>probably the most 'gun free' zone possible >still

>>717957987

you're allowed to bring a gun to the airport and terminals in most states. im not sure what you're trying to get at?

who knew criminals didn't follow the rules kek

>>717958217
They need to be in a locked case and checked. Not on your person.

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>>717958411

tell that to this dude

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>>717958574
one eye on the pussy, one eye on the streets

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This can be used as a weapon. It should be outlawed.

Anyone got social media videos?

>>717957987
Gun free zones aren't a liberal invention.

And if you actually knew anything about what you fetishize you'd know the armed forces love them some gun free zones.

>>717957987
Amerifag, remind me again how allowing every citizen to buy high powered rifles makes the community safer?

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I'M COMING TO GITCHA

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>>717958411

or this guy

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>>717957987
Why don't we just outlaw murder? That way nobody will kill anybody. Sometimes I think or lawmakers are retarded for not thinking of such a simple solution.

>>717957987

What does this have to do with liberals?

>>717958802
la riots. shop owners with aks and m4s didnt have their businesses destroyed

that's the problem. its "gun free". give every man on earth a gun and crime rates will be low. why? because the one fuck up who tries to commit a crime/mass shooting gets shot up him self.

>>717957987
Soon the gun free zones will be patrolled by armed drones.

>>717957987
please explain who brings a firearm to an airport anyways? if you're going to travel via airway there is no reason to bring it there.

>>717957987
amazing how we can't protect people from getting shot when guns are everywhere. if only we could somehow control these guns...

>>717958944
nice dubs, nice bait

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>>717957987
yes we take guns away from law abiding citizens leaving them with no way to respond if something like this happens.

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FIND THE BUZZARDS

>>717958832
Make murder punishable by dropping people from a plane.

>>717958802
Because why would you commit a crime and how can you commit a crime when you are surrounded with people with guns? or at least one other person with one?

>>717958574
So god damn unnecessary. People like this are so paranoid that they are literally as dangerous as the people he thinks will attack him.

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>>717958982
Get off my board and out of my planet you commie scum. Try and take my right and get a 5.56 in the back of the skull.

>>717958780
Implying I fetishize guns

>>717958802
Implying I'm American (spoiler, I'm not)
also, see the many instances of gun owners being safe during times of civil unrest, such as whenever a black person gets shot and the monkey enclosure decides it needs more banana rights or whatever they decide to destroy half a city over.

Lol nice work America.
At least when something like this happens In Europe it's because shitskins hate whites and follow religious bullshit.
You idiots are actually doing this to each other.
Fucking monkeys.

>>717958695
Alright that made me kek

>>717959087
It never ceases to amaze me how americans are completely in denial about having the highest murder rates in the non-muslim world, and still claim that their weapons politics are correct.

>>717957987
well in an actual gun free zone there would be no guns

>>717959203
is that eagle obese?

>>717958982
You have enough control.
the problem? not enough people use their right to keep them and honestly the public more safe.

>>717958574
He is literally outside of baggage check in the photo.

>>717957987
>>717957987

>because libs don't understand that when you have a zone with zero guns allowed, it just invites people with guns to kill
>a literal zone where you know no one can fight back
>WHATS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN

>HURRR THE POLICE WILL STOP THEM
>yeah it worked REAL well this time

>>717959203
the only path to a truly utopian society is communism

>>717958893
It doesn't, but getting them mad is hilarious, and to do it is easy as 1, 2, 3... all you need to do is say that their logic is flawed and viola.

So far this thread is kind of holding true to that theorem.

>>717959249
yea but remember. we're also one of the largets countries in the world. comparitivly there's going to be a lot more people killing eachother.

>>717959362

>communism

Ask Russia how that worked out for them

>>717959281
Nah son. Normal sized eagle. Just blown up

>>717957987
They aren't supposed to work, they are suppose to help disarm the populace. Every good Marxist liberal turd knows that, silly.

>>717959195

but thats the thing. gun rights activists are so freaked out about their freedom to carry, they insist they need to carry their firearms everywhere.

and this was to counter OPs original point of airports being "the most gun free zone" in the US or that you need to have it locked away -- neither statements are true .. so why are we surprised when there's a shooter at the airport?

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>>717958802
Because high powered rifles are the least used type of firearm used for murder. This is "assault rifles" plus regular hunting rifles. If "assault rifles" had their own class it would be even lower because hunting rifles are counted with them.

Punching and kicking, blunt objects, knives, and, shotguns, and pistols are all used more. But for some reason the focus is always on evil baby killing military style, fully semi--automatic, high capacity assault clip magazine equipped, high powered, "assault rifles".

Sorry if I missed one of the buzzwords you bed wetting pussies use to describe rifles.

Sauce: The FBI
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls

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>>717959249
Not Americans. Niggers.
6% of our population, Black males, commit half of all murders in the US. Take black crime out of our stats, and our country is statistically just as good as any Yuropoor bootlicker's country.

>>717959400
hurr durr i dont see mass Shooting in China you merican burger eating fat boy

>>717957987
Dude there are tons of guns in Florida.... we even have the stand your ground law lol....

>>717959362
>>717959448
Ask literally any form of commie bullshit that's existed and see how that worked out. Democratic republic with free market/trade is the only way for true happiness to grow.

>>717957987
lets say for instance you have a shooter like today, but a citizen who is carrying a firearm shoots back. with all the confusion, who is to say someone else doesn't get hurt? when people start running around and shots are being fired i just think confusion would lead to more accidents. hence the gun free zone.

>>717959593
if its done right.... yea....

>>717959448
Seeing as they don't have a +17 trillion $ debt and people starting riots because the cops did their job, I'd say pretty fucking well tbh

>>717959030
not that i'm saying we should take everyones guns away but how often do law abiding citizens respond to this?

>>717959541
He was referring to an airport anon. Only a retard would think florida is gun free.

>>717959400
Wow, dubs of reason. I was expecting/hoping a rant.
None the less, you guys have a proportional much higher homicide rate than most european countries. You cant possibly tell me that if all guns were removed tomorrow, that your country would be a more unsafe place.

>>717959593
nah, we just don't have the technology to have a truly communist society yet, but we're almost there what with lab grown meat, gmo foods and 3d printing, soon communist paradise will become reality.

>>717959249

But Oni-chan we 1/100th the violent crime rates of Europe. Maybe you don't need guns to kill people, baka.

>>717959654
So much better to just let the shooter do as he pleases until the cops show up....... with guns?

>the whole of USA is a 'murder free' zone
>still has 16.000 murders per year

OP, tell me again how a ban of murder is supposed to work?

>>717959670
BLM doesn't have any thing to do with democracy vs commie. that's just blacks not understanding they do infact have equal rights. and refuse to work to get out of the rock bottom.

>>717959509
So what youre saying is that its not the gun laws that are retarded, but Americans.

Good to know.

>>717959668
>Muh form of communism work guise. seriously.

Communism in practice doesn't work. period. Even on paper it's weak system drawn up by a person that doesn't understand the intricacy of running a nation.

>>717959670

>+17 trillion
>+17

Nigger are you retarded.

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>>717959249
>It never ceases to amaze me how americans are completely in denial about having the highest murder rates in the non-muslim world, and still claim that their weapons politics are correct.

It never ceases to amaze me how liberals always want to talk about how bad guns are, but then turn around and scream "racist" when anybody digs into the stats a little further.

>>717959839
I was reffering to open market etc with my statment dumb fuck.

>>717959817
comparing democracy and communism is like comparing apples and brocolli, they're not the same thing. and you'll never make everyone happy in a capitalist society.

>>717957987
typically they dont work when gun nuts can still buy the guns

>>717959741
See >>717959593
and >>717959839
Commieshit will never succeed. what you faggots tend to forget is that humans have evolved to move forward. Commieshit is backwards.

>>717959747
i think you're putting the blame in the wrong place, airport security should be armed, not the travelers.

>>717959941
You could be nicer fagatron.

I thought you were being a delusional commie.

>>717959670
We have 17 trillion in debt because of left wing socialist policies, though.

>>717959901
Im not a liberal, but i am a racist.
You have a nigger problem, no doubt. But so does the rest of the world.
Only difference is that the rest of the world tries to keep weapons away from them.

>>717960025
everyone should. period.

>>717959978
nah, it'll work. you'll see

>>717960025

>airport security should be armed
>actually considering arming the TSA
>arming people who can't pass a basic IQ test...with guns

>>717959301
>not enough people use their right to keep them and honestly the public more safe.
Yeah, because if everyone and his mother has a gun, we're totally safe, right? Ask Jamal from the Bloods how that worked out for him and his buddies in the Crips.

>Bloods have guns... still get shot by Crips
>Crips have guns... still get shot by Bloods

When will you Republican's learn? Or do you enjoy living like niggers?

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>>717960101
Nice argument. ohwait.

The guns are free so they do what they want


Liberty.

>>717960187
yes, because if i word my argument just right, you will change your mind and see my point of view, i can tell. you seem so very reasonable.

>>717960109
i didn't specifically say TSA but here at MSP we have officers that will patrol the airport, I just don't understand why you would want a confusion to happen when citizens are shot by cops because they tried to be a hero.

>>717960187
monarchy -> boardroom -> proletariat


Communism is progress

>>717960138
here's the thing. its not going to fully stop the shootings. what'll happen is if some asshole pulls out his gun and starts firing/robbing/mugging. he's not going to have his way until the police eventually show up. the situation dissolves faster. and people are generally more safe.
A person with intent to kill with a firearm is likely to get a lot less far with that intent if some one on scene is armed.

Here's the thing:
You say that making guns legal makes it easier to commit a crime because it's legal and easy to get them, however, you forget that the people who commit those crimes didn't care about the law to begin with, so the only thing you're doing is taking the guns away from the people who do care about the law, leaving them defenseless against the nutjobs who get them.
>I find it amusing how many times this argument gets shown, yet it amuses me even more how many times you ignore it with "B-but"s, despite it being completely logical

>>717960138

Nigger you're not even from the U.S. because if you were you'd understand the basic principles our nation was founded on.

Everyone and their mom ALREADY has a gun in the United States, doesn't mean we carry them everywhere.

>>717960025
There aren't enough security guards to stop a madman from killing dozens of people. I'd like to see how many people the psycho can kill if he starts unloading in a crowd where everyone is strapped.

>>717960300
Actually yes, that's the point of arguing faggot. How fucking young are you? Is middle school already out?

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>>717957987
>Guns on airplanes

Sounds like a fullproof plan

>>717960109
You don't "pass" an IQ test.

>>717960097
The rest of the world doesn't share a massive (1,989 mile, 3,201 km) border with a 3rd world shithole which contraband goods freely flow across. A border that liberals refuse to enforce, because that would be racist.

What good does banning anything do when the black market can openly transport goods from a 3rd world drug cartel controlled shithole?

The black market will fill any demand that exists and is illegal. There will always be a market for drugs and guns among criminals. Banning guns and having open borders will work as well as banning drugs and having open borders has worked.

>>717959847
?
America has an estimated debt of over 17 Trillion USD. I don't know the actual number, only that it can only possibly be higher than 17 trillion. Are you feeling okay anon?

>>717959339
but once you've gotten that far with a locked and loaded fully automatic rifle, does that really stop you?

The thing with gun liberals is that all their arguments can be used for nuclear bombs as well.
But when asked if everyone should be allowed to own nuclear warheads 95% of them say no.

>>717959509
Nuclear bombs are the least used type of weapon for murder. We should allow everyone to have nuclear bombs if everyone had them no one would use them.

>>717960391
well considering he could just open a door and spray he is going to get someone. I don't think you're a macho man where you would instantly turn to the gunfire and start shooting. human instinct would say you would run initially.

>>717959041
This.....i could get behind.....or underneath with a gopro......gopro on head of perp as well...

Let's get Carlin back from the dead to aplaud your idea sir!

>>717960391
>a crowd where everyone is strapped
If he took a guerilla approach I bet he could get several by standers to shoot each other.

>>717960495

>still not getting basic principles of english formatting
>wants to talk about the debt in the U.S.

Alright bud, go run along and play outside.

>>717959901
correlation with race is also a correlation with poverty, statistics involve arrests subject to police enforcement bias and don't include people that get away with it, blah blah blah....

tl;dr, infographic is worthless

>>717960339
Communism is complacency. It's sitting around being misarble because why should you even work hard if there is no reward or incentive to improve yourself. Which is the whole human condition, constant improvement. That's the whole point of evolution. That's why successful males and females spread their genes and failures didn't. Capitalism prospered and communism failed. Simple.

>>717959781
It doesn't and that's the point you inbred dipshit

>>717960546
run for cover. grab your gun. shoot back. save lives by killing a mass murder before he takes more lives.

>>717960427
it's only the point of arguing if the person you are arguing with has an open mind and is willing to see things from another's point of view. I've spoken with enough self-assured people to know when they're not looking to learn new things and just want to yell and scream about how wrong and stupid someone else is. why would I try to convince you of something you will never believe.

>>717960631
poor white people don't go around raping, killing, and looting. They're too busy working to do that shit. There's your correlation. Work. Niggers don't. Whites do.

>>717960537
That is a dishonest comparison and you know it. It is sad that retards like you think this is a valid argument. It's even more sad that this is one of the most common points I hear anti-gun retards make.

If that's the best you go then it reflects poorly on you. Why can't you talk about firearms? Why do you have to draw ridiculous analogies and metaphors that are ridiculous in order to try to prove your point?

>>717960466
Its time you adress the real problem then, instead of making everything worse by giving everyone weapons.

If theres a guy running around setting fire to houses, you dont hand out fire extinguishers, you get rid of the guy.
(Shoot him with your weapons:P)

>>717960691
but the president has too many guards

>>717960690
And that's my point.

Apply the same logic on OP's post.

>>717958587
>>717958627
>>717958668
>>717958694
>>717958734
All that trigger discipline.

>>717960631

>leftist cuck outta nowhere
>correlation with race is a correlation with poverty
>implying poverty is a valid excuse for crime
>involve arrests subject to police enforcement bias
>"Tyrone did you rob that store...we have you on tape"
>"Nah nigga that bitch lyin"
>k
>don't include people that get away with it
>implying that even matters in this context

You libs sure hate statistics.

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is faith in christ

>>717960752
Why are you assuming that you know how I view the world? You're closing your mind before you've even began. Maybe have a little hope before you fail faggot. Now I'm not gonna listen. Not because I don't want to, but because I've got better things to do than argue with a sad, miserable commie wannabe.

>>717960821
That being said, you cant blame everything on the south americans. You just cant.

>>717960631
Thanks for bringing this up.

It's a fact that there are far more whites under the poverty line in the USA. It's a fact that there are more whites on government assistance in the USA.

So, if what you said is true and that crime and murder rates correlate with poverty, why isn't the race with the most people in poverty responsible for the most murders?

Race is the highest correlating factor with murder, not income. That is a fact.

>>717960341
>here's the thing. its not going to fully stop the shootings.
Funny, you seem to understand this concept when talking about gun freedom, but not in the OP.

No law is 100% effective. Agreed. But I would like to walk around knowing that the likelihood of someone having a gun and wanting to do me harm is extremely low.

Guns should be banned completely. Only Police should have them.

>>717960666
except that there will always be people who continue to improve themselves because that's what life is all about. not everyone is motivated by money, some people are motivated by improvement, and they will still exist in a communist state

>>717960454
You see, you're misinterpreting the post you moron.

An airport is generally speaking one of the only places where the only people who would ever have guns are official members of security staff. An airport therefore is an almost perfect example of a "gun free zone", and it is STILL subject to mass shootings.

The point was, how then, would making a University campus a gun free zone help in any way to stem mass shootings in universities/schools?

>>717960896
It's like conservatives are merely piles of scapegoats

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>>717959249
You wat?

>>717961010
No they don't. maybe go read a fucking book on communism.

>>717960943
how bout the way you write about shit communism this and fuck communism that and fuck shit this and fuck shit that. don't act like you're all intellectual debate now, when you just spent the last twenty minutes spewing nothing but shit through your keyboard.

>>717960546
Well of course he's gonna get "someone". I could drop kick an old lady walking out of target and there's not a single thing anyone can do about until after the fact. But should everyone just hide and let me kick 7 or 8 more until security arrives or do you think someone ought to tackle me and beat me senseless first? The scenario is exactly the same if I'm a terrorist with a gun at an airport.

>>717960626
Did you understand it though? If so then shut the fuck up and formulate an actual argument before you open your drivel spewing shit-hole that has somehow replaced your mouth.

>>717961055
It's like liberals are merely piles of strawmen

>>717961055

>its like we look at statistics for what they are

ftfy

>>717960545
Why do you people always default to the strawman nuke argument?
Like every single time? Nuke have nothing to do with any argument.

Crazy idea: don't let ANYONE have guns, no-one gets shot. I know, madness.

>>717959087
This makes sense, but in the context of mass shooters, they're pretty much all ready to die.

>>717959539
No shit, idiot. They use knives instead, just like aussies.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/asia/china-kindergarten-knife-attack/

>hurrr durr we don't have mass shootings because we don't have guns, just conveniently ignore the dozens of knife attacks that happen on a regular basis

You literally just made the point for responsible gun owners. It's PEOPLE that's the problem, NOT the guns. For fuck's sake, think for yourself for once in your life you brainwashed mtv watching faggots.

>>717961008
and you know what the best way to do that is? carry one your self. look. no matter what there is a tiny chance some one would want to kill you with a weapon. so carry one on you or have more people carry on them. so that person will be more intimidated before guns are drawn to do the crime

The idea of giving every one a weapon is more of an intimidation factor than any thing. even if every one has guns some one can kill a few people before getting put down. but. giving that power to every one makes it less likely to happen from the intimidation alone.

If you were desperate. would you rob a store knowing no one was armed? or knowing every one was.

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>>717961162
>His feeling get hurt over mean words
How's your safespace doing buddy?

Baggage claim ain't gun free dude, main terminal past security is. Anyone can walk around with a gun outside of security

>>717960783
I call BS on that.
I've never heard it and I just though of it reading the bone-old argument a few posts up that "if everyone had guns everyone would be safe" - making me thinking about the MAD doctrine.

So yeah, the "dishonest" comparison fully on purpose. To point out how stupid and not applicable that logic is on handheld firearms.

>>717960631
>>717960987
Poor white people don't have anywhere near the crime rates of poor black people

>>717961237

>haha yeah lets take away everyones guns and only let the government have them
>that's never turned out bad before
>oh wait...

>>717961136
oh, is this your way of arguing then, this is your great intellectual debate. "nuh-uh! you're dumb" fuck off, if you can't answer my actual rebuttals, then don't ask for them, toolbox.

>>717960847
I think OP was trying to say that the concept of an enforced gun free zone is ridiculous though because the issue lies outside of where guns are allowed or not. Not that guns should be allowed in airports.

>>717961237
Pipe dreams are not an argument

>>717961132
Congrats, you found an internet picture.
So America DONT have a problem with guns and violence?

>>717960498
I don't see him getting very far past the TSA checkpoint if he starts shooting there.

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>>717961132
Here is the same data represented graphically.

From the UN small arms survey

More guns correlates with less murder worldwide. The line in this graph is the overall average trend line for all industrialized nations in the world.

>>717960936
Amen brotha

>>717957987
if everyone in the airport had a gun this would have all been avoided.

#nra

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>>717961395
>Implying so many implications his implications have implications
How butthurt are you exactly? Holy shit.

>>717961008
>only police should have them
Every genocidal party fascist or otherwise would agree with you

You're an idiot, your ideals are literally traps. You're close-minded and indoctrinated by the fascist left party.

>>717961404
>I think he was trying to say that the concept of an enforced murder free zone is ridiculous though because the issue lies outside of where murder are allowed or not. Not that murder should be allowed in airports.

>>717961334
feelings ain't hurt pal, it's just like i said, you're clearly not interested in a debate, you just wanna yell at people and call the stupid for not believing the same thing as you. peace.

>>717961404
What OP doesn't understand is that the shooting was not in a gun free zone, it was in baggage claim, outside of security.

>>717961358
>I've never heard it and I just though of it

It's brought up in every single fucking anti-gun discussion online. It is tired and stale and has been debunked as a bullshit comparison 1,000,000 fucking times already.

A weapon capable of destroying everything in a 10 mile radius is nothing like a weapon that shoots a piece of lead that weighs a few grams and you know it.

Fuck off.

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>>717961434
Not really

>>717961529
Whatever, you wanna close your mind before the first work is even said, fine. Have fun being a pessimistic pos.

>>717961012
Now that I've read the OP more closely, I see all the explicit references to colleges and high schools

>>717960466
>What good does banning anything do when the black market can openly transport goods from a 3rd world drug cartel controlled shithole?
A lot of good. Ever notice how things are highly inflated in price when on the black market due to rick factor? Think cheap ass weed or narcotics maid with cheap as chips opium in some garage... easily selling for 10x-100x the cost price.

Now, do you really think Tyrone who wants to rob the gas station for the $500 dollars in the register is gonna be able to afford the $2000 gun he needs to rob it?

>>717960097

And I am not a liberal nor a racist and definitely not a fucking socialist but we have a problem with capitalism and the unfair competition it creates/demands from the working class and the poor.
If you think when niggers are gone white people will hold hands and sing kumbaya you are fucking delusional. There will be white on white crime/rape/murder at similar levels as long as population density / resources / social standings and opportunities for people are similar.

>>717960466

It drives up the price though so your avg nigger of 12 years don't go buy a glock from the next guy on the street for 300 bucks and then tries to rob a liquor store.
You can actually achieve the same effect or lessen the contraband issue by strict regulation/registry/better education and restriction on re-sales but no one in your country wanna do that either

You ain't Switzerland

>>717961628
i'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist, the difference is slight, but there.

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>>717961237
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm

>>717958969
Hunting elk in Canada is fun. Ya kinda need to fly there with your gun, though.

>>717961523
Name one instance in America where a mass shooting has actively been stemmed because the location had a sign saying "no guns allowed".

also
>implying all guns are murder weapons and not used for a variety of activities that lie far from killing humans

>>717960097
We try to keep them away from niggers, trust me

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c55_1456950696

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>>717961730
You are a fucking moron

>>717961880
well, you wouldn't be able to name them, because they didn't happen, duh

>>717961880
Any gun can be used for killing people idiot. Just some are better at it than others.

>>717961590
So read the point I'm making then, instead of interpret the way you've read it 10k times before.

You just agreed that if everyone had guns no-one would be safer - because the MAD thought does not apply on rifles and guns.

>>717958217
>you're allowed to bring a gun to the airport and terminals in most states. im not sure what you're trying to get at?

This is nonsense. Stop posting nonsense.

You can bring it "to the airport," in the sense that you have it in your car as you park or something, I guess.

>>717961730
>afford the $2000 gun he needs to rob it?
That's why they steal them you moron

>>717961597
I'm assuming you're trolling with that shit as the math nor logic makes sense when arguing FOR guns?

>>717961694
>because there has been so much debate about gun free zones being implemented at Burger King parking lots

Nice way to show you have absolutely zero critical thinking skills

>>717961986
Actually no, in most states you can have them in the non secured areas

ie all points in front of the metal detectors

>>717961986
>or something, I guess.
Lost all credibility at that point.

Don't use or something, i guess. It's fucking weak and makes you look weak.

>>717958694
Charlottefag here, I know that guy. He's a douche.

>>717961760
Im pretty sure it wont.
The reason niggers/muslims etc behave the way they do, is because they've been taught threw decades that its the way to behave.
Religion says its okay to kill and rape, the culture say its okay to kill someone for their shoes. Same same, only different.

This is totally a gun problem guys, has nothing to do with people. Ban all guns, everything will be just fine. Just look at how well China's doing. Oh wait.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack

>>717961963
true, but we can name the places where they have happened in spite of it being a "gun free zone", I personally can't be fucked finding the list because I have better things to do with my time, like play with my balls, but I'm certain someone else will eventually.

>>717961730

>how is tyrone going to be able to afford the $2k gun

Nigger, are you dumb. They do this shit all the time. They either sell drugs to make money, steal guns or get fronted the gun to steal drugs/money to give to the seller.

Do you live in some sort of fantasy land?

>>717961332
>If you were desperate. would you rob a store knowing no one was armed? or knowing every one was.
I would just rob the store differently - i.e more brutally. Take no chances, sneak up on them and kill everyone there. Remember, there's more reason to kill you if you're hostile/armed than if you're not. Robbers won't generally kill if they are certain the person cannot retaliate.

Why risk your life for mere money?

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>>717958695
>>717958574

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>>717962069
I'm arguing that America doesn't have the "gun problem" that you seem to think that it has

Even if we take the raw number of 32,000 people a year, in a country of 330,000,000 people and just as many guns, that's really not all that bad

>>717960987
>>717961359
Let's say I take you on your word on this. Infographic is still worthless.

You would need to isolate all other potential socioeconomic factors and rule them out to say that race is the factor causing crime.

e.g.:
Family history (e.g., child abuse vs no child abuse)
Rural vs urban rates
religious vs. non-religious rates
geographic rates by locality

the list goes on and on

Not saying your facts are wrong, you just cant draw conclusions from it unless you have more information.

It's like saying because most people who are fat eat big macs, if we eliminated big macs we could solve the fat problem. The conclusion is not supported by the fact cited.

>>717960631
even though black people are ~10% of the US population, as a demographic they commit more robberies than white people.

That's not per-capita, that's the total number.

>>717961880
Name one instance in America where a mass shooting has actively been stemmed because the location had a sign saying "guns allowed".


Point being: Mass shootings that doesn't happen does not make the news and does not become documented.

>>717962278
>Muh excuses
It's niggers.when you boil it all down, it's niggers.

>>717961518
>Every genocidal party fascist or otherwise would agree with you
Every modern European country would too. And Austrailia. No genocide there.

You're the one that's delusional.

>>717961967
>Any inanimate object can be used for killing people idiot. Just some are better at it than others.

Again, this doesn't make guns any more dangerous than knives for example. It depends highly on circumstances.

>>717962236

>rob the store differently

KEK. Billy badass over here thinks hes going to fucking ninja his way through at least 4 armed people.

>sneak up on them

Nigger you play too many games. There's no respawn points in life.

>>717962278
I agree that niggers have shit culture and are mostly born to single moms with no father figures and shit family dynamics which is why they turn to gangs and crime.

>>717961986
Lol, I was at TSAPrecheck the other week and a guy was getting arrested for having a gun in his bag, yeah that's nonsense.

You can bring a gun to baggage claim or ticket counters though, just not the main terminal which is past security.

>>717962382
I wasn't saying they were any more dangerous than any other inanimate object. Just that some were more efficient that others. But banning guns won't solve the issue. Just create another block for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves and criminals to ignore.

>>717962329
more white people commit mass shootings, must be due to their racially inferior genes. just using your logic dr eugenicist

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Dont know why burgers have such a hard time with this, its simple.

-require every gun to be registered, and do not allow anyone to buy ammo without proof of registration.
-increase jail time for unregistered guns and people who sell guns and ammo illegally to insanely high amounts so no will will risk getting busted
-if you have a licence you automaticly can carry open and concieled across state lines, which will be very appealing to gun fetishists.

There, problem fixed, and who knows it might even fix your nigger problem too by locking them up on mass legitimately.

>>717962575
Compared to black on black crimes white mass shooters are chump change. :^)

>>717962575
Or that niggers pissed them off.

Look at these stupid Americans with their crazy guns! Why can't they just be commie faggots like us and ban guns because that fixes everything.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/knife-killings-on-the-rise-in-australia-as-gun-murders-fall-says-new-criminology-report/news-story/8abb94fcce1a98675f771b2d183875f9

http://nypost.com/2016/08/24/terrorism-eyed-in-australia-knife-attack/

>>717959281
No it's American

>>717961880
>implying all guns are murder weapons and not used for a variety of activities that lie far from killing humans

Yes, like shopping, checking in, and getting a haircut.
You have to be such a smalldicked nerd to feel the need to have a rifle if you don't live in the wild hunting your food.
>Going it the mall without my gun!? But how will I compensate for my smal penis when my SUV is on the parking lot, noone in here knows it's mine :'(

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>>717962575
Oh yeah, look at all those white people

>>717962658
but a mass shooting is a far more heinous crime than a robbery or even a rape

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>>717961984
wrong

I posted this
>>717961440


Which proves, according to United Nations research, that more guns correlates with lower murder. If what you are saying is true and more guns = more murder, the USA should be at the top of the list and in the top right corner of that graph.

Instead, it is at the bottom right corner. And if we subtracted the over 50% of murders commited by niggers the USA would fall even closer to the baseline.

We have a nigger problem, not a gun problem. Less than 13% of the nation commits well over 50% of the murders.

But it's worse than that. The majority of the murders are by black males, not females, so it is more like 6.5% that does of 50% of the murders.

But it's worse than that. The majority of murders are committed by young blacks aged 15-30 so that's like 30% of black men. Meaning that means that about 1.9% of the nation commits over 50% of the murders.

But facts are racist...

>>717962003
From where? From Who? Guns will be banned, remember?... unless they're gonna steal them from another nigger who stole them... and where did that nigger get'em? Oh, he stole it too? You're retarded. Find the source you idiot.

Just a post ago anon said they were gonna get them from the the "3rd world shithole we share a border with"... now it's "they steal them from people who don't have them". Get your shit straight son.

>>717962799
Sorry about your small dick friend. It's okay we won't laugh.

>>717958724
Try using it on yourself you fucking imbecile.

>>717957987
Liberals, remind me again how gun free zones are supposed to work?

Remind me again how did "muh gun owning" ever prevented a mass shooting ?

Oh right it never did... fucking americans enjoy the 3rd world country you created you deserve it.

>>717962882
see
>>717961885

>>717962856
It's all equally heinous. and mass shootings happen more than you think. They're just labeled as gang violence.

Dumb as Americans literally refuse to look at the facts right in front of their face

Look at Euro countries like U.K., Ireland, Denmark, Iceland etc.

No guns, barely any crimes

I'm Irish and I've never seen a gun in my life, I've also never witnessed a crime or even heard about a crime in my area

Fucking dumbass Americans are literally the cancer of the world alongside muslims

>>717961863
Not too many elk in the airport though, so you could probably lock your gun in a case and check it and still shoot plenty of elk when you get out inna woods in Syrupland.

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>>717962882
You think banning guns will make them all disappear in a puff of smoke?

Yeah, it worked so well on drugs. Please think just a little bit

>>717963012

>talks about countries that didn't have guns since they were founded
>tries to compare the two

Go back to the pub you irish fuck.

>>717962477
>culture
I think you meant to say racial composition. This site's anonymous, no need to code your words here.

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>>717963012
KEK
E
K

>>717963012
European*

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>>717962799
>You have to be such a smalldicked nerd to feel the need to have a rifle if you don't live in the wild hunting your food.
Dont have to live in the wild, I am Canadian and I hut caribou every year and I live in the city. I hunt and a box of shells can last me years, you only need a shot or two and one caribou can last the whole year.


Yea, most people who use the hunting excuse in the states are just idiots who jerk off to guns.

>>717962381
Yeah, Australia's got it all figured out. We should do our massacres like them from now on. What are we stupid Americans THINKING?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

liberals love to think they sound smart until those pesky facts get in the way

>>717963012
You also live in a much smaller country that is much more homogeneous and less diverse.

>>717961986


You can bring it "to the airport" as in, through the doors, into your checked luggage, on the plane.

>>717962941
>plan mass shooting
>Get pumped up in car and get locked and loaded
>"Lets do this!"
>Fuck a gun free zone sign
>Damnit, plot foiled again!

>>717962995
no i dont think every crime is equally heinous

some crimes are obviously worse than others, and a mass shooting is probably the most heinous crime that there is

>>717962232
>They either sell drugs to make money,
If they're making so much money (to afford black market guns) selling dough, why would they rob a gas station for so little reward and so much risk?
You only see it happening now because guns are cheap and widely available, so they're easily able to tweak the system to steal or buy a gun privately. Think people, think.

>>717962650
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED...

Your proposal would not be legal here.

>>717963080
Ireland was in serious civil war for years after it was founded, and guns were common

But then we realised guns aren't a good thing and got rid of them, unlike you dumbfuck Americans who think MORE GUNS = LESS SHOOTINGS

Guess what, it doesn't

>>717963159
You might wanna brush up on crimes then buddy.

Crime is crime. you'll get charged if you shoplift or rob or kill or rape. And mass shooting is far from the most heinous crime. It's literally a 4.5 on that scale.

>>717962799
>Implying that the Olympic Games doesn't have sports hooters, and implying that shootings isn't a legitimate skill to have.

butsmalldickrightthatllgethimhaha

>>717962872
Then his first statement is true.
Nukes should be legal.

>>717963159
What about being mean to LGBTQWERTYUIOP people of color who are differently-able? You inhuman monster.

>>717957987
Guns are for pussies. True men can take anyone out with their bare hands.

>>717963201

>why would they rob a gas station for so little reward

NOW YOU'RE GETTING IT. Jesus fuck.

Small time nigs will knock over gas stations because they don't know a better way. The smarter nigs will have stick up crews that steal from trap houses and stash houses. Either way, crime will happen regardless.

>>717963012
>look at euro countries hur durr
>I'm irish never seen a gun in my life, hardly any crime

https://www.thesun.ie/news/irish-news/390904/gardai-investigating-after-teenager-stabbed-to-death-in-tallaght/

Ok, idiot. Give the shit a rest already. You motherfuckers don't have guns but you sure as fuck will stab the shit and beat each other with rocks at the same pace.

The only cancer here is you, clearly.

This is not a gun problem for the 1000th time.

>>717962941
http://www.wistv.com/story/32308903/deputies-man-opened-fire-wounded-several-at-nightclub

>>717963317
>And mass shooting is far from the most heinous crime. It's literally a 4.5 on that scale.

For purposes of entertaining circular debate, could you list, say, 5 crimes you think are way worse than mass murder?

>>717962995
There is a difference between somebody going into a public space and trying to kill as many random strangers as possible, and gang violence between rival criminal organizations.

Anti-gunners conflate gang-violence with random acts of violence in order to bump up the numbers.

Just like how suicide, justified police shootings, justified self defense shootings by civilians, and suicides are included in "gun death" statistics used by anti-gun advocates.

A single mother who has two young daughters in her home can shoot and kill a rapist who broke in and the death is added to the argument of why guns are bad by anti-gun advocates.

>>717963159
A crime is a crime

Humans have been killing each other en masse since the dawn of humanity. Don't act like this is something new or different.
genghis khan killed enough people to alter global weather patterns back in the day

>>717963352
And while you're busy stroking your own dick to your ego, I put a .45 in your head claim self defense and walk away with a high five from the law. Keep up your bravado it is really scary.

>>717963333
>>Implying that the Olympic Games doesn't have sports hooters

I want to go to THAT Olympics.

>>717963344
well mass shooting a bunch of gay people just because you hate them is a lot worse than just robbing them because you want money

>>717963352
Even better if they tear off their shirt before doing so, then leave with a girl slung over their shoulder.

>>717962827
lol what the fuck is this supposed to prove, its a cherrypicked bunch unrepresentative of the greater mass shooter demographic

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

>>717962411
>KEK. Billy badass over here thinks hes going to fucking ninja his way through at least 4 armed people.
4 armed people? You're a retard that thinks every mom and pop gas station has a small army at 4am.

Seriously, look at actual robberries where they've done this. They watch them, sneak up and Bam! You're dead. All because Johnny gun-in-pants thought it's better to die trying to protect the $400 dollars in the register.

>>717959697
This. Every faggot who owns a gun is dying to use it on someone. And they shoot a target from a couple yards away and think they are prepared for an attack. Meanwhile, in the real world they hide like pussies or will end up blindly shooting and hitting innocent people.

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If the government really wanted to save lives they would ban swimming pools. Statistically you are 7 times more likely to drown than get shot. Yet swimming pools are everywhere and no one does anything about it.

>>717963343
Again, why can't you faggots stick to the topic of guns. Why must you conflate the issue with weapons of mass destruction which are obviously not the issue here?

This only reflects poorly on the anti-gun argument. If that's the best you can come up with it proves you are losing and grasping at straws.

Address the topic at hand or STFU.

>>717963545
lol

shooters. I meant shooters... Hooters would be dope tho too

>>717963521
ok yeah thats great but my point is that not all crimes are equally heinous

to even think so for one second is completely absurd. if it were the case then a rapist would be as guilty as a jaywalker

>>717963485

please provide links that prove all of your points.

>>717963579
Considering America is still majority white, this isn't all that surprising

>>717963427
Literally the biggest thing that's happened in Ireland in ages

>hurr durr American logic, one kid gets stabbed whole country is violent,

If that happens in America it literally wouldn't make any sort of news cause that's so small compared to rest of the fucked up shit that happens

>>717963012
>Dumb as Americans literally refuse to look at the facts right in front of their face
>Look at Euro countries like U.K., Ireland, Denmark, Iceland etc.
>No niggers, barely any crimes

FTFY

>>717963521
>genghis khan killed enough people to alter global weather patterns back in the day

Of all the wonderful horse-shit claims of fake history, that is among my favorites.

>>717963469
There are mass murders committed pretty regulary throughout europe, china, and autralia with knives.

But that doesn't fit your convenient cuck narrative, does it? No, you want to say things like "mass murder" and "super military assault meanie guns" when describing a 5-round magazine. Get fucking real.

Your argument does not hold water. You are W-R-O-N-G. Just accept it.

usa is fucked
>ban all guns -> still have illegal guns
>allow guns -> still has shootings

that's what you get in exchange for freedom :^)

>>717957987
And how more guns will stop mass shootings.. Nobody ever once never ever return fire anywere.

>>717963754
i dont even know how that could be possible in the first place

>>717963560
Yes, but being mean to them is MUCH worse than shooting a bunch of old white cis male scum. I read that on SJW.com

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>>717958587
>>717958627
>>717958668
>>717958694
>>717958734
>>717958820
>won't be labeled as 'terrorism'
>he's a good man, he's just having a hard time and came from a hard life
>mentally unstable

>>717963220
Of course it wouldn't, burgers are too stupid for common sense.

>>717963306

>Irish state was founded 1921
>Irish firearms law is based on several Firearms Acts, each of which amends those Acts which were issued previously. The initial Firearms (Temporary Provisions) Act, 1924[10] which was introduced as emergency legislation following the founding of the state, was replaced by the Firearms Act, 1925,[11] which laid the foundations of the system of licensing that has continued unaltered until quite recently.

Shut the fuck up faggot, you niggers were founded on restricting guns and you STILL have gun crime. Fuck off. In case you forgot, 1776 was when the United States was founded and guess what our 2ND AMENDMENT was. Just guess, oh, that's right. THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. So yeah you're telling me millions of people are just gonna go "welp, I guess guns r bad" no you dumb nigger. Our nation was founded on the belief everyone can own a gun.

Like I said, keep drinking you irish fuck.

>>717963469
Genocide, serial killings, child rape, child molestation, mass suicide.

>>717963530
I'll fuckin dodge your 45 no problem and disarm you before you can blink an eye. After I snap your neck the cops would not arrest me cause I didnt use these deadly mits on you until you started firing at me like a pussy. They'd give me the key to city, easy peasy.

>>717958802
Actuallu the ar15 and ak dont fire full powered rifle rounds they fire low power rifle rounds to allow the user to control the weapon better. Shoot an m14 and an ar some time and you will see the diff pretty fuckin quick. Ctr faggot

>>717963774
>There are mass murders committed pretty regulary throughout europe, china, and autralia with knives.
Oh, okay, provide evidence

>>717963105
I am fucking triggered by how she is holding that rifle.

>>717963485
Gang violence is gang violence buddy. Doesn't need a 3+ body count to be gang violence.

>>717963864
i know that youre just joking to make a point but

a mass shooting is always worse than being mean to someone

>>717960463
kek

>>717963040
>Yeah, it worked so well on drugs.
See >>717961730

Drugs are extremely expensive. They survive because rich fucks can afford to pay the cartels their asking price. Tyrone who needs to rob the gas station for $500 dollars won't be able to afford a black market gun.

Drugs can also be manufactured by just about anybody. How many people you know can make an AR-15 or the ammo?

>>717963530

>slips behind you
>slices your throat with katana
>acquires waifu

>>717963774
You seem to have replied to the wrong person. I agree with you on the content of this post, but asked somebody (you?) for a list of the crimes they consider worse than mas murders, since they had asserted mass-murder was only a 4.5 on the Heinousness Scale of Crime Heinosity.

>>717963616

>implying that if everyone could openly carry there would be any gun crimes
>implying there isn't at least 4 people in a gas station at any time, including employees
>implying they all wouldn't have a gun
>implying ONE dude is going to fucking quick draw 4 people before he gets capped

Like I said, you play too many video games

>>717959901
Holy fuck... LOOK AT YOUR NATION'S POPULATION STATISTICS, then go and look at the statistics of countries with similar minority populations, then check out their stats for crime (particularly violent crime), proceed to view the stats you cite, realize you've been relying on incorrect information and finally blow your brains out with one of your precious guns.

>>717958832
Great idea! We could also outlaw theft to prevent thievery, the possibilities are endless.

>>717963751

Englands full of niggers and they don't have mass shootings

Niggers in general aren't the problem, it's americas niggers

>>717962872
>United Nations research
link it.

>>717963333
>Implying Hussain Bolt walk around in his running tricot when he goes grocery shopping, and throws a fit if he isn't allowed to wear his running shoes to the Michelin restaurant.

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>>717963946
I am triggered you would be paying more attention to the gun than a naked woman

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>>717963919
>Nothing personnel, kid

>>717963898
Im a NIRA supporter guns are still easy to comeby faggot esp in NI idk bout the republic tho

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>>717964041
>KEK
>E
>K

>>717963898
Again, if the guns arent the problem, then retarded Americans are.
Your choice.

>>717963884
Stupidity does not come into it, your proposal would be illegal here.

>>717964040
>How many people you know can make an AR-15 or the ammo?
My neighbor makes his own ammo, this is the land of the free not some europoor shithole