What is the point to life?

to thrive

To remind the OP that he is very much a faggot.

>>715991340
but why?

>>715991395
but why?

To bang as much tight vag as you can. Obviously.

To shitpost

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>>715991299
to stay alive, fuck, and make sure your offspring don't die. anything else is what you do while you wait on death

>>715991299
To create your own meaning

>>715991299
I really made this thread with the hope that someone would give me some insight or a reason why living life is important. If no legit replies by the time this thread 404's I will hang myself.

My life is literally in your hands /b/.

>>715991524
Sounds like a Cassandra paradox. Destined to shitpost, never able to be concious that your fulfilling your purpose as you shitpost.

>>715991787

you lie

>>715991299
The answer you seek is 42.

To kill.

>>715991879
A dying man speaks nothing but the truth?

>>715991787
do it faggot

>>715992026
I will. I just require one last drop of dopamine associated with the mental stimulation provided by total stranger's comments on a japanese-esue imageboard desu.

feed my brain.

>>715991783
this is the true purpose...life has no meaning and through that you have power, the power to make your own meaning

>>715992234
Jesus fucking Christ, there is No point.

Everything is here because it hasn't died yet, chance is only reason anything at all even exists. If you're going to kill yourself, do it with some dignity and don't start an attention thread..

>>715991299
To live and do stuff that you enjoy to do.

But the basic rules of nature say that you have to fuck as many persons of your opposite sex as you can fuck before you die.

I think every person, at one time or another, has found themselves imagining what it might be like to stop living. Sometimes this can be out of desperation, but other times it's just a way to get back in touch with not being dead. As the saying goes, "Being alive is alright, especially when we consider the alternative." It's healthy to think about life and death, even when we're feeling hopeless. Or perhaps especially then. We shouldn't be afraid to try and imagine what it would be like to kill ourselves. Often times, it can help us get a refreshed perspective and appreciation for the astounding adventure we're part of, and how truly frightening and challenging it would be to really end it all.

These, OP: >>715991783
>>715992465

>>715992567
Underage fag

As far as we're aware, being dead is an impossibly unimaginable experience anyway. It might not even be an experience at all, but rather the total void of non-experience. When I've been in pain, sometimes non-experience sounded pretty good. Whatever it is to be dead, almost all of us have tried to fathom it, and in times of great anguish, we've probably wondered if it might be preferable to the discomfort of daily living. Only the most brazen of believers would unquestioningly assume that the afterlife -- if there is one -- is something we can comprehend and prepare for. And if there is an existence after this one, it would be pretty bold to think we could have the foggiest idea about what it consists of or feels like.

The mystery of the afterlife is part of the fun or terror of what lies beyond death. Death really is -- for better or worse -- the ultimate example of "who knows?" Someone who claims to know what happens after death is probably someone we should be suspicious of -- they might be a ghost. So I say, contemplate suicide all you want, but don't take those thoughts too seriously. Allow yourself to explore your inner thoughts and ideas without fear or commitment. You can think about things and not do them. You can always change your mind about anything you feel.

I don't think you should kill yourself, but it's not my decision to make. Being born wasn't really your choice either, and in most cases, when and how you die is often out of your control. But it seems that if someone wants to end their life, they should absolutely be allowed to do it on their terms. After all, the only thing that each of us truly has ownership of is our body, and if we want to eradicate it, we can -- even if it's against other people's beliefs.

>>715991299
Being happy and shit

As far as dealing with depression, I have a simple suggestion that I think could work like magic to heal your soul and lift your spirits. It's a very simple thing called... Helping other people. Sometimes setting aside your own troubles and focusing on someone else's in their time of need can have an incredibly powerful effect on relieving you of your own despair. This is especially true when you help someone you don't know. Of course it's good to help family and friends, but connecting with someone unknown to you, and being able to simply exercise your good will, can provide a unique and uplifting energy that almost nothing else compares to.

Some might say that helping other people just to make yourself feel good is selfish and not true generosity. But I think the fact that it benefits you is exactly the point. We are all bound together. No matter how much we like to think of ourselves as unrelated and apart from others and their plight, we are, in fact, all in the same boat. God or evolution or both have specifically wired our brains to feel pleasure when we help other people. Our health responds positively to acts of human kindness, whether we perform them or receive them. This reward is meant to be tangible. It's supposed to feel good to do good for others -- we're then motivated to do even more good. To be able to relate to someone else whom you never met before is to be able to relate more deeply to yourself. We're meant to see ourselves reflected in other people -- people we would never imagine we'd have anything in common with. But we all share one thing in common: we're human beings, trying to make the best of this intense thing called life.

So maybe it's time to turn away from yourself and towards your neighbor. Help people in need. It doesn't have to be traditional charity -- it can be anything that shows your fellow man that someone's there and someone cares. Participate in society to make it a more humane and compassionate place for everyone, including you. You'll be astounded at how powerful it feels to engage in "others-help" instead of just "self-help."

The experience of connecting with someone through shared understanding can put you in direct contact with the miracle of life. It's truly the sensation of love -- not just an idea or an emotion -- but the very feeling and expression of what it is to be a person alongside another person. It is the feeling of God. And if you're someone who doesn't believe in God as an entity, you can experience God as this unbelievably simple yet infinite thing called "love." God is love. And you don't have to be religious to still think of God as just the word that best describes that indescribable and infinite feeling of total love. Love is the most fundamental part of being a living, breathing, and caring person. Give your love to the world and you'll get more purpose and meaning back in your life than you ever imagined possible.

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Pugs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PXyvlKr_Yvo

>>715992465
also this is called nihilism or absurdism......its called something help me out!!

If digits then suicide is the answer to lifes problems.

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>>715991299
That depends op. Do you want the truth or do you want to feel good? Actually stop and think about that.

Truth is that meaning is a human construct. The purpose of life however is pretty much:
>>715991684
>to stay alive, fuck, and make sure your offspring don't die.

If you want to feel good then something like these:
>>715991783
>>715992822
>>715992465

There is no objective meaning to life because meaning is completely subjective.

>>715991299
I don't think there's much. But, honestly, having the option to kill yourself seems infinitely better than being doomed to a miserable life. I think that considering suicide saved me from losing my mind at least a handful of times.

Read some philosophical Pessimist literature and mull it over. Continental philosophy usually concerns itself with the best way to live life. It's worth the time investment, if you're willing to put in the effort to try and "get" it. If not, listen to summaries of different philosophers. They're not the same, but close enough.

-Your friendly neighborhood /lit/ faggot.

To kill jews

>>715993712
thats what i said dumb ass

>>715993921
No you didn't. Can you read and comprehend language?

Figure it out yourself

>>715994136
There is {{no objective meaning to life}} because meaning is completely subjective.

this is the true purpose...{{life has no meaning}} and through that you have power, the power to make your own meaning

ref. {{}}

>>715994327
You implied that life's purpose was to create meaning. That's bullshit.

>>715993308
It's Existentialism.

Although many Existentialists are also known as Nihilists or Absurdists. Nietzsche and Camus are the biggest names of either, respectively. Though Camus wasn't really an "Absurdist," per se. Absurdism is usually applied to the arts. Not Philosophy.

>>715994653
why is that? .....if there's no meaning and you want some, just create your own. whats wrong with that.

>>715994720
mmmkay thanks must have scene rick and morty philosophy

>>715994813
Well that depends do you understand the difference between your imagination and reality?

>>715994813
I'm not the guy who you're responding to, but I'll say this:

The point of that philosophy is to give people the choice to determine their own values. In the absence of an objective meaning to life, (God, Ethical Empiricism, etc) you have the opportunity to decide meaning for yourself. You have to make choices, and those choices more or less say what you think the meaning of life to be.

Your actions, and the way you live your life are an effect of the way that you understand this freedom. They are, implicitly and subjectively YOUR "meaning of life."

>>715995315
kys ayy lmao

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>>715991299
To check em

>>715995315
>They are, implicitly and subjectively YOUR "meaning of life."
Yes but objectively absolute bullshit.

>I believe the grass is orange! I BELIEVE
So what that's bullshit.

>>715994994
If you're interested, Paul Strathern does a nice series summarizing different Philosophers lives and their work. Much, much better.

>>715995314
well if science is right then simulation/nonexistence so if there is a copy of something the originality(as in what is real like the ship with the parts replaced and such) becomes illusory........but if not science then idk maybe were all one and consciousness

>>715991299
To die, duh. Every successful person in history has died. And killing yourself just helps you accomplish that goal sooner.

>>715995637
nice! ill check it out ty

>>715995730
>stopped talking in coherent sentences
>talking unproven hippy retarded nonsense
(thumbs up)

>>715996122
i dont like writing books.

what can be proven beyond what you see here now....on top of that how many witnesses dose it take in court to prove something, and how far will people go to lie...never underestimate how far people will go

>>715995594
Actually, Existentialism presupposes that sort of thinking. It came out of German Phenomenology--which basically said: Let's assume the objective world exists, philosophy needs to focus on ethics, rather than trying to prove that things exist.

I understand why you would think that, but existentialism isn't necessarily total relativism. Although I'm sure there are relativist philosophers who could be called existentialists. There's a hard logic implicit in a lot of Sartre's arguments on existentialism, and the same is true of Heidegger.

The point is to offer a way of living--it's not a systematic philosophy that solves everything.

>>715995314
>Well that depends do you understand the difference between your imagination and reality?
so what were you gonna say, i got of topic

>>715996549
you guys are really talking a bunch of fucking nonsense lol.

Don't kill yourself. Because that's dumb and you're smart. Work out. Get a cool car. And fuck chicks. Don't worry about a thing you're gonna be alright.

>>715996724
lol why

let me know what is not nonsense pls tell em

>>715997012
Because I'm about to terminate my given intelligence as well as the meat sack that comes with.

>>715996627
Yeah a bunch of ideas based on other ideas, NOT based on observable evidence (ir. Reality).

Where is the point in your ramble? I can't find it, excuse me.

>>715997273
A short kek was given while reading your post.

You deserve to know this.

to suffer for 70 years and then die

>>715997273
These three kinds of reasoning are Abduction, Induction, and Deduction. Deduction is the only necessary reasoning. It is the reasoning of mathematics. It starts from a hypothesis, the truth or falsity of which has nothing to do with the reasoning; and of course its conclusions are equally ideal....Induction is the experimental testing of a theory....It sets out with a theory and it measures the
degree of concordance of that theory with fact. It never can originate any idea whatever. No more can deduction. All the ideas of science come to it by the way of Abduction. Abduction consists in studying facts and devising a theory to explain them. Its only justification is that if we are ever to understand things at all, it must be in that way.

>>715997347
?

>>715997691
The surprising fact, C, is observed; But if A were true, C would be a matter of course, Hence, there is reason to suspect that A is true.

Jackin it to skanky porn

>>715997956
Blowin dro
Vidya
Tobacco products
Fine wine

>>715991299
>Cat
Why are you bitching? Your guy won the election.

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>>715991299
We have no vocalist anymore!!! DEAD killed himself two weeks ago! It was really brutal, first he cut open all the arteries in the wrist then he had blown off his brains with a shotgun. I found him and it looked fucking grim, the upper half of his head was all over the room and the lower part of his brain had fallen out of the rest of his head and down on the bed. I of course grabbed my camera and made some photos, we'll use them in the next mayhem LP. I and HELLHAMMER Were so lucky that we found two big pieces of his skull we have hung on necklaces as a memory. DEAD killed himself because only for the true, old black metal scene and lifestyle. It means black clothes, spikes, crosses and so on. You know, bands like old Hellhamer, Bathory and so on... but today there are children in jogging swit and skateboards and hardcore moral ideas. they try to look as normal as possible. This has nothing to do with black. This stupid people must fear black metal! But instead they love shitty bands like Deicide, Benediction, Napalm death, Sepultura and all that shit!!
Death to false Black Metal or Death Metal!! Also to the trendy hardcore people...aaarrgghh!!

>>715997273
It sounds as though you're arguing against logic, and for subjectivity (personal experience), when you just did the opposite.

You and a schizophrenic could take in the same sensory input, and have wildly different subjective experiences as beings. Which one of you would be objectively "right" about that sensory input?

I really don't have the time to explain Decarte and John Locke to someone who mostly wants to shitpost and make strawman arguments.

To investigate whether anyone has free will, we must first be clear what we’re talking about and looking for—the conceptual nature of freedom and free will. Philosophers have put forward various accounts of what constitutes some conditions of human freedom: lack of constraints, open- future choice, reasons- responsiveness, capability of being held responsible, and so on.2 However, following J. L. Austin and some others, let’s generalize from these more focused suggestions and say that freedom in general always requires two interrelated components of ability and opportunity (or opportunities—more about this in a moment).3 The idea here is roughly that one can be free if and only if one is able to be free in some relevant way, such as being able to think, speak, move, and so on, and one has a course of thought or action open to the exercise of such abilities, so one isn’t unduly distracted, one’s lips aren’t duct- taped, one isn’t superglued to the floor, and so on. Note that freedom in general then is a state of affairs where one has some sort of internal capacity or power, and one has as well an external situation so that that capacity or power can complete its function. Only when both these internal and external conditions obtain can one be said to be truly free to think, to speak, to move.

Well OP we live to thrive to ask these question (Just like you did) to know what is and what is not. To decide what we want to be and make our own meaning of life. Is there a true meaning? a God or a saviour? I don't fucking know but I know I can choose what to do with my life even if it means shitposting on 4chan

>>715998434
Applying this picture of freedom to the specifi c issue of free will requires a bit of explanation. To begin, philosophers are for the most part divided into two mutually exclusive camps that are at odds on the question of how human brains and/or conscious minds function. The question here is whether the basis of consciousness is only an immensely complex system
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of causes and effects, such as a purely biological account of thought might provide, or whether consciousness might include deviation from the strict rule of cause and effect, for example by appeal to quantum physics or supernaturalism. These two views are respectively termed determinism and indeterminism. To begin to understand the relevance of these views to the question of the freedom of minds, note that one main difference between them is that by determinism the future of such a mind’s function is locally (in the next moment) “closed,” and by indeterminism the future of a mind is locally “open.” That is, by determinism a given state of mind at one present moment causes one, and only one, state of mind in the next future moment as an effect. All other conceivably different future states of mind relative to the present one are “closed” off by the present causal one. By contrast, the indeterminism of a given present state of mind that is not causal is “open” to at least two alternative local future states of mind. One can see that these two views have one immediate tie - in to opinions about the freedom of such minds. If our minds’ futures are always closed by determinism, then those futures based on our “choices” only go one particular way and no other.

By indeterminism, on the other hand, our futures are at least sometimes open to this future and that future—as the 1980s Modern English song Melt with You goes, “the future’s open wide!” So it may seem that determinism robs us of a free will to choose between distinct futures and indeterminism restores it.4

>>715997691
...?

I study math and science.

You study philosophy?

You are obviously educated but to me seem still stupid or doing an elaborate troll (a great troll).

The question was: What is the meaning to life.

I said objectively there is not one.

Are you arguing with that?

>>715998683
Unfortunately, things are more complicated than that in part because, depending on what exactly “freedom” means, each of the determinist or indeterminist views of minds can lay claim to free will, and one can be made to exclude it as well. It all depends on what free will ability is supposed to be, and what opportunity or opportunities are additionally needed, and what determinism and indeterminism can provide in terms of these components of freedom.

>>715998186
You're not talking to the right person.

>>715998718
well you wanted concert evidence so im just throwing some stuff out there

>>715998922
>The question was: What is the meaning to life.

>I said objectively there is not one.

>Are you arguing with that?

>>715998727
Say, for example, that a determinist interprets an ability to make a free choice as weighing options and coming up with the best one. Sophisticated computers can do this, and they are essentially causal mechanisms (their functional states are such that their futures are always locally closed). So a determinist view of mind can accommodate such an account of ability and thus regard our minds to be a form of mechanistic supercomputer. Say then also that the determinist puts forward an additional account that states, for example, if a mind is caused to select the best it can in a situation, and that selection is objectively correct, proper, and satisfactory (by some measure), then it is properly freely chosen because no other possible future course of
40 V. Alan White
that mind would make sense. Such a view combining deterministic ability with the sufficiency of just one future opportunity is in fact called a compatibilist account of freedom, and some like- b ieving determinists dub themselves thus.5

>>715999036
But what if, to the contrary, such a closed future is deemed insufficient for freedom? (That the future, to be freely chosen, should be “open wide.”) For example, what if the best a mind can select in a situation is a fifty - fifty proposition of heads or tails, without any further preference between the two? A determinist account of this mind says that one actually is preferred, for one is finally caused to be selected over the other. But here indeterminists cry foul—how can that one be truly freely chosen if the other is equally preferred?6 Truly free choices in these circumstances demand that both future alternatives are available for choosing. This means that any such choice requires plural opportunities in the future—and real ones, in a genuinely open future way.

>>715999122
And if that is correct, determinism is false, at least for minds that are conceived as free in this way (so they can’t be supercomputers). So for philosophers that demand such a plurality of future opportunities for any stated ability of mind to choose freely, freedom is incompatible with a determinist account of the locally closed future. Such philosophers of freedom are termed incompatibilists; they hold that the necessity of the plurality of opportunities for choice cannot be reconciled with locally closed future determinism. Incompatibilist indeterminists— sometimes called libertarians—believe that minds at least sometimes function in indeterminist ways, and when they do, the plurality of future opportunities assures that this free will to choose actually exists.

>>715999188
So there are determinists who believe that compatibilist freedom exists, and indeterminists who believe that incompatibilist freedom exists. But now for a moment think hard (so to speak) on this matter of incompatibilism. Incompatibilism as a belief is only a very abstract conceptual view about the philosophical need for locally plural open - future opportunities for freedom of choice and does not commit to whether such a future exists. Thus there are some determinists who agree with this view, and since they are also determinists about minds, reject any belief in such freedom of mind and will. For them the truth of determinism rules out such incompatibilist free will. They are called hard incompatibilists—determinists who do not believe that the opportunities form of free will exists.7

fuck bitches, get money (smoke weed nigga)

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Philosophy majors are some of THE most illogical and stupid people on the planet

pop some LSD into your mouth and find out

>>715999032
There appear to be at least two discernible components to an idea of a world (or universe, which is the expansive sense we take “world” to mean). One is metaphysical or ontological. That has to do with what ultimately is real in this world, or what kinds of entities are found in it

>>715999348
What philosophy has shown us in these more topical explorations of worldviews is that this interplay of existence and value is one of mutual infl uence in constructing a picture of the world and its parts. From the philosophy of science, for example, a convincing argument was made by Norwood Hanson that although we tend to sharply distinguish acts of observation from theories we might have about reality more generally, in truth we can’t divorce observation from theory, because observation r equires interpretation, and theory provides the background for interpretation.

>>715999348
One of his examples of this involves the Renaissance fi gures Johannes Kepler and Tycho Brahe, respectively a Copernican heliocentrist and a Ptolemaic geocentrist, who both might look at the same sunrise. Kepler sees Earth racing east in the direction of the relatively still sun, while Brahe sees an unmoving Earth being overfl own by a moving sun. They both in any case see the same thing, which amounts to a new day, yet, what produces that dawn is viewed from very different theories of how the sun and Earth work.

>>715999446
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/world

Wrong. That's me putting it politely and simply in this context.

>>715999348
Thomas Kuhn (and in a different way, Larry Laudan) argued in a ddition that one factor infl uencing which of helio- or geocentrism is held to be correct is itself a function of values the one might hold dear or reject.14 For example, it seems clear that one reason geocentrism lasted so long was that it was consistent with the traditional value - laden belief that humankind was the center of God’s creation, whereas heliocentrism was willing to sacrifi ce at least a literal interpretation of that belief. Later, an accumulation of other observations from many people (with their own attendant values) swelled into a tsunami of evidence that swamped the anthropocentrism behind geocentrism. That human - laden value could no longer be rationally and literally expressed in terms of the fact of Earth’s nonrotation

>>715991299
living
(Also this is the only correct answer in known existance)

>>715999806
What’s interesting here is that what is taken to be a fact is a function of what one values, and one’s values are in turn influenced by what one takes to be the facts. The additional factors of influence are indisputably what is taken to be “out there”—what our experiences directly show us as we interpret them and how we take into account the reported experiences of others. As we tend to see our experiences and these reports as commensurate with our values, our worldview is stable and verifi ed, and as making sense, rational

>>715999821
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>>715999657
I hope for your sake this is a troll

5/8

>>716000067
But as our experiences confl ict with our values, something has to go, or we risk sliding into incoherence and irrationality. Either we must adjust the facts as we take them to be within the system of values we
hold (e.g., we surrender geocentrism for heliocentrism), and/or we reorder or jettison parts of the system of values itself (e.g., we abandon belief in God as the basis for anthropocentric values, or, more likely, we retain belief in God and dismantle our strong appeal to anthropocentrism).

>>715991299
Life is insanity we do the same shit over and over again thats why is call the circle of life

>>716000228
Van Inwagen has long argued for the truth of libertarianism, by his own admission as an essential feature of a theistic worldview requiring that view of free will. One of his most familiar defenses for the incompatibilism that libertarianism posits is known as “the consequence argument.” Though the particulars of this argument need not concern us here, suffice it to say that van Inwagen concludes that closed- future determinism of mind cannot be compatible with what we need for an adequate concept of free will. In other work van Inwagen held that only indeterminism of mind, along with its essential commitment to the need for plural future opportunities of choice, could provide for free will.

That is, until recently, when van Inwagen stirred up the philosophical world by declaring that it appears that indeterminism of mind is incompatible with free will as well. His argument essentially shows that given that a mind can choose between at least two different alternatives, there can be no possible way to guarantee that that mind fully controls its fi nal selection

>>715991398
Because it's there. If you don't get it, quit. Nobody can make you get it. You have to find the want within yourself.

>>716000513
Van Inwagen argues roughly as follows. Assume that indeterminism is true. Then stipulate that someone makes a choice among some group of alternatives, and furthermore allow that the final choice actually made is the most rational one among those alternatives. Can the chooser have good reason to assure anyone (including herself) before (or after) the actual choice that the choice is genuinely hers in the sense that she was able to prevent any other possible decision?

>>715991299
enjoyment/happiness, if your not happy or expecting to get happy in the future you might as well kill yourself frankly.

>>716000605
If the choice process was indeterministic, and
thus had to be undertaken with the real possibility that some other choice could be (or could have been) made, this additional fact would force a “no” answer to this question. The open future for an indeterministic choice means that any choice alternative, reasonable or not, is genuinely available to the mind making that choice, and thus assurance that the choice somehow absolutely rules (or ruled) out the others that are (were) possible cannot be sustained. Another way of saying this is that indeterminism by definition appears to block a mind’s final ability to control its decisions.

And this is no troll people.

>>716000705
To understand the force of this a bit more, let’s go back to one of the strongest responses for the libertarian - indeterminist against the determinist. That response depended on the case that one was faced with two distinct possibilities of choice, but two that were fifty - fifty in the sense that neither was reasonably favored above the other. If the selection of one (heads, say) was realized by mental determinism so that the other really could not occur, then the other (tails) would not be available to that mind. So the unavailable possibility, which would otherwise be as reasonable a choice as the one caused to occur, cannot be one free for a reasonable mind to choose.

>>716000777
This claim is based on the insight that since what is reasonable seems intuitively an accessible option for choice, if freedom is to be maximally consistent with reasonable possibilities, determinism cannot say that a causal resolution of such a situation is free.

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>>716000067
I love you. I ate that bait up like a motherfucker and I still love you. 8/8, I would have worked it out sooner except I'm literally about to crash.

https://books.google.ie/books?id=zbanRy_QZSAC&pg=PT100&lpg=PT100&dq=Van+Inwagen+has+long+argued+for+the+truth+of+libertarianism&source=bl&ots=yjxcBFWsxh&sig=MaJ7hY9Pcx9xK4c0bQn8h08HhKQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqzO6g04TRAhWmKMAKHVTCD6sQ6AEIIzAA#v=onepage&q=As%20we%20tend%20to%20see%20our%20experiences%20and%20these%20reports%20as%20commensurate%20with%20our%20values%2C%20our%20worldview%20is%20stable%20and%20veri%EF%AC%81%20ed%2C%20and%20as%20making%20sense%2C%20rational&f=false

>>716000813
In this ideal situation of different alternatives that are perfectly rationally balanced ones, van Inwagen’s complaint about indeterminism is at least diminished a little. For a mind that makes a fifty - fifty toss - up decision can say that its control of what is finally decided is in fact as rational as it can be, for any decision it makes is equally rational, and any further control placed upon one alternative against another is thus not justifiable as being a rational one.

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My all time fav troll, thanks anon.

>>715999032
Not same person. The meaning of life is patently obvious, to make more of it. I mean, the whole cycle is there for anyone of decent longevity to see: birth, reproduction, death.

You can embrace the meaning of life, or ignore it and do your own thing, but the meaning itself is obvious.

>>716000836
OH YEAH IVE BEEN GETTIN THIS SHIT FROM A BOOK DUDE.......we all stand on the shoulders of giants

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>>716001015
glad i could troll ya'll my pleasure

>>716001139
but really its a good book though

>>716001010
Nah nah nah nah nah. The PURPOSE of life is (what you said + I said it too if you read the thread). There is NO objective meaning.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/

>>716001015
Not yall, literally just me <3 8/8 tho

>>715994720
Camus is totally absurdist.
His philosophy revolves around the inherent absurdity of life.

>>716001248
oh ok lol (thumbs up)

>>716001376
anyways the real purpose of life is to troll haha

>>716001248
>https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/
meaning just means "significance"

The significance of life? It's tendency to make more life, at least, that's what I see as significant comparing it to non-life which doesn't have a specific tendency to make more of itself. Rather, more and more of it (atoms, etc.) is incorporated into life as populations increase.

The significance of life is procreation. Same as purpose. I don't understand your distinction.

>>716001668
What is life?
If you really think about it, do we really know what it is?
We are a bunch of atoms interacting with each other. We're made up of material just like dirt or even the ocean.
What makes us so different from the ocean or the stars moving along itselves?

Are we really creating? After all, the law of conservative mass states that we cannot create or destroy life.

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>>715991299
also op give the book a read if you can handle it....i stopped at like page 60 or some where cuz it was much to complex

>>716002122
Whoops. I mean, we cannot create or destroy matter.

>>715991299
listen to suicde boys and youll regain will to liver. I NO LONGER FEAR THE RAZOR I-III

>>716002148
OP must have died already........reason: tl;dr

>>716002335
nvm

>>716002122
Assuming the question is what is the point, significance, etc. of life, I'm assuming that there is a shared idea of life. The fact that our technical definition is full of holes and over and under inclusive does not mean that we failed to convey and idea to each other when we used the word.

The law of conservation of mass states nothing about life.

Your question about creating is semantics. The point is whether by conversion of inanimate or by creation, what was once less life is now more.

I provided an objectively observable point and people are just angry because it didn't somehow solve their existential dilemma. The problem is they already know the point and they just don't like it.

>>716002122
Yeah the difference between a rock and something alive in the scheme of things is pretty insignificant.

>>716002518
look pal, the only thing we truly have is our connections to other people we dont even have our self

>>716002611
Irrelevant to the fact that there is an obvious, objective point to life. It doesn't mean life itself is significant, but the significance to life, once one hones in on that, is pretty obvious.

>>716002611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d686fNtjF4I

true

>>716002731
I'm not your pal, buddy. Also, your existential quandary does not obscure the obvious truth of my answer.

>>716002611
>>716002518
Okay. Then what is life?
Forget significance, because it is nil if we don't know what it is in the first place.

Is there really anything that separates us at all from everything?
The waters move on the earth.
The planets turn.
The galaxy expands.

What makes us so significant that we are separate?

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>>715991299
To learn all you can, then when you "die", to take what you've learned back to the source. And then from there, start all over again.

>>716002869
I mean universe expands... Whoops.
Whatever.

>>716002953
What do you mean by the source?

>>716002869
The ability to recognize motivation and purpose or our perceived lack thereof in various constructs?

>>716002846
I'm not you buddy, comrade. And i was not trying to obfuscate anything....mkay!

>>716002953
I figure, like some sort of interdimentional hub. Heaven for lack of a better understanding. I don't pretend to know what could be in this hub, past family? Who knows. But I have a strong feeling that whatever lies after we die, is something along those lines.

>>716003122
Do we really recognize?
After all, we are all ignorant to a degree, assuming we know anything at all.

But how do we really know that we actually know?

>>715991299
There is no point to life.
See life as a canvas - you have to give it your own meaning.

>>715991787
need someone to post the “do it phaggot” gif since I am on my phone

>>716003564
If there is no purpose to life, then how do you give anything at all if you have nothing?

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>>715991299
There is no point. Now go do whatever the fuck you want to do, so long as it's possible.

>>716003516
You're thinking too hard. We did a process, we decided. There is no certainty, but there is sufficiency for action. That's enough.

There is sufficient evidence for some things to be classified life and some things not. The thing which unites all life is the natural inclination of that which is life, in general, to make more of itself although individual members of "life" are prone to whims.

Thus, the point of life is to make more of it. You can, individually, be an instance of failure, but that doesn't mean that life doesn't have a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eErHignXEuc

>>715991787
Ah. There it is.
Welcome to nihilism.
Now you know you are worthless.

Alas! Take my words.
You are not.
It's right there for you as close as the nearest store if anything.
Look to the Bible.
It may take a little time to create faith in your heart, but do everything you can.

read the j campbell book "hero with a thousand faced"

will answer a lot of your questions on this topic.

>>716004049
Derren Brown has written a book,

Happy: Why More or Less Everything Is Absolutely Fine.

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>>715991299

OP the meaning of life is simple. The meaning of life is to imagine. Imagine a life worth living, imagine an adventure, imagine beyond the mundane existence our monetary enslavement has provided society. Imagine, and through this you can hope and dream of a meaning that may be achieved, and once it has imagine more until your last day. fag

>>716003804
What is life?
Nothing REALLY separates us from everything.
Do you agree?

>>716004011
Geneva 1599.
Read the old testament, ESPECIALLY PROVERBS

>>716004435
lol everything in Christianity come down to faith

>>716003804
Come on! You're close!
Isn't it just as plausible to conclude, considering all empirical evidence, that nothing really separates us from everything?
What empirical measure really proves free will?

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>>716005015
total people in thread

1.op
2.me
3.some faggola talking
4.some faggot
OP tomorrow ask your self "should i kill myself or have a cup of coffee"

>>716003804
With all his fucking gobbletygoop and yet he can't figure out he's not really there.
Come back. Your bride awaits. She is your darkness. Hahaha. Your reflection. A deathly sight.

>>716005430
Disappointing.
I hope you face her too one day.
I hope you also overcome her as well.

>>716004328
No. For the reasons described above.

>>716005636
Are you "high"?

>>716006047
You're made up of material interacting with each other just like everything else.
You are everything.
You are also nothing.

>>715991439
because OP sometimes forgets

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>>716006101
No...
Esoteric.
Found you a nice image.
We'll both return to dust.
We are dust.
There's nothing to return to.
We are dust. Nothing.
Nothing returning to nowhere.

>>716006211
You think that's deep but, actually, it's meaningless. Sure, atoms are a part of me, but they are not me. I am a combination of lesser parts. I am not nothing, cognito ergo sum.

You philosophy is sort of laughable.

>>716006101
This place is finite.
This place is a test and it's not fun.
I hope you make it.

>>716006751
Exactly! It's meaningless!
Get it? How's the sand box so far?
You think therefore you are?
You think?
That's also meaningless.

>>716006990
No way. I'm not eliminating my ego again.
Fuck that. I'm trying to push him overboard so he can figure it out too. That other side is way wicked.

>>716006835
If you cannot find the Joy that exists in life, you're not making it. I have the life eternal, I hope you find it as well.

>>716007026
It has meaning because I think it does. Your think life is meaningless because you cannot face your own sin. You live in smugness and self-justification but all it brings you is pain. You try and find meaning in the pain but can't because, if you do, you'll realize the only one causing you pain is you.

>>716007318
I have it too. It was a darn steep price. I guess the way I'm doing it is wrong. Those self righteous who think they can create right and wrong have no idea the crap they're getting into. I guess they don't need to know darkness to understand the light, but those fuckers are that close to it, I just want them to see it.

>>715991299

Find Jesus Christ and accept him as your lord and savior. I used to be a pathetic neckbeard, wallowing in my own self pity, and I contemplated putting a bullet in my head, but then I stumbled upon a link which led me to the sermons of Billy Graham, and I've realized ten truth. God the Father, Son, and Spirit created all things, and loves you more than you can comprehend.

Your purpose, the purpose of life, is to serve God, your creator, and if your faith is genuine and you truly make an effort to worship Jesus, you'll feel the difference. And when you die, you'll be with him in all his splendor for all of eternity. Obviously, I've relapsed, which is evident, as I'm browsing /b/ of all places, but trust me, Jesus Chirist loves you, and he died upon the cross so that you could be made whole, and he arose three days later.

>>716007712
It's a tough road to be sure. The price is only steep in appearance. As you look behind you, further down the road, it feels as if what you gave up never had any value to begin with. Just wait a decade, and see. I once thought the price was steep, now, having it, I'd gladly make the me of then pay ten times as much.

>>716008059
(as if that were possible)

>>716001668
>ACTUALLY can't use a dictionary
It makes me genuinely sad how stupid the average person is compared to how they could be.

Eat, Shit, Shelter, Procreate

That's essentially it. We obscure the basics with stupid things like 'purpose'. Eating, getting and maintaining shelter require resources. You go to work to obtain said resources in the form of money.

That's it.

what's the point? these trips

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To browse dank memes

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>>715991299
To be born, to live,perhaps to learn, perhaps to love, to die.

>Then?

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>>715991783
to create your own memeing***

>>715991787
>literally in your hands

hands are using keyboard sarry

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>>715991787
Kind of foolish to put your life in /b/'s care.

If YOU do not think it is worth anything why would they?

Christfag here.

listen you are a child of God.

He made you.

Things are about to get very interesting.

So either stick around and witness them.
Or off yourself and see what ever is next?

It is really up to you.

There are plenty of options.

But hey if you think a rope holds the truth?
Who is most likely to find your body?

>>715991299
>>716006796

Continue to live. You may think God doesnt love you, and youre right. You werent designed to be loved. You see, God has His chosen flock. Kim Kardashian, Selena Gomez, the popular 6'2" guy during high school that fucked the one girl you were friendzoned with. God wants his children to be happy, to experience joy and excitement for life. Thats why you exist Anon. You see, how can you define happiness without knowing sadness and pain? By its very definition, happiness requires an antithesis to exist. Your purpose driven life is to be miserable, alone, and painful so that those who bullied you, rejected you, and judged you, can experience happiness by having you to compare with in order to evaluate thier personal worth.

When your true love's boyfriend fucks her deep in her tight ass tonight, his hard cock wont be diamonds because she smells great, has perky tits, or has such a tight butt. Itll be hard because you exist.

I learned this as the meaning of life and i have stopped fighting against the current. I now know that no matter what we do, we will never become the version of ourselves we daydream about. I suggest you come to terms with this as well.

Good night Anon.

>>716010671

>What Christ fags ACTUALLY believe

Please never reproduce

>>716010683

Spoken like a true loser

Take what is yours, or move aside and others will

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>>716010776
>Never reproduce.

LOL

"Fag".

No worries.

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>>716011742

Bless you kind fag

THIS FUCKING THREAD HAS BEEN GOING FOR 4 HOURS AND 9 MIN

KILL ALL OF YOURSELVES ASAP

WTF

>>715991299

Read a series of books called "Conversations with god". They did it for me.

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>>716012109
That will never work.
I am allergic to caffeine.

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>>716012518

How about a little milk ?