I've been lucky enough to spend a year in the US studying as an exchange student, here's what I've learnt
- Americans genuinely believe they live in the best country in the world. They passionately hoist their flag up everywhere and they sing their national anthem at any given opportunity (like at a friggen prom). They don't know much about the outside world (a lot of them don't have passports) - Fresh fruit and veg is rare or non existent. It is really hard to eat healthy because frozen food is so cheap and abundant. The typical American does not cook, they put frozen chicken strips in the oven - There is a serious lack of culture. I don't know how to describe this one, but there is a lack of "something". The comedy is dire, it's slapstick clown shit for idiots to laugh at. And the music: Just watch nicki manaj anaconda and you will get the idea
If anyone has experience living in the US as an expat please share your stories
It sounds like you moved to a city. In rural areas, fresh produce (and meat) is the norm. You usually even know the people who grow them.
Flag hoisting and all of that other patriotic bullshit is just something people do because 'it is done.' I have a flag on my property. My neighbors have flags. It means nothing to me and is basically yard decoration.
Our culture is awful. Maybe it's because we're a relatively young country, I don't know. But whatever the cause, it is indeed shit.
>Americans genuinely believe they live in the best country in the world We do >Fresh fruit and veg is rare or non existent It is abundant. Has your third world ass been in a US supermarket? >There is a serious lack of culture No one gives a shit what you think
Get your filthy self back to Europistan where you can wipe your ass with your bare hand in peace
In rural areas there is a culture amongst successful Peogle that is unlike anywhere in the world. Farmers who worm hard, drink hard, and tell good stories. They are engineers, farmers, mechanics and didn"t go to school to learn it. They learned from their parents and grandparents. The land owning class is this country has strong culture and tradition.
>>718961290 OP, you're full of shit America is fucking YUUUGGEEE and I doubt you've seen or experienced any more than your TV and a few miles around your campus. Go fuck yourself, nigger of unknown origin. Go back to your country. You're not needed here.
britfag here. while most american culture is kind of shitty, the rest of the world seems to suck it up like a warm log of shit from andy sixxs asshole. anyway, got to get backto my tea and crumpets >tips monocle
>>718965470 Yes they are, they are the proletariat. They own millions of dollars worth of farm ground and commercial equipment.They have traveled more than you ever will. You are ignorant and do not know this side of American rural culture.
>>718961290 >I didn't go out into rural america which makes up the largest portion of america
Where I live, tons of people grow and cook their own food and hunt for it too. They're mostly nice people with a good sense of patriotism and community, not to mention a diverse set of opinions and ideas.
>>718961290 >i have been to one american city/town for 365 days >i can now make sweeping generalizations about a culturally diverse country of over 300 million people living in vastly different climates/cultures/population densities
Foreigners are really this stupid. Yes I took the bait.
>>718965782 >They are the proleteriat The majority of rural America does not have the reading level to know what proleteriat means. >They own millions of dollars of farm ground and commercial equipment Collectively, they own some shit that they use for labor. Great. >They have traveled more than you ever will Simply not true. You are either misinfomed or deluded. I have done a fair amount of traveling. >You are ignorant MD-PhD candidate, came from the midwest, plenty of family in the areas you are talking about
>>718961290 Move to America for job after being poached while on course.
Move to Alaska slightly after a year or so.
- I love guns, Americans love guns, guns are so cheap here its awesome. -I love old American cars, old American cars are so cheap here. -Americans are friendly as fuck, I have about 1billion more friends here. -I have a snowmobeil and quadbike that I go out with my new bros on weekends. -They are overly patriotic though. But fuck that its my new home, I have an Ameican flag in my front yard.
>>718966527 That PhD isn't doing much for you. That cracks me up that you equate a PhD with intelligence. The most intelligent people I know are the millionaire farmers I was just discussing, they have more culture in their work books than you will gain in a lifetime. Keep going to school that's where you belong.
>>718966960 See >>718966527 I will give you that I am, in fact, currently on a couch, but by nature of my work I see all kinds of people. My wife is a social worker; this further adds to the diversity of population we are exposed to. I reiterate my point nonetheless.
The US is far from perfect, but some of the things you're saying are typical eurofag idiocy.
>They don't know much about the outside world (a lot of them don't have passports)
Most of the countries in other areas of the world (e.g. in Europe) are the size of US states. Europeans aren't "cultured" because they travel from France to Spain or Germany to Poland. The actual land mass traveled is not as significant as a cross-country US trip.
>There is a serious lack of culture.
American culture is multiculturalism. Why do you think cities like NY and DC have places like Chinatown? The people that live in the areas make it their own - and they started out as immigrants from other places. Other than that there is a culture that, at least that exists as it is today, developed in stride during WW2. It's a white culture. But there are many others. This is not hard to understand.
Open your mind. Other countries are not very different from America, but America is very large and very diverse. I don't know where you were located, but it sounds like it was not a major metropolitan area. Rural areas in America are dying a slow death to metropolitan areas and associated suburbs. End of story.
>>718961835 It isn't even like that in the city. I live in Philly and can easily get fresh food for cheaper than frozen food. The only people that think you can't get fresh healthy food are retards that think healthy means organic, and people who only go to meme grocery stores.
America is full of different cultures and backgrounds because it is meant to be a big fuckin mixing pot of all races and ethnicities. Those that immigrate bring their cultures here and keep practicing those cultures because they have freedom. How do we lack culture? We have culture from all over the world all mixed into one country fuckwit.
Well my experience is my dad's dad was some kind of strict evangelical religious bullshit american that when he did something wrong or didn't listen to something the nuns would come and slap him or something. so my dad grew up in a strict radical christian environment and now i feels the shit from him and have to go to chruch every sunday. Total accumulated loss of hours so far from going to chruch and chruch related events is around upper nine hundreds. possibly a thousand and something given how long it's been. it's that time i'll never get back that i could be genuinely enjoying myself such as going to a rock concert, going to a anime con, going to runefest in london, etc. etc. the list goes on. I also lost about $1000 worth of merch from my dad throwing it away. (clothes, games, mangas, Anime DVDs, and other fucking awesome merch) I'm just glad we live in a time now vs. over a decade ago where everything is digital, HDD storage is dirt cheap and easily obtainable now my dad can't throw my shit away :P. but fuck i could have used those clothes i used to have now i wear shiddy shit every day.
>>718967049 >PhD not doing much for you If anyone enters a PhD program with the expectation that the PhD is going to make them smart then there is indeed a problem. >The most intelligent people I know You are basically making the argument that because you know some farmers who are not hicks that there is a rich intellectual culture out in the fields of rural America. That is anecdotal, and that is a sampling bias. Sure, there is *a culture* in rural America. There is *a culture* just about everywhere. I disagree with your flowery description of it as one characterized as the pinnacle of American achievement.
>>718967418 You just can't comprehend what it takes to manage millions of dollars worth of realestate. Making money and being successful. Just get your PhD and tell yourself your smart for being in school for so long while others are out working and making money. See how far being smart gets you. Your ignorant, and you cannot help it. Your experience is limited to getting a PhD. When you get out I. The real world your learn your place.
I think a lot of America's problems come down to a terrible education system and way over the top patriotism. The fact that when anyone from outside their country even slightly points out some of the absurdities with their 'culture' leads to them flailing that anywhere other than their own country is 3rd world is a pretty solid indicator.
>>718964579 not quite nigga you have no great classical composers at all and that to me is your loss. Classicla music will alwsy be a European invention as is the majority of your American world . But we don't hold grudges. I like 'murrica.
>>718961290 OP, it's true, everything, all of it. All kidding aside. The American indoctrination and propaganda machine (schools and media) are designed to make people fat, dumb and gullible. It's how the cattle are kept under control. It is done in such an extreme manner cause it's really fucked up and corrupt here. It is really like a sith took control of the senate and created an empire and is now trying to rule over all the other star systems. I think George Lucas was trying to warn us but the dark side is too powerful.
God why is everyone on 4chan ACTUALLY 12 years old. Go to a country where you get shot at in the streets, there's no clean water, your electricity constantly goes off, and you have to pay police off to keep driving on the roads and come back and tell everyone how "corrupt" the US is. fucking retard
the US can do better but to act like its a third world country is ridiculous
>>718967324 Your wife is a social worker, this in non-applicable to you being "exposed to a diversity of the population", not to mention that it means even less if you're not in a rural area seeing them.
Your point is invalid, draw up some statistics of the people who come from rural areas to attend colleges and then factor them back in with the rural areas and you will find the numbers have a much less drastic margin between them.
>>718967977 Also, I'm not particularly motivated to make a ton of money. If I was I would have gotten an MBA or some shit. MD-PhD is typically for people who want to impact healthcare through research and development. The hours and effort physicians spend trying to look at the world through their patients' eyes is admirable, I believe. That does not mean, however, that I agree with your assessment of rural America. Arguably the only great thing about being ignorant is that it can, in fact, be helped.
>>718961290 >You can live your whole life in China but never be considered Chinese >You can live your whole life in India but never considered Indian >You can live your whole life in Russia and never be considered Russian
Only in América can you be considered a part of our country just for being patriotic and that's why I love America.
>>718968416 That's and interesting point and you are correct, but the top universities are filled with foreign students. As a whole the American population are fairly under-educated outside of some major cities.
>>718968245 You ignored me when I said that I have family in rural America. I have met many farmers: family, acquaintances through my family, and patients who I have cared for as part of my medical education. I study in the southern US currently.
>>718966313 Sadly, this isn't wrong. Even our native rappers and country singers (both pretty awful forms of 'music', btw) try to sound American. Most of our pop stars and movie stars get exported to the UK. McDonald's, Burger King, and Wendy's are running fucking rampant and my TV channels are bombarded with American sitcoms and news programs.
As for the radio... I don't even turn that thing on anymore.
Don't know how they did it, but the whole world knows what's hot and what's going on in the US. It gets rammed down our throats every hour of every day.
I lived in the US for 8 years, 1 year living with american families and the remaining for a bachelors degree and work.
Here the gist what I think about americans,
1. People are very divisive; They identify as Afro-,Asian-,Arab- instead as just plain American. Race and Religion are always at the front and people always go out of their way to point out why they are better/going to heaven etc... 2. There is a big emphasis on consuming. If its there then people gonna use it, being drugs or food. Saw roommates explode in weight and get kicked out due to drugs/alcohol. 3. Sex is seen as something dirty, and reverted even and not talked about openly, meanwhile people have some weird fetishes and but are willing to condemn these things in public. 4. Drugs are completely romanticised in college, abuse of alcohol and other drugs in rampant in colleges. People don't know how to have a good time without sacrificing their mental wellbeing.
I almost married an american. Glad I dodged that bullet.
>>718968301 A third of my income is used to wage war and kill people for no good reason in those third world countries that have electricity and running water. Can you define 3rd world for ma again? Don't think I read that right
>>718961835 I've been lucky enough to spend a year in the rural US studying the bible as an exchange student, here's what I've learnt - Americans genuinely believe they live in the best country in the world. They passionately hoist their flag up everywhere and they shoot their guns at any given opportunity (like at a friggen prom). They don't know much about gun control (a lot of them don't have a gun license) - varied topics are rare or non existent. It is really hard to think clearly because bible preaching is so aggressive and abundant. The typical rural American does not debate, they put jews in the oven - There is a serious lack of other books than the bible. I don't know how to describe this one, but there are no libraries. The comedy is dire, it's slapstick blackface shit for idiots to laugh at. And the music: Just watch church choirs and you will get the idea >If anyone has experience living in rural US as an expat please share your stories
the fact that always prepend american with something says that your point is very false. It is a country divided by race, religion etc...people live generations in the US and celebrate their foreign country holidays etc...they don't marry americans but bring brides from abroad
As a Hoosier, I can attest to the fact that "no produce" is pure shit. Walked into the local JC Plus and there's a whole wall of it plus whats on the floor itself on stands.
>Typical American doesn't cook We are the land of BBQ. I count that as cooking
>Lack of culture Yes and no. The American culture is patriotism, doublestandards, entitled behavior, and flimsy ideals.
However we are also a jumbled mess of cultures thrown together in one continent, so there's that. I dunno, I just eat the corn and shut up while I'm on the job
>Muh anthem Yeah, that's actually pretty accurate. Considering we kinda cheated the REAL locals out of all their land, it's pretty sad when you know that we're less citizens and more hostile takeovers and that America's history of settlement is pretty much an invasion.
Oh well. Indians own the Casinos so they get millions anyways, right?
>>718968554 Also, only in America can you be born in the country, dedicate your life to public service, spend 8 years in the highest position of the political system, and still not be considered American.
>>718961290 I just picked three oranges off my orange tree, also carrots and snap peas from the garden. The eggplant is still too young but coming along nicely, and the tomatoes plants have been producing for weeks. Did have a problem with the Romaine but the Mesclun is doing very well. Sweet potatoes are past due I'm afraid. But still edible.
I'm a Russian, moved here in 98 I like it here, I can do what I want go where I want. I own guns I go shoot I go fish, camp I have a good job I don't know what OP is talking about you can go to any farmers market and get fresh food. Yes some people are dumb welfare assholes that eat frozen food. I live with roommates they always cook home made food. It really is a good country to live in. Yes we have some problems but name me a better country to live in Where you have more freedom. You can't
>>718969087 >Considering we kinda cheated the REAL locals out of all their land, it's pretty sad when you know that we're less citizens and more hostile takeovers and that America's history of settlement is pretty much an invasion. I really, profoundly sorry if this comes across as something of a defense of the americans, but are there any countries on the planet that does not have something along those lines in it's history?
>>718961290 You were here a year and never stepped foot into a grocery store? Usually 1/4 or even 1/3 of space in grocery stores is entirely dedicated to fresh food, fruits, and vegetables.
Maybe not so much in the nigger areas. They usually have kool-aid, watermelon, and chicken everywhere only.
>hoist their flag up everywhere That's mainly just the old generation. The ones who went to Vietnam and after were in Ww2. It's dying off slowly but very surely.
Not that it's a bad thing to be patriotic, though, moron.
>culture Only thing you've said with some merit. Where the fuck were you for a year? What did you do and who were you spending your nights with while in America? Probably a gaming far beta as your host?
Im sick of hearing about culture and this and that. With technology and everything out there today, who gives a fuck about some family traditions etc. I don't.
>>718963558 That's the type of stupid remark I'm tired of. You're not funny and its said by so many people its almost like a reflex, a defence reaction so deep it does sound more like brainwashing the more you think about it. Sorry about your brainwashing bro. I'm glad you think like that though because it means you'll forever remain there.
>>718961290 >Americans genuinely believe they live in the best country in the world thats bc we do. every western country in the world is made better by our existence and our core values(we are created by God, and our rights are inalienable and not created by a government) are what made us become the most powerful nation on earth, in history
>>718972515 >Im sick of hearing about culture and this and that. With technology and everything out there today, who gives a fuck about some family traditions etc. I don't. The voice of the future, a consumer in a marketplace instead of a citizen in a society. There's a famous nazi quote about hearing the word culture and reaching for a pistol, memory is so old fashioned though. Society is being erased by powerful rich people and you're happy with the gadgets that fall into your passive lap. Enjoy the curfew.
The old user base is now in their 30s. Most were 18-29 during /b/'s glory days. Moots age. I know I'm still a loser at 31 still browsing this piece of shit newfag cancer-ridden recently-mainstreamed website
its fairly easy to get fresh produce where i live, hell i eat a salad every day. there are some of the shitty cities that have a lack of good food, mostly black cities (which explains your complaint about culture and music).
nope, i don't have a passport. unlike europe i don't live in a country within an hours drive from the next country. travel is expensive and time consuming.
and yes, we're the best country in the world. that'll hold true for at least a few more days, with trump in charge who knows.
>>718973038 >ww2 >biggest industrial growth in history >best navy >best most supreme military force ever assembled >most GDP ever >>718973134 >>718973038 you both literally have no response, you cannot deny the above bc it is true. i dont need to know you or what country you are from, you only need to know the USA. we are the best bc we are exceptional, not luck
>>718972945 Typical fear mongering American. You also voted for trump, watch Fox news daily and believe everything the media tells you too right?
I'll agree consumerism brain washes our youth. I'm not one of them though. I'm actually fairly educated. Because I don't get a hard on for culture and faggot ass traditions I instantly become considered dumb?
>>718973446 >>ww2 >>biggest industrial growth in history You are wrong on all counts. USSR did more to defeat nazis in WW2 China has bigger industry than US ever did EU has larger nominal GDP China has greater PPP The only thing you can be proud of is military overspending while your citizen can;t get proper healthcare The
>>718965226 >Exactly how many states did you know before moving to the us? without looking at a map about 40 states without ever going to America. Americans generally do not know much about the rest of the world.
>>718973409 >>and yes, we're the best country in the world. >On the basis of what do you claim that? Europe is wealthier and better educated. He's probably read about the fact the entire world's economy was and is based on the US dollar. USA also one of the last few powers to get Off the gold standard.
How can you be so dumb and not realize we're the richest, most powerful nation. I know it sucks when you realize your country isn't number one, but don't be ignorant because you don't like the facts.
Its perfectly find for Americans to be patriotic. I mean if you're going to love your country, shouldn't it be when it's the #1 and can beat literally any other country 1v1? Probably even quite a few super powers 3v1 and still win.
We have military bases in pretty much any country. Does yours?
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