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Now that we know The Russians are responsible for Mrs. Clinton

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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Now that we know The Russians are responsible for Mrs. Clinton losing the election, should Trump hand over the keys to the White House to the real winner?
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((((hacking))))
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>>717069011
How many elections has the US tampered with around the world? Most of them. Obama funded a group that actively campaigned for Israel's election. All they did was publish true information. Still not convinced that it was russian government anyways.
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>>717069966
this.

>b-b-but it doesn't count if we are the one doing it
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>>717069011
Worst Foreign policy President, Ever.
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>>717070125
Also one of the most war mongering Nobel Peace Prize winners ever.
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He is on a deranged rampage to destroy every foreign policy asset the US has out of spite, before he has turn it over to Trump and is yet somehow portrayed as the responsible one.
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>>717069011
>Russia hacked voting booths, manipulating vote counts
If they can prove it, hold a revote with physical ballots. AFAIK no one is claiming this happened or has evidence for it.
>Russia hacked DNC servers and released emails proving they conspired with HRC against Bernie, and intentionally aimed press releases in the primary at Trump to legitimize him as a candidate so they could easily beat him
No revote, but throw some sanctions Russia's way. When Trump reverses them with previous sanctions against both parties wishes, Democrats can use it as proof that Trump is paying back his debt to Russia, for both the midterm and 2020 elections.
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>>717069011
Obamacare sucks and will be erased from history, also Hillary should blame herself LOL
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>>717069011
> We should take the white house for ourselves
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>>717070484
Or he could be reversing retarded sanctions resulting from baseless accusations
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>>717069011
Bush literally had people out there eating ballots, nothing can be done. They're only trying it now because neither the Democrats nor the Republicans want him on the whole. I say let him fuck everything up.
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>>717070567
He's keeping a lot of Obamacare.
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>>717070703
It was already fucked. How much more fucked up do we need to appear to the world? This country is going to hell
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>>717070724
Thats because a lot of Obamacare wasn't bad. The problem with Obamacare begins and ends with the massive amounts of control it gave the government over people's lives, and the blatant assaults on individual and religious freedom.

All those things are going away. There will still be no way for insurance companies to deny insurance to people with individual conditions, but the individual mandate will be gone and I hope an effigy of it is burned in public as a warning to future liberals.
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Yep, good old Obama, so thoroughly embarrassed that his unimaginably stupid policies were summarily rejected by the American people that he'd start a fight with a superpower based on completely unproven and baseless accusations in order to save face for his own party and make Republicans look bad in the future when they repeal his bullshit.

"hurr durr look at trump helping Russia, told you he was on his side", they will say, and the entire media will back them up. What they don't realize is that 90% of the country is well aware of what he's trying to do.

Americans: not as dumb as liberals think we are
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>>717071259
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>>717070774
You might get some actual change because in the end the politicians don't want that dickwad out there, but at the same time can't go "You the people chose the wrong damn guy!". So they'll have to push through legislation with the pretense of being more democratic and the government being more controlled etc etc.
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When they say "hacked the election" they're referring to the leaked emails. You know, those that were in the public interest to know about and which revealed collusion between media and the DNC favoring Clinton.

It's actually factually incorrect that Hillary lost because of it, as you can see by the fact she got a bump in the polls right after Comey blew off the investigation again.

If Russia really was behind that (possibly), then I'd simply like to thank them for their public service.
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Heck, she even won the popular vote by a whopping 2.8 million lead, leaving Trump with no mandate.

Explain how that cost her the election new-McCarthyites.
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>>717071102
Get ready for everyone's health insurance costs to triple of you are going to keep all the protections but not keep the mandate. Health insurance companies make money off mostly healthy people and lose money on really sick people. They made money on the old system by finding ways to boot the super sick out, and on the new system by forcing the healthy to buy in. If they can't do either, they'll just have to jack up the price on those who still get health insurance.
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>>717071259

If this is true and Clinton won the popular vote, you people have the most fucked up voting system this side of a dictatorship.
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>>717071435
There must be some legal basis, guy was a law academic and supposedly p good. But I agree, it does seem weird route to go down, wikileaks isn't a member of the US press really and it even seems like the e-mails were given willingly (check out Assange's recent interview that allegedly are faked, he outright says that Russia weren't involved and implies the origin by saying how many had been release - as in they were vetted emails leaked by Clinton).
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>>717071619
uuuhhhh nope. The electoral college exists so cities with huge population can't make decisions for the whole country. The cities and rust belt have very different needs.
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>>717071690
You mean this?
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/29/the-guardians-summary-of-julian-assanges-interview-went-viral-and-was-completely-false/
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>>717071749
Which is retarded when electing a president to represent all the people.
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Here is the proof that Russia interfered with the US election. Oh, wait...
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>>717070567

>Hillary should blame herself LOL

oh annon. Libtards never takes responsibility for their own actions.

Its always someone elses fault if its bad and its always their doing if its good. I mean obama is trying to take credit for the surge in the stock market that took place after trump won because clearly it had nothing to do with trump winning and everything to do with obama. the fact that it did not happen till trump won is mere coincidence.
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>>717071851
Fuck you're retarded.Even beyond retardation.
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Kinda funny how the polls weren't that far off when you look at the popular vote.
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>>717071920
This.
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>>717071851
Exactly. ALL the people and not just Cali/NY
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I'm thinking if she didn't want to be hacked she shouldn't have been working from a home brew server which was illegal to begin with.
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Russia wanted Trump to win so they rigged it knowing we wouldn't fuck with them over it (pic related). We're too deep to back out now, the electoral college happened after that news came to light and he still got voted in shaking things up at this point would only lead to mass civil unrest and open the door to revolution.
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>>717072000
Did you forget there's a Congress and House of representatives? Retard.

One person, one vote. Only fair way to elect a president. Unless you hate democracy.

>>717072112
Indeed, the five people in Iowa should decide the election and force nominees to campaign there instead where there are people. Makes sense lol.
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>>717072046
And Jupiter has lots of moons. Which is interesting, but irrelevant to how we elect a president. Like the popular vote.
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>>717072357
Irrelevant for an oligarchy, which you seem to favor, yes. Good goy.
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>>717071851

Look at history.

With the electoral college, both partys win some of the time (here's where "all the people" comes in).

With popular vote, one party (Democrats) would control the country until its destruction.
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>>717072277
Podesta's email was hacked after he clicked a hyperlink in a phishing email. That's what happened.
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>>717072312

>Unless you hate democracy.

Eh i like a republic more.
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>>717069011
>this is what actually happened

https://youtu.be/f18tj64Xbrc
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if there wasn't an electoral college it would be incredibly easy to pass "fuck all farmers and rural towns for not having dense populations" type laws because of their vote didn't matter why would politicians do anything for them? Agriculture is essential for any self sustaining nation, the backbone on witch the rest of the nation can be built upon, if their voice was made irrelevant by the growing of cities the interior of the nation would collapse and the rest of the country with it.
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>>717071809
I think so. Did he do one in the last week?

It's the radio one from a 2 or 3 weeks back I'm talking about with lots of ahhs and shit.

It does sound really fake except for the hacking NASA bit where it's slightly organic sounding
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>>717071619
not really

it's very simple - a few extremely heavily (and densely) populated counties voted heavily clinton

unfortunately for libtards the government at large is set up to prevent but a tiny few areas geographically from running an entire country

hence the electoral college, hence the Senate and each state having 2 Senators (rather than the most populated states having them all), hence the requisites to pass a constitutional amendment

unfortunately liberals suck at US history
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>>717071278
"people who disagree with me aren't American!" this sentiment will destroy our country if we let it. And we're letting it! Liberals think Conservatives are racist, shitty people, Cons think Libs are.. what lizard people who run pedo rings? Something like that. We should all kill ourselves.
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>>717072496
The humanity.

>>717072579
That's a form of democracy. Are you 12?
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>>717072651
rather, unfortunately for liberals.. they're the ones bitching about it now kek
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>>717072666
waste of satan trips
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>>717072619
We're talking about the election of a president to represent all the people. In that case it should be one person, one vote. Anything else is just ludicrous. Well, with the exception of ranked voting.
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>>717072651

The electoral college was put into place because the founding fathers thought the common man to dumb to pick a president. And that should the common man pick a retard the electoral college could vote how they wanted.

This last election proved the founding fathers right. and proved the electoral college is broken.
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>>717071809
Oh, holy fuck, reading that and the guardian really has gone to shit.

You know they were on the board of investigative journos that took up the panama papers leak though? And apparently wikileaks just brushed that aside.
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>>717072312
it's funny you mention House, as if it's separate from the electoral college

did you forget that the same distribution of House Reps decide both how many reps each state gets along with how many electoral votes they get? the concept wasn't mutually exclusive dumbfuck, this bullshit talk about popular vote is entirely sour grapes from loser libcucks who wish to change the system when they lose the one they're in
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>>717072651
Indeed, as you indicate, it's outdated.
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>>717072814
Yeah, you're still saying that. You weren't saying that whenever the college chose a lefty. Funny how that goes.
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>>717072814
this
>>717072889
goes for you too
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>>717069011
25 pennys have been deposited in your acct
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>>717072922
nice try with the bait
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>>717072790
You do realize that there are countless videos of people illegally committing voter fraud for Hillary. So subtract the millions of illegal voters, plus all the dead social security numbers used for fraud and Donald J. Trump wins both electoral and majority vote.
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>>717069011

Russia didn't hack my vote.
Russia didn't make Clinton store work emails on her private server she didn't have.
Russia didn't make the DNC corrupt.
Russia didn't make Donna Brazil share debate questions.
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>>717069011
So u gonna post a link to the proof that russia did it or are just another FAGGOT sheeple letting other people think for you. YOU DUMB CUNT
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>>717072889
Indeed, it's not mutually exclusive with the abolishing of the college. Get rekt son.
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>>717069011
Now we know the Americans really want us to believe that it was the Russians, and not an internal leak, that let everybody know what a lying, two-faced, bought and paid for by the corporations and banks sack of shit Hillary is.
Fixed that for you OP.
It is just a shame that the only alternative given to the voters was a retarded manchild. Way to go USA!
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>>717073006
I don't see why trump supporters continually use this

popular vote is irrelevant, it's not how the system works

liberals can bitch about it all they like

put forth a constitutional amendment then -- oh wait, it isn't a popular vote, it requires supermajority of states and congressional members LOOOOL

liberals are fucked no matter what
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>>717073006
There's actually no evidence. Except that one woman voting for Trump twice or whatever it was. Keep watching Alex Jones though.
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>>717073045
that was so awful I kek'd
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>Russia hacked people's opinion and political views
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In all honesty any intervention was probably minimal and probably in Clintons favor. Because Russia knows she would let them get away with more bullshit.

I don't think they wanted trump.

This is what happens when you move to a digital election system.
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>>717073140
>liberals in 2016
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>>717069011
There's no proof of it, the CIA has said several times that it's just a theory, and Putin has denied the allegations
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>>717072312
>Unless you hate democracy

Good thing we're a constitutional republic and not a democracy.
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>>717073146
that's quite the red herring anon

elections are like capitalism

capitalism is the ability to move money from someone else's wallet to yours

elections are the ability to move people to the polls to vote for you

clinton could not convince enough niggers and beaners to do so, and trump convinced a lot of white people (especially the whites who previously voted obama) to vote for him

pretty simple really
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>>717072926

Do you have any idea when the last time a democrat took the white house with the electoral vote while loosing the popular vote was?

Or are republicans just that stupid... oh wait.
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>>717072814
The electoral college was put into place to give every state a fair vote based on population. There is literally no more room for chairs in house, which limits it to 435. So they froze that number and spread the number of representatives out to states based on population of that time. Now California (The brainwashed liberal kingdom) doesn't guarantee the election to go to whomever they want. Other states have a fair say. If you did your fucking homework and learn the positives vs negatives of the electoral college, you wouldn't bitch. Until then, continue flipping burgers while smarter people put policies in place for you to follow. Because we don't follow California, New York, or Florida. We vote with them. What surprises me is that Hillary voters know what she's done. They just don't fucking care. That's proof that brainwashing exists. Who the fuck wants a murdering psychopath to lead them?
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>>717073168
right next to:
>you can be both pro islam and pro gay-rights/pro feminist
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>>717073318
>muh popular vote
keep cryin bitch nigga
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>>717073318
.. and that matters how?

it's never been a popular vote
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If an internal media outlet or "charity foundation" was funded by an external source, would that external source be influencing the election?
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>>717070466
Gotta love how lazy we've become. It's true, our laziness led to ignorance, led to stupidity, led to no action to rebel against this tyranny.
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Late christmas present on me guys go fuck your ex gf tonight - snap-leak-cf
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>>717073285
on that note, I wanna point something else out.

Voters rioting after Obama is elected=Racists

Voters rioting after Trump is elected=supporters of equality
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>>717073168
>Russia hacked my feeeeeels
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>>717070484
The funniest part is they say they "hacked" Michigan. I live here and we use paper ballots, fed into a machine with no internet connection. (basically an offline teller machine) and the info is physically collected and counted offline. You can't hack a paper ballot. Yet these dumb fucks say that Michigan needed a recount because of it. I fucking live here. I filled out a piece of paper. They must be making some grade A wi-fi paper these days!
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The negatives of the electoral college far outweighs the positives. Anyone with any understanding of this outdated, undemocratic, and tyrannical system knows this.
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>>717073285
This. I voted for Obama twice and voted trump because of the shit Hillary said herself. And I was already at that point once the emails were released as were a lot of other lifelong dems. Russia's influence was minimal at best.
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why are libtard Clinton voters so riled up about the conspiracy theory Putin shit while ignoring how much Clinton was bought by foreign influences that donated to her foundation? countries she gave money and weapons to that directly funded ISIS (Saudi Arabia and Qatar come to mind) ?

who really thinks liberals care about the sanctity of the election system? they're the ones trying to get illegals to vote for fucks sake
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>>717070724
He's right to do so. If you tear it all down at once, millions suffer. If you replace a hammer head now, and a handle later, you still have a tool that works, but it's completely different.
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>>717073373
>>717073381

>bring up electoral college giving BS reason to why it exists
>get BTFO when told the real reason it exists
>make statement that implies the electoral college votes dem all the time even though the popular vote goes red
>get BTFO by facts again
>Damage control mode: ENGAGED!
>hur dur keep cryin bitch! lol stay mad!


Im not even mad though. Hillary was a bad person to have running for president. She lost not because trump was an amazing nomination but because of low dem vote turn out. A lot of the dem base just dident vote in the last election.
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>>717073587
Except nobody rioted over Obama. A legal organized protest isn't burning down cities and blocking interstates.
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>>717073587

I do not recall a single riot after obama was elected.

Or if there was it did not last more then a day or 2 as the republican vote base had to go back to work the next day.
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>>717073766
The irony of Trump going down that very same path although even more brazenly by oppointing the people who bribe officials to do their bidding into positions of power.

Enjoy your fully operational oligarchy ameritards. You deserve it.
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>>717073804
>get BTFO when told the real reason it exists
This guy actually believes his own bs. Astounding.
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>>717070724
>two simple parts of Obamacare regarding pre-existing conditions and age of coverage eligibility
>lots
>ignores how much text covers exchanges and implementation

try again anon
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>>717071920
I love you and your logic. (no homo).
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>>717073766
receiving foreign donations =/= hacking to change election numbers You can say they are essentially the same thing, but US law says differently. You wanna see some messed up shit? Read laws about SuperPACs.
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>>717073707

As long as Americans continue to refer to the US as a collection of mini-countries, it sounds like a rather apt system.
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>>717073980
Nobody hacked the election numbers.
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US gov lying as usual. I am amazed by this fucking horrible country fucking the world up for decades and pointing fingers at people, every empire must fall down one day...
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>>717069011
>Kind of think we need to hire Russia for American newsrooms since they published GENUINE NEWS.
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>>717073980
>putin and co hacked the election machines directly

holy shit my sides anon, thanks for that
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>>717073491
fuck off already
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>>717072357
Did Al' Gore really lose to Bush? I think it was rigged. Not that i like Gore anyhow, but still.
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>>717069737
Been a while since I heard that joke.
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>>717073980
>hacking to change election numbers

[cittation needed]

If you mean hacking with the end goal to change election numbers, you could say the saudis spent money to change election numbers to the same effect.
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The electoral college kinda works like the EU when you think about it.
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>>717073937

>im too stupid to google something

The facts are out there annon.
I am not going to spoon feed you like fox news and info wars dose.

do your own research instead of taking everything rush limbaugh says as fact.
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>>717072595
Bullshit. When Democrats are exposed, they don't admit they're bad people. They just blame the dog.
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I really admire Putin's patience with all this bullshit. Man the day he'll get real angry it's going to be ugly.
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You liberals are so dumb. You're only good at drinking jewish lies and nigger cum. I can't believe you're still standing for Hillary after all we know about her and her disgusting father. You are the puppets of the evil fucks running this world.
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>>717072312
Crying about it now even though it's been this way forever.
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>>717074300
Dubs are always correct
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>>717072619
Last i checked, more people disliked Clinton than Trump. Which means the people favor Trump.
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>>717074278
I think he realizes American liberals are basically engaged in self destructive behavior atm so it will fix itself in that regard
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tfw liberals and Glenn Greenwald are on opposing sides, and when liberals say he's an operative of the Putin regime

>fucking keks, liberals have lost it
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>>717072651
I want to go to an alternative reality where Trump wins the popular vote and still becomes president, so i can hear the liberals bitch about how the electoral college is supposed to matter more.
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>>717072666
Sure, kill yourself.
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>>717069011
wow ..you are autistic aren't you ???
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"The Clinton campaign, when they were not spreading obvious untruths, pointed to unnamed sources or to speculative and vague statements from the intelligence community to suggest a nefarious allegiance with Russia. The campaign was unable to invoke evidence about our publications—because none exists."

https://wikileaks.org/Assange-Statement-on-the-US-Election.html
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See what's really scary and eye opening about all this is that had Hillary actually won given all that's happened we would probably be gearing up for that war with Russia over this. Coupled with Syria and hacking and all the left bellyaching something would set it off. Putin is being really cool about all this because he knows now that it's just a waiting game. Obama can flop around pissing and moaning all he wants but at the end of the day he has till Jan 20th to has his shit packed and go. Then it's a different ballgame altogether. The only thing left now that irks me is knowing you faggots are gonna be screaming "RUSSIA!!!" From the rooftops for the next 4-8 years.
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>>717074262
Politicians/partisan hacks*
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>>717073913
It's more of the fact that they were dismissed as racists just because he was black, but when it comes to a white old guy, he's the racist, not the rioters
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>>717074665
yeah, Putin knows liberals are shooting their own selves in the foot already regarding the 2020 election too

he doesn't even need to do anything rash, libfucks are doing it all by themselves kek
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>>717074336
I've cried about it every election actually. Partisan hack.
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>>717071278
You guys voted for trump so your actually even stupider then the libs thought. Trump is not even a republican and has gone back on almost everything that got him elected.

Oh yea obamas policies are so stupid that trump said he will be keeping most of the controversial ones.

Then again if trump thinks their good policies then i guess that means they must be stupid...
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>>717074348
They're both historically disliked. Both.
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>>717074771
>you guys are stupid
>ignores the fact that most people know Trump is even more liberal than Hillary
>clearly doesn't see it's irrelevance

good job "intellectual"
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>>717069011
When you have a successful coup you do not give power back to your enemies
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>>717072312
your comments make me feel like this is your first election
and you don't realize that the states that the election rides on change each time

even if it was a popular vote and the vote was stuck 50/50 would you blame the last state to be counted as selecting the president?
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>>717073053
thats funny considering that kind of fear is what had Germany in such a shit state right now
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>>717069011
>for Mrs. Clinton losing the election
Mrs. Clinton is responsible for Mrs. Clinton losing the election.
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PRESIDENT ELECT SANDERS WOULD BE WRITING HIS INAUGURAL ADDRESS except for lying crooked Hillary and Podesta.
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So, the Russians stole information that the DNC rigged the election so the Russians rigged the election by revealing the democrats rigged the election?
The thought train here is so shitty even for politicians.
1. I trust Assange more than I trust Obama.
2. Even if Russians stole info that doesn't mean that insiders didn't also take information and provide it to Assange.
3. Russians would be better served by having dirt on Clinton and having her in office than having Trump in office who they do not have dirt on.
4. Whoever did leak the emails did not harm the election but revealed important information that voters needed. There was no shortage of dirt on Trump.
5. It would be really sad if the Russian government was a better source of information during the election than the white house and u.s. news outlets.
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>>717074771
>Oh yea obamas policies are so stupid
Obama wasn't running, idiot. Banker-loving, corporate whore Clinton was.
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>>717074771
>Then again if trump thinks their good policies then i guess that means they must be stupid.
Way to throw logic out the window in favor of partisanship. Maybe politics isn't for you.
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>>717074771
or maybe just maybe

most people dont vote on party lines
and not everything is a giant comparison of one person to another
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>>717075086
Thatwasthejoke.webm
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>>717069011
No Russians should be allowed to vote since dumb fucking liberals think illegal immigrants should vote...as long as it's for them
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>>717074900
fucking kek so true anon

this dumbfuck you responded to mentions "Congress" and "House" like they're separate, but ignores the Senate which has absolutely no connection to "popular vote", having 2 Senators for each state and having obstructionary/parliamentary procedures to hold up legislation by a minority of Senators, even one single Senator

now let me reiterate to libtards, if you ever wanted it changed to popular vote you need to amend the US Constitution - that requires two-thirds of a Republican House and Senate, plus 3/4 of the states (38 states) - Trump won 31 states, Clinton won 19.. would need to convince 19 Trump states to vote for it KEK
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>>717073804
Still crying over a policy that has always been followed.
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>>717075166
No, you just go through the ballot and vote for the party that does or does not support murdering healthy babies in healthy women that were too stupid to take a pill or make a guy wear a condom if he wanted to insert his penis inside a vagina...

>"Party lines" are quite simple.
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On the plus side, if you want to do anything illegal, just get a Russian VPN and the US gov will be more than happy to let them take the fall for it.
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>>717072666

>we'll destroy the country by caring about defining the country

Yeah okay

We don't give a fuck what liberals think
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>>717074227
>projecting
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>>717075227
no Russians voted

even if we assume everything they are accusing the Russians of is true

the worst thing they did was let us in on what Clinton was doing

they used to call that journalism
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>>717075342
Shut-up it won't work if EVERYONE does it.
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>>717072112
It is retarded as it stands right now empty land in the middle of the country has more political power then your average urbanite
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>>717074034
No one does this.
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>>717069966
>all of them
FTFY
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>>717074052
Alright Luke, use the force. Faggot.
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>>717075451
The Bible belt had to save America from a generation of people who think they get trophies for participating.
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>>717075514
fucking everyone does it.
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>>717072312
It does make sense but you are just too stupid to understand why.
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>>717072496
Thats a just BS if it were a popular vote mit romney would be the one leaving the white house soon and that just a recent example...
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>>717070484
Really, they're claiming the wrong thing. Nobody hacked the election - someone hacked the DNC and released damning evidence of criminal behavior to the public. They claim it was Russia, but they have no proof of that.
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>>717075451
no they don't your misunderstanding how this works

those states in the middle are only made a big deal because there the tie breaker the states that are most important change with each election but mostly remain in the same area

when California new York organ Washington and so on vote the same every 4 years than they get noticed less

but nothing is stopping them from changing that at any time
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>>717075729
thats my understanding of it

some call it hacking
some call it investigative journalism

ether way knowing more facts about a candidate i don't see as a bad
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>>717075451
That's because your average urbanite has his areas population padded with dindus. LA's population is 3.8M. You don't honestly believe that it's 3.8M highly educated and progressive millenials with curled mustaches, glitter beards, and soy chai tea lattes from Starbucks do you? The educated left shares its vote with he worst dregs of society. But that just makes me racist.
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>>717071619
worry about your own goddamned country, this one is ours and we're going to run it the way we want
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>>717074749
Wow, every election? That makes you like 200 years old? Oh, you mean this election. Liberal fag.
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>>717075729
WikiLeaks envoy: Leaked DNC emails came from ‘disgusted’ whistleblower, not Russian hackers

https://www.rt.com/news/370478-dnc-emails-whistleblower-russia/
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>>717075345
we should round em up and put em in a camp or something
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>>717074771
Not even President yet.
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>>717075914
DNC was not hacked AT ALL they got outted by their own for being scumbags...
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>>717072619
Only if the current system of breaking everything down into districts. But if it as a true popular vote this would not be an issue. What your describing already happens in winner take all states like cali. Any republican in California might as well have not voted. But if it was a true popular vote where only the yotsls matter then everyone is truly equal.

One vote in newyork would be the same as one vote in texas.
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>>717071573
>implying health insurance is a good thing that all people should have
In most of America, insurance premiums are so high that, unless you're having regular medical procedures going beyond a doctor's visit and glasses/contacts, it's not worth it to pay for health insurance. With premiums and the deductible, you end up paying for nearly 100% of the expenses. If you're healthy, even a trip to the hospital every ten years isn't enough to make up for what you end up paying - factor in the increase in premiums, and it's laughable that so many people had insurance before Obamacare.
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>>717072312
>One person, one vote. Only fair way to >elect a president. Unless you hate >democracy.

Good thing when I learned civics I paid enough attention to learn that we are a constitutional representative republic and not a democracy.
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>>717071619
>>717071259
>>717071398
This is a map where the number of voters in that county Is displayed vertically
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>>717069011

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-30/john-mcafee-i-can-guarantee-you-it-was-not-russians
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>>717075026
But yeah, Obama's policies are shit.
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>>717076241
Fuck it, half awake right now anyway...
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>>717069011
A. WE don't know shot about the hack. Anyone who knows how this shot works knows they are full of shit.

B. Even if it was the Russians Clinton lost because she was corrupt. Why would we punish another party for pointing out the truth?

If you think it's OK to punish trump because Clinton is corrupt your a damn facist.
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>>717076280
John McAfee is a Crack head that will say anything for attention
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>>717076253
Good thing those small parts of America don't get to decide the vote
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>>717075451
Empty land has more common sense then the average urbanite.
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>>717072651
Only if we keep everything the way it is currently if anything that proves how flawed the ststem is currently.

One vote per person no matter where it comes from taken in agrigate. The person with the most votes wins
It does not get simpler then that and it would fix any issues of large population centers controling everthing

This is a win win for everone libtards and conservafags alike. The only people who lose are politicians
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>>717076288
Name some
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>>717075729
The dnc is still running false news.
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>>717076253

Noone likes extremists and circlejerks.
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>>717076700
Then why was trump elected?
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>>717069011
Pretty sure Hillary lost the election because she is a terrible candidate. >Pokemon go out to vote!
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>>717076694
It's funny that 50% of democrats believe Russia did the hacking and 50% of republicans believe in pizzagate.

You would hope the average Joe would be able to sort through all of the b.s. but people will believe anything
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>>717073006
Multiple investigations into voter fraud by independent organizations disagree a quick google search could show you that america has extremely low amount of cases of voter fraud. She won the popular vote get over it hes still going to be the president.
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>>717072496
so, hows it feel to be a minority, nigger?
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>>717076117
You are implying that the dindus are equally distributed among the states.you aren't going to find dindus in the farming areas of the country, way too much work. They are gonna all live in an apartment in a big liberal city so they can get there EBT and housing assistance and medicare.
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If you think about it, this was a much more prominent hacking 'attack' on liberals, but noone screamed accusations at countries over it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3044874/security/large-advertising-based-cyberattack-hit-bbc-new-york-times-msn.html
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>>717076758
Because the big bad Russians """hacked""" the election.
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from the shade of a tree on an arlington lawn
the crossing of two paths culminating at dawn
the sound of the reports heard both far and wide
pitting two brothers, the same, but two sides
a man from the east waits to see it all burn
but woefully despondent when he misses his turn
a small man crushed again, like a mouse trying to roar
alas, despite his failure, all still ends with fortyfour
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>>717072496
The electoral college only helps the republicans. 2 out of the last 5 elections they lost by millions but for some reason patches of land get to choose someone to vote on there behalf that aren't required to vote based on what their region has voted. So it's the powerful putting in people to vote on their behalf. Its really a corrupt and unnecessary system.
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>>717069966
>All they did was publish true information.

Hillary Clinton was TOTALLY running a pedophile ring out of a pizza joint.

You're fucking stupid.
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>>717076700
>>717076758

Well, thats all major metropolitan areas are anymore...DNC Circlejerks....I mean come on Andre Carson literally rode on his grandmas coat tails.
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>>717071568
Popular vote is meaningless
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>>717076685
Cash for clunkers, obamacare, bailing out gm, all of his policies against Israel, raising the spending ceiling, Need more?
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>>717073200
>cites putin as a truthful source
sure, kid
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>>717077456
Hahaha that was started here. Pizzagate is not real
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>>717077513
>raising spending ceiling
After he campaigned about doing just that is un-American.
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>>717069011
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>>717070619
>baseless accusations

The computer intrusions into American systems came from known Russian intelligence assets. The entire US government intelligence apparatus is in agreement about that the Russian government approved the cyber attacks.

What is it you think is baseless exactly?
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>>717073373
so says the sackless turd from the safety of grandma's basement
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>>717077532
duh, that was the point
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>>717070567
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>>717077672
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>>717076649
Once again, dindus don't live in area that require people to work. They like liberal progressive areas where theu can mooch off the working class.
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>>717071398
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>>717077762
Can't believe 50% of republicans believe that
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>>717077829
so what?
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Obama: CIA, FBI and every agency with a three letter name, How could Russia have hacked our election?

Three letter agencies: Here is a technical document about how WE would hack a Russian election.

Obama: My fellow sheep, I have proof Russia hacked our election...

Meanwhile -

>DNC whistleblower: They're blaming Russia??
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>>717077711
hahahahahahahahaa
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>>717076922
I need a citation on the 50 percent believing in pizzagate. I hadn't even heard of it until that guy made the news.
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>>717077946
So you are ok with 270 voters that aren't required to vote based one what the area have voted to over rule your vote?
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>>717077835
well I mean a lot of the shit they do and the symbolism they used.. of the shit not made up.. is still pretty fucking creepy

and this comes right after two faggots.. one being a teacher.. the other being his boyfriend.. engage in rape and molestation of boys at school and then kill themselves when caught

liberals in a nutshell
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>>717077946
so the electoral collage is a joke. even donald hates it......unless it hands him the presidency
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>>717077829

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0lWICH3rY
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>>717076117
You still don't understand why the electoral college is in place, it is stop you and your high population center from ruling the country, originally you had Boston, New York, and Philadelphia, then a loose rural hill billy population. The fore fathers wanted everybody represented.
And if f you want to talk popular vote explain superdelegates to me.you don't think the democrats elite would create them in a general election? They can't trust their own people to vote right, why would they trust a whole country.
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>>717077946
>so what
>hating america this much
baesment dwelling permavirgin detected
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>>717077946
you have to slowly explain to libtards that popular vote means shit and Trump winning 30 states in their popular vote vs Hillary's 19 means a lot more
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>>717078040
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/50-trump-fans-clinton-involved-pedophilia-article-1.2926098?client=ms-android-verizon
Trump supporters, my bad
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>>717078170
31 rather
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>>717078170
See
>>717078042
Not sure why anyone would promote this system. Its not democracy or a republic. Its 270 people voting based on there personal choice.
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>>717076998
Since we still have states that dont require ID to vote, proving voter fraud either way os impossible. Pedro can walk in and say he's Joe blow, no one is gonna know the difference.
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>>717069011
So do all amerifats only read headlines and then jump straight to the conclusion?
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>>717078184
we know how useful polls were in the election

but you're free to trust them still anon

cling to whatever straw you can grasp at kek
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>>717076922
Well one is real life that you deny because it doesn't fit with your worldview, and the notion a pedophile ring is run out of a pizza place is just bat shit insane.

So, Republicans are statistically a coin flip between rational and batshit insane. And democrats are a coin flip between informed and ignorant.

Hmm.
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>>717077318
False news
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>>717078293
So you have a theory you can't back up. Gotcha
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>>717078287
they're bound to their party's nominee

the fact that you got it wrong again shows you and reality are set to have many epic battles over the 8 years of Trump
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>>717078363
citation needed
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>>717069011
>Now that we know The Russians are responsible for Mrs. Clinton losing the election

How exactly are the Russians responsible?
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>>717078363
>I declare that didn't happen, so it did not.
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>>717078154
see
>>717078170
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>>717077441
Still crying after all these years...
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>>717078300
A surprising number do. Reading is hard and our public schools are like medieval n shit so reading a headline is itself an impressive feat.
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>>717078462
the same pundits writing fake shit the last 1.5 years said so

kek
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>>717078423
Nope they sure aren't. Otherwise there wouldn't be unfaithful voters
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>>717078072
>>717078042
>>717078154
>>717078170
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>>717077526
More truthful then hillary.
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>>717078170
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Love this story, because your average dipshit pleb will read the headline "Russian hack election" and take that to mean that they hacked voting machines and rigged the whole thing. They will just automatically assume that without reading the article, and then run off to the internet and repeat it. The Russians hacked the DNC's emails. What did the emails show? They showed that the democrats essentially cheated and tried to rig the primaries in favor of Clinton. Of course no one ever mentions that.
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>>717078521
Yes, and, if you only read headlines, you'll never get the underlying arguments to said headlines and only get a basic grasp of your own viewpoints which will lead you to only zero down on headlines you agree too, it's a one man circlejerk.
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>>717078623
too easily photoshooped. post more
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American has ruined many nations with its jewery. I hope Trump is a Russian spy and ruins your shitty country up. I would rather live in a world run by the Russians.
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Just found this amazing tool....see what celebrity you can leak lmfao snap-leak-cf
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>>717078532

But I mean does anyone actually know a person who switched their vote from democrat to republican because of what they learned from the DNC email hack? I seriously doubt that gained Trump a single vote.
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>>717078716
>pleb
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>>717078397

Podesta's email was leaked using his password, ergo Podesta voluntarily gave his emails to wikileaks.
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>>717078542
and how many elections have they affected

1.. and how many lifetimes ago?

you're so far off the beaten path anon just stick to anime and femboy threads
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>>717078695

Totes muh goats agree, I assure you I read the entire article and seek sauce for shit I spew and post a link to MUH sauce(s).
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>In other news the FBI heavily suspect that Russians have hacked information from confidential US servers regarding the nature of atmospheric light diffusion.
>President Obama responded, stating "We will not tolerate anymore interference from foreign agencies attempting to influence the sky to become blue."
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http://americantoday.news/bombshell-video-craig-murray-i-was-the-wikileaks-source-not-russia/
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>>717078819
And what does that have to do with voter fraud or when was podesta put in charge of over seeing fraud?
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>>717078670
of course libtards agree.. where was this support before Hillary lost? kek
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>>717078819
Or a Berniefag did when he/she realized how shit Leon and Hilly were...
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>>717074907
Oh, vey, Awesome, it really works.
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>>717078868
7 votes could easily affect an election and that's how many unfaithful voters there were. They don't represent anyone so why are they allowed? Why would anyone praise this blantant corruption? Because your candidate won using those corrupt methods? Wouldn't that make trump the establishment figure?
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>>717078919

Basic authentication. If he had 2FA enabled to prove he was who he was, it could have been avoided.
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>>717078184
Yeah, not trying to be an ass, but it is the N.Y. daily news. Not really known for being neutral.
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>>717079067

they both are ''the establishment''
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>>717078768
im sure some did but it wasn't even Russians that gave the info that had any impact on voters

everyone not angry libfucks knows Hillary's own corrupt antics, most of which were already public knowledge, cost her the election.. ask niggers and beaners why they didn't wanna go out in force to vote for her
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