Started some shit over in /pol/ earlier and I want to see how /b/ feels about these nigger dogs and how each of them should be neutered along with their redneck owners to slam the brakes on their species.
>>717658702 Until it snaps, reverts to its nature and mauls your face off. >>717658794 Incorrect. Other dog breeds have been proven to be just that, pitbulls are not good doggos. Also: >dogs in general are very loyal >pitbulls need to be trained for that >>717658962 Its just for the reaction you motherfucker. I like doggos better to you inhuman son of a bitch.
>>717658794 >>717658699 >>717658460 There's a big difference between wild animals and a dog bred for working with humans. It depends on how they're raised, trained and treated. Statistically they're not even the most dangerous breed of dog. I've owned Dobermans, Boxers, Pit Bulls, Chows, Rottweilers and other "dangerous" breeds and the Chows were the most aggressive out of all them.
Most people who are defending pits are actually blinded by the emotional attachment they have to the species beit they owned one in the past or have had good relationships with one. If they owned a different breed they would be able to make a more objective standpoint rather than an emotional one
Pits are a product of breeding and what a lot of people don't get is that when you breed a litter of dogs you're getting everything that's behind the two you put together. Dogs function primarily on instinct and back behind every Pit in the world is a fighting dog at some point in its pedigree.
Now maybe you don't ever see that side of your dog and that's great but someday when you're not expecting it that dog can decide that tearing your kid to pieces is the thing to do and you'll never see it coming. The dog won't know why it's so excited about tearing that kid or that other dog up. It just is. It's not its fault and they aren't "evil" they just are animals that were bred for a purpose and those instincts are still there.
>>717660305 Any dog can attack. It's just that pitbulls are reported more. What would you rather read about, a fluffy cloud dog attacking someone? Or a fighting muscle dog attacking someone? Whatever, I'm jsut gonna try to turn this into a cute doggo thread.
>>717660012 Except that's wrong. Chows can get pretty large and have very strong jaws and were originally bred as hunting and guard dogs and were used by Mongolian armies. The American Pit Bull Terrier is actually smaller than a Chow in average has slightly stronger jaws. A Chow will most likely do more damage than Pit Bull as they're larger and more agressive.
TLDR Shut the fuck up you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>717658460 I have nothing against the breed in general. But, most of the people who favor the breed turn them into the physical manifestation of the kind of douche-bag they really want to be. I said MOST, not ALL of the people who favor the breed.
>>717660785 It's not just the dog, it's the owner. Pitbulls are the kind of dogs to get chained up to fences as "Guard dogs". >>717660964 Got anymore Hyperboles, anon? >>717661098 Never said chows were responsible for more attacks. I simply said a chow could POTENTIALLY do more damage then a pit.
>>717658460 >These dogs should be neutered because they're statistically more dangerous than other dogs >These North American Pavement Apes should be allowed to walk the streets, even though they're statistically more dangerous than humans, because they wuz kangz
Yeah, I think there's more pressing concerns at hand.
Here come all the pitbull apologists to tell us how wonderful these dogs are. Thing is, these same people will say the same shit after their dog has unexpectedly and inexplicably killed someone, often a family member.
But don't take my word for it. This bitch used to post youtube videos of her gentle babies. Even after they tore her young brother to shreds she still said they were gentle dogs.
Pitbulls are niggers and pitbull apologists have an unbreakable mental block regarding the nature of UNEXPLAINABLE ATTACKS from otherwise nice dogs. Even after they happen these idiots still can't believe it.
THIS BREED IS FUCKED WHETHER YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
>>717660964 do you realize the incidence rates required to be a million times more likely?
326 Americans total suffered a death due to a dog bite. Being millions of times more likely is mathematically impossible.
This also ignores the fact this statistic doesn't show propensity to attack, it shows propensity to kill. Ignoring variables sure as differing treatments for different breeds of dogs, and ignoring the fact some dogs are too small to even cause a fatality.
>>717661284 Some people have never owned dogs, and for some reason think every single one is constantly teetering immediately on the precipice of trying to eat their larynx.
No matter what the breed is, every domesticated dog is just as capable or likely as literally any other dog to flip their shit.
The suggestion that pit bulls are more dangerous is kinda like saying Honda Civics are more likely to crash because they are Honda Civics, and not because a shit ton of lower class subcultures decided they needed one that was gonna be the meanest on the block.
In other words it's a retards argument who's never hung out with a dog besides maybe the one their parents had.
It's interesting you mention cars, because like dogs they aren't naturally evolved.
Where you metaphor betrays you is that certain types of car ARE more likely to crash. Remember the sidekicks? Maybe your 12 and it's before your time, but those came with a roll warning because they WERE more likely to crash. That happens in the automotive world all the time.
>>717658460 I know this won't change your opinion but I've been volunteering as a dog walker at an animal shelter for years and id say about 30-40 % of the dogs were pitbulls or pit mixed and I've had quite a few bad incidents with some of the dogs but it's rarely the pitbulls, they're generally more sweet and well behaved then alot of other breeds. the whole "pitbulls are evil" is complete shit in my opinion and mabey you would feel the same of you met some of they. The media promotes fear, don't be a sheep.
It's the owners you dumb fucks. A LOT of the pit bulls you see from statistics were dogs some asshole forced to into dog fighting. It's not the dogs fault that niggers and white trash want to fight them and make them mean and then let them bite people. I've raised all sorts of breeds of dogs including pit bulls and have never had any of my dogs even nip at anyone. Its that's over a span of 30 years and just as many dogs. It's how theyre raised and treated you mongoloids.
>>717659137 >>dogs in general are very loyal >>pitbulls need to be trained for that
Have you ever owned a dog? You say "training" like you have to hire a specialist. Yeah it takes training, dipshit, any dog you get potentially needs training. If you're making that distinction, your opinion on dogs is officially and entirely worthless. You might as well mention how often they need to be fed due to their muscular build, or anything else that sounds like a real argument to people who just want a scapegoat for shitty personhood.
>>717659916 I've never had a pit, only a border collie, some retriever/spaniel mix and currently a lab retriever/collie mix. All from the shelter. Living with any dog will teach you how fucking dumb it is to generalize the violence of pits to the whole breed. Like there's some massive genetic chasm between a pit and the next medium/large breed other than their physical particulars.
>>717662280 Being more likely to roll isn't more likely to crash. No car was manufactured with something CAUSING it to crash. Defects aside. A person has to react slowly or overreact or not at all for a crash to happen. A human has to operate the vehicle in a way more likely to result in a collision.
You're the only one being betrayed here, but rather than an analogy it's your own confidence in your dipshit argument.
>>717662766 The difference is in how much damage they can do when they get aggressive. You have to actively ignore all the youtube videos of really vicious pitbull attacks and articles like the ones posted in this thread to not understand that.
To start off I live in a kinda shitty neighborhood. On new year's Eve I was shooting fireworks with my kid, and a pit bull from one of our trash neighbors walks up and starts growling at us angrily. Ended up going inside for around an hour or so waiting for it to fuck off.
>>717663238 That's code (or subconscious uttering) for "You simply cannot convince me." You know, like political science deniers, religious people who get offended that you find their beliefs rediculous, evangelical atheists who don't know they became just like the outspoken religious types they hate, etc.
>>717663313 Life isn't a narrative, life is just life. sometimes shit happens. it usually happens for a reason. For the incidence rate for deadly attacks to be so low for all dogs in general, considering how many exist in the united states alone, shows how safe they are. I'm pretty sure more toddlers kill people with guns a year than pitties kill.
If other animals can be more aggressive than another, why can't breeds be more naturally aggressive than others? If people commonly choose one dog for their fights, it's probably because it's pretty fucking aggressive else you wouldn't waste your money.
That being said, most dogs are very susceptible to training. So even though a breed could potentially be more aggressive than another, it's likely good training will solve things. So really, it doesn't matter in the end.
>>717658460 In my experience Pit bulls are naturally a loyal breed, and friendly with people. They are willing to do anything to protect their own if they feel threatened. They're often agressive or plain violent towards other animals. If they're going to snap on something it's most likely to be another dog.
>>717663313 I understand pitbull attacks happen but it's very unlikely it was unprovoked, dogs just don't attack without reason and i guarantee the majority of these attack has some reason. You do realize the whole locking has thing isn't real, look it up. They don't even have the strongest bite of any dogs, I belive it's rottweilers but i dont remember for sure. I'm not saying that they can't do seirious damage but so can any dog that size and it does happen, all dogs have the potential to be aggressive.
I would just like to point out that 90% of the pit bulls that I have met in my hometown have been chained up and left outside by their owners, and this is surprisingly common in my area. If you have an animal that you treat like this, you are abusing it by not giving it the care that it needs. If you don't take care of a dog, it will be more likely to attack no matter how nice it acts the ten minutes that you interact with it in a day. It's a popular dog breed to abuse for some reason, and that's why I think they attack more often than other breeds
TLDR: shitty owners produce shitty animals, end of story
>>717664112 >Blame the owner not the dog >Pitbulls do not attack without warning or just suddenly turn vicious neither do machineguns but we can't have those now can we? Maybe things that are demonstrably more dangerous (or have a propensity to be more dangerous) than other things in its category are banned for a reason
>>717664289 You spend too much time on /pol/ buddy. Not that anon, but that sort of thinking will fuck you in a professional environment. Get your thoughts in line with society before you get rolled over by the real powers that be (a faceless bureacratic machine designed to fuck you).
>>717664469 >90% of the pit bulls that I have met in my hometown have been chained up and left outside by their owners
That is how you produce shitty dogs.
>have pit >illegal mexican neighbors got right afterwards >they leave it chained up for years >gets free, comes up and tries to start shit with me and my dog >shoot it in the head and dump it in the woods
Aside from mini aggressive kickme dogs, most of the aggressive ones I see are the ones left chained up outside.
>>717664469 Complete bullshit. Dogs are tools. Go to any other than "I take my dog for a walk in a stroller"-America and you will see people use dogs to hunt, to keep foxes and other animals off their yards and pivestock. There is zero evidence that dogs doing that are any more likely to attack a human. They have respect and they respect their owners. It's a mutual beneficial arrangement.
>>717663932 >>717663964 you can post pics of pits being adorable and maybe your pitbull will never attack someone
but dumb fucker with a 6 yo mentality who cant raise his dog properly is what concerns the average soccer moms and the media faggots one dog can pay the price for millions i dont think pitbull should be banned but we should have more control on who can own them but thats pretty much impossible
>>717664752 Compete bullshit. Unless you agree blacks are more stupid than rest of mankind, there is no proof other dogs are more aggressive than others. We haven't been breeding dogs long enough to make a huge difference.
pit bulls are not any more inherently aggressive than any other breed, you dumbasses. retard owners make dangerous dogs, and retard owners are more prone to getting a pit bull BECAUSE of the negative stigma
>>717658962 Sorry to say but that particular family line of german shepard is fucked up. Its back and rear legs are prone to all sorts of problems. All in the name of 'looking cool' to rich autistic fags.
>>717665324 Check the facts faggot. We understand you don't like dogs. I will say next time I see a cat that attacks me , domesticated or not I will kill it unless it's inside someone's home. You're welcome.
You realize that pit bull is actually a breed group right? Made up of 4 separate breeds. So you're saying that a breed group of 4 different breeds of dog bites more often than any singular breed of dog. Ya don't fucking say. Idiots.
Cant be fucked reading the rantings of autistic fucks just complaining that these breeds are not suited to their peanut butter surprise tricks.
Ive bred pedigree dogs - pits, eng stafs, samoyeds, rotties to name a few.
Every animal ive ever had has been amazing to me and my family. Apart from staffs, which are just doughy most of the time, they have all been amazing on guard, despite many being show trained.
As i explained to a dumb fuck abo that nearly lost a leg last week to my rottie (ausfag)... If you dont want to be mauled, dont try jumping my 8" fence in the middle of the night you autistic fuck. Sure my dogs dont bark and go crazy, but fuck me they are protective.
If you dont like the dogs, stop trying to steal our shit. Sure some tards have animals untrained and unrestrained, but its fairly uncommon. Mostly round here its fags that let em out so they can rob shit without em.
>>717664752 Have you ever been around any cattle dogs? Coon hounds? Any toy breed at all? All of those are alot more agressive than pitbulls. I have had 2 red heelers and have been around many more and they act far more "ferral" and agressive than pits. Because they are not thought of as "scary" dogs no one seems to notice.
>>717664752 http://globalnews.ca/news/2527882/torontos-pit-bulls-are-almost-gone-so-why-are-there-more-dog-bites-than-ever/ whoops! I guess it's the stupid fucktards that owned the pitbulls that are actually responsible for their dogs being vicious.
>>717658460 I have no problem with these dogs, the big ones are usually the nicest. It's the small little shits yapping at me while i walk around the block that i want to punt back into their yards and that's coming from an animal lover.
Speaking from my own experience owning a pitbull. She is absolutely harmless, you can do anything to that dog and she won't attack. I have beat the absolute shit out of her when I discipline her. Yes I hit her, she doesn't growl let alone attack. She's obidenit.
>>717658702 it's pretty funny, i got a 3 year old girl and a 1 year old pocket sized....sweetest girls i've met, never hurt anyone get's along great with kids. people still move well outta the way when walking on the street...never understood it lol
Alot of people get the breed to be a guard dog due to the stigma of it being mean and vicious. Then they chain it up in a yard and don't treat it right or even attempt to raise it. Then when and if it bites it's the dogs fault and not the owner who's treated and raised it like shit.
>>717658460 >Started some shit over in /pol/ earlier and I want to see how /b/ feels about these nigger dogs and how each of them should be neutered along with their redneck owners to slam the brakes on their species. >i think the genocidal maniac that started this thread need to be nutered
Bottom line is it's a dog that's been bred to fight and kill. Whether individual pets seem sweet or soft is irrelevant. They have extreme violence in their DNA, by design.
Take a look at the long list of kids brutally killed by this specific breed over the years. It'll be a similar number this year. Go tell those kids parents that your desire to own a certain breed of fucking pet dog is more important then those kids right to life.
>>717667376 I take it she's your first dog. You'd have to be acctuly retarded to think beating a dog makes it obedient, it makes it not trust you and over time mistrust and fear can and will turn into aggression. Do some research and stop being a stupid cunt.
>>717667587 You're a fucking idiot. That's not what they were bred for. There is no breed of dog that was specifically bred for that. Most dogs were bred to help hunt or guard. Pit bull terriers were bred to bait bulls and bears so humans could kill them while the dog distracted them.
Great dog for a (responsible) owner and not only just let the dog shit and eat this is a terrier breed being hi energy and higher prey drive and doubly so because a history of bullbaiting/fighting. so must be worked and highly advisable to socialize in all situations possible
>>717664990 No, It us not impossible, In fact there are many countries that dont allow the general public to own pitbulls unless they are trained personal (military, police men) or have a license to train dogs.
Pit bulls are only good for dog fighting. It's what they were bred for and can't be trained out of them. They are also the breed most likely to attack and kill people. People who have owned them all their lives have been attacked and killed by them for no apparent reason.
Unless you own an illegal dogfighting ring, there's no reason to own/breed them. Pit bull owners are usually niggers and they're invariably all retards.
Whenever I see a video of a pit bull being killed I feel a happy glowing feeling inside.
>>717658460 Those dindus should be mass butchered and consumed by the Chineese. Some sadistic dog experiments on livestream for pure entertainment. Caged in with a hungry bear on camera. All I can think of is to hug the dog and unexpexted stick the full lenght of a dagger in its eyelid.
>>717668148 >>717668148 No they weren't, they were bred for baiting. People started fighting them because baiting was made illegal you fuck tard. Mastiffs weren't either. Molossus, what mastiff are descended from, were used by the Romans as war dogs but that's not what they were bred for either, they were bred for hunting and herding. The Romans put armor on them and chased them in to the enemy to cause panic in the ranks before the human soldiers went in. Bulldogs were bred for bull baiting. That's why they're called BULLdogs. Idiot.
I took a daily job, watching a womans pitbull while she worked. Really kind dog, he was (he fucking hated other dogs though, especially on walks). But you could tell that his owner wasn't good for him. She was always stressed as fuck, so the transision from a relaxed enviroment to her picking him up all jumpy and twitchy made him fucking crazy. He would fucking bolt out the door as soon as she came if he could, so she had to chase him. We could keep the door open during the days without a problem.
One day her (ex?)husband came to pick him up and it was fucking incredible to see the difference. He was all relaxed and didn't greet the dog until it cooled down, just talking a bit to it in a relaxed voice. When it was calm, he greeted it and said goodbye. I wish he would've been the fulltime owner, since he was a lot better for the dog and its mental health.
Had to cancel the arrangement though, since he didn't get along with my dog. We made some mistakes during the integration of the dogs, so this could be blamed on me and my girlfriend I guess. But I think a big part of it was the vibes of the owner.
The last walk I took him on, he went fucking mental when he saw two other dogs being walked. They were greeting each other or something and he turned into a fucking beast, growling, barking and trying to bolt to them (only time he became this mad). I flipped him pretty hard on his back (he is a big dog), and held him by the side of his neck and his stomach (not so hard as to hurt him, but hard enough for him not being able to bite my hand or get up) until the other dogs were gone and he cooled down. It was obvious that his owner never bothered to "discipline" him or show him that he is not the packleader. After that, he was humble as fuck the rest of the day and tried to kiss ass.
As for the times he scuffled with my dog, we always broke it up really quickly because he is A LOT bigger than my female. He always showed shame after the fights though.
>>717658460 Who fucking cares this much about fucking dogs? Just kill them all, problem solved. Dogs are complete pieces of shit anywaya, constantly making a fuckton of noise, asshole fucks who ruin literally everything in their reach by ripping it to shreds. I have worked at four animal shelters, and dogs are always the fucking worst, period. Just kill every last one. At least cats taste good with some onions, dogs are wholly disgusting.
>>717659916 I've never owned a pitbull and most of them seem to have pretty bad temperaments, but I also can't think of another breed that's more commonly owned by members of the lowest echelon of society that either neglect to train them or train them to be aggressive. Generalising the characteristics of any breed is pretty stupid, but if there is any correlation between pitbulls and aggressiveness, it's no different to the correlation between Subaru WRX's and speeding tickets, SUV's and soccer moms, or chihuahuas and rich bimbos - the sort of people who own them are the problem, not the breed itself.
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