>religion is used to control the masses >most controlled

alright well look at an islamic country then

>religion is used to control the masses
>most religions aren't organized by a group with ideological motives
rly makes u think

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They also forbade the celebration of Xmas.

Great country, really. Just need to improve human rights and such.

Religion is actually a very effective control tool...

Here in the good ole US of A, we have a First Amendment, a Freedom of Religion, meaning you are free to worship (or not) whatever you like, however you like, so long as you obey our other laws (i.e. murder and rape and stuff)... Thus, religion has very little controlling effect on our lives. We can choose to leave a certain religion (though, some, like that certain one whose logo sorta looks like a dollar $ign, are harder to leave), and worship (or not) a different way...

In Iran or Afghanistan or most any other sun-scorched Middle-Eastern shithole, Islam is all but required, and the cultures of the entire region reflect this; war and murder and rape aren't just accepted, but are a way of life in most of these places... And there is no more devoted a Soldier than one who will die for his God; better yet if you can convince him that your will is also his God's will...

>>716538907
>and such

You mean, and everything else, as in, getting rid of their Communist fascist bullshit and feeding their people and allowing free enterprise and worldwide trade?

>>716538479
Yeah. North Korea is basically the perfect non secular state.

>>716539024
Brainwashed American

Religion isnt allowed because the leader of north korea is essentially supposed to be the equivalent of a god. You fucking idiots. They have their own religion.

>>716538479

>most controlled country on earth totally forbids religion of any kind

North Korea allows Buddhism, Confucianism, and Russian Orthodox Christiannity

google is your friend.

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>>716539125
They're neither 'communist' nor 'fascist;' they're Juche. They are, however, a shining example of what a truly patriotic, controlled, well-behaved nation looks like, which is what everyone claims they want these days.
>100% employment
>no homosexuality or other degeneracy
>revisionist history
>ABSOLUTE LOYALTY TO THE STATE
>very low carbon emissions
>closest to meritocracy right now
>control of information flow
>removes the sick and handicapped instead of coddling them at everyone else's expense
>did I mention job security?

>>716538479
nO, IT FORBIDS ANY RELIGION other THAN sTATE rELIGION.

fUCKING rETARD.

>>716539406
it's an atheist state you mong

cult of personality=/=religion

>>716539024
shame murder and rape are illegal. we need to change that.

>>716539508

>did I mention job security?

When you (and the next two generations of your family) can be thrown in a prison camp because your second cousin didn't bow down to the chosen one, I'm not so sure I would call their supposed 100% employment "job security"

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>>716539790
But it is, innit?

I also forgot to mention that there's none of that pesky 'race-mixing' going on in North Korea either. They're a proud, pure-blooded people.

>>716538479
That's why DPRK has the state religion of CULT OF PERSONALITY


0/10
Would s a g again

you faggots are arguing about commie mongoloids on christmas night instead of getting laid and wasted. good job.

>>716538479
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>>716539406
>>716539591

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>>716539955
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>716539919
dumb gooks cant even make their own weapons

they have to buy them from Russia theyre so subhuman

hell, they can't even manufacture their own cars

>>716539955

waiting for a visit from Jizzus

>>716539968
>North Korea is anatheist statewhere public religion is discouraged.[34]There are no known official statistics of religions in North Korea. According to Religious Intelligence, 64.3% of the population areirreligiousadherents of the Juche idea, 16% practiceKorean shamanism, 13.5% practiceChondoism, 4.5% areBuddhist, and 1.7% areChristian.[204]Freedom of religionand the right to religious ceremonies are constitutionally guaranteed, but religions are formally restricted by the government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

>>716538760

Only Ignorant people see the BS posted by other ignorant people and thinks that an Islamic country is totally controlled by Islam.

Don't even bother replying with your "Hurr durr butthurty triggered response v1.01"

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>>716540160
Yet here in the West, our cars, computers, phones, and pretty much everything is garbage compared to their Eastern-made counterparts. Not to mention we beg Easterners to make the stuff *for* us, so we won't pay 3x as much.

>>716540160

They don't buy their weapons, the KPA is outfitted by Russia as a condition of a collective bargaining agreement - a petroleum pipe line project running from Russia to South Korea, no work done by the DPRK other than allowing Russians to build a pipeline, something America apparently can't do very fast lol... tl;dr free weapons and oil for the fat paintbrush head in charge

>>716540340
You do realize that America sends the parts to China to have their workers assemble and then send the devices back, right?

If it's shit quality, we were the ones who made it, they put it together.

We're growing our own food in the USA and sending it to China to process and ship back.

Eastern made goods arent "better" than anything made here, we fucking made them.

>>716540226

gotta take any reports about what exactly happens there with a grain of salt

>>716540656
hence why the "formally retricted" by the government is more credible than "oh yeah of courze ppls are freee!!1"

also keeping in mind they are ideoligically communist which is an atheist ideology, it's unlikely they actually tolerate much religion

Statism is a religion.

>>716540819
>american education

>>716540789
Their supreme leader is deified in a way that is not distinguishable from any other religion. They make radical supernatural claims about him. Juche is very much a religious ideology.

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>>716540615
I...don't think you quite understand what "made" and "build" mean. Granted, Americans own the companies themselves, but someone else (Easterners) are actually putting the products together. Even if it is in poor quality, Westerners still buy the products. We all do, and we don't think twice about it.

As far as our food goes, you should look into greater detail about where our food truly comes from, and the meaning of 'comparative advantage.' I'll give you something to start off with by looking at Canada's wheat vs America's apples.

As much as we claim to hate neoliberalism, we benefit the most from it.

>>716538479
indoctrination is used to control the masses.
it can be religious, political, ideological, etc.

religious just happens to be the most widespread type.

>>716540996
please read
>>716539591


if you can't distinguish the 2 there's a problem

>>716540995
>assuming I'm American
I'm guessing you probably don't know what statism is. That's okay. Stay in school, bud.

>>716538479
politics and religion are two methods of controlling the masses, they are not always mutually exclusive,

>>716541096
That's cool. There is literally no difference between Juche and any other religion.

>>716541117
>isn't american
>can't distinguish ideology from religion
even more pathetic desu

>>716541184
>no argument
k

>>716541209
What's the difference? Educate me. They worship an omnipotent and omniscient dead man.

Calling something communist and atheist doesn't make it so.

>>716541369
statism doesn't worship anyone or anything
try reading this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism

OP is a fucking faggot
die shitstain

>>716541507
Again, what is the difference? Nationhood is inherently non secular.

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>>716538479
Simple, communism and media culture are the religions of the 20th century.

>>716541621
if nationhood is non secular how do you explain the exidtence of all the secular nation states in europe?

>>716541632
retard

When Trump lowers our Corporate tax rate to the global average, and China is taxed 45% on each product shipped back to the USA, effectively forcing our corporations to hire american workers to do those jobs, it will start WW3 with China.

Several hundred million Chinese will starve to death within the first 6 months alone. The entire EU can't sustain China, they can't even beat the USA or even rival us with all of Europe combining to try and fuck us over.

Some sad times are uh coming friends

>>716541762
I don't. Why don't you?
They have their own flags, languages, laws and constitutions (doctrine). Is faith and obedience not required for a nation to exist?

>>716538479
>Really makes you think.
only if you're a simplistic retard.

>>716540519
They get weapons from China too, not? You'd think so...

>>716540340
>our cars, computers, phones, and pretty much everything is garbage compared to their Eastern-made counterparts.
>pretty much everything is garbage

Top fucking kek m8... You can't cherry-pick the countries shit comes from in order to compare the production of two countries...

How is North Korea's automobile industry compared to America's? Not Japan's, not China's, not Eastern Russia or Thailand or Vietnam or anywhere else... North Korea's....

How is North Korea's production of ANYTHING compared to America's?

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>>716541788
You watch too many movies.

>>716538907
also improve everything. what part doesn't need improvement? other than the lack of co2 production?

>>716542147
That's what you think. What do you think will happen? China will not lower their currency to the level it has to be to appease America...they couldnt compete at that rate.

It was China or Russia, Hillary lost her fifth column pledge to Trumps fifth column backers. It was coming regardless.

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>>716542059
>everything produced in North Korea sucks in comparison to the U.S.!
>doesn't see that this is literally protectionism vs liberal economic policies
You don't get it, do you?

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>>716541002
>and we don't think twice about it.
Then explain why many people try to look for US-made items. Explain why Trump was elected...

>you should look into greater detail about where our food truly comes from,

I dunno about you, but the bulk of my food comes from my own state. YES, I know this for a fact.... But then, we've got more cows than people in this state, so it only makes sense that fresh-grown produce is abundant... Shitholes like New York City and Los Angeles don't really have that option, since 90% of their state's population are users and not producers...

It's kewl, though... We're more than happy making bank off your devotion to soy products...

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DPRK Dump in progress

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>>716542494
>Explain why Trump was elected
Ohoho, I could go on all night about that, but so much has been said already. For that, let's just remind ourselves that it's easier to vote with one's gut than it is with one's intellect, especially if the one voting is severely lacking the latter.

>why people try to look for US-made items
They can say they 'try,' but 90% of the time, these are the same people driving to Wal-Mart in a non-American vehicle to go buy as many non-American products as they can afford. Why? Because it's cheaper.

And I don't 'devote' to soy products; I just don't eat garbage or use a microwave.

>>716542774
Lol.....

You're such a pseudo intellectual

You can buy American products at comparable prices to ones made in China, Taiwan, vietnam etc.

If you've done your research, then you know that the only time buying American is expensive is when its healthcare related.

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>>716541184
Juche worships the Eternal Leader (Kim Il-Sung or whatever, the first asshole in chief)....

>Islam worships Allah and the prophet Mohammad
>Taoism and Buddhism worship no formal Gods, but instead focus on the practitioner reaching a certain "enlightenment" and "inner peace" and the like.
>Hinduism, Paganism, etc. worship multiple Gods.
>In Buddhism, anyone devoted enough and practicing enough can become a "living Buddha", mummifying themselves in holes in the ground etc, becoming super-important figures to other Buddhists...
>Scientology uses auditing to measure thetan levels and steal money from gullible fucktards, doesn't give two shits about "god"...
>Catholicism allows you to pay your way into heaven
>yfw: you're a fucking "enlightened" atheist moron.

>>716539591

Lel, then isn't christianity the personal cult to jesus and god

Islam isn't the cult of personality of mohammad and god

Judaism isn't the cult to abraham and god

>>716538479
They are sintoists, but i support your point

>>716538479
Juche is the state religion
Kim Il Sun is the god emperor
Kim Jong Il is sanguinius
Kim Jong Un is malcador the sigillite

>>716543047
That such a simplistic view that you'd be labelled mentally retarded in any debate

>>716541632
Yep... Socialism is the name of the game in the 21st century; all these "free-thinking" atheist dipshits treat secular statism as their new religion and devote their entire being to it.

>>716538479
>implying the only way to control the masses is through religion

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>>716542998
>you can buy them at comparable prices
Sure, if you (usually) live in the middle of nowhere, surrounded entirely by Mom and Pop shops who don't have to compete with bigger stores/chains that offer the same products at lower prices (and in greater quantities).

>only healthcare-stuff is more expensive
Doubt that, but even I wouldn't trust needles from, say, Kazakhstan (just an example).

>>716542893
No wonder people starve there. That fat fuck looks like he's eating the whole peninsula.

>>716538479
religion and government fight for control of the masses

you don't use your brain too often, do you?

>>716543252
What are you going on about? Every product in my home has the "MADE IN USA" label on it. My home maintenance fees have barely gone up buying American, my grocery bill has slightly increased, and my american made car has the same comparative maintenance costs as its foreign competitor....

>>716542893
Got damn is he getting fat...

The only North Korean to be overweight...

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>>716543632
All I read was
>everything in my home's gone up one way or another, but at least I managed to be a 'patriotic' American by doing this
Which is fine; it's your money, after all. Not everyone else wants to be you though.

>>716543199

You know what else makes you look like a retard? Ad hominem redirection attempts.

Like the jewish expect their messiah or other christians expect jesus to come back, all of them are human figures. God is a human figure. It is a cult of personality of somebody you never met, cannot meet. You only know of him through a book that was mainly written by people who didn't know him, and through oral tradition passed on to you. It is cult of personality 101, you adore a figure, just as in NK they are forced to adore Kim Jong Un.

>>716543778
Then your reading comprehension is fucking shite m8

That's not what I said at all

Keep pushing your GLOBALIST agenda, faggot

I'll keep buying American and supporting my own country without even feeling it in my wallet

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I don't care how crazy they are. They are savage as fuck...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2k-URmL-Y

North Koreans does have a religion, they worship their dead dictators. Seriously, those dead fucks are still considered to hold office.

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>>716543982
>MUH GLOBALISM!!
Which harks back to my original point, that
>the main people who benefit from neoliberalism (or 'globalism' if you prefer) are the ones who seem to have a problem with it (but only on the surface)
And I have no 'agenda' to push on an imageboard run by a Japanese guy, modeled after a previous Japanese board. I just hope, for your sake, your computer and all of the parts both in and outside of it were also American-made.

>>716538479
What is chondoism for 500 trebek.

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>>716544015

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>>716544054
And who do *we* worship?

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/lance-wallnau-donald-trump-was-sent-by-god/

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>>716538479
>most controlled country on earth totally forbids religion of any kind
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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>>716544015
>meanwhile

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>>716541632

>>716539591
>cult of personality=/=religion

You really know nothing of either religion or NK, do you?

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>>716543982
>>716544170
Also, it should be noted that North Korea feels the SAME WAY about 'globalism' as you. It's only a 'problem' when they do it though.

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>>716543215
The new cult of the 21st century are the self-help books.
"You can do anything with the power of your mind"

If China didn't back the DPRK and the USA didn't back the ROK who would win?

>>716544015
kek

>>716546487
Im throwing my money behind ROK.

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>>716542893
>>716542954
>>716543070
>>716543134
>>716543206
>>716543374
>>716544633
>>716545339
>>716545471
>>716545910
>>716546024
>>716546081
>mfw: all that shitty Cold War-era second-hand Soviet/Chinese war tech

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>>716538479
lemme correct you there
>religion WAS used to controll the masses

these days it's loosing it's grasp

>>716544340
The dollar.

>>716546487
Honestly. Just those two. DPRK

It would be a nasty war but the DPRK would steamroll south.

>>716546598
A 40 year old Scud will kill you the same as a 20 year old Tomahawk.