medical emergencies being the only exception.
> I find PC culture repulsive. There are two genders, and yes, some people may be transgender due to yet undisclosed genetic predispositions or whatever, which is still a simple misalignment within the binary system. Anything beyond that is a psychiatric disorder.

(cont)

>>719174428
Ivy League educated, PhD holder.

Former Democrat, now Republican.
35 years old, polyglot, accomplished both in career and family.

When I think of political stands, well, 21 years ago a Democratic president signed DOMA into law, with full support of his wife, and now former 2017 presidential nominee.

20 years ago, Democrats were willing to say: "marriage is a constitution between a man, and a woman.

Nowadays, democrats can't even agree on what a man (or woman) is.

Our nation is fucking pathetic and we need some conservative values.

>>719177410
SATs are fairly reliable. I've yet to meet a very clever student who averaged less than 600 on each section and yet to meet a student who was not quite good averaging above 700 on each section (from a sample size of maybe 20 relevant scores that I knew, which increases if you add people I knew when I was an undergrad).

>>719177840
This, mostly.
Trump's could be refined to mere capitalism.

>>719177343
Trump proposed solutions to actually get tax money from the top. Tax companies that manufacture outside then move products back. Lower corporate taxes to keep business here. Corporate tax rates can be over 40%.

Most people dont really know how taxes work for Wall Street. Capitol gains tax is a phrase that means nothing to most.

Trump got support from his ability to speak inclusive. "We will Maga". "we have a movement"...... We this, we that.

>>719177840
That's actually a nice way to think of it. I was gonna say in that post that everything Trump once said about closing the tax loopholes rang as hollow as Hillary aping Bernie's talking points about bringing the hammer down on Wall Street.
People genuinely believed the elite will find themselves in a position of power and use it to govern and punish themselves, when they no longer have any real reason to. It's ridiculous.

I can't really quantify my own intelligence at all. I'd like to think I'm above average, but sometimes I can be retarded as well. I was fairly above average in school from age 7 to 16, which led to me never having to study, which then led to me having trouble when I actually needed to study. Compared to most people I know I'd say I'm fairly intelligent though.

Id guess i was slightly above average, and i mostly agree with paleoconservatism but im more left leaning on some shit

>>719177309
The point being that you said any political opinion was for simpletons. Without any opinion on how to run the country, how the fuck would it function?

Not really sure how intelligent I am.

I'm right wing with a touch of alt-right. And no, not hate motivated.
Trump is a godsend, and can help the US get out of the 19 trillion dollars worth of national debt and stop the SJW and political correctness epidemic.
He can also, contrary to popular belief, help the inner city hellholes like Detroit and Cleveland get back on their feet. He just brought in 52k jobs, not even POTUS yet.
It also encourages countries like Sweden to get a lot stricter and harsher on border control, generally enforcing a nationalistic attitude and patriotism in general.

>>719178200
I went and half-assed it twice. Got the same score twice. (1260 iirc) SATs only convey ability/willingness to participate in an established metric within certain parameters. They do not transcribe intelligence.

arrogant faggots thread

>>719177501
No, I'm not. The link was they are both responding to different parts of the referenced comment

>>719178674
This
t. arrogant faggot

>>719178025
there is proof. votes are counted and results posted. local issues, judges, representatives etc impact your life directly

>>719178612
Intelligence is being able to absorb information and apply it. SATs are pretty reliable if you ask me.

>>719175402
Weak bait

>>719174428
I'm highly intelligent, I have an INTP personality.

Capitalist libertarian (true death to big government)

>>719178185
Take a guess at the one I have an issue with xD

>>719178185
Those are some fairly standard moderate liberal views, but I think you've avoided some of the more challenging views in American politics that would identify you as extremist vs moderate vs whatever: How should we approach wealth inequality, especially for minorities? To what level does endemic racism affect the likely outcomes of children of minority status? What price do we pay when we tend toward globalization of our economy, and is it worth it? How do we treat public policy given the major, persisting divide that splits out country socially?

You make minor attempts to hash out opinions (minimal welfare support system), but these things are fairly agreed upon among liberals and moderates (and pretty ineffective). To find where you sit on the liberal spectrum, you'll need to have bigger opinions.

>>719175868
lol fucking retard.

>>719178992
kek
s-standing for nothing takes m-moral courage

>>719178775
>votes are counted
by people who have the ability to lie
>results posted
may or may not be actual results
>local issues, judges, representatives etc impact your life directly
for as long as you abide by the law, yes.

>>719174428
I think the most intelligent people consider themselves stupid

the reason being is that:

- Someone who believes they are truly that smart has a higher chance of striving to learn more

- Likely uses less introspective reasoning, and thus..

- Doesn't improve on bad conclusions

The people who ask a lot of questions and are involved I find are smart, they want to know things. Those who believe they are smart tend to be the retarded fucks.

>>719179152
sorry, rather, "Someone who believes they are truly that smart has a lower chance of striving to learn more"1

>>719178200
I've heard that argument before, just like "grades don't indicate someone's mastery of the subject." And to some point THEORETICALLY, I agree. But after teaching at the university level for almost a decade, I can tell you that the correlation is very strong. Again, I've never known an A student who didn't know their stuff, nor have I encountered a D student who knew what they were talking about. Same idea with SAT scores. Honestly, people who can't bring themselves to care about such an important test will probably struggle to bring themselves to care about anything academic, and so are effectively not very intelligent academically.

>>719178185
(contd)

> I'm against any sort of affirmative action quotas, be them gender or race based. As I mentioned previously, I'm in favor of ensuring every kid growing up is given access to very good education, nothing more.
> I'm against having different fitness requirements for men and women in professions that have them.
> I'm in favor of treating the drug problem as a public health problem, that is, people in possession of small doses should be directed to rehab treatment and social counseling instead of prison, police should focus entirely on dealers and gangs.
> I'm completely in favor of net neutrality. Internet must become classified as an utility.
> I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana.
> I'm in favor of prohibiting all smoking in enclosed public spaces and transport, as well as in the vicinity of schools and hospitals.
> I'm against having juries of random citizens be the deciding factor in trials. Facts are facts, and the law is the law, this practice of treating trials as an appeal to juror's emotions is retarded. Have three judges analyze the case and dispense verdict based on their deep understanding of the law. Appeals should not be so financially demanding.
> I believe political campaigns should rely entirely on public funding. Every candidate receives the same amount of funding. No donations. Makes no sense for people and corporations to start voting with their wallets before election day. One vote per person. Less attack ads, more debates.

That's all I can think of for now.

>>719179114
No, standing from nothing takes cowardice. Saying "oh well everyone is wrong anyways, so I don't have an opinion" tells me you are just lazy or incompetent.

>>719179253
agreeing with your views doesn't make someone random's opinion valid that you're smart, silly self-centered fagfuck

the fact that you think you're smart because of your subjective opinions on politics shows you're actually a stupid fuck

>>719178849
SATs require you to be willing and able to convey your intelligence in order to become a reliable metric.
Half of these requisites were not met when I took the SATs, therefore, it is posiible that SATs are not an accurate metric for intelligence.
SATs are to intelligence as speaking is to vocal ability.
The lack or inefficiency of one does not disprove the other.

>>719178067
Not even American

>>719179253
Dude you are fucking ignorant. Go get some non-college education.

>>719174428
I try not to say that I'm intelligent or whatever because it's cringy as fuck. All I have to quantify it is I have a 150 iq.

As far as politics, I am leftish. I hate American Democrats and PC culture. I guess I'm left-libertarian. I'd call myself socialist, but to most people, that implies a level of authoritarian, not libertarian. I'm much more socially left, but economically I'm closer to centrist.

>>719179596
Which is why I specifically said Americans. If you're from anywhere else, I can't speak for your democratic system's existence, let alone its integrity.

>>719179492
These arguments are dumb. People will go to such lengths to deceive themselves into thinking they're great. The SAT measures intelligence the same way a bench press measures strength. Sure, it's possible by some freak nature that the strongest man alive doesn't get up 225 lbs (maybe he's having a stroke or is ridiculously ill), but strong people tend to get it up easily and weak people can't. Self-delusion game so strong

>>719179133
so what are you then? a nihilist?

>>719179766
Maybe I'm retarded after all. I misunderstood

>>719179814
Hes an idiot with too many opinions

>>719179802
>Those arguments are dumb
>followed by legitimate scenarios in which someone with ability could or would not properly properly express that ability at that time
You've made an analogous argument for me while calling it dumb.
Btw, that 1260 was for two sections; I'm not a retard with delusions.
You're clearly retarded, though.

>>719179814
>>719179898
This, although I prefer faggot.

>>719174428
I feel highly intelligent, but there is a big probability for everyone to feel the same so guess I dunno.
Left about society
Im in an Economic Degree so about economics I try to avoid opinions based on nothing. Stick to the statistics or some theoretical element.

>>719174428
I have a PhD in neuroscience, so I'm smarter than average I suppose.

Politically I'm quite far on the left wing, but not most certainly not a communist. I think capitalism is a good thing, but it needs to be regulated to provide the right incentive structure. Besides economically, whether I'm authoritarian or not depends on the topic. Abortion, gay marriage, embryonic stem cell research, and use of some (but not all) drugs should be legal. Green energy should be something to strive for, and that includes nuclear power.

>>719178883

??

>>719178948

ok, here goes:

> How should we approach wealth inequality, especially for minorities? To what level does endemic racism affect the likely outcomes of children of minority status?

I believe those two points are related. Again, I'm in favor of a system that directly supports schooling expenses for kids that come from poor families. I don't mean giving money to the parents, I mean a system where the kid goes to school and welfare pays his bills directly.

I'm not very familiarized with the circumstances surrounding other ethnicities, but when it comes to african-american communities, there's a lot of social work required. In order to kickstart an increase in positive career outcomes, schooling districts should be given the tools to create a support structure for kids who have no family stability. I also believe that it's imperative to eradicate the internalized notion that "being successful in school is a white thing, and black kids who get good grades are race traitors". Social pressure is a huge factor during school years, and being pressured to not succeed is a huge hit on a kid's future.

Of course this only affects inequality from the next generation onwards. As for the current generation, I'm in favor of free job-training programs, ensuring the minimum wage does not lag behind minimum costs of living, and little else.

> What price do we pay when we tend toward globalization of our economy, and is it worth it?

Do you mean shipping jobs overseas? I'm in favor of penalizing corporations that open manufacturing plants on countries where workers are subject to unacceptable conditions. If they want to outsource to say, Australia for some reason, where human rights are respected, I don't care. But using borderline slave-labor is off limits. I'm also in favor of applying tax penalties to imports produced under said conditions, otherwise said countries would have an unfair advantage.

I didn't understand the question about public divide.

>>719174428
IQ is 142 but I got checked years ago in middle school. I don't conform to a specific wing but i'll tell some of my views:
-Economic freedom. Our economy is in shambles and I think capitalism will help fix it. Currently there are too many restrictions for doing shit and it hurts business.
--Abortion This ones kinda more difficult. I believe that it shouldn't be allowed, as you have many, many options to stop from having a baby, but on the other hand we already have too many people in the world. Maybe it should stop at one abortion per person?
- National defense. Abolish the TSA, they've been proven to do nothing but waste time. Help create more anonymity online instead of having the NSA and CIA filtering your shit to find out if you're a child rapist or not. Maybe they should only be allowed to investigate online if they have good reason to? Like some sort of tip off on someone.
-Individual rights to keep and bear arms. Perhaps only allowed to carry pistols in public, since shit like rifles scare people, even if pistols are more powerful.
-Much, much less standardized testing in schools. Less homework. More hands on learning instead of just a teacher getting up front and repeating exactly what they learned.
-Way, way less immigration. America isn't a fucking swivel door. You don't come here for five years, work your dead end job then go back to your country.

ps anyone that says IQ tests are bullshit are retarded and just salty they scored low. IQ is a great way to measure memory, pattern recognition, problem solving and other topics.

>>719179437

The fact that you somehow reached that conclusion from reading my post shows you fail basic reading comprehension. I never mentioned using politics as a screening tool for potential friends. I also never said I consider myself smart due to my political opinions. I never mentioned anything regarding how and why I consider myself smart, because it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Read it again, slowly. Consider asking an adult to help you.

>>719174428
I'm above average but I'm not going to say I'm a genius or anything. My views are mostly libertarian in that the less gov interference in the market the better, and that basically anything that doesn't harm others or their property should be legal.

>>719174428
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

You're opinion of IQ is worthless

>>719177110
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

You're toast.

>>719181329

>You're opinion of IQ is worthless
>You're opinion
>You're as possessive

I wouldn't go around questioning people's IQ if I were you.

>>719174428
I think I'm smarter than most people. I scored 133 on an iq test.
But secretly I stupid as hell. I dont do great in my classes. My gpa is shit. I drink way too much. So not really smart where it counts.
Anyways I am pretty much a fucking commie.

>>719180929
>--Abortion This ones kinda more difficult. I believe that it shouldn't be allowed, as you have many, many options to stop from having a baby, but on the other hand we already have too many people in the world. Maybe it should stop at one abortion per person?
>Contraceptives have never failed before
Are you 15?

>>719174428
I guess fairly above average in terms of natural sciences, biology and finance. I have a degree in physics and am now doing an biomed phd at one of the best institutions in the world

I'm also conservative and egalitarian

why are you asking

>>719178185
>>719179253
>centrist

no. youre a smug, walking contradiction. pretty sure we have a another name for that

>>719181329
>>719181453
Dunning-Kruger effect has fucking nothing to do with iq.

left leaning libertarian. I scored a 1400 (2100+) on my sat which means by some sources ~130 iq. I dropped out of school and play dota all day. your iq doesn't mean anything if you are seriously depressed with no control over your addictions. What matters more is that your work ethic. I guess a certain level of intelligence is needed to be a doctor or lawyer or some shit. But aside from that most professions entail just a basic amount of information retention and repetitive behaviors that even an ape can perform. Intelligence is overrated.

>>719174428
Used to be fairly intelligent. Did well in school up to the start of college. Then I discovered weed and after quitting that binge drinking, and it's been a pretty consistent decline since then. Politically I'd say I'm libertarian.

>>719182177
No, I don't want to.
>insert strawman or ad hom here

>Anyone not stupid would take the injection.
>retarded claim

>They would also wear a condom and wait until they're old enough to support them, another person and a child to reproduce.
>retarded claim

>Contraceptives failing is an extreme case,
>and you're implying that there should be zero recourse

>and it's the same excuse used to say abortion is good because of rape victims.
>Good and evil are matters of context. Abortuon is good in this case.

>There can be exceptions for those
>Decent viewpoint clarified after tons of bullshit
I feel like an archeologist digging through layers of dirt.

>>719174428
slightly above average i'd say
between communism and socialism

>>719174428

I am a moron, and my political standpoint is that all of politics is a scam to get the public to fight over two sides of the same coin. Nothing will ever get done anyways, and increasing technology will allow for the degradation of rights right under the noses of the general population because they are "happy enough" not to do anything about it.

We are doomed.

>>719183081
>decent viewpoint clarified after tons of bullshit
>10 very small sentences
>Almost all of those sentences had a use in explaining my viewpoints, and the extreme cases was just my view on extreme cases, not abortion as a whole.

>>719182375

where's the contradiction?

>>719174428
>130 iq test (above average so its all good)
>liberal

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136iq here

>>719175330
you can't be moron and aware of it therefore you're not

>>719174428

I consider myself to be of average intelligence, and identify politically as a libertarian (with socially liberal and fiscally conservative tendencies). I honestly don't think intelligence has much to do with political viewpoint (other than places of education tend to push more liberal viewpoints). I honestly think political views have more to do with how invested someone is in political thinking as well as upbringing/environment (since we're herd animals, we tend to pick up viewpoints that are popular in our social circles).

>>719176006
nothing is perfect but we always need to improve on stuff and for that to happen we need to have an idea on what future we want, which is pretty much an ideology.

>>719183805
theres a few

the stance on drug policy for one

>>719182177

I will say you're assuming that everyone can afford the doctor-administered contraceptives -- this isn't the case for a lot of places, including the US.

>>719184802

Not that person, but the drug thing doesn't seem contradictory to me. That person says they think small amounts of drugs should be treated as a health issue, and rehab offered and then goes on to say that marijuana should be legalized altogether. Most drug legislation is already set up to deal with varying amounts of controlled substances, rather than having a set punishment. Personally, however, I feel like drugs should just be legal (after all, it's YOUR body), and that people should just be held accountable for what they do under the influence (essentially taking possession charges out of the mix, but keeping things like driving under the influence or whatever on the books).

>>719180209
I was calling the "SAT doesn't test intelligence" argument dumb. And a 630 score is exactly the type of person who would delude themselves into thinking they're brilliant. Just smart enough to be able to convince themselves they're great. Though I'd allow that you're just illiterate and can still be smart (meaning that I think anybody who can't score 700+ on math is not smart academically--it's ridiculously easy).

>>719184802

I don't think it's contradictory.

When talking about drugs like heroin, meth or crack, that can hamstring a community due to their health impact and addictive nature, you deal with the people who are addicted as people in need of help and rehabilitation, and with the people profiting from that misery as criminals.

When it comes to marijuana, it's not the same, since it has an almost non-existent addictive potential, and has very little long-term health impact on adults. Never has a community been destroyed by marijuana. It may have a negative impact in the social lives of some high-intensity users, but then again, so does alcohol, and marijuana doesn't destroy your liver. So yes, I'm for legalization.

> Hard addictive drugs that destroy lives and families --------------------------------> help the addicts, jail the dealers
> A basically harmless plant that people smoke to relax and/or feel funny ---> legalize it as a recreational substance, much like alcohol, tax it, and hamstring the criminal organizations profiting from the illegal trade

>>719186223
yes but at the same time says police should go after dealers, gangs etc

you cant have it both ways

criminalization creates cartels and dealers. legalization eliminates them. ie prohibition and capone. even strictly from an economic point of view. maybe contradiction wasnt the right word. just illogical.

or saying I hate pc culture but I don't believe God should be in oaths while completely ignoring the fact that removing something already there because you dont like it IS pc culture

>>719187732

That's not true at all. I live in the US, and drug legislation in my state is typically more strict here than in most of the country, and even here we have certain drugs "decriminalized" for personal use, but still pursued as a crime in amounts large enough to be considered as a potential distributor.

>>719188082
it is true. why would you need to be an illegal distributor when its legal for people to buy?

>>719187732

>at the same time says police should go after dealers, gangs

Hard drugs. Legalizing marijuana allows people to purchase it through legal retailers.
Drug dealers aren't going to go out of business simply by having the most harmless item in their catalogues legalized.

The whole point is to have police focus on gangs and cartels who deal in hard drugs, not wasting time and resources going after "John from upstairs who likes to smoke a blunt on sundays".


>saying I hate pc culture but I don't believe God should be in oaths while completely ignoring the fact that removing something already there because you dont like it IS pc culture

There's a big difference between using terms like "hate speech" to impair freedom of speech and rectifying lapses in what's supposed to be a secular government.

>>719188470

You wouldn't. But then again people selling weed are not the issue. Weed is just a harmless thing that can be legalized and taxed with no ill effects.
We're discussing all the other controlled substances, the real problems.

>>719188470

I meant it wasn't true that you couldn't pursue dealers/gangs AND have decriminalized personal use.

I'm with you -- legalization of drugs eliminates a lot of the associated crime (cartels, gangs, etc.).

>>719174428
I don't think I'm very intelligent. But I'm smart enough to never open my mouth on any topic I know fuck-all about, even to give opinions. So I don't end up talking much at all. I've got incredible situational awareness in public though, most stupid people like me usually don't.

And my political standpoint is nobody's business to anyone but me and the voting booth.

>>719174428
Pretty smart i guess. Never had to try in HS and was always around top 4th or 5th percent. Moderate but i lean right. MAGA

>>719189227

You're probably the smartest person to post in this thread so far!

>>719174428
I don't think I'm a genius but I feel a lot smarted than anyone I interact with. I'm not an ass about it, though. I explain my thinking on certain topics and try to help them reach me. I personally believe that all political ideaologies are wrong. There is truth and falsehood in basically and falling into one of them completely is ignorant. Overall, I'm a civic nationalist and a right-libertarian but I think safety nets are necessary to a degree and should be implemented, as long as they actually those in need and are cost effective.

>>719174428
I think i have slightly better than average logical thinkig, but lower social inteligence.

Right wing anarchist/libertarian.

>>719189505
>you can only choose one

>>719176581
I would love to hear your reasoning.

>>719188571
but we should continue to waste money making sure John from upstairs can't do a line of coke on a friday night? you're either all in or out. legalize it all across the board or prohibit it. i just dont see the distinction between the two besides making exceptions for yourself or what you deem acceptable.

as for pc culture the oath with God wasnt a lapse. the country was founded by men that believed in a higher power. you have the right to practice whatever religion you like. changing the oath because you disagree with it is political correctness. its not a far jump from there to hate speech

>>719174428
According to tests, my intelligence is above average. I think its utterly ridiculous how Americans try to reduce something as complex as politics to a simple dichotomy.

>>719188470

I think you might also not understand that drug legislation is kind of strange. Just because it's not illegal to possess drugs, doesn't mean that it's legal to buy them. For instance, in the US, from a federal (national) level, marijuana is illegal to possess, sell, use, cultivate, etc. HOWEVER, state (local) legislation has allowed certain areas to begin selling marijuana.

This comes with its own set of problems (like the dispensaries not being able to have proper tax info or business bank accounts) due to them technically being a criminal enterprise. Legalization DOES fix these problems, but that's a generally long and difficult road, when you're talking about controlled substances (especially from a federal standpoint, where enforcement has been such a big thing for so long).

> 2.5-3 sigma above average in intelligence
> 2 master degrees from a good school
> Income ~$100K
> Politics "dissident right" or "alt-right"

I hail the God-Emperor Donald Julius Caesar Trump as a step in the right direction.

Despite what the liars @ CNN say, people like me are not "White Supremists (sic)"-- we just reject the beltway right bullshit of direct mail contributions to fundies like Ben Carson / Rick Perry, the idea that we're so special that we can invade anyone we please, and the notion that "diversity is our GREATEST strength."

>>719190114
So you are a retard then.

>>719189584

Anarchists aren't super far off from libertarians. Both are about less government, but libertarians tend to shift that government from federal to state level (favoring local legislation over federal -- basically allowing states to determine the laws and standards of living for residents). Obviously, personal freedom is a big thing too, but libertarians don't typically balk at the idea of government, but understand it has a role, and that its power should be limited.

>>719190255
>So you are a retard then.

Per CNN, yes.

I do not favor
> overthrowing Assad
> confronting Russia over Crimea
> importing wogs @ 1 million / year
> spending more in "defense" than the next 8 biggest spenders combined

Yes, completely indefensible positions.

While education level is not indicative of "inherent intelligence," however that may be qualified or quantified, it should say something that STEM fields, especially in higher-acadaemia, are overwhelmingly dominated by liberally oriented people. This holds true regardless of how the groups are split, but does lean slightly more conservative if only men are considered.

These are people, especially those in the S part of STEM, and especially especially lifetime academics, who have the training and practice to take problems into consideration, identify and weigh their contributing factors objectively, and come up with appropriate solutions, then appropriately modify the solutions if they did not work exactly as planned.

I am always flabbergasted that people who are not scientists can look at the way scientists view problems, and not think "that is the way to go about solving the problem." Solving problems is literally what scientists do for a living. Even if they're not formally trained in the subject of sociopolitic, they're overwhelmingly likely better equipped to approach the situation from an effective solution-finding perspective than you.

tl;dr
if you're an average joe and you think your opinions on how to drive politics to solve major public problems is more likely correct than the average scientist, you're a complete moron.

>>719190315
whereas anarchists shift the governance to the individual level. an "each person should be their own government" type sitch.

>>719190643

Well, defense spending will likely be going up (or at least not down [per the Trump]), but the rest of that will likely be not happening in the next 4 years. Despite the fact that I generally don't favor right candidates, since I tend to have liberal leanings on social programs, I'm actually pretty excited to have Trump in office. I honestly think it'll be a good run, so long as he doesn't die and stick us with Mike Pence.

>>719190114
Fortunately, Trump will not be president long. He will be in violation of the Constitution the second he is sworn in. Impeachment will happen quite quickly. That is, if the Repubs don't go 25th amendment on him first.

Libertarian Socialist with some AnCom leanings

I have an IQ of 126, based not on internet bullshit but off a legit psychological examination I took in high school

>>719191277

Exactly. And, if I thought people could be trusted to not be complete dickbags in the absence of central governance, I'd be an anarchist.

I would say I'm a solid 6.23/10. Also Right libertarian

>>719191957
me too, probably
but I lean very far left, and in a completely libertarian society left-leaners get taken advantage of

I'm very authoritarian

I kind of wish I were king of everybody so that I could just make the society like that from The Giver, but with fewer obvious flaws.