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I turned 23 on Wednesday and was introduced into my local Freemasons

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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I turned 23 on Wednesday and was introduced into my local Freemasons Lodge Yesterday. AMA
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Enjoy meeting on the level, Entered Apprentice.
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>>716326791
In all honesty... what would I have to do to be extended an invitation?
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the fuck do masons even do?
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are you a clinton troll
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23 is a sacred number monogamist masons / Thelma practitioners

i'm 24 usa ct fag

my best friends of past 5 years grandfather is actually grandmaster of our cities lodge. we stopped talking a few months ago unfortunately against my will
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stop following me. or am i the one looking for you
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>>716327089
Express your interest in joining.
Simply look up the website of one of your local lodges, and use whatever methods of contact are available on their site.
You will then usually be invited to a guest evening, where you will learn a little but about freemasonry, get to know Brothers of the Lodge over time etc. This phase can go on for several months. In my case i was on my first guest evening in November 2015. You will then at some point be asked if you want to join, if you made a good impression on the Brothers of the Lodge.
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>>716327255

muh dubz!!
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>>716327132
Freemasonry is all about Self-Imrpovement and character building at its core, and uses the companionship of a brotherhood of individuals with similar mindsets to help each other reach this goal.
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>>716327507
I'm also 23, I have a few respectable people who could vouch for me, I don't doubt I could become a freemason if I wanted. But I'm so socially inept I doubt I ever will.
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>>716327255
# based
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>>716326791
freemasons used to be considered a cult and apparently got creepy as the ranks increased, you reckon its changed?
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>>716327332
>You will then at some point be asked if you want to join, if you made a good impression on the Brothers of the Lodge.

You cannot be asked to join our honorable fraternity. It has to be of your own free will and accord.

I've been a Freemason for over 16 years.
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Remember your 4 cardinal virtues, K.T. reporting in.all I have to say. Remember your first degree and enjoy building from the cornerstone
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>>716326791
Did they make you fuck the goat yet?
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>>716330981
York Rite?
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>>716326791
FOOL
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>>716331255
Really? That's one of their initiations? Sounds like a legit non-cult, non-trap club sign me up.
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>>716330515
>Free will
>Doctrine
In our libraries masons were marked of as honeypot of sorts. Getting into higher positions are discriminatory. The real tricky stuff belonged to certain qualities as we observed with distance.
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wtf is this shit and why have I seen this logo on a few 19th century buildings
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>>716327507
So freemasons are jews?
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>>716330981
I never joined the York Rite or Shrine, but I did join the O.E.S. and the Scottish Rite. Things get a little "deep" in the latter degrees.
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>>716332193
>excerpts from the Protocols
SECRET SOCIETIES

4. Meantime, however, until we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the contrary way: we shall create and multiply free masonic lodges in all the countries of the world, absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public activity, for these lodges we shall find our principal intelligence office and means of influence. All these lodges we shall bring under one central administration, known to us alone and to all others absolutely unknown, which will be composed of our learned elders. The lodges will have their representatives who will serve to screen the above-mentioned administration of MASONRY and from whom will issue the watchword and program. In these lodges we shall tie together the knot which binds together all revolutionary and liberal elements. Their composition will be made up of all strata of society. The most secret political plots will be known to us and fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception. AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THESE LODGES WILL BE ALMOST ALL THE AGENTS OF INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL POLICE since their service is for us irreplaceable in the respect that the police is in a position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate, but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents, ET CETERA.
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5. The class of people who most willingly enter into secret societies are those who live by their wits, careerists, and in general people, mostly light-minded, with whom we shall have no difficulty in dealing and in using to wind up the mechanism of the machine devised by us. If this world grows agitated the meaning of that will be that we have had to stir up in order to break up its too great solidarity. BUT IF THERE SHOULD ARISE IN ITS MIDST A PLOT, THEN AT THE HEAD OF THAT PLOT WILL BE NO OTHER THAN ONE OF OUR MOST TRUSTED SERVANTS. It is natural that we and no other should lead MASONIC activities, for we know whither we are leading, we know the final goal of every form of activity whereas the GOYIM have knowledge of nothing, not even of the immediate effect of action; they put before themselves, usually, the momentary reckoning of the satisfaction of their self-opinion in the accomplishment of their thought without even remarking that the very conception never belonged to their initiative but to our instigation of their thought ...
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>>716332514
>>716332468
GENTILES ARE STUPID

6. The GOYIM enter the lodges out of curiosity or in the hope by their means to get a nibble at the public pie, and some of them in order to obtain a hearing before the public for their impracticable and groundless fantasies: they thirst for the emotion of success and applause, of which we are remarkably generous. And the reason why we give them this success is to make use of the high conceit of themselves to which it gives birth, for that insensibly disposes them to assimulate our suggestions without being on their guard against them in the fullness of their confidence that it is their own infallibility which is giving utterance to their own thoughts and that it is impossible for them to borrow those of others .... You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the GOYIM can be brought to a state of unconscious naivete in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success, though it be nothing more than the stoppage of the applause they had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success .... BY SO MUCH AS OURS DISREGARD SUCCESS IF ONLY THEY CAN CARRY THROUGH THEIR PLANS, BY SO MUCH THE "GOYIM" ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE ANY PLANS ONLY TO HAVE SUCCESS. This psychology of theirs materially facilitates for us the task of setting them in the required direction. These tigers in appearance have the souls of sheep and the wind blows freely through their heads. We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM
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>>716332193
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>>716332514
.... They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality ....

7. If we have been able to bring them to such a pitch of stupid blindness is it not a proof, and an amazingly clear proof, of the degree to which the mind of the GOYIM is undeveloped in comparison with our mind? This it is, mainly, which guarantees our success.
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>>716326791
lol, useless retards need to make 'exclusive' group to be someone in life
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>>716326791
Hello. Bot thread must sage.
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>>716332468
>>716332514
>>716332594
>>716332620
GENTILES ARE CATTLE

8. And how far-seeing were our learned elders in ancient times when they said that to attain a serious end it behooves not to stop at any means or to count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end .... We have not counted the victims of the seed of the GOY cattle, though we have sacrificed many of our own, but for that we have now already given them such a position on the earth as they could not even have dreamed of. The comparatively small numbers of the victims from the number of ours have preserved our nationality from destruction.

9. Death is the inevitable end for all. It is better to bring that end nearer to those who hinder our affairs than to ourselves, to the founders of this affair. WE EXECUTE MASONS IN SUCH WISE THAT NONE SAVE THE BROTHERHOOD CAN EVER HAVE A SUSPICION OF IT, NOT EVEN THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES OF OUR DEATH SENTENCE, THEY ALL DIE WHEN REQUIRED AS IF FROM A NORMAL KIND OF ILLNESS ..... Knowing this, even the brotherhood in its turn dare not protest. By such methods we have plucked out of the midst of MASONRY the very root of protest against our disposition. While preaching liberalism to the GOY we at the same time keep our own people and our agents in a state of unquestioning submission.
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>>716331884

Some of the information posted was misleading or the Bro:. misunderstood. For example, when I joined in 2000, the process was very quick and basically involved my interest more than anything. I contacted the secretary of the local Blue Lodge and asked for a "Petition For Degrees" which I later received and completed. The lodge met and eventually put out a committee on me to ascertain my character, history, etc. They already knew that several members of my family were known members throughout the state. I was initiated Entered Apprentice shortly after being voted in, probably about 2 weeks later. I learned the categorical lecture, both questions and answers, in a single week. They were impressed. I eventually went on to become a Master Mason and earned a "C" card as a lecturer for several years. Now I'm mainly an academic Freemason.
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>>716332776
10. Under our influence the execution of the laws of the GOYIM has been reduced to a minimum. The prestige of the law has been exploded by the liberal interpretations introduced into this sphere. In the most important and fundamental affairs and questions, JUDGES DECIDE AS WE DICTATE TO THEM, see matters in the light wherewith we enfold them for the administration of the GOYIM, of course, through persons who are our tools though we do not appear to have anything in common with them - by newspaper opinion or by other means .... Even senators and the higher administration accept our counsels. The purely brute mind of the GOYIM is incapable of use for analysis and observation, and still more for the foreseeing whither a certain manner of setting a question may tend.

11. In this difference in capacity for thought between the GOYIM and ourselves may be clearly discerned the seal of our position as the Chosen People and of our higher quality of humanness, in contradistinction to the brute mind of the GOYIM. Their eyes are open, but see nothing before them and do not invent (unless perhaps, material things). From this it is plain that nature herself has destined us to guide and rule the world.
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>>716332776
cant you shitpost somewhere else
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>>716332468
>>716332514
>>716332594
>>716332620
>>716332776

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a known hoax. Just like Leo Taxil. Read more.
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>>716332963
he knows it is, he just wants to shill
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>>716332963
Bot thread. Futile
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>>716332682
>triggered jew pawn that already jacked off in the hitler coffin to turn back detected

>>716332963
HE BELIEVES IT WAS A HOAX LOL
No, no it's not like Jews are trying to hide all this shit by calling it a hoax or anything, you idiot.
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>>716333060
>>716332903
>>716332682
I couldn't help but notice you filthy cocksuckers are suddenly concerned about a "bot thread" and "it's a hoax" the fucking second shit started getting posted. Can you Jewish/Masonic swine be a bit more subtle?
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>>716332903
Thx for saying it before I did. This freemason jewfag is worse than the cock sucking idiots spamming bananas in YLYL threads
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>>716333064

Isn't it odd how all those words are in a work of fiction from 1864 called "Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" by Maurice Joly? Hmm...
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>>716332963
Nice infant raping pan doll you piece of shit. You're clearly not embroiled in this satanic jewry or hardcore damage controlling or anything you spineless piece of shit.
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>>716332779
There are many aspects that wern't explained but returning an argument is not for today. Never the less a pyramid scheme.
>eh eh :P
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>>716333250
Isn't it odd how weak-willed satan worshippers cowtow to Jewish bait, traps and influence and eat cointel propaganda for breakfast every morning?
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>>716333338
Its not satanic jewry. Trust me.
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>>716332468
>>716332514
>>716332594
>>716332620
>>716332776
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>>716332866
This is definitely worth reading in full.
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>>716333564
It's a trap cult you goon. Read the "olde thyme debunked fiction" above for a clue.
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>>716333616
Concurs, but no a mason doctrine.
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>>716326791

wow cool op you a motherfucking fag, cool.
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>>716333933
yeah, that you would know. to you it's just a big self-embetterment club where you do charity and drink beer and have fun. you really think trap cults are going to stand under a marquee of "trap cult" do you? jesus. these fucking fatally conceited masons lol
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>>716327132
fish fry
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>>716327132
fuck each other in the ass and keep secrets
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>>716326791
OP did you get tattoo?
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>>716334098
Prima facie and ones that go off a deep end are what get special contenders into the "trap cult" part. Enter of their free will, shoulda read the fine print sucker; something to that effect
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>>716334299
I only masturbated in the hitler coffin i didnt fuck the goat or get tatted yet
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>>716334403
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>>716327132
Something somewhere.
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>>716334506
Same way getting a female prego is like falling into a trap cult. States you are responsible even if you didnt know.
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>>716330515
What level mason are you?

Have you seen any rituals and shit that made you think it was satanic? or is that all lies?
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>>716334997
t;He's not gonna see shit if he's not meant to.
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j>>716334997
Obviously an Entered Apprentice, seeing as how he just joined...
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>>716335265

samefag, my bad, I thought you quoted op. 16 years, I imagine a Master Mason, which is the 3rd degree (the max of Blue Lodge)
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Ill kill all of you freemasons myself
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>>716333338
Pan doesn't look like Baphomet. And Pan is a God-Form whereas Baphomet is a symbol of many things. Satan is just an archetype. All of these things are projections of the consciousness, although they are not "merely projections" and must be dealt with in some capacity. I don't know what you mean by damge control? That's odd.

>>716333479
Pyramid schemes are business models. Freemasonry may "enhance" some aspects of the economy, locally and internationally, but it is not a business nor is it a religion. It contains symbols and allegories older than both business and religion. If you want to get down to it, there is a couple of symbols that are much older than known languages. We don't know how old Freemasonry is, or where it came from. No one does. That's why it's sometimes called the "lost arts" or that its history is lost in antiquity.
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>>716326791
Literally the worst time in history to join up. You'll be having gay sex with old men for no benefit as they'll be ousted within a decade. Have fun.
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>>716327132
its basically a circlejerk to get each other jobs and privileges that regular people wont get.

for example most high ranking cops are masons because masons are known to infest police forces and they only promote other masons to the high positions.

they are basically jews. helping each other out and fuck anyone else.
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>>716335472
>And Pan is a God-Form whereas Baphomet is a symbol of many things.
Ohhhh tell us all about it, good friend
>inb4 secret, own path to truth etc


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>>716335711
Damn, when I have gay sex with old men at secret clubs, I want something out of it!

Seriously, it's amazing how mentally non-competent masons are, so deep in the woods it's not funny.
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>>716334997
There are no levels, really. The highest "degree" is Master Mason. Everything beyond that is an appendage. I've been a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite since 2003, damn, 13 years now. Time flies.

I can't comment on specifics of degrees but you can find a copy of "A Bridge To Light" anywhere and read it yourself. You will find more Rosicrucian, Alchemy, Qabalah/Kabbala, and Ciphers than anything "Satanic". I don't believe in "Satan" per se. It's just an idea or an archetype. Most all of that misinformation comes from misquoted Albert Pike works taken out of context and the famous Leo Taxil hoax.

Pic related. It's an old pic but my card will say 2017 when I get it. I paid my dues late in the year this time around so I haven't received my new sticker yet. Southern Jurisdiction changed a lot of the member cards to a higher quality grade of plastic like a driver license.
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>>716336057
Masons are pretty dumb, especially the ones signing on in 2016, the year of Kek. However, I don't think they're dumb enough to forget that incompetent is a word.
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>>716336057
>mentally non-competent
>mentally
>non-competent
>irony
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>>716327089
2b1ask1
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>>716336281
No, non-competence is a mental state, incompetence is a general lack of competency. You stupid asshole. It refers to your hijacked consciousness regarding the shape of your cognitive world-view. The fact that your cognition has been groomed an a manner insensible to you obviously leads you to believe this ideology that you hold is of your own mind, and not the wholesale of your will and mind's eye. That's sad.
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>>716336562
your english teacher should be fired
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>>716336281
There is no such thing in nature as "all of X are pretty dumb". This is a fallacious argument.

>>716336525
This person knows.
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>>716336628
That's not an argument you saturn worshipping piece of garbage.
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>>716326791
Brother I have just had my interview and am being initiated into my lodge this coming February
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>>716336562
it's actually just not a word mr. spirit man. It can be a word in law, as in I don't compete with you you don't compete with me.
>>716336709
Then how come all masons are dumb? Are you saying all niggers aren't dumb?
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>>716336745
Brother my mind is compartmentalized and I don't even understand the concept of mental compartmentalization.
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>>716336562
Are you referring to decompensation?
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>>716336759
It is a word. Competent is a word and the negative prefix is valid. You're not sucking enough old man's dicks bruh. Non-competence (a state of) is a common term used by hypnotists. >>716336901
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Hi dads
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>>716336759
>It can be a word in law, as in I don't compete with you you don't compete with me.

thats referred to as "no contest"
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>>716336759
>Then how come all masons are dumb? Are you saying all niggers aren't dumb?

This is a fallacy. It is impossible in nature. It has never happened, nor will it ever.
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>>716336945
>common term used by hypnotists
>hypnotists

well im convinced
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>>716337101
All tall people are taller than midgets. Is that a fallacy you retarded nigger?
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>>716336260
nice to find a brother /b/rother
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>>716326791
more or less, the Freemasons are nothing like what they were even 30 years ago, let alone 200+

get at me when you're in S & B
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>>716336260
Fucking intrigued by this shit. Thanks for the info, you sound legit.

There is a lodge around the corner from my house, every month or something I think they do some gathering because I see a lot of top cars and men in suits go in, guessing they're all lawyers, doctors, accountants and all that.

Has being a mason improved your life, financially or emotionally?
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>>716336945
It's funny you bring up hypnotism. Every single conversation you have is a form of subtle hypnotism. All language exchange is hypnotism. Almost the entirety of a human's life is spent in an altered state of consciousness akin to being hypnotized. Read some Gurdjieff or some Milton Erickson.
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>>716336901
>Non-competence (a state of) is a common term used by hypnotists.
>>716336994
>>716337135
Which is why I used the term, that SPECIFIC TERM, to refer to the mason's mental non-competence. When your capacity is systemically (and insensibly) removed, a person is said to be non-competent.

Hypnosis is pretty well known, you discredit it but it just shows how little you understanf psychology. These cult traps all practice hypnosis, the same way pastors and other cult leader do. They use psychological science, (which you probably rerfer to as majik LOL) that's considerably more advanced than a basic level to which you could "compete". Put shortly, you never had a chance. The absolute mental non-competence of the mason leaves him self-assured that it is his own thoughts and desires that has created his current ideology.
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>>716337447
kys
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>>716336260
so you have been travelling for a good bit, how many lodges do you visit a year?
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>>716337549
not sure if mentally ill or pathologically stupid
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>>716337447
It's true.
Don't think of a blue polar bear.
now, imagine the sound of a large black dick smacking you in the cheek. Imagine the hefty weight of the thing rubbing across your lips.
You are now a little bit more of a faggot, thanks to hypnosis.
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>>716337447
>Every single conversation you have is a form of subtle hypnotism.
Idiot. The natural conscious mind is open to suggestion at all times, this is true. HYPNOTISM as a concept is an unnatural, pre-meditated subversion of consciousness. It's manipulation. Systemically opening channels in, and implanting suggestions to, another's conscious mind is to exploit a state of NON-COMPETENCE in another person. This is what Jewish Masonry does to you, while you hypnotize children to rape them. The concept of psychological manipulation for the purpose of exploitation remains the same.
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>>716326791

Master Mason checking in.. Enjoy your journey OP
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cool, im only 22.
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>>716337549
This guy has taken a correct wiff
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>>716337939
>>716337823
Not an argument.
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>>716338002
You win
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>>716338002
its difficult to argue with fantasy and delusion
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>>716337174
Why yes, yes it is. It's called Ignoratio elenchi, also known as irrelevant conclusion. You just presented an additional argument that is logically valid, but fails to address the issue in question. This is commonly known as missing the point.

>>716337187
Thank you. I'm glad to be carrying on a tradition that I find to be a worthy inquiry into the mysteries of existence.

>>716337341
You're very welcome.

When you meet in a lodge, everyone is equal. There is never any talk about politics or religion allowed in the confines of sacred space.

It's improved my life like a double-edged sword. The Great Work is called that for a reason. It is work. It is greatly difficult. You begin to examine yourself in ways you never have before. Some people can't handle it. I've had several challenges along the way, and many presently. I didn't join for financial improvement, but it's there if people seek it out.
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>>716338155
Lucky for you, I don't care about "winning" or "losing". The need for recognition is more of the mason's vice.
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>>716338361
Fine. You did not win or lose. You make a valid point that must be exalted
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>>716338257
>time and patience
...thanks brother
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>>716326791
What are the membership fees like?
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>>716326791
WHAT IS ARE FREEMASONS AND WHAT IS IT FOR???

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF IT FOR TODAY?

NO ONE CAN ANSWER THE FUCKIN QUESTION.

WHAT ARE THE CERIMONIES FOR??!?!?!

I know of a freemason club where i live and the people there dress fucking weird.
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>>716337636
There is no true "death" so that is also impossible.

>>716337698
I rarely leave my apartment. I'm disabled.

>>716337849
You're mixing up different disciplines and ideas. The first one is "Ironic Process Theory" or the white bear problem. This is when deliberate attempts to suppress certain thoughts or ideas cause them to be more prominent.

The rest has very little to do with conversational hypnosis.

>>716337866
Hypnotism is whatever we "agree" it is in a present moment. You cannot use hypnotism to exploit someone. You can't even use sodium pentothal to exploit someone or make them do something against their will, unless they really unconsciously want to tell you. This is exactly why they stopped using it as much in the O.S.S. and eventually altogether in the C.I.A.
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>>716339219
Think of this way. If the current socio economics failed. Masons have a working protocol to follow to survive.
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Hey, do masons and associated denominations (siners, oto, eos, rainbow, demo....) abuse ancient knowledge? I hear them talk about nature but do they respect natural orders when they're always planting thoughtforms and steering and manipulating unsuspecting people? What about all the gay pedo-homo-sex-rape and bestiality? Is that conducive to advancing humanity? Why did you do it?
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>>716339431
*shriners
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>>716339290
>The rest has very little to do with conversational hypnosis.
Sounds like someone's upset that they thought about a slightly salty coco scented cock slapping them and entering their pouty mouth.
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>>716339290
Disabled. I've got my eye on you
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>>716339290
thank you. i asked about travelling because i am overseas, though my lodge falls under the jurisdiction of California, we regularly interact with other lodges across different jurisdictions, is it the same wherever you are? is affiliation a regular part of the work culture there?
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>>716339290
>"agree"
Don't hide behind things like this. Manipulating others, particularly the less experienced, by exploiting their ignorance for your own personal gains only to pass the hot potato of responsibility back to your target is sociopathic.

>You cannot use hypnotism to exploit someone.
Apparently, you say the opposite of what you really know to be true. That's fantastic, I think you intended that to be taken seriously.
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>>716338888
Thank you. Nice quads.

>>716338960
When you join, it's a little expensive for some members' budgets. But you can pay it out usually.

My Blue Lodge dues this year were $35.00, Order of the Eastern Star dues were around $18.00, and the heaviest dues were Scottish Rite weighing in at $85.00. But you have to understand, there are other "privileges" that come with being a dues-paid active member of these Orders. I can't tell you what those are, but they're worth more than any amount of money.

>>716339219
Read the thread. Your answers are already posted. But I like to think of it as "a peculiar system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols."
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>>716340234
Is there financing available?
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>>716340234
>Can't tell.
Abandon thread.
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>>716340234
>Peculiar
Yeah so is ours in an effort not to "break the magic"
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>>716326791
low level trash to be exterminated when the time arises you will play your part, you just sold your soul to the beast system
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>>716340957
Using their tools is prima facie that you are a subject of the systems they created
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>>716340234
>I can't tell you what those are, but they're worth more than any amount of money.

shemales right? like really sexy ones that dress up like baphomet? XD
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>>716339431
The O.T.O. is separate altogether. It has no affiliation with Freemasonry. Although I was an initiated member for many years. I am also a member of the Order of the A:.A:. presently. The rest of your post is laughable.

>>716339636
Clearly I am very upset right now.

>>716339790
I don't understand. What are you talking about? Please explain.

>>716340160
It depends on what sort of work you are involved in. I don't really understand the local "work culture" where I presently live, so I don't know for sure.

>>716340184
Um... Huh? I'm totally lost. How do you hide behind the idea that realities are co-created? All words in any language were created by someone. We determine by consensus what they mean and how much control they have over our lives. Have you ever sat down and thought about how without language, most of our lives would disintegrate into chaos? What language do you dream in? How can you protest against language without being forced to use the very thing you are attempting to protest against? These types of inquiries are important for some people and not so much for others.

I have to depart soon. Last minute replies will be made and I may return later.
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>>716340342
kek'd
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>>716326791
how does it feel to get fucked in the ass by several members of the geriatric community?
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>>716326791
Are there a lot of Jew masons?
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>>716340342
I don't know for sure. I'm positive a Brother would help you out if you needed it. But you must understand, being financially stable is one of the things they will investigate when they send out a committee on you. However, there is definitely a financial plan for a perpetual membership option. Once that is completed, you never pay dues again for the remainder of your natural life.

>>716340411
Why abandon thread? I've spent a massive amount of time and energy to bring some order to this thread for serious inquirers about these fraternal organizations. I've been more than kind. There are "secrets" that are there for a reason. You don't know about them until you are prepared to know about them. Some of them are practical things, like always having a safe and secure place to lodge and a warm meal while you are physically traveling. Some of them are more subtle secrets that only you know yourself, only you do not know that you know. Yet.

>>716340655
I have no idea what you mean by this. Ours? Who is the "ours" that you are referring to?

>>716341139
Sure.
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>>716341282
>disintegrate into chaos?
Can you please elaborate on this and only this. Tell me more about chaos.
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>>716341114
You're born into it but still have choices
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>>716342597
Without some form of language, you couldn't communicate that your appendix just burst. You would just die. Or if you needed to know what time a meeting is, first off, there would be no measurement of time whatsoever and no location because there would be no maps or geographical boundaries. Language rules our entire lives. Without it, there is no Order.

"In the beginning was the Word..."

My next post will be my last.

Make it count.
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Fuck off, freemasons suck
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>>716326791
Welcome to the gay club
You will just become like any other sucker that adopts an idolistic religion

Retard your family is suckered in

Check your values and see what gives them value before you start relating everthying to god satan and jesus later on the track bro
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>>716342994
my little rabbi. language is magic. symbols is magic. language is sin. imagine if everyone would only locomote in a motorized kart even if they could walk.the legs atrophy after a reasonable lifetime of using the motorized kart. organized language is faulty communication, people can lie and create your reality based on them.
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>>716342994
Babylon.
~BAH-bee-lahn
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Freemasonry is nothing more than a international club designed to use the worlds forgotten tribal ways as a loophole to keep the world from truly moving forward past the usage of money and primitive energy sources. The very fact that they are capable of both global destruction through high-ranking members, while simultaneously also having backup plans of how to survive said destruction, is what puts this theory in concrete. Freemasonry and other clubs such as Skull and Bones are constantly virtue signaling each other. It's when the virtue signaling itself stops occurring that you should question what is going on.

Prove me wrong.
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>>716343741
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>>716343741
In the back of my mind this is what I'm constantly thinking about, there's enough evidence out there.
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>>716327132
They are involved in criminal activities and their number 1 rule is secrecy and plausable deniability

They are involved in satanic belief rituals that build the ego
Molestation of children
Torture
Maniplating and preparing the public mind for war to profit the loan institution (bank) which is deeply rooted in occult belief and other psycolgical tools to keep a corrupt staff

Free masonry is just another tool
Another belief
They make think what they want you to think what the ego is
The ego is purely emotion and the first emotion is fear
Because all fear stems from time
FUCK THE SYSTEM
Kill all idolisers
Restore freedom
Freemasons aren't what they once used to be.
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>>716327507
Sounds like a cult to me
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>>716344989
not one single case in the history of masonry

fail
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My father and grandfather are Freemasons or Shriners or whatever the fuck but they refuse to tell me anything about it except vauge bullshit about everyone being equal and how there's no discrimination and it's all charity work, but I don't buy it I just want to know what they do and I will find out by maybe joining them one day because Freemasons never crack about what goes on, no matter how drunk, old, sick, pressured or investigated and harassed. One day I will win, I will show my grandfather that I will find out, as god as my witness I shall find out what the Freemasons are about. But only for me, not for you guys, all I have ever wanted out of life was to never be able to die from anything and explore the universe and learn so many new things, the Freemasons will be my first step towards my quest more invincibility/immortality. I pray to god I don't die.
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>>716342294
I'm curious, I have many works of Crowley and pike yet all they speak about is how there is no secret to life. When I read morals and dogma I found that the main goal was a method of loci and kind of figured out that we are building onto ourselfs. Is the great work just self improvement? What do I have to gain from joining aside from networking?
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>>716327132
Swing from trees in 2017.
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Do you get one of those extending wrist blades when you sign up?

How much did assassin's Creed get right?
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>>716327132
Make stuff
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>>716345587
I'm pretty sure there weren't Freemasons in assassins creed
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>>716345587

Bump, if they give out the secret wrist blades I'll go into Mason office in town and film me asking them for one
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>>716345385

dude being 3rd generation in that shit is what they are ideally looking for. you will get to do shit NO other ones get to do, such as talk with aliens and shit.

I'm not even kidding, you'll be treated like royalty
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Are there any required reading and shit i swear to god if i have to pass a splelling test to join im offing my self
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>>716346550
But what if my brother in-law joins before I can stop my sisters marriage to him also I'm in Canada is it different here?
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>>716346818
Mason's are generally stupid idiots. You shouldn't need to pass any spelling test.
source: I am illuminati.
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>>716345435
Wow. Nice 1872 copy of Morals and Dogma.

I don't think you are reading those works, though. Crowley and Pike are both very, very cryptic at times. The way you describe these works, and I've read Morals and Dogma, are strange. The "secret" or "esoteric" language is all throughout the book. In reality, there is no self to build upon or improve. For one thing, by joining, you could talk "openly" about some of your questions with others. Without joining, you can never talk "openly" about it, because no one will discuss these things in detail for fear of breaking their oaths.
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>>716346550
Is this true?
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>>716348664
Well, probably not. Consider the fact that the third generation of Freemasons died hundreds of years ago. Also consider the fact that there is no conclusive evidence that aliens exist. Freemasonry is not altogether harmonious with the ideas of Royalty or Aristocracy.
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