Why the fuck did they make this character so OP. easily stopped

>>716804920
she is a big strong woman

I agree
it took luke three episodes to even come close to being a joke of a jedi

this whore comes around and just sorta knows everything and does everything

what's the point of creating a hero that doesn't need a heros journey? That's what you get when everyone'S conditioned to watch cancerous shit like 'avengers' etc.

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>>716804920
Cause she IS Darth Vader. She is his reincarnation. She (he) has come back to right his wrongs.

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id still fuck the shit out of her.

>>716804920
Because she is obviously a skywalker.

Anakin was incredibly powerful with the force before he even knew it.
That why hed always be super 'lucky'

He was too old to start training as a jedi and the council dismissed him.

Yet they ended up chaing their minds and he became the most powerful jedi that ever lived.

Luke was the same, he became even stronger than Vader just by climbing vines and doing handstands in a swap.

The force is unexplainably strong in the skywalkers

>>716805141
This is Jew Jew Abrams and Disney. What did you expect? The plot only needs to make sense to the degree that women can follow along. This means the whole family will buy tickets. There isn't a larger intent of storytelling, science fiction, fantasy, or really anything other than net income and projected return on capital when make star wars XXXIV where Rey and black stormtrooper man join forces with commander riker on a journey to find Will Smith that the whole family can enjoy.

Where are you guys getting that she's Luke's daughter?

Because she is the granddaughter of the emperor

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>>716804920
i felt the same way. but if they want to introduce new characters and not have it paced out the same way as the previous stories than they have to allow a main character to just be more advanced.

>inb4 deathstar v3.0

>>716805531
We all would

>>716804920
Totally agree OP, kinda hated the movie tbh. I'd actually say it was the second shittiest movie, after Attack of the Clones or whatever

>>716805531
Fuck shes got some fuckin real nice tits on her, any of the ass?

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>>716807750

Fucking Millennials.

>>716804920
Seriously?.... This is the problem you have with this piece of shit.

Anyone considered that maybe Kylo was just weaker than everyone thought?

>>716804920
Yeah, she kinda ruins the movie... and the whole franchise.

>>716807867
Hey man, what do you want from me? My mom's a slut all right.

>>716807931
I considered maybe the trilogy would end differently. Like what if Kylo Ren is supposed to undergo more training to get to Darth Bane level or some shit. I think it'd be nice if the Sith actually win.

>>716806565
First of all, you don't have to explain away everything until you can like it. It's okay for some stuff to just be bad.

Secondly, at what point exactly was Luke stronger than Vader? It was never about Luke to begin with, it was Anakin bringing balance to the Force by killing the emporer. Vader essentially toyed with Luke during their final battle until Luke inspired Vader to do what he was born to do and fulfill the prophecy (albeit a few decades later than they initially thought he would).

There was no point to continuing the Star Wars saga. It was done. Everyone was satisfied with the way Jedi ended. The only thing there was to do further was to tell more stories and develop the universe further. At some point the conflict has to end and everything has to be okay. You only destroy a good series' name by continuing to make content for money after a perfectly acceptable stopping point.

>>716807954
Agreed

SPOILERS Ahead:
Why she was so powerful...

>>716807750
>>716807867
>or whatever

>>716805531
Sadly not topless she ever did

>>716804920
Because Kylo Ren hadn't finished his training and throwing shit with the force is really easy if you know what the force is. Literally the first thing anyone learns.

Also mind controlling a stormtrooper is stupid easy.

Also I maintain the reason she beats Kylo Ren is because he got shot beforehand and was more or less barely on his feet.

>>716805072
for you

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>>716804920
You, are gay as fuck.

>>716804920
how DARE you say that about such an EMPOWERED woman!
Star Wars: The SJW Awakens

I only have part of the storyline:

The actual parents wont be revealed till the 3rd episode of trilogy in the series that includes her...
It will remain vague because they havent chose which competing exact parental line it will be. But yes, it tangentally involves Luke, or maybe not

>>716808180
Looks like somebody reeeeaaally liked this movie and is butthurt that anyone else thinks it sucks.

>>716807895
lost idk why

>>716804920

She is Obi-Won's daughter fuckface.

>>716804920
Its because of this that I hold the theory that she might fall to the dark side, those who are very susceptible to force without training usually fall to the dark side. On the flip side Kylo is a weak Sith, he constantly has to fight against the urge of the light side of the force (because hes trying really hard to be edgy). I think a cool flip could take place.

>>716808190
Actually as far as that prophecy about bringing balance to the force, well that actually referred to either Han Solos kid or Luke's kid (can't remember which). See in the extended universe, brought to life in books, Luke actually ended up going dark side like anakin, and he was much more "evil". Thus the child who killed him actually brought true balance to the force.

Mind you that was all before Disney was like "lol, let's throw out years and years of information about this universe and start from scratch cause fuck it we're Disney.

Kylo was pretty badly injured and throughout the movie he was struggling with the darkness, expressed by the scenes where he was mediating for it to leave him. The whole reason he killed han was so he would leave any trace of his good side behind

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>>716808964
rey was already a bretty damn good fighter with a staff, too. she would be able to duel with lightsabers even if she didn't have the force

>>716805141
>what's the point of creating a hero that doesn't need a heros journey?

My guess is that we're going to be watching her on a different hero's journey than Luke. We've already seen his struggles. We've already seen him try to lift an X-wing and fail.

As a weakling and sub-par Jedi, Luke only defeats the Emperor because of the help of his father. THAT is what that story arc is about. Darth Vader's redemption. Not about Luke being a badass Jedi.

With Rey they've got a new story to tell. And it will entail her being a more powerful Jedi, and facing more powerful enemies like Snoke.

that movie was basically Star Wars: A New Hope 2

>>716809250
snoke a bitch tho

Luke was training the next generation of Jedis secretly, which included her. Luke actually preferred older students, not younglings.

Luke was inventing a mystical sect secret training to make sure the jedi survive, by getting back to their true roots. But at a certain point, his circle has their brain raped to the wrong side, and the jedi were once again being hunted, but secretly. Luke wipes the memory of his young students, so that no one could ever be used to expose another, as the identiites were not known by the bad guys.

Luke realizes that he is creating his own teachings of the true jedi, and when he runs away, he tries to seek the wisdom that emanates from the ancient temples.

Lukes role in every SW storyline is about bringing the force full circle.

So at the end, something triggers the "awakening" in the Force Awakens, and she remembers the mystical side of the jedi training she had received younger

>>716808835
Yeah what the fuck is the deal with that?

Its like he doesnt want to be a sith subconsciously, but on te outside hes trying so hard to be one.

I always thought that nobody wants to be a sith, yet they are seduced by the darkside and inevitably fall into the trap.

Its like hes got it backwards.
Hes a weak untrained sth whos trying not to become a jedi..
Wtf?

Can anyone with better star wars lore knowledge enlighten me as to whats going on with that or is it just a poorly written rushed PoS?

>>716806883
You're right. Disney payed $2 million for the IP, and they're only focused on maximizing their return on investment. Star Wars brand recognition is so high already that they can just shovel out okayish movies, and people will eat them up.

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If you think this is bad, wait until Episode 8

Here's the first confirmed spoilers

>Luke has traveled to the location of the first Jedi temple.

>There he finds a mystical tree which is the origin point of the force

>He learns about two twins, one male and one female

>The female twin was good, the male twin was evil.

>The evil male twin kills his parents and the darkside of the force is born.

>The good female twin starts the Jedi order and is the first Jedi

>Rey is the reincarnation of this first Jedi, and not a Skywalker or a Kenobi
Star Wars is literally getting ready to say that all men are evil.

Not even joking. Check confirmed spoiler sites like Making Star Wars if you don't believe me. They have a 100% track record on spoiling the previous films

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/star_wars/rumor-new-leaked-plot-details-for-star-wars-episode-viii-a142676

>>716804920
each new generation of jedi become stronger than their parents

>>716804920
You're an idiot OP, she had received training in her past before she was dumped on that desert planet. You can clearly see it in the flashbacks. Jedi are taken as very young children, and their training starts early. Darth Vader and Luke are the exceptions to the norm, in that their training started much later on in life. Not the average.

Even if it was just for a couple years as a toddler it still fully explains everything she can do.

>>716804920
the force chose her. she didnt have to earn it.

>>716808512
underrated post here

star wars is shit anyway, who cares.

>>716809581
which is why Darth Vader kicked Luke's teeth out of his asshole

Why do you think this movie has anything to do with the starwars saga?

Is Carlton Banks a white man?

>>716809459
$2 billion*

>>716809459
>>716810039

>Disney payed $2 million for the IP

It was 4.5 Billion

>>716804920
>Why the fuck did they make this character so OP.
Power creep

>>716807018
It's a common fan theory.

>>716810106
They started fresh with Kylo and Rey. How could power creep be a thing with brand new characters?

>>716810083
Hmm, I don't know where I got that 2 billion from. It's very early in the morning so whatever.

>>716808847
EU was never canon.

>>716809499
you mean they are going to do a storyline that has precedent in the extended universe?

>>716809499
>Star Wars is literally getting ready to say that all men are evil.
bwahahahahahaha

>>716809444
Yah god knows, in my opinion a lot is riding on the second movie because it can either make the BS from the first movie worth it or make it even worse. Like for example, why tf did they just gloss over the fact that the core worlds were destroyed? Literally the first six movies were arguably about who would control the core worlds...

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>>716810692
>a storyline that has precedent in the extended universe?

No it doesn't.

>>716810692
Maybe not the extended universe. It was covered in the Clone Wars TV show which Disney considers canon.

>>716809499
>Star Wars is literally getting ready to say that all men are evil.

Great idea. Young boys are already abandoning this franchise for shit like video games and Jurassic World. This decision will go over well with them.

>>716810379
if they are weak at the start then they are less satisfying to watch because at this point everyone only remembers the badass moments from the older films and will compare the action scenes from the new films to the best moments of the previous 6.

>>716811000
Of course the Rey trilogy is going to be shit. The first movie was barely "meh."

>>716810670
are you retarded? lots of of the EU was canon.

>>716811413

None of the EU is cannon now.

Disney has specifically stated that the only cannon now is....

>Eps 1-7
>Rogue One
>Clone Wars Cartoon
>Rebels Cartoon
>All books and comics made since Ep7

And that's it.

>>716811096
you didnt read enough of the books then. the details are not the same but the twins representing the sides of the force is.

>>716811358
As long as the second one is good and explains away the multiple Deux Ex Machinas present in the first one, the trilogy could still turn out okay.

>>716811568
But the part about all men being evil has never been part of Star Wars.

If anything, I thought the film portrayed her as kinda weak. I mean, she ran from her destiny, and could barely fly a starship.

>>716804920
Disney shit, my expectations were so low they could have filmed a pile of dog shit for an hour and still made bank

>>716811622
Rey is all powerful because that's what the script requires of her at certain points of the story. And that's the only explanation that you will ever get.

>>716811413
WAS.

can you read?

>>716809426
hmmm, i can see it actually

>>716811561
>>716811413
>>716811719

>>716811663
What about how she bested a Sith-Lord-in-training with zero lightsaber dueling experience?

>>716811623
are they saying that in any way other that the guy being the evil one in this instance? is that really the same as "all men are evil"? what about male jedi? are they all going to be secretly evil too?

>>716811819
Kylo Ren is literally the biggest pussy in the history of Star Wars.

Literally gets beat by a girl the very first time she picks up a light saber.

>>716811819
What part of "just got shot by a bowcaster" is so hard to understand. Also, it was 2 vs 1 in that fight. And he still survived.

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>>716804920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM
watch this video or your mother slowly grow cancer. The next time you will talk to her she will stutter as a result.

>>716811819
she had training and the force made her super OP because thats how the force works.

>>716811888

Apparently the female twin told her followers that she would return, or reincarnate, and that they should find her and train her.

So yeah, all the male jedi are evil and a bunch of incompetent fools. This is how they got tricked into thinking Anakin was the chosen one. The chosen one cannot be male.

>>716811941
>Shot with a bow caster

The bitch literally forces his hands down in a hand to hand struggle. It's absurd and laughable.

>>716811819
Kylo was winning, and pushing her back, forcing her to run, until she called on her natural propensity with the force, which was greater than his.

>>716812016
that seems like a giant leap to make...

she said that she would come back and they thought that she might come back as a guy and so the males among them are evil. seems legit

>>716805141
>it took Luke only 3 episodes
>it takes everyone else their whole lives

The movie is called the force awakens dude, clearly the idea is the force is awakening and trying to reinstall balance in the universe through kylo and the cunt

grand daughter, learn to do math you fucking retard.

Think of how old obi was when he died.

When there was 1000 jedi using the force, it got used up. After 20 years of only 5 jedi (or whatever) it got replenished and now it all works through Rey.

>>716809426
This fits.

yes he is

>>716809426

Literally none of this is true. Pure fan fiction bullshit.

>>716807500
Can someone make this guy look like an engineer?

>>716813427
is that you on the pic?

>>716813780
..... Just make it happen!

Rogue 1 confirmed that Tarkington is Snoke.

Just none of you know it yet, he could've been 1 of 3 people. Krennic (who I was positive of until rogue one, Sheev (who I thought before Krennic was announced) and finally Tarkin (who's cgi render made me absolutely certain he's Snoke... until I get more info.)

But if isn't an existing character from the canon then that means he is the first (ancient) Sith and Rey is the reincarnation of the first Jedi (aka The Force Awakened).

I'm choosing to leave the Tarkin auto correct.

>>716807685
Yeah, cuz shes so popular. Star of one of the biggest movies ever and isnt on anyone's radar. She flopped.

>>716804920
"But she's female and therefore we need to make her much more powerful than any man ever"
-bullshit libtard Disney

>>716804920
cause its Palpatine's grand daughter duh...

>>716813941
if it isnt darth plageuis (no idea how it could be but people think so) then i hope its that little kid anakin kills in revenge of the sith. looks just like him.

>>716804920
>luke never had power
>killed death star on his maiden flight
>survived fight with strongest jedi ever after what, 1 week of training?

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>>716813941
>Tarkin
Died in the death star.

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>>716808847
Sorry nerd but I don't give two fucks about some comic book shit that explains the story beyond the films. The story is the films to most people which is all that matters.

>>716809604
Anakin trained young dude.

>>716805531
What's this from? Any more?

>>716814316
Killed Death Star with his whole squad and Obi Wan Kenobi helping him.

Survived fight with his father who did not want to kill him. If that would have been anyone else he'd been turned to dust.

>>716809250
You mean Mace WInndu...

>>716808190
Why does everyone assume that killing the emperor was what balanced the force?
You have two sith with maybe a handful of potentials.
Meanwhile there are hundreds if not thousands of Jedi.

Maybe Vader brought balanced to the force by thining out the Jedi!

>>716817758
This. The jedi were fucking retards in how they interpreted that prophecy. To bring real balance they need a force faction that aren't made up of dicks (sith) or uptight morons (jedi) to take control.

>>716817758
Well dur. Why do you think he killed them all?

>>716807931
Stopped a laser with his hand.
Force power to do that is ridiculous. Even yoda just deflected them (yoda probably could tho im not saying he cant)

The only way to balance the force is to eradicate both the sith lords and the jedi knights. The manipulation and bastardisation of the force was prominent on both sides.

>>716809499
Disneys canon already confirmed location of the origin of the force tho so why would they retcon their own canon?

>>716814453
we never saw his body

>>716818386
too soon

You fags haven't heard the apparent leak that she's the reincarnation of Anakin (the chosen one). If so then that's fine