Mexicans are angry about the rising dollar The Mexican peso’s

>>717931868
But depreciating currency also boosts Mexican exports abroad and as a result more factories are being relocated from the USA.

>>717932425
Not with the massive tariffs.

>>717932473
I can't wait until Trump annihilates the Mexican people

>>717932473
What tariffs? Trump can't do shit without Mexico imposing retaliatory tariffs in exchange. USA is simply cannot compete in automobile industry, especially since Mexico has a FTA with EU and USA doesn't. Not unless Trump does a full 180 on TTIP, which is kinda possible seeing how he does minces and backtracks on every single bullshit.

A weak currency is the mark of a weak people

But now the dollars they sent back to mexico can buy more tortillas.

>>717932699
What type of mental desease you try to compensate by insulting other people?

>>717931868
I thought most Mexicans were working illegally in the US then sending their dollars back to Mexico?
Doesn't being able to buy more pesos with these dollars help them out?

>>717933203
You have to go back Paco

>>717931868
>U.S. dollar recently jumped, putting a serious pinch on Mexicans’ wallets
they all work in US and the send USD to mexico.. i think they would be happy.

>>717931868

Awwwww yeeeeeeaaaahhhh, just in time for my trip to Cabo.

You're welcome, Mexico. For I am coming to spend precious money on a frivolous trip and do what Americans do best to the locals: tip.

>>717932699
and yet;
a dull edge is the soign of a used knoif

Cheapening currency is actually good for economy, exporting is cheaper, yes you have less purchasing power inside Mexico but its good for country's economy. Strong dollar is bad for USA.

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>>717931868
>Mexicans
>stop complaining
>work harder

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>>717931868
A lower peso favors mexico since it's an export nation. This is basic economics, also why PRC manipulates RMB to get it as low as possible.

If you don't know about economics don't post about it.

LOL suck it easy beaners. Guess you can't send my lawn care shekels down to spicland anymore

>>717931868
Lot of rats are gonna hop the border as that ship sinks.

>>717931868
>joking about the 20 peso bill having George Washington's face on it soon

Lol, they're warming to the idea of American annexation

>>717933591

Noice

>>717933352
They are, I guess this is a sob story for the 900 Mexicans that actually still live in Mexico. They won't be lonely much longer.

This will just make the gringa hunts better. More gringas to turn into bloody human burgers.

>>717932679
>slovenian education

need to somehow scam mexicans with bitcoin

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>>717931868
Time to buy Mexico and evict them to Guatemala.

Show us how, Greatest Ally. Also, loan me more shekels.

>>717933874
sauce on pic?

>>717932679
Hahaha, you're trolling right?

3 separate car companies in the past week have scrapped plans for Mexican plants to instead build new ones in the US. Black and Decker has scrapped plans for a mexican factory and are now building their new Craftsman factory in the US instead.

Ahahaha, Mexicans so butthurt after hopping our border for decades and siphoning off money. Now that the tables have turned and we're enforcing our laws it's "unfair" somehow. Fucking hilarious. I hope half of you starve if you can't figure out how to legally emigrate instead of running across the desert dodging cops.

Start respecting our laws and sovereignty and we might start to give a shit about your poor brown asses south of the border.

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>>717933874
>Mexicans took to social media to blast two television anchors who suggested the rising value of the dollar hasn’t hurt the country’s economy or people’s purchasing power.

If you don't know about reading don't post things here.

>>717934043

Last year when I went it was 16:1. Now just checking XE it's over 21:1.

>>717934429
nice argument BBC

>>717931868
who gives a fuck. i hope all spics starve

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>>717934743
Your hope of keeping the industry is going to be short lived. Mexico has lower labor costs as well as being more open to trade. It's simple arithmetic that the costs of building cars in Mexico are way cheaper than that in USA.

>one of the anchors apologized and said she was reading what show producers had written on the teleprompter.

What the fuck, how unprofessional can a person be? Did they just took him from the street?

>>717933203
>faggot

>>717934680
lillias right

>>717935905

It is very obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

The United States is done being a charitable country. You dumb fucks ruined it for yourselves.

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>>717933477
This.

Mexico's second largest economy is people sending money home from the US. Those dollars just doubled in buying power. What are they complaining about

>>717936497
>>717936497
Was that an argument?

>>717936497
Why the fuck do you keep pointing the finger at me? I don't give a rat's ass what happens to you or the spics, but that's the reality.

But considering you're emotional right now, I guess I can drop your lack of arguments.

>>717936723

We know beaners use proxies. Be more mad.

>>717936850
You're the one who flipped out lol. Come on, spill out some more of your wisdom. What's going to happen in the next two years?

>>717931868
Plymouth Rock didn't land on Mexico.
Mexico landed on Plymouth Rock!

Didn't these wetbacks tell us and Trump to go fuck himself?

Ok. Let them rot. Fucking chinkback niggers.

>>717932679
Its hilarious seeing people totally clueless to the fact that the U.S is literallh the source of almost all capital in the world. They can compete in anything they want and they will win too.

Barry O has really made people forget how powerful the united states really are. Its a disgrace

>>717937192
>Barry O has really made people forget how powerful the united states really are. Its a disgrace

This.

This in Mexican so the Wetbacks understand.

>>717931868
>the other anchor suggested that Mexicans should stop complaining and work harder

Is he, dare I say /ourguy/?

>>717937337
>Is he, dare I say /ourguy/?

I think he's /ourguy/.

>>717937192
>They can compete in anything they want and they will win too.
>what is international trade 101

Start by comparative advantage.

>>717933352
Do you not understand what inflation is? Once the value of a currency drops the price of products increases to compensate.
> the peso is cheaper so now you need more to pay for whatever

>>717931868
>Work harder

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M

>>717937898
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M

good goy.

>>717935905
>save $4,300 today building a car in mexico
>tomorrow new $5,000 tariff appears and busts you square in the balls

BAHAHAHAHAhaahahahhaahaha
I would ask if you know economics at all buuuut.....I don't think I even have to.

>>717934411
I think you mean gringo which is what they call white people. Gringa would just be the feminine version of gringo.

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>>717937993
This is also a gringa, then again his fucked up english makes no sense

>>717937993
Actually white people are called "güeros". Gringo is used specifically for people from USA.

Mexican living in Mexico. I don't even care. Build wall please. Make it so that those "hard working honest people" can no longer leech off your back and instead stay here, where they can contribute to the country I'm sure these fuckers brag being from yet won't live in.
This country is sinking, and it cannot keep going as it does. Corrupt government must be in full panic mode trying to keep their privileges and cash cow, they've squeezed this country dry.
This will either make us or break us. But we need change. On a selfish note, I'm about to get a bachelor's degree and have a business that gives me more than enough, if shit hits the fan guess I'll bail out. I used to be a massive guy wanting to change this place into something worth living in. Now I know better.

>>717936140
Her*. She used to be hot and got where she is fucking her way up. Now she isn't, but she gained privileges, I guess. Just another puppet.

>>717938182
>Massive
That's meant to say naive

>>717937962
see >>717932679

nice projection tho

in a distant future

a car: 2,000,000 mexican pesos

a liter of gasoline 3,000,000 mexican pesos

>>717936497
Mexicans have come to think that they're somehow competitive and that NAFTA wasn't a complete handout to them because before it was signed we were literally starving them to death.

It's sad that think they've done any of this on their own merit, but we'll be back to reality soon enough.

It's hilarious, on the other hand, that Trump said he was going to stop illegals from wiring money back to Mexico from their under the table jobs they told him to fuck off.

This is going to play out exactly the same way as Cuba and the spics are too dumb to realize he's fulfilling his campaign promise.

>value of the peso plummets
>mexico officials begin to restrict use/posession/conversion of US dollar to try and protect the value of the falling peso
>illegals can no longer wire US dollar or trade currency in Mexico
>illegals have to sneak into another country (Canada?) to work under the table and earn currency they ARE allowed to wire back to Mexico
>Making America Great Again

Glorious.

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>>717937384
For any other country yes we have to factor in those things. But America has a blank cheque for all the capital they want. Why they are what our entire global economy is based on. If they decide to throw their wieght around it is countries like ours that get fucked mate, not the U.S

>>717931868
Good. Stay away you greasy fucks. Tired of watching you burn our flag, wave yours and demand special treatment in OUR COUNTRY.

>>717933977

>implying we want 100m more people on welfare

You have to go back too

>>717938342
Nigger, the US can easily survive without Mexico. Mexico literally cannot survive without the US, that's precisely what NAFTA was all about. We're the single biggest market in the world, single largest group of consumers, you lose our business you all starve to death.

You want a trade war? Let's do it. :^)
We won't feel bad for you and give you handouts this time like we did in the 90's. Better tighten that belt, Paco.

>>717938590
I agree with your part that they're so big they can dictate the price level of a certain product on international stage. But you're forgetting the US has trade deficit with pretty much every country including Mexico, which, last time I checked, was around 1 trillion $ in 2015. If you impose tariffs to protect your own industry, you're almost likely to incur dead weight loss within your own domestic industry.

>>717937192

Agreed. I'll do everything I can in the coming years to make sure that fuckheads legacy in the history books is nothing more than "corrupt homosexual who facilitated pedophilia for his friends, tried to push America into serfdom and was stopped by the great Trumpus Magnus"

>>717938486
As much as this would be nice, it's not going to happen.

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>>717931868
Keep our revolutionary hero off your fucking trash money

Will always be in debt to us anyway. Comes in illegal and destroyed our economy in the first place. Mexicans should just be happy they still have the luxury to come and go as they please. Illegally.

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>>717931868
>it has suddenly become nearly twice as expensive to travel to the U.S. or buy U.S. goods
>buy U.S. goods
>imfuckingplying we produce anything
>tfw my Made in Taiwan pants tore from my crotch to my knee in the middle of work yesterday
Make America Produce Goddamn Textile Goods Again.

>>717938725
He will be remembered as nothing more than the man who facilitated the rise of Trump.

>>717932679
Dude, it would take 6 months of closed borders and deportations before Mexico completely collapsed and US Marines were forced to mop up the survivors during the annexation process.

>>717938709
Fair call, however if the U.S is feeling it can you imagine how much a country like mexico would feel the bite then? They would need to come to heel and do what daddy America tells them too

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-bFV8armQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLYILLtoxg&t=1s

WWM
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2197.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvFcURVQCi0

>>717932679
TTIP is dead in the water, are you retarded? What am I saying, of course you are. All the news lately has been American companies deciding to build factories here instead of Mexico.

>>717937216
Here it is in taco speak:

>todos ustedes son pobres perdedores

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>>717931868
>US dollars rises
>The entitled of the world think the US should hand hold the rest of world for no reason.
Fuck you.

>>717938900
The US produces quite a bit, including textiles, you poor piece of shit.

Maybe if you shopped anywhere other than Wal-Mart all your tags wouldn't say "Made in Taiwan" on them. If you choose to buy a shit-made pair of pants stitched together by two 5 year olds in Asia who can barely walk so you can save $4, it's your own goddamn fault but don't project that shit on the rest of the country.

>>717932473

Tariffs only work as a countermeasure BEFORE your jobs leave. Say Trump decides to put a tariff on iPhones, Apple is simply going to respond by passing that shit into buyers and direct american anger at Trump.

The US is already neck deep into globalization to accept the problems that reversing it would cause.

>>717939280
This guy gets it.

Remember the last two decades when all you spics were saying "Fuck America" and waving your dumbass flags around our streets and marching for your special treatment? Yeah, that's done now. Uncle Clinton's been gone for a while now. Grandpappy Obama isn't around anymore to protect you from the real world any longer either.

You poked the bear one too many times.
Rest in peace. Have fun starving. :^)

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>>717938708
>biggest market in the world

holy fuck the delusion. I won't even debate the rest.

>>717939011
If the US felt like it sure, they could sustain it. It would take a decade or so of extremely smart tariffs to build the industry up and later slowly easing it up, but they could do it. But it would be extremely painful for everyone at start.

In the meantime a whole range of products would see a surge in price with the wages being stagnant for the time being. It would extremely hurt the purchasing power within the US.

>>717939189
>discarding TTIP
>lel we'll just build here instead of mexico

you honestly see the contradiction? Of course you don't, because you don't have any formal education to say the least.

>>717938178
In my experience the terms are used interchangeably when talking about white people. Like I've never heard a black person being called gringo it's usually moreno or negro/negrito, it depends on race ig. I know the term gringo originated during the Mexican American war is what Mexican fighters called American soldiers and back then it was just white guys figuring for the US.

>>717939393
Apple is already in negotiations to move their factories from China back to the US

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/apple-iphone-us-manufacturing/

So you're just flat out wrong. W-R-O-N-G.

It's funny watching these faggots squirm and pray that Trump stops making America great again. The tears just don't stop.

>>717939189
Mexico is Becoming China New Vietnam Dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWTp6H0WdMI

>>717939393
Using that exact same analogy, you fuckin' monkey, is that if the price is increase too much, the sales will go down.
People are willing to part 700 USD for an iphone, what 1000, or 1200, or on so forth.
Apple will realized ahead of time, due to their large marketing department that would just be easier to produce in America to save on money.

>>717939601
>says US is the single largest consumer in the world

>posts a graph that shows the buying power of the US (one single country) is roughly equal to the EU (20+ countries combined)

>thinks he's right somehow

BAHAHAHAhahahahahaHAHAAHAHahahahahah

aaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahah

ogod my sides

Build a wall, sent them all packing. Don't let them back in. Throw the blacks over the wall too. You won't be missed

>>717939920
>says the US isn't* the single largest consumer in the world

Our buying power is equal to the entire EU (a collective of almost two dozen countries) and you're saying we AREN'T the single largest market in the world?

Are you fucking stupid or just too stupid to realize a continent and a country are two separate things?

>>717939601
>waaahhh we can't keep leeching off the US and you guys are just big bullies and, and you're probably dumb dumb heads with bad education too

:^)

>>717939801

>Foxconn

Foxconn says a lot of shit, but they're already looking into replacing their workforce with robots either way.

Have you actually looked at Foxconn's factory in Shenzhen? Do you really want to bring that shit into the US?

>>717933352
>>717934286
>>717934512
>>717933914
>>717933896
>>717936497
>>717936586
>>717937137
>>717937216

Listen, you ignorant racist fucks.


All your fucking perspective of what a Mexican is, is solely based on the illegals living in the USA. Which is roughly 2% of the actual Mexican population. We don't even consider them Mexican anymore nor we give a fuck about them. For all we care you can just fucking kill every single illegal immigrant for they do not represent anything about real Mexicans.

This guy has the right idea. >>717938182

Tho if they bring the illegals back (again, I would say just fucking kill them and be done with it) no one will want to hire them and they'll probably resort to joining drug dealers (El Infierno, anyone?).

I was living in Canada for the past 4 years, I got a residency, but decided to come back to Mexico. I have a degree and a post-graduate, and I'm doing excellent, but by God it fucking hurts to have to pay more than twice the price for things that I used to get less like 10 years ago. The peso was 11 back then, now it's 21. None of you have any fucking idea what it feels like.

We can clearly see the mentality of the typical 'murican, perfectly reflected in this thread. A mentality of "lol fucking spics they deserve it". A mentality of "we will always win because we're better and superior". They do not care about other countries or their neighbors, even tho real Mexicans love and befriend them and we welcome them so gladly into our beautiful beaches. But it's true, it's so easy for them to come down as a visitor here than it is to us going up to the US.

And alas, here I am talking perfect English to you. Stating my opinion on this matter, but still, you won't give a fuck. You, person who doesn't know any other language.
You, privileged white kid whom all his life has had it easy.
You, racist and ignorant.

You have no fucking idea.

>>717940441

Still, it is our government who makes us look bad. It is our retarded president who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. A president who was obviously imposed. With stupid reforms signed like they were candy. Gas went up 20% yesterday and the whole country went bazonkers, protesting. This shit has got to stop.

>>717931868
>Mexican economists

>>717940441
sounds like you have it easy too fuccboi

>>717940416
>implying the only benefit a factory produces is a workforce "cuz robots"
>implying tax revenue isn't a thing
>implying the US doesn't have it's own standards and regulations for how factories are built, maintained, and ran.

Yeah, because there are so many factories in the US with suicide nets around them just like Shenzhen. How fucking stupid are you exactly?

"Foxconn says a lot of shit so it doesn't matter"

Are you for real? Ahahaha. You idiots can't even come up with a tangible rebuttal at this point.

It's happening. Deal with it.

Better yet, tell me why you, as an individual, are AGAINST bringing factories back to America? Because you want to believe the narrative that Trump is a terrible Pres when he hasn't even been sworn in yet? Because you're a globalist? Because you're not American? What is your beef with bringing this stuff back to the US exactly?

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>>717939601
the EU is dead; i think you proved his point

>>717932604
Underrated

>>717932679
Retaliatory tariffs from Mexico? Oh no! What ever shall we do?

>>717940441
Look at this asshole ready to throw his own countrymen against the wall and blow their brains out all because his bread went from $4 to $8.

What a shitbag this clown is. And Americans are the bad guys? Fuck outta here, taco. Go cry at a donkey show or some shit.

>>717939878

>the sales will go down

Apple has already reached saturation in the US. Most of their efforts in the past years have been at growing in foreign markets. The US hold very little leverage over Apple. You think Obama didn't try? Steve Jobs told him personally it's not gonna happen.

One of the most basic economic notions is the capital/labor substitution. Trump is only going to convince Apple to move back if he manages to make american labor cheaper than chinese. Here's the problem with competing against the chinese: it's a dictatorship over there. Whatever fiscal incentive and labor/environmental deregulation Trump can offer, they can double down on it no questions asked, because a dictator doesn't have to answer to petty congressmen, they just do.

>>717940843

I did not have it easy, friend.

I studied my ass off, I worked my ass off. I applied myself.

I studied to maintain my grades. Graduated with honors. I applied for a post-graduate in Canada where they gave me a scholarship. Went there and applied for a work permit. Got an awesome job, then applied for residency and they granted me.
I missed my country and my family so I came back.

But none of you have any fucking idea what this means when you have it all served in a silver platter. All this hard work so easily disregarded by the complete and utter chaos managed by the government. And a generalization made by an entire nation based on the small amount of illegal Mexicans living in the US, just because the new president-elect made people like you have their attention directed at them.

>>717941209

Did you even read my post, little buddy?

A fellow "countrymen" wouldn't abandon his country. The moment they leave their country, they cease to be a part of it. They don't have papers.
They technically cease to exist. They chose to leave. We don't want them back.
It's not a concept you would understand I take it? You're just blabbering insults like a baboon, because that's exactly what people like you do to make them feel good about their pathetic lives.

>>717941246
Don't beat yourself over it man, there will always be some dribbling spastic yelling dumb shit until he steps out of his front door and gets it in the ass.

>>717933612
underrated

>>717939601

dog, wheres Mexico on this graph? that's this niggas point xD

>>717931868
>Living in a third world country.
>Expecting the good life.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS????
IT'S AMAZING
Trump can negotiate a deal which reduces the price of goods for trade with mexico ONLY, AND THE MEXICANS PAY FOR THE WALL.
SHORT TERM WALL INVESTMENT VS LONG TERM DECREASED PRICES OF GOODS FOR TRADE.
>THIS KEEPS MEXICO AND AMERICA IN GOOD RELATIONS AND ALLOWS THE WALL TO LITERALLY BE PAYED FOR BY MEXICO JUST LIKE TRUMP WANTED.
OH MY FUCKING GOD.

>>717941456
>leaves Mexico for years
>comes back
>milk is now $6 gallon
>wants to shoot fellow Mexican for leaving for a year or two "bcuz inflation"
>Americans are the pathetic ones

Riiiiight, jose. Whatever you say, dirtbag.

>>717941671
>>717941671

It just amazes me the amount of racist and ignorant pricks there are in this world.

I mean, I know that most of them are kids anyway, what's the census on age on this site? Around 15-18? And I know most of them still live in their mom's basement. Also almost know for a fact none of them have left their own cities. And 100% sure none of them have actually visited any of the major Mexican cities (Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City)

If they had, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have this mentality. But that's like asking an elephant to fly.

>>717941019

>Better yet, tell me why you, as an individual, are AGAINST bringing factories back to America? Because you want to believe the narrative that Trump is a terrible Pres when he hasn't even been sworn in yet? Because you're a globalist? Because you're not American? What is your beef with bringing this stuff back to the US exactly?

I don't have an issue with whatever Trump plans to do. I'm just saying is not possible. I'm not a globalist, I saying globalization was a bad deal since day one, way before right wingers decided they don't like it anymore.

The problem is that globalization is here to stay. You can't reverse it.

I'm not so much talking about suicide nets as much as I'm talking about the trashing of the environment that Foxconn produces in its wake. Are you going to bring the chinese model to US so you're people can once again die of lung diseases, water pollution (as if fracking wasn't doing a good job already) while earning chinese wages and working chinese shifts. Or do you have any illusion of returning to the manufacturing model of the 60's?

As for tax revenue US could be taxing Apple right now if they wanted. But I invite you to watch the Apple tax evasion senate hearings and tell me you trust these people to do anything about Apple? Tim Cook is just going to walk out with another tax break because that's what republicans do. That's what your country has been doing for 30 years.

>>717941977

You are this person >>717941209

I already stated my argument against you, little buddy.

>>717942026
>waaaaahhhhh America is winning now and I don't like it
>they must all be racist and ignorant because i'm losing
>waaaaaaahhh

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>>717941791
3rd time you quoted my post fatty, don't think I'm not on to you :^)

>>717942026
Yeah, as I said, don't beat yourself over it. To make this thread worth my time, I'm actually interested in visiting for a few weeks. Anything you'd recommend or advise against?

I'd mostly come for the food and sightseeing though

>>717937003
A wall will be built and our sovereignty will be restored. Fuck off globalist scum. The ussr is dead. Stay poor.

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>>717942432
>sovereignty restored

kek nice one

>>717934743
Its of, Ford will just hire Mexicans in America.. guarantee you Americans still wont wanna work those jobs.

>>717942420

Depends on what you want to do/see. There are so many experiences you can have.

The Pacific beaches are beautiful. Mazatlán, Acapulco and Puerto Vallarta are awesome and especially friendly to foreigners. What's your thing?

I would recommend just being friendly, I would advise against being a prick like 90% of the kids here.

>>717934743
what i always struggle with is that everybody seems to forget how we ended up here in the first place

america is the world superpower because it built itself up from scratch, other nations had already existed for hundreds of years before america came along but you guys literally took fucking dirt and turned it into a superpower.

now the rest of the world, rather than following your blueprint and building their own nations up, just wants to fucking leech the blood out of you.

globalism is merely a race to the bottom, where can we find the poorest people and give them the middle class jobs.

thats not a recipe for success, sure it has enabled us to lower the cost of some luxury goods and now everyone can have 6 tvs in their house, but who the fuck needs that? we got along fine without television. you need 2 max. lots of people have stopped watching television all together.

americans can afford to pay more for american made products because the money stays within the borders, its not capital outflow, so that extra $100 you spend on a tv goes right back into your pocket when the dude who built that tv spends his extra $100 on a product you help manufacture.

everyone benefits when you do this, except the jew shareholders and poor spics. why should middle class america kill itself so that rich people can get rich and poor people can get marginally less poor?

fuck that

>>717941246
>says hes mexican
>american flag
Why are you here pablo? Mexican "education" not up to your standards? This is our country. We made this. Its like your grandpa builds a house and just because you live down the street, you decide to come over, put your pots and pans in the oven, and make the whole house smell like tapatio. You have no right to it. Get. The. Fuck. Out.

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>>717942513
Wow really got me with all those points you provided.

Americanism, not globalism, will become our credo.

>>717942593
You let us worry about who works where in our country, Paco. You just enjoy that $20 can of soda in Mexico. :^)

>>717938182
The Mexcian government and has always been a shit sandwich with a douche chaser. Now you've got powerful cartels to contend with, too, and I sincerely hope you can pull yourselves out of it.

>>717939801
b-b-b-but an infographic 5 years ago told me an iPhone would cost $17,000 if it was made in the US

>>717942698

What the fuck are you even talking about, you slow-witted individual? Jesus Christ just stop.

>>717942593
>lets lower the spic unemployment rate
>lets get tax revenue from american spics
>this is still somehow bad though
kys retard spic

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>>717942760
yes good boy, freedom is first priorieth

Mexican living right at the border.

You have no idea how much it hurts now to go and buy things in USA. All my life i've been buying all my stuff in USA because the quality of stuff and services are better for almost everything, they're great.

I remember when i was a kid, and the dollar was at 10-11 mexican pesos, my dad used to buy me videogames literally each week, shit man, the economy was awesome compared to now.

Now, i think twice when i'm buying something that is only 20 dollars.

It hurts, it fucking hurts.

>>717940441
This guy is right about the mexicans living in USA. Fuck those guys, they aren't mexicans nor americans. They don't represent us, you all can come to my city, or any major city in Mexico, and you will see totally different people compared to those you see in your country.

It hurts, man. Hope this changes soon.

>>717943156

They don't give a fuck. For all they care every single human should be annihilated except for white people from he USA. Sad really, what humanity has come to be.

>Everything gets more expensive
>"BETTER LOOT AND RIOT"
>Everything gets even more expensive
>"FUCKING POLITICIANS THEY ARE RUINING THE COUNTRY"

Please nuke mexico.

>>717943067
Glad we agree. The rest of the world can burn in eternal nuclear hellfire for all I care. Fuck everyone else. Why should I care about them? I don't.

>>717940441
Why did you leave canada anon? I got a job offer there but im still deciding if its worth it

>>717931868
>Mexican tourists

Is that what we're calling illegals now?

>>717932679
Oh no the beaners will put tariffs on us, what will we do

>>717943156
>It hurts, it fucking hurts.
so build your country up like america did faggot

theres nothing stopping you except yourself

dont be lazy, no shortcuts, no leeching off american companies by working for pesos in their factory.

>answer this: who do americans leech off of?

>>717931868
GOOD! FUCK MEXICO AND MEXICANS

>>717931868
>Mexican citicenz talking about economy.
I lost in there, people here don't know jack-shit about economy, most of them don't even know what gives value to the mexican peso (nothing), and even the economist try to make the numbers in favor to them, but the same, most of them don't know enough of market values and also are scared of what Trum can do, they don't know!
So, that is.
Also that the price of gasoline is skyfuckingrocketing, and that a lot of people is looting stores in various states, beaceuse yes?

>>717944006

citizens are not the same as government, friend

if you really thing you have a say on the decisions of the government, you're delusional

>>717935905
300 dollars to ship a car overseas... what fucking world do you live in Ivan?

>>717943895

I was living in Quebec, after a while it just got boring talking in French and English, besides got really tired of the weather and depressed me every winter.

Where is the job offer?

>>717941213
>>717941213
CTR is in full force today

Good, I hope they all die.

>>717931868
Good fuck em. Ive had enough of hispanics. I want war to be allowed into my veins once again. I want to be allowed by my own government to have my own natural testosterone flowing through my veins again. Lets eradicate these people.

>>717939393
iphones are already at a price point thats unreachable without carriers subsidizing the cost for consumers. The anger wont be at trump. What will the complaint be? " waaa we can have our shiny new thing because trump wont let us use basically slave labor to make it" , they will have zero moral footing for anykind of anger or complaint, not that libs need that to complain

>>717944121
>Demanding the government build the economy instead of the citizenry.

This is why they have to go back

>>717931868
It's ironic that the mexican families that won't be in trouble will be the ones who receive USD from their relatives in the US

>>717940441
Honestly you guys don't do a great job with tourism/retirement communities. I've long suspected some of your terrible infrastructure development was just to inconvenience Americans. Otherwise it would make a lot of sense for a lot of people to retire to Mexico instead of e.g. Florida. But you leave potholes in the roads and have terrible social services and so forth, thereby missing a lot of potential earnings for your country. Just my 0.427679 pesos.

>>717945551

You've had enough with Hispanics?

Tell me, friend, which Hispanics cities have you visited?

>>717945533
Why?

Assuming both of you ignorant, racist faggots are not basing your hatred only on illegal immigrants, and have an actual argument based on, you know, LEAVING YOUR FUCKING MOM'S BASEMENT AND VISITING OTHER COUNTRIES.

Who am I kidding, these are stupid redneck children. smh

>>717942678

America is where it is because it played well it's cards during WWI and WWII.

It has given it 100 years of deserved prosperity but it won't be able to keep for another 50 because glottalization has fucked up the world.

Shit is ridiculously cheap on US, so people would riot if they'd need to lower their standard of living and they would need a government that antagonizes with (((globalizers))).

I don't see that change viable unless robots takes us to a post scarcity society before globalization equalizes the world.

Changes in the world order require big events like WWIII an MAD weapons have assured that such a thing won't happen.

>>717931868
So mexicans are pissed because their pesos don't buy them the same amount of video games and sex dolls as it used to.

Big fucking whoop.

>>717932473
>>717934743
Donald Trump the real blue pill.

>>717945590

It's not only only about iphones, think about food, if you kick out mexicans working under minimum wage the stuff that isn't automated will be more expensive and investments will be made to automate it faster.

The end game worse for both americans and mexicans. More expensive shit for americans, smaller market because illegals are also consumers and the end game (more jobs in america) won't be achieved.

>>717945832

The northern part of Mexico, Nuevo León, is slowly but steadily doing a better job than our southern neighbors.

>>717945590
>waaa we can have our shiny new thing because trump wont let us use basically slave labor to make it"

Apple already uses slave labor to procure iPhone materials. Clearly iPhone owners don't care. This is what you get when for the past 30 years american society has been building upon the appeal to citizens as consumers rather than members of the workforce.

The only reason Apple still uses human labor is because the chinese are cheaper than robots. But yeah suddenly Trump is going to convince Apple not only to move into the US but also to pay everyone a decent wage.

Here's how much Apple and the rest of silicon valley care about their actually valuable employees:

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-google-offer-415-million-to-settle-poaching-lawsuit/

Please tell me how much of a shit they're going to give to americans slaving at a factory.

>>717932679
you mean i wouldnt be able to buy the cheap mexican shit that i avoid like the plague anyway? I fail to see the threat.

>>717945651

Who said anything about demanding, kiddo?

>>717942620
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>>717942026
I wouldn't recommend Acapulco, Guerrero is quite dangerous at the moment, but you have a lot of options, it depends on what you like bud.

>>717931868
As an American. Fuck Mexico. Let them eat cake.

>>717932699
Just like the Great Depression? Nigga please. Educate yourself. If anything whitey better hope the Mexican economy recovers cause we'll go back to the USA if it doesn't.

>>717931868
twice as expensive?
what?
lol no

>>717939601
The population of the EU combined is over 700 million. It is about double the population of the USA. China is 1.35 billion.

USA has by far the most GDP per capita in the world. Make fun of the USA all you want. Per capita Americans are by far the most productive people in the world, that's a fact.

>>717940441
You have to go back, your post is a good start, but a wall must be built with more than words

>>717938687
you dont have to scratch deep below the surface before their toxic ideology is revealed

this is why their country is garbage

this is what they want your country to turn into

>>717945919
>glottalization

this is actually also true

These are facts
>mexican natives lives don't matter
>only the spanish lives matter
>usa should've kept mexico and we should've went all trail of tears on those niggers
>see the rest of south america
>rinse repeat
>move onto africa
>rinse repeat
>middle east
>rinse repeat
>india/chinaland
>rinse repeat

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>>717931868
those dumbfucks shouldn't have built a parasitical economy that is based on siphoning money from the US then

>>717931868
Actually I'm very happy about that, because I'm working with dollars trough the internet

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>>717932679
>Trump can't do shit without Mexico imposing retaliatory tariffs in exchange.

>>717939601
The population of the EU combined is over 700 million. It is about double the population of the USA. China is 1.35 billion.

USA has by far the most GDP per capita in the world. Make fun of the USA all you want. Per capita Americans are by far the most productive people in the world, that's a fact.

>>717944058
You right.

>>717946877

And here folks, we can clearly see the delusional Nazy mentality of these kids.

Y'all fags need to get out of your mom's basement and get laid. Like any of you have a fucking say on the global economy lol.

Stop being delusional, you're life means shit

>>717946005
>Please tell me how much of a shit they're going to give to americans slaving at a factory

They wont. But i could care less about apples stock or its dunce hipster user base, American workingclass are at a boiling point. The elites are creating a situation that woll blow up in their face. We arent controlled as much as they like to think. Trump is proof. He ls our wildcard. For the record most of us have no illusion that he will fix everything, we see him as what we voted for, a destructive force to fuck the system thats been fucking us

>>717943977
Oh the horror!!!!! There goes our economy. We are so dependent upon the purchasing power of Mexico that we will literally sink. They buy so much more of our stuff than anyone else. Take for instance......... I'm not sure what products, but there has to be something. Right guys? Porn, maybe? Blond and ebony porn?

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>>717942698
This is some of the most ignorant shit I've read on this thread by far. Fucking Kys bro.

>>717944035
He's not even in office yet and he's already fucking them over. I can hear the beaners in California right now, "I'm literally shaking."

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>>717931868
>the assmad spics and non-Americans ITT
it's going to get a whole lot worse compadres

>>717946777
Exactly. Third-world countries are a product of its people and their culture/ideology. Low IQ countries tend to depend upon their governments to do a lot of things for them. When they come across the border to the US they bring with them that same culture/ideology and want our government to now take care of them.

They have to go back.

>>717942026
Thats cause we cant afford to leave. You are just as ignorant as the people you be pointing out. This populist movement was a long time coming. Have you seen the level of income inequality of the US lately? Its no surprise the hate from middle america rose. Foreigners be quick to call us privledged. Our country was paid for in blood. Take your pity somewhere else. Everyday Americans are struggling just like you. GTFO here with that shit. Im no trump supporter but you dont know shit about americans or what we sacrifice.

>>717939601
>dat graph tho
>proving one burger is worth 2 eurocucks or 3 chinks

>>717947225

>"oh no beaners are stealing our jobs! they have to go back!"

faggot.

>>717945919
We have immense sociological problems here in the states due to growing race/class warfare. This, combined with massive reliance on anti-depressants, ritalin, xanax, etc... is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. I think the growth of social unrest will be exponential.

>>717942048
>Ypu can't reverse globalization

Fick off, yes you can.

>>717940441
America first baby. As it stands, it's up to a country's own people to be prosperous. Is it the US's fault for economic failure, or is it your own country not living up to the ideals?

>>717931868
>apologized and said she was reading what show producers had written on the teleprompter
Very honest

>>717947520
i believe the word is maricon

you fucking frijolero cabron

We are tired of fighting other peoples wars, we are tired of catering to the world, we are tired of the world calling us stupid. And we are tired of the rich fucks in this country getting away with murder. At least the tards in middle america go for what they want no matter how backwards it is. All foreigners do is cry sad crocodile tears

does anyone even read the news. the peso went down because bankers are loosing confidence because of trumps election. second they subsidies their oil they produce to be able to stimulate growth. you see they keep oil prices down and it keeps shipping and shit and all products down. they just cant afford to subsidies anyomore of their oil and must sell it at regular price. mexico is just dealing with what is a natural course of actions

>>717947520
Haha im not a racist. I know the mexicans arent the only factor but you refuse to understand the american pysche the same way the tards refuse yours.

>>717936586
>Those dollars just doubled in buying power
First, the US dollar isn't doubly stronger. It is only slightly stronger against third parties like the Euro and the Yuan. Shit's only more expensive in Mexico because the Peso is weaker.

Second, many of those USD aren't going to be going to Mexico in a few years, if all goes well.

>>717947938

How can a country be prosperous if they can't even defend themselves against the traitors that took over the country's management? Aka the drug dealers? The government and the cartels are one now, they all have access to military grade weapons. Of course add that to the state, federal and municipal police, all controlled by the same web of corruption.

In Mexico it is illegal to bear arms. And all the assault weapons that the cartels get, are brought from the USA illegally. You can go to Walmart and get a handgun. We can't.

Do you see it now?

>>717941095
>>717943156
>>717940441
Are you aware of IDs?

>>717943156
I grew up working with Mexican immigrants pre-university, and my outlook completely changed. The majority of South Americans are good god-fearing people who want to work hard and raise a family. Meanwhile, their banana republic politicians and drug cartels create a never ending system of misery and corruption.

Life is completely unfair.

>>717948483

Apparently you're not, friend.

>>717948529
Pull your head out of your ass. No one is a good person and when we whites praise these snotty people and put them before our own kids that speaks more of a brainwashing then truth.

Lets cut the shit here, most of our brainwashed cuckservative or liberal nation would happily slaughter their own kids before they offended these filthy animals with anything but praise and ass-kissing.

No one is a good person or worthy of praise unless theyve gone out of their way and denounced pleasure, greed and ambition. Without actually doing that noone is anything but a greedy immoral human being with human nature.

I live in the sacramento valley and have worked with thousands of hispanics.. The only ones who were good workers we doing so because they were poor and near homeless and these good workers hated whites and sneered at them. About 65% did not work at anything but a snails pace and the rest where still half-ass workers full of spite for whites.

TL;DR: Get fucked, cuck.

>>717941970
kek implying we can pay for the wall

>>717948257
everything would be fine had they not flooded the country already. the thing is many of them have dealt with mexicans life already in bad situations

>>717947096

>American workingclass are at a boiling point

Absolutely. But their anger is misguided. There's nothing Trump can do for the working class even if he wanted to. The best thing they could hope for at this point is free shit but the guy proposing that was sabotaged by his own party so that two cocksuckers tied to wallstreet money could pretend they disagree with each other.

You can get the sequence of factors that allowed blue collar jobs to thrive in America post ww2 anymore. People don't make stuff in factories like they used to anymore. This is a different world, everyone is still waiting for everything to go back to normal either that's the world pre 2008 or the 60's, but that's over. This is the new normal.

What's more disheartening about all this is that the working class has been conned. The republicans occupying Congress and Trump's cabinet are the equivalent of that brother in the family you know will turn mom's life support off when the time comes. They don't give a shit.

Whenever you hear that Trump has gone and convinced companies to stay in the US what you should really read is more tax breaks going their way so that americans can have more fun stacking government debt while having negative gains in terms of income distribution and quality of living. And this is nothing new, this is what has happened in the past 30 years.

>>717931868
>Mexicans, especially young people who are keen to purchase foreign-made products, are particularly upset about the steep depreciation. -- The costs of items such as cellphones and video games have increased considerably as the peso plummets.

you mean those lazy faggots who complain all day everyday in facebook instead of working. you guys are fucked, your government is shit and you are lazy useless faggots, great combination.

>>717948573
yep mexican with white family and yes most mexicans 1st generation hate whites, the jelousy just circulates their blood

>>717948298
That's your own countries problem isn't it? Was this not something that your own people let happen? When was it illegal to bear arms in Mexico? Before or after cartels? Perhaps a massacre is in order to drum up international attention.

Aren't you glad that America has the second amendment?

>>717948738
actually most do have guns. but in the rurual states your operating in large forest and it is really easy to get away with shit. try dealing with a cartel that owns a whole town

inb4 another zapatista uprising

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>>717948952
easy, start from the outskirts and work your way in.

easy peasy

i want my consultation fee Mexico

>>717931868
Ford just decided to build in American plant instead of mexico. So did the one huge air conditoner company. This is all because of trump and thank god

>>717941213
>>717941213

Lol fucking die shill

>>717948738
Sure, those stupid laws keep sending guns illegally to everywhere around the world, while your own maniacs go for killing sprees at schools and malls.

It has always been illegal, my slow-witted friend. We did not/do not need guns because we are a peaceful country. In our own communities, away from your maniac trigger-happy personalities.

Enter cartels: "Hey we have drugs we can send you, and you have guns we can use." Just because your country so easily export guns to criminal organizations. USA just loves war.

On the good side, maybe Mexico will wake up and start killing drug dealers. And drug users.

>>717949291
Calling someone his nationality is offensive to you? You must have really low standards.

>>717948952
Sounds to me you need a good dose of Mao.

>>717949455

fuck face, see this post

>>717948298

AMERISHITS
>>>/pol/105909152
>>>/pol/105909152

>>717945977
I would have no problem paying more for American made products if it mean my country was swept clean of illegals. There is literally no doubt in my mind that millions of other Americans feel the exact same way.

Your entire argument is "Americans, why don't you want to shelter criminals? You know if you don't shelter criminals you'll have to pay $1.20 for an orange instead of $0.75!"

You make no sense whatsoever.

>>717939601
THE EU ISN'T A COUNTRY YOU THICK EUROPOOR FUCK

I was literally just in europe, and i can honestly say the nose in the air "I'm better than you" attitude isn't just a stereotype for europeans on 4chan, it's completely true.

the cognitive dissonance for europeans is beyond anything I've ever seen. For example, they like to pride themselves on strict emission standards and overall environmental friendliness. But the fucking dumbasses all drive diesels, and all of those diesels give off diesel particulate which is absolutely fucking terrible for everything it touches. Just being around the shit can give you cancer.

tl;dr europoors think their shit doesn't stink but in reality are pants on head retarded

>>717949301
How the fuck did you think we became #1. By blowing up or taking other peoples shit. Get with the fucking program. Its all we know.

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>>717949681
the most offensive word i can think of to describe you is "MEXICANO"

protip: my dogs house is nicer than yours

>>717949801
Hahahahah

>>717940441
Mexicano idiota. Usted es como el azadón, lo quiere todo para su lado y nada para el lado de los demás ¿Está dispuesto a acoger a los centroamericanos en lugar de chutarlos a Estados Unidos? Tonto.

>>717946005
No one said they'd give a shit about their employees. We have regulations in place for that to protect workers in the US unlike chinese shitholes on the other side of the world where people jump through windows.

The argument wasn't whether they'd care about their employees. The statement was they are moving their factories back to the US which means more jobs for US workers. It's happening, that's all that matters. Keep Crying. Thanks Trump. :^)

ITT: Butthurt mexicans because no more cheap gubmint-subsidized fuel for them

>>717946270
The mexican economy will tank.

You won't do shit because you won't be able to cross our armed wall of guards.

You'll starve.

We'll annex Mexico and bulldoze all your corpses into mass graves before building more skyscrapers over you.

Bye bye weak Mexicants. :^)

>>717949824
Not that guy, but im an illegal that is evicting white people in 3 days. Out of one of my rental houses. Just notifying you.

The majority of anons here are edgy little 15 year olds who have NO idea how shit actually works in real life or 38 year old basement dwellers who gobble up any bullshit Drump shits in their mouth.
>Ford and other companies scrap plans for plants in Mexico. Think that's gonna automatically fix the US.
>Too stupid to realize the majority of these companies' factories are still in other countries like Canada.

Y'all just some ignorant, racist fucks who are trying to be edgy but won't survive 5 minutes away from daddy's dick.

>>717950001

We speak English here, nigger.

>>717949821
Maybe this is a sign that, in fact, it is America that needs to be obliterated.

>>717950373
t. some mexican whose ass was Trump's bullseye
America is not your country, Mexico is your country so stop thinking you should decide for other people's countries.

>>717942026
I've been to Guadalajara, Mexico City, and Tijuana

I've been all across the globe, to asia, europe, africa, the middle east, etc

and right behind africa, mexico/central america is hands down the nastiest, trashiest, shittiest area I've been too. Africa only has mexico beat because most of them are literally too stupid to help themselves. Mexicans/central americans know their situation sucks, and know that it's possible to pull themselves from such desperate poverty

BUT THEY FUCKING DON'T

>>717950157
Are you a happy person, friend?

>>717948105
>the peso went down because bankers are losing confidence because of trumps election

No, nigger. The peso went DOWN because people are pulling their investments out of Mexico because it's not a free ride anymore. People are relocating their investments back INTO the US which is why OUR stock market is going through the roof and already hitting historical highs before Day 1 in office. People are SO confident that he's going to improve things that they're dumping BILLIONS into our economy ready to ride the wave up in another 2 weeks. I'm making a killing as a day trader atm.

Thanks Trump. Keep up with the winning, bud.

>>717950459

So buddy, how would you do it? Really, I'm curious to know about your approach on how to fix it.

Assuming obviously that you know all the factors involved.

>>717932473
You have to remove NAFTA first.

>>717948298
Sounds like Mexico's problem to me. Don't ask us for help or advice when you're trying to walk down OUR streets with your mexican flags on some "this used to be ours" shit like blacks asking for "reparations." Stay on your side of the border, fight your own civil war just like we fought ours and sort it out after enough bodies pile up.

If your country's so honorable and full of culture like you spics are always trying to tell us, then stay there and fight for it (and die for it if you have to). We've already done that.

>>717940441
Really, I don't think you don't understand. You poor fucks brought this on yourselves. As a collective, not just you (not everything is about you, untwist thy panties). We don't care about your plight nor should we. Get it together instead of playing the blame game :)

This just means the hookers in Tijuana will charge more.

>>717950611
Obviously, hand outs. Because there can't be any other way. Every Mexican on this board has admitted that their country is a sick puppy and it's the US obligation, because of geographical reasons, to help them out. Duh!

>>717950573
Yeah, up until y'all realize he's full of shit and fucks up the country even more, then he's going to bail with his billions and leave you to pick up the pieces, AGAIN. The only thing dumber than Drump are his supporters. He's not even in office yet and he's already backing up on his "promises", yet his supporters will still stick his orange cock on their mouth. Y'all some special kind of stupid.