explain why guns should be allowed. Pro tip: No absolute reason.

I feel like you're going to make a lot of progress with cause by posting it on 4chan.

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say hi to your wife's boyfriend for me

good idea

they should be using bombs

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>>718264694

>>718264694
mostly because the act of banning guns doesn't magically get rid of all guns.

>>718264694
anti gun laws make it illegal to own guns
lawbreakers don't obey laws
∴ nothing changes
QED

>>718264694
>Ban all guns = no more shootings.
Yeah because a criminal who is willing to murder someone will obviously respect the gun ban and not get a weapon illegally.

BritFag here

I feel like its gotten too far for Murifags to turn back when it comes to guns

Lets be honest, if guns where made illegal tomorrow.. How much of the population would turn in their firearm?

Their only excuse to keep one is to defend against other people who have guns

Which is a bit backwards

You dun Goofed Murica

>>718264694
Ban all guns means no more shootings? I have 14 guns. 4 of them I have had since the Seventies and are untraceable. So even if we had to turn in all of our guns, I would still have 4. In addition, anyone with a machine shop can build a gun, so if they are banned and taken away we will just make some. So shut the fuck up OK?

>>718264694

The same reason why drugs are still rampant although they're illegal.

Wishing stuff away doesn't make them go away.

>>718264947
But truck just got buffed, and it's the new meta for eco rounds.

>>718265206

> Nation ban Guns
> Good citizens: Welp, I can't be breaking the law. Better get rid of my gun.
> Bad citizens: Now that guns are outlawed, I better turn in mine too. Oh wait, I'm a bad person anyway. I'll just take advantage of all the good citizens now that they can't defend themselves.

There is a pro and con to everything in life

Smokeing for example
Helps people reduce stress but kills them

Video games
Helps people relax and have a hobby
can cause people to have addiction issues and sometimes medical problems

Guns are no exception, a gun can be used to defend your self or harm another,

taking away guns would only take it away from law abiding citizens thus giving muggers and robbers an advantage.

Just because you ban guns doesnt mean people wont stop using them

Meth is illegal yet people still find ways to make it and use it.

>>718264694
Explain the situation in yurop then

>>718265348
Don't forget, you can use 3D printers to make guns.

>>718265690
And you can use normal printers to print pictures of guns.

>>718265813
Or you could just fold the paper into a crossbow, and make arrows from styrofoam cups so you can straight up merc a nigga from all the way across the showers.

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>>718264694
You're a fucking idiot. Since when do criminals obey laws? Do you really think a mass shooter would give up because guns are illegal?! You're b8 is shit m8.

>>718264924
Damm, and he was really attractive from the waist up...

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>>718264694

>>718266019
And you could also recycle that crossbow.

4chan. Making the world a greater place thread by thread.

>>718264694
Only guns kill people? What about glorious nippon katana? Ban swords too.

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>>718264694
Do you realize the only people who follow gun bans are law abiding citizens?

Most guns used in deliberate killings are illegally obtained. Meaning your gun laws don't make a difference retard

>>718264694
>What would you say to those kids who died in Sandyhook
you aren't really dead
guns were banned in the school you were shot in
so stop faking like your hurt
pussies

>>718266544

ask australians how hard it is to get a gun

because banning all guns means theres no way for people to get them.

>>718266301
>he
>talking about the part without the dick

PENTA?

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>>718266339

>>718264694
You can't prevent somebody from getting a gun in any western country if he really wants to.

>>718264694
Eurofags like guns only in the hands of their rulers

>>718264694
Cool story, but we would have to destroy all evidence that there was ever such a thing as guns for that to work, also mib level memory erasing. Because if we didn't machinist everywhere would be making them by the thousands and selling them to anyone who would pay.

>>718266662
attn australians: how hard is it to get a gun?

>>718266662
we had one massacre and banned them in the 90s, I'm pretty sure you have to do a test or some shit, and you can't have firearms in the open, always locked up in a steel box.

>i want to shoot up a school
>in australia
>only option is move to america
ez americunts

>>718264694
What makes you think I care? I'd tell those parents to eat shit, get off my property or get shot because there's no other way I'd be giving them the time of day.

>>718266301
It's a shoop, so fap away

>>718264694
>implying that banning guns means that the people that want to hurt you wont get them
tell that to the 77 dead kids in norway, where guns were completely illegal and could only be found outside of the country

>>718264694
Didn't work out too well for France did it?

>>718266717
> implying that a persons body can be split up into different genders
Damm, and i put the he so i would be called out for calling it a she... you just can't please /b/ i guess

>>718266962
Harder than you at a brony convention

>>718264694
Why don't people simply talk about murder as a whole rather than focusing on the tool used in the murder? Why would a stabbing be any more moral than a shooting or lynching?

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>>718265585
this

>>718266995
Ok, well i already fapped to it...

>>718264694
If only those fools in Washington would just ban murder.

O w8...

The point of having guns is to defend against a tyrannical gov. That's why our founders put it in the constitution.

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>>718266328

>>718264694
As a gun owner myself I wouldn't be against a complete ban butt right wing fuck sticks would rather allow gay marriage than be forced to throw away their guns

>>718267157
Yes... Firearm deaths in France are few and far between

>>718264694
>explain why guns should be allowed. Pro tip: No absolute reason.

Guns have existed for over one thousand years.

The tech to make guns is not exactly difficult.

Trying to ban guns further will simply drive them underground, like 'speak easy's' and Prohibition.

If you think guns are a problem now, drive them underground and see how inventive people become in making plastic-printed utterly silenced undetectable guns.

Guns powered by non-nitrogen based propellants.

Guns using non-metallic projectiles.

Etc, etc, etc.

Legalize and regulate. This is by far the better alternative, because legal, detectable, traceable firearms are a far better alternative to the nightmare you would unleash.

Really, how hard is this to figure out?

>>718264694
What makes you think you can take away all the guns?

How are you going to take away the illegal guns, as well?

>>718267207
what's a brony convention?

Did a class debate on this so I'll just point out my main bullet points:

GUNS ARE FOR PROTECTION
Stricter gun control will give birth to a Black Market
-prohibition didn't stop people from getting their booze
Won't stop the bad guys from getting guns
-will knowingly break the law already in other ways and will continue
Guns don't kill people;people kill people.
-Guns are an accessory in a kill because they cannot fire themselves
-People killed without guns for hundreds of years

if that guy had a knife , 7 people would die

>>718267477
so ban knives too dumbass

>>718265324
Gun problem>Sand nigger problem

>>718264694
guns are illegal in mexico

>>718267562
>>>718267477
>so ban knives too dumbass


Then what?

Ban sticks?

Ban rocks?

You see where this idiocy leads?

>>718264694
Moron. There are already laws forbidding felons, mental defectives, people who have involuntarily committed to institutions, from legally having guns. Doesn't stop them from getting them. Only honest people obey the laws. Criminally minded people will just ignore your "ban."

>>718267410
Japan pop 100 million 6 gun deaths
USA pop 300 million 33K gun deaths

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OP is actually a magic homosexual dragon that will fly over American and sprinkle magic fairy dust that will transform guns into rainbow sprinkled cup cakes, but only if you really, really, really, believe. Thank Mr. Homo Dragon!

>>718267410
>GUNS ARE FOR PROTECTION
How does a gun protect you? Is it a shield that stops things from hurting you? Nope, it's a tool with only one purpose: to kill or maim

>>718267562
If that guy has any form of hard object seven people would have died. What, do we ban all baseball bats outside of professional play? Do we ban kitchen knives, forcing people Togo out and buy precooked food? Do we ban hairspray because if used with a source of fire can become a flamethrower? Where is the line to be drawn?

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>>718264694

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>>718267737
It only cost me 1 mana

>>718267737
>>now we ban objects
The irrational argument begins

That is too smart for Americans. These are the retards that elected an actual retard as president starting 9n the 20th

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>>718267887

>>718267769
Japan doesn't have BLM. And, they prefer to kill by sword (yes, even now) and knives.

>>718265324
at least we didn't ban knives.

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If the government bans guns, then the black market for guns will skyrocket. If there was a guy willing to buy a gun off the black market when they're banned and he decides to shoot up a building, law abiding citizens wouldn't be able to defend themselves, because if they did, they would be labeled as criminals for owning a gun and defending themselves.

>>718267769
Totally different society, higher educated,unitary constitutional monarchy with an Emperor and an elected legislature, composed of 98.5% ethnic Japanese. Lets just ignore that and directly compare it to America.

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>>718267934
top kek... this is kinda true. Crazies are gonna crazy right?

>>718267353
They have not been around for a thousand years. The first recorded use way just under 700 years ago, and even then it was literally a small cannon on a stick. The first conventional firearms started coming into use 50-75 years after that.

>>718268377
Neither did Britain, you're just not allowed to carry things that are obviously weapons around. You happen to have laws on knife carrying in America too btw

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>>718264694
>explain why guns should be allowed. Pro tip: No absolute reason.

Second amendment and the right for a person to protect his or her life against those whiling to take control over or kill that person. (See North Korea, the Jew genocide, Armenian genocide and other government operated mass murders)

>Ban all guns = no more shootings.

You can ban anything you want yet people still find a way to get it. Remember the drugs you smoke before making this stupid ass post?
The heroine and coke your mom sucks dick for? They are all illegal and yet there they are.

>What would you say to those kids who died in Sandyhook or any of the countless firearm victims at mall/school shootings. What would you tell their family? UHHH MUH GUNS KEEP ME SAFE FROM ZOMBIEZ durburhur

I'd say nothing because I am not guilty of their deaths, what would you say to the 33,000 victims killed by cars every year? What would you say to the over 600,000 deaths from heart disease who die every year because they had a horrible diet?

What would you say to the 1.6 million babies whose mother decided to abort?

>>718264694

There are 875 million registered guns in the world, no counting banged together jobs and the fact that any asshole with a pipe and some basic logic can make a weapon capable of killing dozens.

Guns aren't magical. Writing the correct series of words on a paper won't make them go away. Banning registered guns in legal hands means that the only three groups that are armed are the government, drug cartels, and religious extremists.

If you think that's a preferable situation, just move to any third world country to see what it would be like.

3/10 for making me reply to your nonsense.

>>718264694
Ban guns. Bad guys like we can't get guns now they illegal now. We don't want to go to jail. Its ok to sale drugs, rape, murder and kidnap people. Glad the bad guys are about following the laws.

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>>718264694

>>718266822
This

>>718267278
why have any law then? If bad people are going to break the law, no reason to have them.

Oh wait, the point of laws isn't to make sure you obey them, it is to establish the punishment for when you break them.

>>718264694
Because even if you forbid, the criminals will still be able to get weapons illegally, will emerge a whole clandestine arms market.
They are able to pass drugs through Mexico, why they wouldn't be able to pass guns?

>>718268666
>The earliest known depiction of a gunpowder weapon is the illustration of a fire-lance on a mid-10th century silk banner from Dunhuang.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_firearm

>>718268721
You sir are awesome

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>>718264694
OP is the master baiter. the warnings are all over the place but everyone keeps biting

I don't get why we dont just make killing people illegal, then we wouldn't have any problems with any weapons.

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No, We need to ban being bad. That way nobody will be bad and there will be no crime.

>>718265585
>ban guns
>price for guns shoot up
>gang niggers can't get guns anymore
>reduced gun related gang crime
>people actually take self defense classes
>American people can now defend themselves without the use of guns

>>718269032
The real guns are only in the hands of your rulers anyways, dummy.

You think Uncle Sam is just going to let some toothless Confederate buy a trident nuclear missile or an F-22 or an aircraft carrier?

What do you think your shitty M-4gery is going to do against nuclear hellfire raining down on your hick town from outer space?

What you have is the illusion of power. They give you just enough firepower so that the mouthbreathers and niggers can kill each other off...saves prison money. But they'll never give you enough to fight back against Uncle Sam and win, dummy.

Crazy person murders regardless. Killing is a human issue, not a gun issue.

>>718269467
>real guns
>missile aircraft

wat?

>>718269342
>people actually take self defense classes
More like
>people continue sitting on their lazy ass thinking "well if nobody has guns I won't need to defend myself"

2/10 made me reply

>>718264694
It should work fine for a place that already has no one having guns.
But for places like america it won't matter. Because the gun circulation is already massive.
Sure, take guns away. But there's this neat thing called hiding them and black markets.

>>718267679
No they aren't. You can own one and keep it in your house, but carrying is very restricted. Also you need a license and getting one is hard. There are also very few gun stores.

>>718269342
>gang related beating go up
>librals call for a ban on self-defense courses
>self-defense courses get banned
>beatings continue
>librals call for a ban on fists
>fists are banned
>American's now have no hands

>>718265348
what are you doing online grandpa?

>>718269467

Those things don't hold streets, building and resources. You need boots on the ground. And guess what prevents that. Guns.

Why do you think America is still fighting goatfuckers and getting nowhere even with their superior tech?

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did someone say fuck black people?

because anyone can make a gun so it is impossible to ban

/thread

>>718269682
Mmmmmm

>>718264694
We have to go further. Lets ban all crime, then their won't be crime anymore.

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>>718269980

You know what holds streets, buildings and resources? A fucking neutron bomb. Eliminates all flesh and leaves the buildings pristine. Only reason we don't use them on the Arabs is liberal whining. But if it comes to full blown America vs. the South, not even whiny liberals are gonna feel bad about some evaporated KKK pigfucker who seceded to start a war against Uncle Sam.

>>718269880
>handless America
Problem is?

>>718264694
I will explain with a clearly exemple: Brazil, my country, here guns are not allowed however the thiefs and the drug dealers still manege to get them, so the one wo you dont want to have guns still have, and you will not. Now imagine in the US where there is already a fucking ton of guns, there is no way to destroy all of them.

>>718270232
>assuming the soldiers are going to fight for the north

>being this naive

>trying this hard

>being this hard

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>>718264694
Being Liberal: For when going Full Retard just isn't enough.

>Banning alcohol in the 20s
>Organised crime fucked shit up
>Banning drugs in the 80s
>Organised crime fucked shit up
>Ban guns now
>Organised crime will not fuck shit up
???

>>718270532

Of course soldiers are going to fight for the north. They did last time. Besides, it's 2010. Only poor uneducated retards are soldiers. So most soliders are niggers and spics, with a strong minority of pigfucking southern redneck whites. But it's still a majority black and brown. And they are never going to fight for their own slavery along side you inbred illiterate traitors.

>>718264694
1. False scenario. Guns are stupid easy to manufacture and the black market for them is already huge and thriving. Banning legal, MORE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE weapons from mainstream sources will just cause that market to swell. Capitalism deplores a vacuum.

2. Even without guns, you cannot legislate away crazy. They'll murder with other implements, many of which will be HARDER to defend with or against than a gun because most people aren't either crazy or possessing of martial skill.

3. I'd say the same thing to the kids from sandy hook that I'd say to the kids who died in tornado outbreaks: The world is a hideous and unfair place. Your lives matter but so does the well being of society. Guns are a part of that well being.

>>718270791
Thats the problems with conservatives/liberals. They wanna just ban shit they dont want to agree with, when it would be better if we were just making a shit ton of cash out of anything we can get our hands on. fuck the government

Killing people as to not being self defense is already a crime.
Someone with the intent to kill with a gun could be considered a criminal.
If you ban guns, do you think they are going to follow the law and give them up? No! They don't fucking care!
Either way people would find other ways to kill, it's not like it's the only weapon they can use to kill.

Moreover it is good to have a strong healthy militia in a country. Most of us know that jihadist organizations are all over the world, any activation of terrorist forces can happen at any moment, any invasion can happen, we can't wait for all our military groups to fly back, they might be under fire or too slow to respond.

Then there is the common argument that a person has a right to defend his or her property. Whether it be trespassers, robers, anything.

All amendments are important. Especially the 2nd one, since it is the most fragile in modern day PC culture. By abolishing the 2nd amendment, it shows weakness in the people's strive for freedom and personal rights. It shows the government that they can easily get rid of laws that do not favor them, because let's be honest... The 2nd amendment only favors the people, not the government. In fact it protects the people from the tyrant of government, Germany established gun laws before it was taken over by Nazis and dictators. Same happened in the Soviet Union, same in Guatemala
and China, and Ottoman Turkey where after gun prevention laws we're established, millions died and we're controlled by radical powers of government.

If the government establishes anti gun regulations, and it's power becomes lenient to a national government rather than state government power, there will be less rights for the people, rights becoming revocable privileges, and there will be great censorship on what we can and cannot say or do out of free of hurting peoples feelings or having different opposing politically incorrect opinions.

>>718264924
why should guns be allowed?
>You're a cuck!
fucking good one, mate

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>Sandy hook never happened
>You can make a gun yourself out of common everyday household items
>Too many guns in circulation in America to take them back without it being a major shit show
>Everyone killing each other in America acts as good population control and helps put more time on the clock for us to colonize another planet before we run out of resources here

>>718269342
>regular gun prices go up
>black market makes money from selling to niggers
>yetanothercartel.jpg

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>>718265392

>>718265585
This. WHy do you think so many people go to airports and colleges/schools to have their last murderous rampage before suicide by cop?

BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE AT THESE PLACES TO STOP THEM!

Gin free zones are shooting galleries and YOU are the ducks.

>>718269342
But then rich white people would still shoot up schools and molest disabled people.

>>718270232
Congratulations!

You sir, are the most ignorant fuck posting in this thread!

>>718264694
Do people genuinely think that image is a good representation of how it'll really work out?

>>718264694
dumbshit - nothing is going to stop a criminal from getting a gun. They don't follow the law that's why they're called criminals you moron.

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>>718271218

>>718264694
I don't think you understand how things have worked for the past 10,000 years or so. People kill each other all the time, you can be killed by almost anything. For example: those cocks you suck could choke you to death. Guns are humanitarian, I'd much rather be killed by a bullet than to be cleaved by a fucking axe. I hope someone aggressively tries to shove their penis in your anus, then you'll want a gun, you fucking nigger.

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>>718271587

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>>718268721
God bless you

>>718271824
Can't handle the truth, nigger?

>>718265287
underrated post

>>718264694
I don't know but what i do know is i am picking up my .45 Springfield 1911 tomorrow to go in my collection of firearms i have.

>>718265392
>>718271401
Drugs can be homegrown and manufactured easily, and drugs are easier to smuggle than guns. So your argument is invalid

>>718267769
>Japan population 100 million 6 niggers
>US population 300 million 45 million niggers

See the difference?

>>718264694
No one died at Sandy hook. It was a false flag. FBI reports confirmed that.

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>>718271842
>no benis

>>718265392
But Ronald Reagan put drugs in the poor black and white communities

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>>718264694
>What would you say to those kids who died in Sandyhook or any of the countless firearm victims at mall/school shootings.
Nothing....They're dead.
>What would you tell their family?
Your kids were sacrificed to the Liberal agenda.
>UHHH MUH GUNS KEEP ME SAFE FROM ZOMBIEZ durburhur
I'd also tell them that OP's a faggot.

>>718272035
Source?

>>718264694

I will not answer your question but will instead pose questions.

Where do must gun crimes happen? Did banning guns in Chicago work?

Think about the answers to these questions.

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OKAY FAGS LISTEN UP
>Ban the sale ammunition
>Niggers using guns eventually will run out
>Have to look to new ways to get ammunition
>Make their own
>Niggers can't do anything right, make ammunition wrong
>shitexplodesinhand.jpg
>Home owners who only have guns for self defense and never fire them have ammo forever.
>niggerproblemsolved.exe

>>718264694
>Ban all guns = no more shootings.
Right, just like how banning cocaine means there are no more cocaine dealers.
Oh wait...

>>718271966
Why do you collect guns?

>>718264694
crazy people dont care if guns are illegal. banning guns doesn't mean all guns just magically disappear you fucking retard

>>718269088
You reason like a five-year-old

>>718264694
niggers

>>718272018
Sounds like white people are just bad at making decisions.

Because guns are the only way to kill.

>Banning something doesn't get rid of it.

>>718271981
You've done neither of these things, and you're sure as fuck not speaking from experience. You have no idea what it takes, and never will.

>>718264924
source?

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>>718272191
But what about all the other shootings? Niggas don't have a never ending source of guns, we'd rather beat ass than shoot it.

>>718272426
Newfag detected.

>>718270232

From wikipedia:

Although neutron bombs are commonly believed to "leave the infrastructure intact", with current designs that have explosive yields in the low kiloton range,[44] detonation in (or above) a built-up area would still cause a sizable degree of building destruction, through blast and heat effects out to a moderate radius, albeit considerably less destruction, than when compared to a standard nuclear bomb of the exact same total energy release or "yield".

Additionally, no, even after you kill everything in an area, you still have to move men with guns into the vacant land in order to hold it. If there are none of your soldiers on or ahead of that dirt, it's not yours.

Also, as it has been stated numerous times in this argument as it's been had over the years, the US government isn't going to start wiping out large portions of its' population. Through a combination of the fear of reprisal that would come from the rest of the world (and yes, if the entire rest of the planet turned on the US all at once, it would be fucked) and the lack of wanting to completely annihilate their workforce, they would not drop anything like this on their own citizens.

All you would have is the same shit they've been doing to the arabs for 20 years, but vs angry Americans instead, and in their home country.

>>718264694
Mass shootings account for a tiny amount of gun related homicides. The majority are crime related. If you were to ban guns in the US tomorrow, the fact is there is such a huge amount of guns in the US already you would only be taking them from law abiding citizens leaving criminals armed. Meanwhile liberal media outlets hype up mass shootings to push gun control and only inspire more mass shootings.

>>718272449
Could be an error for all I know, show me the FBI page anon.

>>718266980
Yeah but you have a hell of a control on your ports versus us where we have the gentle canucks up north and the filthy Mexicans down south that run shit back and forth. Even if we made a law to drop guns here, the cartels and boarder jumping fucks will still find a way to get drugs and guns over here as they have. If we were a prison colony like you guys we would have an easier time controlling firearms if we wanted to. Now excuse my while i clean my sig p320

>>718272276
Sure but I do know drugs aren't made of metal. :/ Duh right? I know an ounce of coke is smaller than a Colt .45. So no matter how angry you get.. your argument is still invalid

How about this, we stop wasting money on militaries and start using it to help people so they don't feel like they need to kill to survive.

>Oh wait, that would be too peaceful so instead nuke everyone for world peace.

>>718269635
>Sure, take guns away. But there's this neat thing called hiding them and black markets.
And the fact that any non-retarded person can make a machinegun in their basement in a weekend.

>>718264694
>bait
>Clearly no one will have access to bladed weapons

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>>718272601

>>718264694
truly no offense here but you're a dumbass if not a gun it'll be a knife if not knife it'll be a rock or something else people will always kill each other

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>>718272665
This, once we get everyone to atleast midclass no one will think they need to shoot up the neighborhood because you think I slept with your wife.

2 things

1. how do you get rid of millions of guns already out there (pro-tip, you can't)

2. since when do criminals follow bans

Your argument reeks of either bait or autism, pick one or both

>>718272828
knives and rocks are a lot less dangerous than guns. let them use rocks and sticks.

>>718272769
Well I'll be damned, shootings aren't as notorious as we think I guess.

>>718267402
Your life.

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What a Gun Free Zone looks like.

>>718265287
Except now you can't defend yourself

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>>718265287
Anti murder laws make it illegal to murder
lawbreakers don't obey laws
nothing changes

legalize murder

>>718271040
>capitalism deplores a vacuum
Tell that to a pedo.

>>718273031
Exactly. Now you get it. When the government is involved, question absolutely everything.

>>718273011
no I doubt it I'm sure by that time you'll be like cut out cut down all the trees crash all the rocks.

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>>718273195
fuckin liberals

>>718272637
yeah true. excuse me while i walk down the road with knowing no one can shoot me

>>718265311
The point is to make it harder to purchase a firearm illegal or not. Not every person would know how to get an illegal gun, thus a decline in gun deaths.

>>718273011

No, rocks and knives aren't much less dangerous, just harder to use. And the only thing that makes them hard to use is distance to target.

But do you know why distance to target is a problem these days? Fear of guns and other ranged weaponry, which are highly abundant and unlikely to ever go away.

>>718273236
OK. What's your address?

>>718272828
But murders never occurred before guns.

>>718272229
Various reasons. Concealed carry, range shooting, hunting, it is a functional hobby

>>718264694
>Ban guns
>People use melee weapons
>Ban melee weapons
>People use tools
>Ban tools
>People use fists/feet
>Ban fists/feet?

Are you following here? "Banning" doesn't work, if someone wants something done, they'll find a way.

Because I can make a shotgun from a stuff from the hardware store. Making shells would technically be harder and that's also pretty easy.

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>>718264694

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>>718264694

When all the guns are turned in people will start killing each other with knives, when the knives are turned in it will be forks... People will always kill other people for money, natural resources, property, possessions, men, women, ect. You aren't just going to shower everyone with money either and solve the problem that way. Guns are tools anyway and they aren't the problem. The problem is control of the populace, control of the resources and over population.

>>718273313
guns are different as they give the deadly effectiveness of knives at a huge range.
guns are literally useless beyond killing things, they just aren't needed in civil societies

>>718273382

The black market will find a way. You know how all you need to do to find drugs is make some friends in the shitty part of town? Same level of easy to get illegal guns if you ban them.