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Why do English language need double plural? You must use plural

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Why do English language need double plural?

You must use plural indicator "these" and then use plural word after: "these mice"
Why won't "this mice" or "these mouse" make sense? The double plural seems excessive and I hate this.

We should cancel the double plural. This dogs or these dog. Which should we drop the plural indicator or the plural noun? I think fuck nouns but the indicator should go?
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>>715693223
>why do all actually used languages have illogical constructs and exceptions
interesting topic OP, I suggest you stop posting so we will not have to read texts written in awful languages
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Also your verbs are fuck. "I ran yesterday" past tense. "I went running yesterday" past tense? Why use action tense for past? It makes no sense.
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Who gives a shit? Either way, most languages have this "double plural". You are the one who has to adapt.
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>>715693445
>Also your verbs are fuck.
You need to put fucked in the past tense you retard
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>>715693223
What have am going to read?
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>>715693445
Those are two different past tenses, simple and compound. That comes from french by way of latin.
Does your language not have 6 or 7 tenses?
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>>715693814
Icelandic has 4 tenses, no double plural but very stupid 3 gender, masculine feminine and neutered
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>>715693973
You must be both underage and the dumbest person in Iceland. Do you get good grades compared to your classmates? Are you black?
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>>715693223
I don't know what third world shithole you come from, but you'd better learn to embrace English if you want to make it anywhere in the world other than a shallow grave dug by your fellow hut-dwellers.
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>>715694191
There are no black in iceland. Only Icelandic
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>>715694191
>>715693973
This was meant to you if you are OP. Ignore otherwise
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>>715694195
Yes only the 3rd world does not speak English
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>>715694367
It was a key question to understand OP's mental retardation
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We all better start learning Russian anyway. I'm getting ready as we speak.
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I am refuse to use the double plural. I will change the language?
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>>715693223
Go back to the shithole you were conceived in, faggot.
English is one of the simplest languages known to man. No need for newspeak.
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>>715693814
The compound uses a totally different verb than French passé composer. But there are actually useful aspects to this feature such as being able to apply the action tense if the past tense is unknown
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>>715694608
>English is one of the simplest languages known to man
>being this naive
>not realising English has very few consistent rules and is full of exceptions to the few rules that exist.
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>>715694706
Not naive at all, English is my second language.
I started learning it when I was about 14 years old.
I know what I'm talking about.
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>>715694656
>as being able to apply the action tense if the past tense is unknown
Example please
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>>715694553
>I am refuse
Yes ... Yes, you are
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>>715694838
New speakers mostly. A dude knows what "running" means, but does not know "ran". So by only knowing a few key words (went, was, etc) he can make himself understood
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>>715694933
Fuck
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>>715693814
>that comes from french by way of latin

Wait... what? What comes from French by way of Latin? English verb tenses? English is a Germanic language. We've got plenty of French words we've taken, French vocabulary, but that's about it.
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>>715693223
>non-native speaker telling us how to speak

How about you go back.
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>>715694195
tfw Scandinavia
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>>715695779
>one must live in an English country to speak English
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>>715695939
Every Scandinavian I've met - be they Danish, Swedish or Finnish - have spoken proper english.
You must be a special kind of retard.
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>>715696249
I am to change English to my liking?
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>>715696041
In that case, stay.
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>>715695564
Yeah um did you know that English is a bastard language with many roots? And it shares common lineage to French? I mean the two nations were at war for hundreds of years, they definitely picked up each others language
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>>715693536
Under rated post
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>>715697086
>Yeah um
Go back to tumblr, you walking waste of oxygen
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>>715695564
Many words and grammatical rules come from Latin, although the overall structure remains germanic
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>>715697086
>? And it shares common lineage to French? I mean the two nations were at war for hundreds of years, they definitely picked up each others language

Are you a massive retard? English syntax and pronunciation and roots are Germanic. And English uses a lot of French vocabulary because England was basically founded by French speaking Normans and was occupied by Latin speaking Romans.
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>>715697192
In a wheelchair bitch. Also Tumblr is cancer.
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>>715693223

Why don't you fuck off and deal with it foreigner.
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>>715697289
Syntax maybe. But roots are varied and pronunciation rules extremely varied
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>>715697313

Go back to tumblr where you can score sympathy points with your pretentious writing and your disability.
Are you seriously trying to sound badass while chained to a wheelchair?
I'd tell you to step up, but I can see how that ends.
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>>715697086
>The two nations were at war for hundreds of years

I think you mean the English were ruled by the French and the French kings of England and France disagreed on who was the legitimate king of both.
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>>715697621
No. Just pointing out that I am not walking around. Also a shit tier pun. Get some originality
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>>715697726
Yeah that. France and England have shared and changed territory a lot
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>>715693385
hue
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No it does not.

It's pretty much the same in spanish, although spanish plural words are usually the same as their singular counterpart but with an "s" or "es" (if it ends in consonant), whereas in english, some plural variants are just entirely different words. E.g


This mouse
These mice

Este raton
Estos ratones
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>>715697086
>bastard language

No it's not. I just told you where it came from. It's a Germanic language that has evolved into its modern form like all Proto-Indo-European languages.
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>>715698489
So the entire English language is germanic in origin? Every aspect?
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>>715693223
If you don't like English, then don't fucking use it.
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>>715699464
Fuck forced to
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>>715700096
If you're forced to, then just put up with it and proceed with your day.
Don't complain.
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>>715697621
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>>715700141
Bitches get stitches
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>>715700725
Sucked my dick
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>>715693223
A fuck
Two fucks
That fuck
This fuck
Those fucks
Their fucks
There, you fuck

fuck, you happy now Op?
They're fucking
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>>715701393
No you fuck
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>>715693223
If you need an English speaker to practice with, i may consider skyping with you
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>>715693973
>but very stupid 3 gender, masculine feminine and neutered

Same in german. A friend from Ireland once said, "How the fuck should I know if the table is male or female".
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>>715701722
I can speak English well enough i but hate double fucking plural
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>>715701974
Check underneath obviously
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>>715701974
Depends how the table identifies
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>>715702751
That only works in the U.S.
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>>715693223

Because the double "iss" is harder to say clearly and easier to confuse. Think about it for half a second before you post, dingus
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>>715698425
same in italian,
il topo
questo topo
i topi
questi topi
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>>715693223
>Why do English language

Learn English, then you get a say on how it should be.
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Maybe you shouldn't have grown up speaking caveman you fucking cro magnon
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>>715696041

Actually, I think one must live in an English country to speak English correctly. ESL-kun please GTFO,
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>>715703959
>Actually, I think
good for you, massive faggot
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>>715697313

Instant karma!
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>>715693223
Now that you have pointed this out it will bug me forever...
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>>715704222
Trips confirms fuck double plurals
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>>715693223
Your laziness and/or severe mental retardation is showing
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>>715704286
Holy hell,that was the first time ive ever gotten trips.
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>>715693223
Demonstrative adjective specify "which one" you're referring to, as in, "This dog right here," or, "That dog over there." It isn't a double plural, either. It's just agreement between different components of a sentence, which isn't unique to English.
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>>715699111
>>715699111
No I wrote that sentence really poorly. Here's another go at it:

English is a Germanic language, and it has evolved as all Proto-Indo-European languages have.
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>>715697203
Very few grammatical rules (virtually none) come from Latin. The ones you're thinking of are probably:

>never end a sentence with a preposition

This was artificially carried over by a clergyman/bishop and Latin scholar who, having nothing better to do, wrote a book on English grammar with a whole bunch of rules he took from Latin and applied to English.

>never split an infinitive

It's not possible to split an infinitive in Latin because infinitives in Latin are one single word. There are instances in English where an infinitive *must* be split in order for the sentence to make sense.
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How do I even past tense a future for why?
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Why are there 2 past for get? Got and gotten
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>>715697289
> massive retard
nice ad hominem. it really proves your point. have you ever heard of a little thing called old english? that form of the english language comes from german, but then we get to a little thing called "middle english" when the romance languages started to have a heavy influence in the english languages, changing the syntax thusly. modern english has been heavily influenced by romance languages in terms of tenses, even if you refuse to learn that. You cannot look at old english and then look at modern english and pretend that they are one and the same
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>>715705201
Okay. So it's a bastard like most widespread languages?
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>>715707410
Not the guy you're responding to, but you really are talking out your ass.

Middle English comes from Old English. Old English comes from West Germanic. Germanic comes from Proto-Indo-European. And at no point before reaching PIE do the two, English and French, ever cross paths in any meaningful way. You'll see on some charts (pic related) a dotted line from French to Middle English, but it's dotted for a reason, and that's to signal the borrowing of VOCABULARY.

The *vocabulary* we take from anywhere and everywhere, but sure, mostly French. The actual grammar and syntax is Germanic. Any grammatical "rule" you've learned that has been taken from French or Latin is, frankly, bullshit. See post >>715705567
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