Draw Thread - Drawfriends are asleep, draw cats
>Take or give request
>Interact or roleplay with others
>Threadly reminder that you can always git more gud
>Don't be afraid to try drawing a request yourself
>New Drawfriends are ALWAYS desired
TOOLS:
https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/ (PaintTool SAI, ¥5400, nearly all drawfags use it)
http://www.clipstudio.net/en (Clip Studio Paint Pro, $49.99, also sorta popular)
https://medibangpaint.com/en/ (MediaBang Paint, Freeware)
https://krita.org/ (Krita, Freeware)
http://firealpaca.com/en (Firealpaca, Freeware)
RESOURCES:
http://drawabox.com/ (Learn to Draw)
http://alexhays.com/loomis/ (Loomis)
If you don't know where to start, start with 'Fun With A Pencil'. Loomis is a meme for a reason.
FIGURES and REFERENCES:
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/random
http://www.artmodeltips.com/poses/
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichanDrawer.html
http://www.posemaniacs.com/
http://artprompts.org/ (Art Prompts)
TABLET:
https://www.reddit.com/r/stylus/wiki/index (List of Tablets)
Intuos Draw/Art (formerly Bamboo) is fairly cheap and solid ($64/$79 USD Amazon)
Ask a Drawfriend
Previous Thread:
>>715977449
>>715994299
i love it <3
>>715994586
>anon made me a drawthread op image
I-i finally made it... im internet famous now...
>>715994695
two ops, in fact. Assuming you didn't make the duplicate thread.
for anon who wants their butt touched
Alright guys, what should I draw now?
>>715994695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5lQvioD90k
>>715994846
No i made the other one, promptly deleted when i saw this one
>>715994879
lol. wrong image.
>>715994924
This autistic fuck.
I'll draw some stuff. Maybe even something lewd.
>>715994979
Can you draw pic related?
>>715993910
yeah sure, like the time you try to get laid iwillsay fuck you but you by the force of nature cant fuck
>>715993403
ohh yeah sorry this was from our last vacation
he is having troubles now
horribles things happene recently and i just hope everything get better
but stop talking about me how arer you doing
how is your dimention?
did you find someone in there?
Why do you draw Fred suck so much now? It's just a bunch of amateur anime bullshit.
>>715994979
srgl
>>715994979
Public masturbation
/r/ a drawing of this random diapered female kobold as like some sort of fetish sex slave prisoner, restrained, and being tortured/coaxed into using her diaper
Please deliver!
>>715995026
so where are the kiddies? :3
I ship RaLo
>>715994935
That song was tight. Made me wanna shoot up a school or some other edgy thing.
>>715995016
Doing what?
>>715995091
what?
>>715995110
Probably later.
>>715995137
this will literally not get done.
fucking. leave.
>>715995137
>asks for something nasty
>nobody delivers
>asks for something nasty AND says please
Wew, this guy's a bloody genius
>>715995147
there are ships for everything now
this is an alternate dimention you still can have a chance
>>715995175
Acting cute.
>>715995175
sergal pls
>>715995150
Saw you and thought "hey there's an artist called moth"
thought you might be interested
yay
new thread
Requesting her being raped
>>715995471
No tracer of mine is a faggot
>>715995147
sprry but that cat makes me really happy omg
Requesting Fio lewds.
>>715995147
From previous thread.
>Can you draw space kitty hiking up his hindleg and peeing in his spacesuit?
>>715995345
shut up Jeremy...
>>715995471
Have a woman being wrapped as you asked
>>715995570
Kitteh >:3
>>715995580
But... that'd be cute
>>715995439
Rave isn't my thing. but that was a pretty good one.
Wooooooooooolf?
Helloooooooooo
>>715994944
Oh yes, mmmm. Wonderful~
>>715995825
Show tits
>>715995751
That's not rave friendo, that's called deathstep
>>715995366
Killing is cute
I miss bunny
>>715995825
fuck someone
>>715995939
Kai? or someone actually called bunny?
>>715995902
>deathstep
noice.
>>715995978
Her. I guess her name is bunny since she always goes by it
>>715995978
This one
>>715995939
I also miss bunny
Got me walkin side to side
requests... give them
though they're gonna be weird lol, painkillers.
>>715995733
>But... that'd be cute
It would be yes.
>>715995871
>>715996149
>>715996157
Hive mind :p
I can't take the loneliness anymore anons. I can't make myself draw anything anymore. I'm going to bed. Goodnight.
>>715995924
Homicide is pretty dope.
>>715994979
/r/ Dixie kissing Tod looking surprise blushed
>>715995026
wait, wha?
that's not what i mea- ngggh, nevermind
>you lucky bastard holy CRAP
(ahem) as for me? i guess i'm okay, despite being in another dimension. my original dimension's pretty okay aside from drama popping up once in a while. and no, i do not have a significant other.
>>715995147
>>715995345
EXCUSE ME WHAT
>>715996261
Gnite man, hope you feel better
>>715995471
>blizzard making t-racer a token lesbian character
>throwing yet another bone to the whiny bitches that need to validate their existence vicariously through a fictional video game character
I ain't gonna help you perpetuate the idea that that kinda shit's cash, anon.
O hey
>>715996413
I wanna fuck them both but they'll both kill me in the process.
>>715995825
why you suffering? something the matter?
>>715996251
kek
>>715996157
qt <3
>>715996490
You taking requests atm bell? From what I've seen of your serious art, you're actually really good.
why are there so few requests and most of them are cancer?
>>715996626
cancer has pushed out anyone worth while
>>715996413
howdy friend
starman here
i got really fucking tired of drawing myself for every image
and starmen are easy to draw
>>715996363
fufufu we have a ship
>>715996490
i'm actually working on a serious piece right now lol. and its due tomorrow morning xD
hmu another time or drop your request and i'll get to it tomorrow
>>715996157
hiya bun :3
>>715996732
Requesting please make A better version of this drawing
The drawing is Lydia Fox (fox girl Arthur) In a 7 year old version of her
without the wheelchair she uses
her in swimsuit
And swimming in a pool
>>715996985
wont get done
>>715996363
ohhh this youth,
well its time for me to sleep
you could stayher the time you want
you and whoever that thing is
bye me
>>715996856
Mind if we see it when you finish? looks good
>>715996856
Oh, I'm not bun! I was just showing that annon who she was
>>715996833
How yer doin fella?
>>715996486
O-oh
>>715996626
most of them seem like pretty valid requests
just can't focus long enough to do anything right now
if i do, i'll fall asleep
>>715997279
eat me
>>715997312
finger your dog again
Would anybody like to illustrate this character jerking off somebody just after blowing them, with their tongue out to catch cum? Either that, or draw them dropping a lot of things.
>>715997279
AHAHAHAHHA
>>715997279
Meh, I wouldn't say I'm a degenerate, the only degenerative part of me is the muscle in my left eye.
>>715997137
yeah sure
>>715997169
>
this kills the man
Requesting Rukia doing something cute or cool with any one pokemon in this album
Pokemon refs: http://imgur.com/a/700pN
Rukia refs: http://imgur.com/a/qItQA
>>715996626
interesting query you've postulated, friendo
frankly I haven't the slightest clue
i've only been drawfagging for a short while and even in that short span I've been requested to draw some female character from a game I don't know with a big hard cock
another was "a giantess pooping"
I'll go out on a limb and assume it's all you degenerates that have a bottomless lust for porn and want a very particular itch scratched by someone with the artistic capabilities to do so.
I like to think I even the scales out a little bit by drawing like a quadriplegic sperg racer.
>>715997279
I'm doin' a-okay
I'm biding time fucking around doing this while I'm redownloading FFXIV, which I'm sure I'll lose interest in again shortly after starting back up.
>>715997279
Slime girl when
>>715996490
na just memeing
>>715995871
k
>>715995940
i prefer to be the one receiving the fuck
>>715995825
Would you like to draw yourself in series like this?
>>715997977
im tired
I'm waiting for cute sweater small space cool pal person to finish up a request but I might fall asleep. I am super tired. :c
Anon i finished it i'm so sorry for the wait.... My cat was being annoying so i added the kitty haha
>>715997977
>i prefer to get fucked
well basically it means the same thing
>>715997089
... peace out.
>>715998300
moth hug when
>>715998300
Oh my gosh it's like I summoned you.
It's so nice, thank you a whole lot. Internet hugs for you for being rad.
>>715997755
quality digits, anon
>>715998390
right now friend
>>715998344
>thud
>>715998399
holy shit i just saw the post haha. Glad i could do it in time! sorry for making you wait. *hug*
Requesting a tuba swallowing this fine young tubadino
Meerkay here, taking non lewd cutie requests!
>>715998300
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadorable.
>>715998647
Requesting her in a cute/sexy Christmas dress
>>715997988
>tfw this is your fetish: sexual training
>tfw never get to do it to someone
HelloDarknessMyOldFriend.mp4
>>715998619
It's a-okay. Night!
>>715995147
This artist still around?
>>715998637
kill yourself
>>715998637
tis the season for tubavore.
>>715997988
ehh nrn looks fun but im not gonna be on for long
>>715998057
same
>>715998310
but then WHO gets the fuck? saying "Fuck someone is kinda vague.
>>715999007
no
>>715999154
ask someone
>>715998637
>>715998647
>tfw your request got colored
>>715998596
ACK
Does anyone have Wolf's group pic? I missed it and I want to cry.
>>715998637
i don't know how the fuck to draw tubas
>>715999345
Ah, that was your request? I just wanted to say thank you! The reason I come on here most times is to get requests like that so I can color them. Yours was especially fun since I've never drawn the inside of a store before. There were a couple from that thread which I ended up coloring actually.
>>715998786
Did you make the character?
>>715998637
IT'S TRADITION
ALL HAIL TUBAVORE
>>715999358
>grabs a pillow and does overly-complicated gymnastics and throws pillow beneath you.
>>715999543
do you use a line tool for your straight lines? I was told to never do that but it looks nice there. Have I been deceived?
>>715997348
>
>>715997458
HAHAHAHA
>>715997464
What about the right eye?
>>715997710
Im just playing war thunder as of now
>>715997755
Oh the enemy? Maybe when i spot them!
>>715999543
No, thank YOU!
I'm glad that I could give you something you enjoy working on and that i helped you out on developing your skill further!
>>715999246
Good enough I suppose. Thanks.
>>715999748
Please draw Plug using Thunderbolt
Requesting a luxray breaking its feral anatomy and wielding a hunting horn weapon from monster hunter pls! Artist's choice!
>>715999154
i wouldn't mind being the one, but i expect pancakes the morning after :P
>>715999850
It's me tho, Im stilll here
It me raq
>>715998637
All hail the mighty tubavore!
A creature of both myth and lore!
He's posted in these threads before!
All hail the mighty tubavore!
He wants to feel the cold wet brass!
The gastric juice inside his ass!
And when he himself is finally passed,
he'll fertilize the kingdom's grass!
>>716000090
>_>
>>715999710
Does overly complicated parkour to remove pillow
>>715999543
I made it but I didn't draw that pic
Im working on something for my waifu. Opinions? (Ik its shit, I usually dont draw.)
>>715999611
>>715999744
>>715999822
>>716000155
>>716000177
WHAT IS THIS GET THREAD
>>715999748
Welp, think of it this way. I could get a prescription monocle if I could afford it.
>>716000090
Kek!!
>>715999744
I do most times because I have very shaky hands, or I'll use them to define foreground or shadowing.
(And honestly that's why my lineart's still so bad tbh)
>>715999822
You're too sweet anon, you're making my night.
>>716000210
Hmm lemme sit on it friendo.
>>715998861
I assume you are male, otherwise we could figure something out.
>>715999946
Yeah and I was this requester.
>>715995580
>>716000251
Excuse me, YOUR waifu?
>>716000237
>anon thinks he's gonna get the mighty sextupleGet!
>nope.
>belongs to an anon who wanted quints but GOT the sextupleGet
>>715995776
Arooooo. Whaddup.?
I overslept.
>>716000251
is that bunny??
How does one know if one will ever get better at drawing? When does one know when one hits one's "cap"?
At what point should one accept that one will be shit at anatomy and art in general and unable to improve by any substantial degree?
taking requests
>>716000334
I'm a piece of shit with no technique so I just draw background and then place foreground on top like it's a painting... U-unless you don't do that with paintings...
>>716000480
You continue and keep going until you can't move your drawing hand, baka.
>>715994972
this is my first time in a draw thread
>>716000483
draw your favorite animal and petting it
>>715999710
oof! oh...err, thank you, random anon?
i'm gonna go now, i'm feeling pretty drained.
>now entering sleep mode...
>peace out! [◉ ◉]
>>716000480
Never do this. Just keep practicing, follow the /ic/ sticky. Practice practice practice. Push past your comfort zone, it's how I got better at hands.
>repost because is gay, am not actually taking req's because it's 1:30 and I'm watching mob psycho 100
>>716000480
what have you been working on. for how long. This shit doesn't happen over night. It can take months, it can take years. Depends on how you go about it, how hard you work.
>>715994972
>>716000610
I feel like I took too long and you left lol
how did I do??
>>715998637
>>716000683
Night
>>716000445
Nm really. So I know this is pretty quick but uh, I'd like a good dicking of the faggot variety
>>716000090
>>716000549
Everyone has their own process. I usually sketch out the foreground, the middle, then background so I can flesh out the perspective. Once I'm satisfied, I work on anatomy and object placement, making sure it works with the surroundings. Those two colored pictures I posted took me a few days, solely because I was making sure everything was placed correctly.
>>716000683
All in a day's work m'am!
>>716000251
looks cute but the thick black lines don't really match the lines of the body
>>716000610
forgot to sign it
>>716000480
I have hit that wall friend. You know you have hit your cap when you can't stand spending more than 30 minutes drawing. >>716000610
Welcome. I will name you Snans.
>>716000885
Psh, something like that would take me at least a week (not total draw time, just total time with the tablet in my lap)
>>716000797
Specify please. My brain isn't working correctly after being awake for 10 minutes and without the first cigarette.
>>716001037
he wants gay porn.
>>716000993
I'm lucky, art has been my passion since grade five *note, I always doodled so I'm mediocre at best, experience doesn't equate to skill* so I don't have a problem with burning out on drawing, more on specific drawings.
any request?
>>716000879
Eat me tuba.
>>716001001
If you could give me examples of your art, or if you want to talk privately about it, I'd be happy to help!
>>716001127
please draw Bloodborne bosses
>>716001127
Tuba swallowing a marching band dinosaur
>>716001037
>>716001097
Pretty much that, yeah. You said you didn't get enough and I mean I'm already a half faggot.
>>715998647
Nice looking stuff!
Could you draw the following situation:
A skinny blonde girl and an average brunette Latina, shortish hair, lying head to toe on a mattress pad in a funky bedroom. The brunette is on the phone with her boyfriend while she casually holds the blonde's foot. The blonde is a nervous wreck with some mental issues and this touch makes her quietly flip her shit because she really likes the other.
>>716000879
eat me tuba
>>716000993
FOCUS THE IMAGE OR USE A SCANNER
>>715995572
>>716000483
Draw anon fingering your butthole, stretching it a bit before inevitable anal destruction.
>>716001206
there you go anon, enjoy it
>>716000431
Ya, MY waifu. Fight me.
>>716000458
Yep.
>>716000916
Thanks but the thicker lines were made on purpose.
>>716001146
>such perfect hair
>those eye details
>dat shading
I am a jelly donut.
>>716001146
As kind as that is, you're far enough past my level that I feel like it'd just waste your time. I'd rather keep practicing til I have smooth lines and consistent anatomy
>>716000993
Ok snanz It is. What's your name friend?
>>716001267
I'd be happy to share some of my shading secrets and hair tools.
>>716001296
It's not a waste of time at all! I'm actually working towards making a youtube channel with a few others about this very subject, so it'd actually help both of us out in the long run.
>>716001182
Awe thanks anon! Sure, give me a bit and I can see what I can sketch out. Anything else specific you'd like to see?
>>715999946
Do you think you can do another, maybe an original piece, and with a different setting like on a spaceship or on another planet/moon?
>>716001172
Sure. Let me just get up.
Also, got any wishes as to who should be top? Or other things you'd like?
>>716000267
Hey bunchi
>>715998637
If if it this fine piece of ass it could work.
Just do not draw that dumpy fat fuck.
>>716001150
like this one?
>>716000557
>>716000719
>>716000721
God damn it, you're right. I'm not going to improve sitting here feeling sorry for myself and wallowing in my own self pity. I'll stagnate and I WILL stay that way if I don't push.
Thanks for the pep talk, anons.
>>716000993
Don't give up just yet, drawfriend.
>>716000483
u cute
>>716001529
Big eyes, longer hair on the blonde.
On the other, thick eyebrows.
Both in comfy sleepwear.
Have fun with the bedroom, should be comfy-nerdy.
Thanks!
>>716001458
Oh, well, if you do want to talk out of threads here's my discord MuffledFat
#5759 (I aint fraid of no anons) I don't have anything on my laptop that isn't just shitscribbling for drawthread, see>>716000719
>>716001636
he fine
>>716001458
Nah, it's okay. I don't own a Tablet or PC, and paper is my medium atm. Thanks anyways, though!
>>716001640
Yesss!
(also god damn that fight was annoying. But not nearly as much as the undead giants and Gascoigne)
>>716001765
thankyou anon, I'll post the sketch once I'm done to see if you like it so far. If so, I might even color it all the way, but keep in mind it might take a day or two. If so and we both agree, I'll give you my DA/Tumblr/Twitter.
(BTW I'll be gone for a few mins to run to the store, but I'll be back later)
>>716001832
Alright, I'll talk to ya there.
>>716001923
Ah, I'm sorry then. I hope to see you improving!
>>716001587
I'm usually aggressive with girls so lets switch it up, wolf on top giving me good ol' dick. I have hair like Mikisugi Aikurō when he's not disguised, that's pretty much all that matters for descriptions tho tbh
>>716001994
Same here! Hands/Hair/Eyes are just urrrrgh
>>716001587
Not him, but I'd like to see a Femme Fatale catgirl straddling Wolf while holding a glass of wine
>>716002066
Gah, I know how ya feel. (I still have hand issues)
>>716001190
SHUT UP NIGGER I'M AT CLASSES WITH SHIT LIGHTING AND A SHIT PHONE.
>>716001385
I'm Bunchi, but this particular character 's name is Ryan c:
>>716001629
G' day. :V
>>716001674
I'm trying c':
any other thing to draw?
>>715995984
fluffy <3
>>716002257
your character and your name feel Asian but you said G'day so therefore you MUST be an aussie
Hey Meerkay, you still here?
>>716002275
Please draw an epic showdown between two Final Fantasy bosses
>>716002176
Mankind is truly the work of evil, to have something so hard to draw being USED to draw
>>716001206
>>716001233
Well anon is no longer here to thank me...
>>716002546
>>716002612
I am not the OR, but I thank you for your time & effort.
>>716002612
I-I'll thank you! It was a good job, good anatomy and such!
>>716002701
funnel it into that band nerd's anus
>>716001458
why do all your necks in detail look like their tensing up?
>>716002394
Yessir! (but only for a few minutes, then I have to go to market)
>>716002576
Don't even get me started about feel.
>>716002612
Who you are? Draw girl tied up and getting her pussy rubbed by massager. Forcing multiple orgasms.
>>716002877
[AAAAAAAAAA INTENSIFIES]
>>716001674
It wasn't really meant to be inspiring. I'm just reminding you that what you're trying to do, get better, isn't easy. Not for anyone, on any skill level. But you're right. Worrying about it isn't going to help you.
And nor is starman for that matter. Become Flint or Duster.
>>716002372
I am from Europe actually, I just like blending everything together.
I'll be back in about 50 minutes. Got a little work to do.
>>716002877
You should draw Miro in your style!
>>716000929
hello
goodbye
>>716001584
no Im tired af
Im fucking off because tired too
>>716002300
So fluf, so cute. Thanks for doing this Miro
>>716001150
>Bloodborne
mah huntah!
>>716002861
I've noticed that myself recently. I guess mainly it's because I'm used to drawing that specific type of neck, and I'm actually trying to draw differently from it. Thank you for pointing it out though.
>>716002905
lel
>>716003024
omg adorable first off, second yes, and third in a bit when I get back.
I'm shit at drawing and I lost my Wacom stylus
Request things you want to see drawn in MS-Paint or Paint.NET you decide
If anyone's up to it draw me something like pic related please?
>>716002438
i did this
>>716003275
yeah sure, just don't draw those tension lines.
I bought a VR headset.
First time i've enjoyed looking at a naked girl in weeks!
>>716002861
it always gives me a good chuckle when you do the laziest scribble you can but actually give good points. Makes you look like an ass to anybody who doesn't know you can draw
>>716003120
When could I catch ya next time then?
/r/ this guy dressed as Santa playing tuba.
>>716003432
lol goku, calm down.
>>716003499
>who doesn't know you can draw
I don't draw, I just do.
So what we all doing?
i'm bored an lone-lo.
>>716003275
>>716003024
omg nofrfr noooo ajrfuhnfrrf WHO MADE THAT REQUEST ;;;; .... i'm excited tho ;v; thank u.... hope you'll have fun drawing it hhhhh
>>716003138
np! <3
>>716003876
Who could have guessed
>>716003876
(you)
>>716003889
You're the biggest sweetiepie and I love it, you actually feel nice
taking requests cuck and cuckettes
>>716003995
Dude, I fit in nowhere, and i'm just being myself.
How are you?
Hi thread....
>>716004069
kill yourself
-your dad
>>716004099
can i request these two?
but he is naked, and she is not?
>>716004181
kill yourself chris
>>716004137
That is actually an accurate quote, but taken out of context.
>>716003889
Twas I, Miro. Your fan.
>>716004099
I Xero, how's it hanging?
>>716004261
even your parents want you to kill yourself, so you should probably do it
>>715999871
>
Playing and drawing in small opportunities is hard
>>716004261
CFNM me, Bawble
>>716004389
Kill yourself you little shit.
>>716004275
playing mobile games and gonna start a new darksouls 2 character
Rate /b/
Send me requests if you want to die of eye cancer
I promise I'll try more than I did in pic related, Kik name is the same as signature if you want
See: >>716003295
>>716004548
Lookin good
Okay I'm back, thought it would take longer but eh.
>>716004430
Bawble the savage
>>716003344
Diabolos vs. Beelzebub?
>>716003432
>>716003275
Theres nothing wrong with the sternomastiods haveing value on them, the neck isn't just a cylinder after all. But the value gradation on them should be really subtle in comparison to the other dark edges unless you want the straining effect of a very turned neck.
>>716004271
anon i am your n°1 fan!!
>>716004031
i wanna make people happy hehe. Well, i have my moments!- wait, feel nice ? did you notice my new shampoo ? it really makes my hair soft
>>716000652
cats
>>716001694
no u
>>716001223
wh
>>716004674
can i have an edit, where a girl is looking in the background, but she is clothed?
>>716005123
>wh
Do it <3
>>716005233
Sure thing~
>>716005123
no u
and ur big butt
>>716005076
It's always so soft tho
>>716005342
That's Chris you're about to deliver for. Don't do it!
>>716005481
I'm not Chris
>>716005342
Don't do it m8, Chris is the scourge of all drawthreads
Can someone draw Jaune and/or Pyrrha assfucking Cinder Fall?
All characters from RWBY
>>716005550
Nobody else asks for CFNM, you asshole.
>>716002044
>laziest sketch
sorry bruh
you'll get a better one at some point when i'm not half asleep anymore
>>716005864
Good enough to me, I'm about to pass out anyways, it's like you're tagging me out
>>716005864
Please draw Warlord-like Wolf smoking a cuban
Learning actual anatomy. You should try it.
>>716005233
>>716005481
>>716005565
Who is Chris? Why does it matter if I deliver that? It's a shit drawing anyway lal.
>>716005651
But I like CFNM too. (even though I prefer the reverse)
>>716006041
good to hear that you're enjoying it.
goodnight, fam.
>>716006059
sounds good, i'm in.
hi I'm not skilled at all but I'll do my best ;;
>>716006186
Thanks mate, I love it.
+1 gratitude
>>716005651
>CFNM is exclusively a speedy request
fuck. you.
Maybe I like seeing a naked guy fuck a milf in a wedding dress?
Maybe I wanna see some bucknakeddude plowing an officelady in her full outfit over a couch-side
Faith in drawthreads lost. You just made a huge mistake, catering to Chris.
>>716006381
I never said Speedy asks for CFNM. He doesn't. He asks for geometry porn.
>>716006296
Well now we now for certain that you are just dandy with lying if it suits your interests.
Literally all credibility lost.
>>716006383
Dude, drawfags do what drawfags feel like doing.
Artists aren't bound to popular opinion.
>>716006568
He never had any credibility to begin with.
>>716006615
Don't come crying to me if Chris starts to stalk & harass you.