Sup /b/. Basically, ever since I was very young I've always

start with yourself

>>716566868
Seconded

>>716566868
that wouldn't be very much fun

>>716566718
Everyone fantasizes about murder pussy. You don't have the balls so just give up now.

Op is a faggot

>>716566868
Why would he do that. He still has a survival instinct.

>>716566718
Do you put on convincing "character" for each area/situation of your life?

T.diagnoised Borderline tard with sociopathic tendencies

>>716567158
I wouldn't say it's completely put on, more of an exaggerated extension of my shallow personality to make myself seem interesting

>>716566718
Are you professionally diagnosed?

>>716567315
yes.

>>716566718
> move thread about Dexter to T.V

>>716567315
The psychologist only diagnosed me with antisocial personality disorder, and at the time I didn't really consider myself a psychopath, it was that hunting trip that made me realise, plus a couple of memories I have from when I was younger that also add up to being a psychopath

>>716566718
my form of control is imagining myself as an assassin and mentally killing people who deserve it, like that twat kim jong un. fuck that guy.

why does the idea of killing a human bring you more satisfaction than killing any ordinary animal, like the pigs you mentioned? Is it because you feel a thrill at hunting more clever prey, or because you hold people to a higher regard than other creatures?

I loved torturing animals and lighting them on fire and crucifying them as a child. Now, however, i get enraged if i see anyone even lightly slap a small animal. Im not op but things can change.

>>716567868
I've been thinking about this myself recently, and I think I have it boiled down to the fact that a human is far more intelligent and sensitive than any animal, I can inflict far more terror and pain into a human

>>716566718
>a little off.
join the army you heartless coward, kill to protect what's right.

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>>716566718
>18 now
This faggot is obviously 15-17 and is underage. Only stupid teenagers talk like this. Or it's just b8.

>>716567906
I too did that as a child, I have't stopped though. Every time I catch a creature in my house I think of a new creative way to inflict pain and kill it. Lately I've been putting the insects head into a lighter flame, If i can break their legs and keep the alive I put them in the microwave

>>716568052
This is exactly my solution. However I need a war to start to be guaranteed an infantry position and be given ample opportunities to kill

>>716568072
I don't know how I can prove that I am 18 or that I'm different from your regular faggot on 4chan. Just have to take my word I guess

>>716568072
ID. Blur everything but birth date. Small piece of paper with date. Fucking idiot

>>716568034
>4 new posts
So then it's the reaction that does it for you, not the physical act itself? Just trying to understand the driving factor behind this, as going through all the trouble and risks just doesn't seem worth it to me, from an entertainment standpoint.

Is the urge for a cheap thrill from killing and torturing someone worth the potential repercussion?

>>716568072
This.

OP if you're done being an edgy newfag in 5 years and you kill someone, you better post pics and timestamp when you do. Other than that, kill yourself.

>>716568454
The reaction damn I think you're spot on with that, I've never thought of it like that. It's not a cheap thrill to me though, it's like a supreme orgasm, I feel like I am achieving my very purpose in life - at least this is what I think it will bring, the animals bring a feeling like this just less intense

What is the perfect way to kill someone and get away?
I'm sure you've thought of it.

>>716568821
I don't really think of getting away with it to be honest, just the killing itself. My fantasy at the moment is multiple stabs into their heart, and sitting with them, talking with them as their life slips away

>>716568728
Hm, I can understand that. I can't say I can relate, but comparing it to an orgasm I guess kind of helps explain it. I guess the irrationality of it kind of makes sense considering sociopathy is categorized as a mental illness.

Thanks for answering, regardless of if you're trolling, or simply an edgelord, I don't really care either way. Wish you the best in life though OP, although I do hope you find a way to find validation in your life without taking others, not because I think human life is fundamentally sacred but moreso because I'd consider it such a waste to die or have a loved one die just to fulfill someone's fantasies.

>>716569050
P.S, since I just saw this post, if you really wanna get philosophical with people while they bleed out, direct stabs to the heart won't give you much time for conversation, just saying.

>>716569050
Multiple stabs to the heart probably doesn't give you time to talk.
I recommend looking up human anatomy, and slicing the femoral artery.
Gives you time to talk.

>>716569292
No worries, I am glad I could give you some insight.

I see where you're coming from, however I've got a nihilism complex. I don't think anything really matters. Also now that I've realised I get off on reaction, the thought of inflicting all that pain and terror into all the family members is quite satisfying

>>716569453
Yeah, I learnt this from the pigs. I wouldn't want them alive for all that long though

>>716569590
see>>716569660

>>716569853
yeah but multiple stabs to the heart is pretty much instant death.
Instant chock at least, so talking is very irrelevant.

>>716566718

Why would you be so obsessed with taking a life? Like what's it do for you? Give you a hardon? It sounds pointless and dumb.

>>716569930
Really? Maybe the pigs die a bit slower, or maybe I didn't get them directly in the heart. It certainly seemed like I did though

>>716566718
Do you have a slightly better haircut?

>>716570069
See >>716568728
Basically just an ultimate thrill and feeling of self satisfaction and validation

>>716570099
I've got that typical whiteboy fag haircut, short sides, pushed to one side on the top

>>716570223
How about your business card?

>>716570099
>>716570223
I don't actually like it at all but it gives me the best success in being popular and accepted among peers, and getting sex

>>716570076
If you really did stab a pig to death, hitting it in the heart would instantly kill it.
It would probably be able to run around a while afterwards though.

How would you even reach the heart of a pig with a knife though?

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Hey if we ever meet can you promise not to kill me if I tell you i'm some faggot from 4chan?

>>716570261
lmfao obviously I don't have one but I completely understand that feeling he gets when someone has a better business card than he does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5YkmjalDg

>>716570379
You deserve to die for being on this site.

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>>716566718
Only Niggers k champ

>>716570333
Hunting pigs with a pack of dogs and a knife is the most popular way in Australia. We use an ex military bayonet, I think the blades about 9 inches. I can send a picture if you'd like

>>716570442
thanks

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>>716566718
Dude, you're just a cringy teen we all went through that phase of narcissism just get school done and love your fam you little cuck

>>716570509
I'm quite racist, I've been thinking what an honour it would be to carry on Dylann Roof's legacy.

>>716566718
as long as you dont get caught

>>716570520
Sure, a pic would be nice.
Where do you stab? through side or through under chest area?

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>>716566718

>>716570605
Know what his words were. "Someone had to do it".

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>>716570671
Low behind the shoulder, pointed diagonally in towards the centre of its chest

>>716571089
Nice.

Yeah one of those should kill a pig (and a human) instantly
Pigs can, I think, jerk and even run when technically dead.

>>716571238
Yes, they do literally 100% of the time, even when shot directly in the brain with a rifle

>>716566718
Do you fap to movies like saw or hostel?
Do you sexualize hurting ppl?
Prefer male or female victims?

Fellow Bateman, here.

Anon I was told by a psychologist that group therapy among people like us is the best path to "recovery". What's your onion on that situation? I personally don't like the idea of it, I feel as if all of our ego's would conflict and it'd turn into a shit storm.

>>716566718
I had the same feeling growing up. Join the Marines, or join the Army and pick an MOS you KNOW will see combat. Infantry, if you get lucky, snag the bonuses Airborne, or Ranger, or both. How you'll feel after actually taking lives will throw you into an existential crisis, but you'll problem never kill again.

>>716571238
You can always tell how good the stick was. If the pig barely looks injured and continues to fight the dogs, you've got nothing but flesh

If it is sucking for breath in a weird way, with pinkish bubbled blood coming out of it's nose and mouth, you've got it's lungs, it will normally give up fighting if that happens

If you hit the heart, when you take the blade out it will be like someone turned a tap on, with deep red, crimson, nearly black blood pouring out of the wound, with more blood out of it's nose and mouth

>>716571676
See >>716568280
I'm from Australia and joining our defence force is a joke. If I lived in America I would honestly join the marines without a doubt in my mind

>>716571556
I can definitely see how our egos would clash lol. I have no interest in healing myself though, I see our condition as a blessing, I feel like I have a big advantage in life over everybody else because of it

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>>716566718
Seeing history repeat I really wish we could learn from the past for the new republic.

>>716571529
I fap to psychological thrillers like No Country For Old Men and American Psycho. No sexualization and no preference, as long as they are fit and healthy

>>716572076
That's fucking weird.

>>716572532
I don't literally fap to it I was just saying I love that type of movie, I definitely feel like I can relate to them, especially American Psycho

>>716572665
Because that would be. Crazy

>>716572834
Kek, thats where you draw the line itt?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>716566718
Do you iron your shoelaces in the morning?

>>716575397
yeah, twice

>>716566718
I don't see the point. ppl are pretty shit and being in jail because you killed one of many many idiots is stoupid. No more interesting than squishing ants. Also, things are relative, so you being "shallow" cam be deep in comparison... I would seek help, if you're feeling you will act (I imagine it is common to want to kill others).

>>716576032
See >>716570164
I can't really describe the feeling. Life in jail is more of a deterence than a death sentence to me. I'm not sure I will act, however I notice myself steeply increasing in thoughts that will me to do so, but I don't really want help, I see what I have as an advantage over others

>>716570605
Now this isn't all that bad. Kill your racial enemies and race traitors but not good White people.

I find psychopaths like yourself really fascinating. Do you enjoy hurting animals? I'm not a psychopath, however I do get some enjoyment thinking about slicing up a fish or bashing a dears head in with an axe.

>>716576643
I do. Ask anything, I'll answer honestly

>>716566718
A humble request, if it comes down to it.. please target a fuck face that ruined others lives. A Rapist. I wish you all the best, and Merry Christmas. :)

>>716576762
I would get more pleasure in becoming a fuck face that ruined others lives.

>>716576832
What about emotionally fucking someone up.
Rape them, harass them into depression and eventually suicide?

>>716576946
Yeah, I'd derive pleasure from that, I am a sadist. Probably not rape though, I don't have any sexual feelings towards any of this stuff

>>716577056
the rape would merely be a tool

>>716566718
commit a crime, get sent to prison, then kill all the people you want there. We don't want fuckups like you.

>>716576718
Do you enjoy the feeling of seeing the animal in pain? what animals do you usually kill/torture and how do you do it?

>>716576832
I hope you do reconsider.

>>716577129
I see, however I just can't see myself as using rape in any scenario. I've driven a girl to suicide before but she didn't go through with it, just self harmed and fucked her up mentally, all I used was words. I can see how rape would be a very unique and useful tool in destroying someone inside out, but it's just not my style

>>716577209
Who is we? Why would I do that, killing people while keeping luxuries would be better

>>716577460
I envy you op. You have a gift. Most people here, including me, are socially inept autists who cant talk to people and are unsuccessful in life. While you are free from peoples bullshit. You only care about you and don't let other people get in your way. Keep your violent desires in check and you can be very successful. If you need to kill just keep killing animals as you wont be as easily caught doing that. Lucky fuck, op

>>716577225
I do. The more of a "being" the animal is, the more I enjoy. Usually it's whatever I can get my hands on, insects around the house, toads, a bird if my dog leaves one alive. If I go out hunting in the bush it can be a pig, fox, rabbit, feral cat, feral dog, billy goat

>>716566868
/thread

>>716577673
I too see it as a gift, however you are wrong about some things. Psychopaths are basically very damaged minds, while I am free from others inhibitions, lets not forget psychopaths are classified as mentally ill. My mind is my worst enemy, and my best friend

>>716577866
Thanks for the answer. Were you abused as a child or do you hardly remember your childhood?

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>>716577056
we're all the same. your gunna hate the humour regardless if your on the wrong side of the wall.

>>716578056
How do you see it as a gift? I would hate for my mind to have urges just because I was born different... How is that different from the less "aware" animals?

>>716578022
nice

>>716578248
Mentally abused. I can remember most of it

>>716578248
>hardly remember your childhood

I can hardly remember mine, why would you ask him about that?

>>716577866
dogs are gods leave them alone. so more or less not a pray mantis just a sick fuck.

>>716578322
Same thing here. Luckily I didn't develop anti-social personality disorder. Try to keep your urges in check op.

>>716577866
Are you just killing for the sake of killing? But are you eating motherfucker??

>>716578275
I see society as big sheep pen, and myself as a wolf. I am not binded to social and moral beliefs like most are. Because of how my thought works, I am successful at most things in life as I have no personality and will bend and manipulate everything I can to my advantage. It is also I course though, I'm basically not even a real human, borderline incapable of feelings

If he's talking to us Now he sounds sane.

>>716567053
>murder pussy
Gotta love it

>>716578469
I agree dogs are gods, I only have a soft spot for my own dog though, or any other pet dog that wags its tail and shows me love. It's my only restriction. Wild dogs are not like any dog you've ever patted though - I have no problem taking their life

>>716578602
I feel like I am sane too.

>>716578682
Just stay away from women (kill women)

>>716578435
Sometimes when children are mentally, physically or/and sexually abused they have a tendency to suppress memories of the traumatic event in order to protect themselves from it. But don't worry about it as most individuals can't remember their childhood as well, but it's mostly due to bad memory. Also I am not a psychologist, just an autistic faggot on b. You don't need to worry unless you were abused/traumatized when younger

>>716566718
You're seeking attention. You wouldnt if you were mental like you say you are.
You care too, and you wouldnt if.. You know.
I dont want to dissapoint you. You're not a psycho/sociopath. Youre just in that age. Its a phase and its prolly gonna end soon. Just dont do retarded shit, read more books and stop watching Dexter/Hannibal or any shit that makes you think that psychopaths are cool. They're not. Most of them are just mentally retarded. All of them are shallow, empty and pitiful.
If you want to know how it feels to be a psycho, take xanax. Or any psychotropic medicine.
Peace.

>>716578558
I think my biggest issue with all this is I don't understand how you can find that important. I see absolutely nothing special about people to where killing them would be worth. They all (80% of em) seem pointless to even think about. But if it works for you that's fine.

>>716566718
*doffs fedora*

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>>716578897
All the ingredients to make a high nigga pie

>>716566718
I've noticed those signs in myself also. I don't feel any remorse to anyone else. I hurt myself and others without feeling any guilt. It helps me commit crimes also. So, AMA if you guys want

>>716578897
I probably am seeking attention, I don't really know, but at the moment /b/ is the only way to express myself because if I said this to anyone in real life they'd be completely creeped out and think of me differently. It's arguable I guess that I'm in "that age" but to me, I've had too many episodes and hold far too many similarities between being a psycho/socio. Also a professional psychologist literally diagnosed me with antisocial personality disorder when I was younger. I abused the my own pet bird when I was 6 years old, I have no idea why. It just gave me pleasure I cannot explain it. All these things combined provide too much evidence to me.

>>716578897
Amen, listen to this guy op. I also had a phase were I thought I was a psychopath, kind of retarded since I would cuddle with a cute little kitty every night.

>>716579155
You're probably in the same situation. I think it's more common than people realise, and much harder to tell us from normal people than people think too. We have a mask on at all times, being accepted and being held in high regard to your peers in absolutely crucial in the mind of people like us.

>>716579410
All ppl have masks all the way down.

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This entire thread screams edge lord teenage angst. Sounds like you think being a serial killer is cool because you watch too many movies, and it makes you unique because you
have no real, interesting character qualities about yourself. You're also grossly implying a direct causal relationship between sadism, psychopathy, and killer instincts which proves you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about

>>716579371
when you're not even 20 and you know your 50s are hell

>>716579604
very possible, I just think otherwise. I think you guys are skipping over the fact that I truly was diagnosed with something when I was younger. I could just be a bit mentally retarded I guess, I don't really know

>>716579235
There is a possibility that you have anti-social personality disorder, op. But you need to remember that only a professional can determine that. If a psychiatrist diagnosed you with it, it is most likely that you have it, but misdiagnoses happens all the time. You also need to remember that other mental illnesses have similar traits. If you been depressed you can become "cold" and feel very little. You could also have schizoid personality disorder which has similarities with ASPD. I recommend you do some research to see if anything else might fit your description The fact that you got mentally abused when younger also is a strong indicator that something might be wrong with you. Only a professional can come to a conclusion. If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean when you say you were mentally abused? Care to elaborate?

>>716578890
kek I was traumatized

>>716579758
You talk too much. you're a murderer for a black flag, that's the worse thing about it. No one will miss you.

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>>716579900
your dub dubs trauma me out right now bitch

>>716579900
Ripped boi pussy does that

>>716579900
How were you traumatized?

>>716579807
A professional DID determine that. His name was Dr. Chen if I remember correctly, he was a professional psychologist, he was very asian and I could barely understand what he would say. I have never been depressed, I see people with depression as weak people. The research I've done points towards sociopath/psychopath. I've been like this all my life, I didn't wake up last week watch American Psycho and make it my fantasy.

My mum has bipolar, in my earliest memories I can remember her screaming at me over such little things. I never felt loved as a kid and was always scared in my own home, although I was never physically abused. I still hate my mum to this day. I think she is the source of everything

>>716580138
elaborate on trauma, also elaborate on your dad

>>716580138
>>716580085
>>716579960
I was not raped in my boipussy

I grew up with retards for parents who did drugs and fought
I think I was beaten, I can only remember one time though.

>>716579758
If you were who you say you are posting about it on 4chan would be the among the last of your interest. ASPD=/=psychopathy/serial killer tendencies. If you're going to pretend, at least do your goddamn homework. Psychopathy can't be accurately diagnosed until mid twenties.

>>716580198
>I have never been depressed
>see people with depression as weak people.
remember kids. all for fun ^^

>>716580236
don't come the raw prawn with me boy, all naughty kiddies get a boot in the arse round here. I know i got many didn't turn me into a psychokiller.

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>>716566718
ARE YOU ME???
except I smashed a dogs head with a sledgehammer instead of hunting trip

>>716580405
I'm not op, and I'm not a psychopath, I don't even know why I got into telling that

>>716580236
You really think your 4chan motherFucker?

>>716580274
I disagree, posting on 4chan is the only way I can talk about this, as I said earlier. I also never claimed to be a serial killer of any sought, although I am definetly a sadist and think about taking human life often - I think more often than your average. I don't see how that can really make sense considering every bodies brain develops at a different rate, but if that's true I guess I'm just not a psychopath then

>>716580464
ok well, real OP were you raped in your boypuccci?

>>716580605
nah he said he was only mentally abused.

>>716580564
You don't even understand basic human brain development. It's a science. There's no subjectivity to it. Your brain is not fully developed at 18, that's a fact.

>>716580198
Then I would say it is likely you have it. Imagine whoever you're closest to, be it a family member, girlfriend or a friend. Now imagine torturing them in the worst way possible (gouging out their eyes, ripping out their nails etc). Do you feel bad, do you not feel anything or do you actually get enjoyment of thinking about it?

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>>716566718
>my thoughts were different to that of all my peers,
You can read minds?

>I read all up on it and found that he was basically 100% correct
Your 15 year old friend diagnosed you?

>I have recently discovered the urge I have to take life,
You can't "discover" an urge, your language exposes your lies

> I think it's almost inevitable that one day I will commit murder.
Which shows you have not read up on the condition at all

>I don't know what the point of this post was
Me either Anon, this is very poor bait, you don't know anything about having an anti-social personality disorder. I was diagnosed by some doctors after a court appointed examination. I don't like people like you fucking around taking the piss. It isn't referred to as "sociopath/psychopath" as these cover some very wide territory, I, and most people like me will never have an urge to kill, but people like you make me angry.

>just tell me I'm an edge lord faggot
Where are you Anon?
Are you sitting in your parent's house enjoying their hospitality, wishing you were interesting and so had to attention-whore yourself onto /b/?

Tl;dr
OP is a cunt

>>716580681
i know thats what he said at first but rape victims often in denial

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anon you should became the new Robert Hansen

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>>716580447
This is now a bee movie thread

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>>716580564
Another thing. People like this don't need to talk about it. They're entirely content to do whatever they please and do their absolute best to hide it so they can keep doing it.

>>716580717
I accept this, I do not believe someone can't have a personality disorder because they are 18 though. If you can find some supported material suggesting such, I will believe you

>>716566718

>Join military
>Get paid to kill people
>wut.jpg
>That's right you fucking roody poo
>handsfreefap.jpg
>Get urge out of system
>lol

ok the only way to save yourself from yourself is to put your head in your arse climb up and dissapear

>>716566718
Don't murder someone, do risky things but do not break the law.

Go join the marines, the army, hell even the french foreign legion could be a good call

Look as a psychopath you'll realize you have an edge over people. If you commit murder you'll never get to use that gift to its truest potential.

Lol keep dreaming, yes you're seeking attention, no it's not subconcious. No you're not a psychopath, at best you're cringy and misguided but I have a feeling you knew you were full of shit before you finished typing.

>>716580897
Reread that I specified psychopathy, and do 5 minutes of google searching of your own. The fact that you're requesting sources on such basic principles and your lack of attention to detail is appalling. Autism/10

>>716580863
Not all psychopaths or people with any type of similar personality disorders are killers. It's estimated only 3% of people that are full blown psychopaths will ever commit to something as serious as killing another human. I see that you have an obsession with trying to disprove me for whatever reason, maybe you are struggling with something yourself, so I will just go with it.

Disclaimer: I'm not a psychopath or sociopath

Not OP here, any armchair psychologists want to spitball on why I desperately want to fuck my female cousins?

They're hot, but we grew up together. I'm 19 and they'really 22 - 29. I'd bang any of them. I thought that when you grew up with someone it killed your sexual attraction for them, so what gives?

Don't want to fuck my mom, no sisters.

>>716581029
>as a psychopath you'll realize you have an edge over people.
>implying psychopathy includes physical courage, steady hands under pressure, the ability to operate as part of a team etc
psychos aren't usually great soldiers. being in the military, people get your number pretty quick, if you're a heartless manipulator or tyrant it's hard to get ahead.
This is why a lot of the psycho killers you hear of in the media are usually destroying kids, vulnerable women, old people, street walking prostitutes, homeless people.
OP talks about the urge to kill like a good little edgy faggot, but is highly unlikely to take a couple of guns and a big knife into a police station to have it out, much more likely to pick off easy prey for years or walk into a kindergarten or a movie theater and flip out.
Face it OP, you're a piece of shit for starting this thread and a total fake as well.
Thinking crazy people are special because they are violent or remorseless means you're a fluffy suburban cunt with no ideas.

>>716581423
You don't get it. The smart ones hide behind an impenetrable cloak of charm and charisma. Look at Caesar, Napolean, Alexander, etc, etc; all of these men showed psychopathic tendencies, many leaders do.

>>716581406
Simple, you're a loser with hot cousins. I'm assuming they're about the hottest and possibly onlychicks in your life that come close to you and give you the time of day. You've grown endeared to them from growing up with them and not being treated shittily by them I guess

Everyone bullies at me at school since they think im a pushover. What they dont know is that im actually a fucked up psychopath that can snap any minute

>>716570069
because a life's taken is forbidden he got obsessed with not taking it and he becomes a maniac : he's always thinking ABOUt the murder, but I don't know yet if, he would do it in it's head...

>>716581772
Nah, I'm more or less a normalfag, I have friends who are chicks. Just got out of a relationship actually. Won't dispute that I'm a loser, but I hide my degeneracy pretty well.

>You've grown endeared to them from growing up with them and not being treated shittily by them I guess

Might be onto something there. I was always the pussy kid, so I got bullied hard

>>716581620
Yea and I bet all of them needed to tell lots of people about how psycho they were and how they loved hurting people. No, they took action and took what they wanted through any means necessary. There's no joy in it for psychopaths. Extreme measures is a means to an end. Holy shit this thread has to be bait

>>716581902
Right. You're just a pussy dude.

>>716582020
Sure whatever you say there kiddo, talk shit while you can hide behind a computer.

>>716579235
This is precise about yourself, but when are you gonna tell stories with people you love ? please tell you love them :((

>>716581983
Well you don't find it intriguing that people like that actually have a lot of success in the military? I'm simply pointing out to you that there are some emotionally callous people out there who make excellent soldiers.

>>716566718
Look up why you got to be insane. Did people hurt you? But look for your heart, and shall not go to kill other people. Tell truth on 4chan then !

>>716582178
If you're being bullied that means you're in high school. You're underage and probably shouldn't be browsing this website. I understand you probably have some deeper psychological issue that prevents you from asserting yourself in a way that exudes some kind of confidence or maybe your balls are dropping down finally; it could either or.

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>>716582322
You're comparing foot drones to Caesar and Napolean, yes your claim is outlandish and absurd. You say you're 18 but you're reasoning and argumentative skills say about 15/16. It's clear you've never had to follow an argument through any form of critical analysis

>>716582676
I'm not even OP... i cant tell if you're trolling or just mad.

>>716566718

Yes, you're seeking attention. You probably just saw some documentary or movie about serial killing and thought, "hey, that's like totally what I feel inside and stuffs."

You don't just randomly discover "the urge to take life" at 18 if you're like that. I'll tell you what you really are, though: A simple aspie.