>>718718703 your ego is useful, but don't be a slave to it. did a lot of meditation in the past with good teachers, no need to go to war with ego, but know it's separate.
all you think of as "me" is just a story you keep telling yourself. but it's a useful story in day to day life. just don't let it take control so that you're obsessed with it and forget that you as a "me" doesn't exist. We are all I AM
What I've experienced myself so far is what I'm pretty certain is an 'ego death.' I was no longer myself, and I could look at myself from the inside. So my experiences have been similar to what anon above said, you just inspect your ego and learn from it. You come out of the trip knowing what you can do to improve yourself spiritually. In your trip 'let go' and be free. Have no fear and remember that your brain knows what it's doing and this substance is absolutely no surprise to it. Once you've let go of any worry and your conscious shifts, and you will step outside of yourself.
I have only done shrooms once but I experienced 'ego death'. What happened to me is we were outside on a walk smoking a joint and something just changed a bit and I wanted to go back to the tents. Then nighttime hit and I became terrified of something or other and the visuals kind of took over leading to me having a panic attack and passing out. When I came to I knew I was this person called anon but I didn't know who that person was anymore, didnt really know what anything was and all the words coming out of my mouth just had no real meaning. It was interesting to see the world as if I had just been reset which can only be described as weird. As i adjusted it really opened my eyes and allowed me to think about the person I am completely objectively - as if I wasn't me. Word of warning though it was fucking terrifying - the most scared I'd ever been - and it took a good few weeks for me to return to normal
I've been battling with this as well, no matter how "deep" into myself I go, I find more ego. I feel deep isolation. I feel no sense of being part of the great I AM. I feel no spiritual connection to other humans beyond basic social urges forged by thousands of generations of trial and error. I feel that delusion is the only hope of living a happy life.
>>718724992 Because people are getting curious, with the legalization of Marijuana extending throughout the states, people are gonna get high their first time, and pot believe it or not is kind of a gateway drug, to much better things lmao, but once you do one Psychedelic enough, most people want to try more. Pot doesn't lead to meth or cocaine. Pot leads to in most cases shrooms or LSD or some other amazing thing
>>718725132 I love visuals. I'm currently on the come up of about 300ug of LSD, and I'm already starting to see some shit. I've got a blunt prepared for the peak and I'm excited as hell, but visuals have always been my favorite thing about drugs in general. I used to do them because they were just cool as fuck.
>>718725261 you know what's crazy, I only started smoking recently, and my first time was a succession of huge dabs that got me coughing up a storm, but I also had an experience that was so incredible that since then I have been pursuing the acquisition (and one day cultivation) of hallucinogenic mushrooms and other plants. In fact, I just got done finding websites to buy spore and grow kits from and happened over to /b/ and chanced upon this thread.
>>718726018 Indeed, I've had a few experiences with them. One time I was on close to 500ug of LSD and also very high and very drunk and I was watching the doors movie (the one with Val Kilmer. very good movie btw) and I started to believe myself I was Jim Morrison. Which of course is stupid as fuck but ever since then I cannot stop listening to his music. Its absolutely mad and beautiful. I love all music though. Gangster rap, psychedelic rock, folk music. Anything that will keep me company.
u will kill ur ego during that period of time, you can do it with good marijuana tho.. its impossible to kill your ego for real, without any drug, its biological, well, maybe if you get brain damage you can, but its pretty risky isnt it?
The only true ego death I've ever experienced was on several hits of acid while wearing a horse mask at Bonnaroo. As soon as I put that mask on, my entire self and identity ceased to exist and I simply became The Horse.
>>718726805 True ego death is horrifying. I over dosed on LSD many years ago and experienced it. I forgot who I was and everything about myself. I couldn't even think in words, if that makes any sense. I don't feel the experience helped me gain anything beneficial.
>>718727443 actually overdose of lsd is not possible, you probably got a real shitty travel tho.. i know what its like, acohol and weed in enormous quantities will make you feel the same, you are nothing, trying to survive and dont drown till the effect ends.
>>718718703 Not reading this thread because I don't care but if you want ego death then you need to take a lot Acid really isn't the best for that,mushrooms are better. 7 grams of potent mushrooms will do it for you.
>>718727815 ye, i didn't tought it that way.. the majority of the drugs that have a psychological effect, even alcohol, can leave you there, many times i was puking, almost couldnt breather because i drank a lot, and you are nothing, you cant even talk, i was there, puking red substance, trying to breathe, you dont even know who you are
>>718728127 Originaly thumprints were given by taking the glass vile and puting your thumb over the top of the vile and turning it and fliping it upside down real quick. This put a coating of crystal on your thumb which was pessed into the palm of the person ,leaving your crystal imbedded thumbrint in there palm(hence the term thumprint) where it would absorb.This was your certification Nowadays thumbprints are eaten. Any time someone eats crystal it's refered to as a print. This way was adopted because it's more efficiant. As for the experiance itself. All reviever's are experianced with LSD(at least they think so until there printed :wink:) You feel it almost instantly. LSD crystal has an energy to it. Having a jar of it my pocket is enough to alter my conciousness. As soon as it touches your skin or goes in your mouth you can feel it. Alot of folks will throw up within minutes. This is an exorcism of sorts. Like all the negative energy being cast out of your body. Then you lay down and learn. As for the experiance I just couldn't do it justice to describe it. Your never the same again. A thumprint doesn't open the door of perception it blows it off the hinges. You melt into eternety. You let go and die into the moment which is all. There is no you anymore only all. The intensity of this can't be described, but you realize as your sliping away that it's familar.This is because it become quite clear this is exactlly what happens when you die. After an eternity you slowly start to come back in pieces. You feel reborn and a completely different person. You don't ever come completely down or back. This isn't a bad thing ,but it's very scary at first. I won't try to describe it any more because I can't. Also after your experianced with eating crystal its a little less tramatic. Your first one is spent on the ground.
"you" can't kill the ego.. the "you" that DESIRES to kill the ego, is the very EGO that must be dissolved / abandoned. striving, planning, plotting, strategizing.. you will only strengthen the ego if you let it take up the task of "killing" the ego.. the ego can't kill itself.. any activity the ego gets involved in, only makes it stronger, makes it gain momentum, habitual force.. the ego is a deluded habit, like an addiction, like biting your fingernails, smoking a cigarette, etc..
you gotta abandon it.. go cold turkey.. you have to SURRENDER.
"ego death" is definitely possible, it can happen from meditation, or sometimes from a very strong psychedelic experience.. but probably not from 2 hits of lsd, unless they are unusually STRONG hits..
what can you do? meditate during your trip, keep surrendering and letting go.. any time you experience an INTENTION to ALTER your experience, DROP that INTENTION to alter your experience.. surrender to the immediate, raw reality as it is, without without any craving or aversion.
>>718729756 I will reiterate that in my experiences you defiantly want to keep your ego, as losing it and going back to it again is a painful exercise in futility. Unless you want to stay gone forever.
a fire can't put itself out... fire only fuels more fire..
the fire will exhaust itself, if it is simply left alone, and / or the fuel is removed. you have to remove the fuel from the ego.. that means refraining from ego-istic activities, you stop re-enforcing it, you stop feeding it.. you silence your mind, you abstain from the inner verbal dialogue, narrative, you abandon the intellectual, analytical mind..
you stop allowing the mind to wander.. to follow and chase after all sorts of various sensations / experiences, and you simply let the mind rest and settle into itself, slowly concentrating, deeper, more quiet, more and more still..
eventually all of the egoic activity will simply exhaust itself.. and the ego will dissappear / dissolve, like muddy water that has become clear slowly as the sediment settles, from not being agitated.
most people's minds are so noisy that they have to give their child-like ego a pacifier, something for it to concentrate on, so it stops wandering all over the place.. meditating on the breath is a good practice for this. when the mind is very noisy focus 100% of your attention on the rise and fall of your breathing, count breaths 1-10, over and over until the mind becomes still, clear, and quiet.
kill yourself pussy. i've experienced ego loss many times and it has a great deal of benefit, there is much wisdom to be gained in seeing how the ego arises and dissolves. if your fragile psyche can't / couldn't handle it then that is your own shortcoming, stop projecting it on others.. the OP is clear that he wants to attain ego death.
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