Why do you not believe in God when you have no evidence against

Fuck off faggot

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>>715638582
>one true Holy Bible

mainly because god doesnt exist and everything has a scientific explanation

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>>715638582
>Why do you not believe in God

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>>715638582
step 4

>>715638864
i see a polish cock there

>>715638864
That is the wicked work of Satan

If everything has a scientific explination, explain what created science....

>>715639060
Exactly

>>715638582
Exactly. The Bible is 2000 years old. It was written when men didn't even see the entirety of the earth. Why do Christfags still think it's valid in a modern society?

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>>715638582

>>715638582
agnostic here
fuck christianity and also fuck atheism too

>>715638989
>That is the wicked work of Satan
If god is all powerful and merciful, why does he allow it?

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JESUS wants your semen for breakfast

>>715639309
You can't question the actions of God, he has a superior plan for the greater good. Those poor souls rest eternally in heaven.

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>>715638582
Tedious troll is tedious.

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Look at dinosaurs! If thats not the image of a demon or a divine beast I dont know what is?

God is dead, hallelujah.

>>715638582
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you.

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>>715640420
rip george

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Is everyone in this thread arrogant enough to say they know anything about theology?

Theology is a very complex field of study. It involves Philosophy, history, Literary studies, Languages etc.

On top of that the language of theology like: Consubstantiation, Simul Justs et Pecator, Council of Trent... To name a few: Represent a very in depth field of study.

Its sad to think most of you here think you know anythign about theology, when people like aquinus have written 2,000 pages just on communion alone. If you want to combat theology then combat theology, dont just pretend like you know anything because your mom is catholic.

>Pic Related: I'm 1 year away from going to seminary to become a Pastor in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod

>>715638582
>People who lived millennia ago write a neat little story that conveniently explains a lot of things that they don't understand
>fast forward a few thousand years
>people still take it seriously

>>715640548
>missouri

>>715640548
Lame. What a waste of life.

>>715640548
Are you a bible literalist?

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>>715640420
>e sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!


Is that so? Wow. Your knowledge of theology amazes me.

Get real man. That is not what the 10 commandments are for. They are a mirror to show us the world is imperfect. That no one is perfect. They are not just a set of rules we HAVE to follow.

Also: Sola Fide. Look it up

>>715640548
Btw, Bart Ehrman went to seminary and became an atheist, yet was still interested in biblical scholarship. Godspeed, christfag, godspeed.

>>715640759

That question depends on what you define as 'bible literalist'. For example I recognize that the book of revelation is symbolic and prophetic. Not meant to be taken literally. I also believe the parables Jesus tells are merely parables. Also I understand the literary devices used to make psalms and proverbs and do not directly view them as ultra literal, as I see them in their context and style.

>>715640981
That's all good and well established. The problem is believing in a 6000 year old humanity. Why do you believe the Bible is God's revelation to humanity?

>>715640548
I don't think many of us here care much for theology. I guess that warm nostalgic feeling some people get when they're in the midst of prayer or jubilation is enough to make them want to study it; but I tend to think the majority of people don't wan't to align themselves with black text hard belief written in a time when the earth was flat.

Congratulations in your field of study, I'm sure you've spent much time and money. However, there's no need to feel sad for those who choose evidence over human emotion & tradition of rituals.

>>715641273

I believe the bible is God's revelation to humanity because I chiefly believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead three days after being crucified. I believe he is true God true man and part of the holy trinity.

All of the Christian Doctrine I believe in therefore, stems from that central fact.

The gospels I therefore treat like historical documents (Which the bible even refers to

Acts 1:1 "In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach" (Luke)

Therefore things like Communion and baptism are very important because we see Christ instituting them, but much discussion from the apostles on such matters.

Do I believe the universe is 6000 years old? Well lets see what the Romans say In the 1950 encyclical Humani generis, Pope Pius XII confirmed that there is no intrinsic conflict between Christianity and the theory of evolution, provided that Christians believe that the individual soul is a direct creation by God and not the product of purely material forces.

Hmmm interesting!

>>715641604
>'ve spent much time and money. However, there's no need to feel sad for those who choose evidence over human emotion & tradition of rituals.

>Implying Aquainus wrote Summa Theologica because he felt warm and fuzzy while praying
>Implying Martin Luther EVER felt warm and fuzzy and never felt tormented
>Implying Christianity is a bronze age story and those who believe in it fail to recognize evidence

You make alot of assumptions.
Also I dont feel sad for those who 'choose evidence' As I feel I am one of those people. I believe the ressurection of Christ is the best explination for the situation. You can choose not to believe that because 'people cant be raised from the dead' or 'its a made up story' but I would love to challenge you to make that statement with no knowledge on the history of the event from primary, secondary and crediable non biblical sources.

Also: Hes Jesus, what made him special was that he COULD raise from the dead, not simply stating "Nobody can raise from the dead"... that claim would make him bound to physics, and hes God. He formed constants.

>>715639060
An advanced civilization but it sure as shit isn't God

>>715638582
I don't want to believe in a god that would let atrocities like the Holocaust and 9/11 happen. Why didn't he intervene? He's let millions upon millions of people die unjustly. Why?

That's why I don't believe in god.

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>>715639548
Cop out

>>715642374
Oh... I didnt know you were a fan of the discovery channel. Do you always just formulate opinions based on what other people say, without ever actually thinking about what it is that comes out of your mouth..

>youre a scientologist

>>715641872
Matthew 24
As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Jesus confirms a global flood. Didn't happen. He also confirms Adam and Eve. Didn't happen. Either he was a liar, or we have a more logical solution, such as the Bible is full of myths mixed with some historically accurate accounts.

>>715642424
Again, whitch craft and abominable works of Lucifer

>>715642424
Read C.S. Lewis's book "The Problem of Pain"
Also.. you clearly are an uneducated pleb. Sooo many books have discussed and dismantled the exact problem you have, and it makes perfect philisophical sense, if you read it.

The problem is you dismiss it immediatley, continue to jerk off to ebony porn and think you have a trump card on Christians.

Chirstianity has been around for 2,000 years. Youre not the first person to think of that problem. Read one of the 1,000,0000 pages written on it pleb.

>Fuck... People dont read theology but somehow are experts on it

7202024552

Call me and debate me fgt

Christ is not god. Christianity is not divine. It's the collected sayings of herders and shamans. God, if it exists, has no need of religion. Humans have need of religion and all they do is fuck it up.

>>715640981
That's the first step in deconstructing the Bible to what it really is, a collection of stories written by men with agendas

>>715641872
You believe that somebody rose from the dead? But I'm sure you find Xenu throwing hydrogen bombs into volcanos utter lunacy?

>>715638582
I do not have a reason to disbelieve in a god. I do, however, have reason to doubt any human religion. Throughout history religion has been used as a system of control, because religion, at its core, is a way of thinking. Anything that can control how people think has complete control over them. Think of it this way, the nation that instills a set of morals in its people is the nation that shall last indefinitely, for as long as those morals exist and are taught to people and people obey them, those who obey act like, or similar to, citizens of that nation. Even long after the nation ceases to exist, people still follow the "moral code" it set up.

Does that make sense?

>>715642539
Oh surprise surprise... another theologian!

God] created beings and allowed them to develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one, so that they were able to develop and to arrive and their fullness of being. He gave autonomy to the beings of the universe at the same time at which he assured them of his continuous presence, giving being to every reality. And so creation continued for centuries and centuries, millennia and millennia, until it became which we know today, precisely because God is not a demiurge or a magician, but the creator who gives being to all things... The Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world, does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires it. The evolution of nature does not contrast with the notion of creation, as evolution presupposes the creation of beings that evolve.[

Catholic Churhes stance: GENESIS IS NOT A SCIENCE TEXTBOOK

Also Almost every ancient civilization has a story about a flood. Maybe it wasnt the world. But it sure was a big flood!

Also Catholic Priest formulated big bang Idea.

Science and Religion have always been tight idiot.

That God would allow tampering to his inmutable word, means there is no God, for how could he condemn anyone based on a document with error and hearsay?

>>715643018
Jesus is a historical figure. With Evidence and proofs. Is Xenu?

>>715642511
No I'm not religious at all, you actually believe that the only entity that exists outside of human intelligence has to be a Christian God. You are an idiot.

>>715643105
>table word, means there is no God, for how could he condemn anyone based on a document with error and hearsay?

Error and heresy. Would love to hear your interesting speech pleb. Are you going to talk about the ressurection account? Or maybe the book of enoch?
>Lets hear it as if it hasnt been discussed, children

>>715643172
As a man, I don't deny that dumbass

>>715643229
I didnt say that.. But what you just said is the tenants of Scientology. Were you born retarded?

>>715643080
A honestly valid point

>>715643332
Im saying the best explination for the events surrounding the crucifixion and claims of seeing, not only Jesus but many others, rise from the dead, is that it actually happened.

>>715643172
Jesus is not a historical figure. No contemporary accounts of his life exits. The writings of a cult are mot proof.

>>715643080

So your kids are never joining cub scouts of America?

>>715643453
provide proof.

>>715643489
You are an idiot. Simple google search or trip to the library will help you see many non biblical evidences of Jesus's existence. The biggest being Flavius Josephus.

>>715643342
Yes you did fuck wad, you said you were a Christian. Therefore you believe there is God and man nothing else, no advanced civilizations, no aliens. How retarded are you? You have to be a troll, good job.

>>715643086
Let's not get sidetracked. You quasi-confirmed a literal take on the Bible, minus Revelation, the Psalms and Proverbs, etc.

If Genesis didn't happen, and God can't get science right, then what use is this "divine revelation"? And further, why must God use a book, and not simply speak to humanity, not just Christians? Seems pretty simple to me. The fact that so many people exist who have NO CLUE what the Bible says, give me pause to think maybe, just maybe, God doesn't exist.

>>715638582
> not understanding how the burden of proof works
> not understanding that believing something because there is no evidence directly against it would make the existence trivial

shiggy

>>715643559
Great Introductory clip. There are so many non biblical sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ZF3K8sUxY&t=2662s

>>715643453
Welp logic just went out the window

>>715643631
Since when did Lutheranism ever deny the existance of other beings. Find me one statement in the book of Concord or bible that says that... idiot. are you fucked?

>>715643453
I hate to be that guy linking a long youtube video on the subject instead of typing it out but considering that even if I did explain all this shit to you it probably wouldn't change your beliefs because that's how delusions work, but to any hypothetical neutral third parties interested in the historicity of Jesus of Nazerath here is a very good presentation by Richard Carrier on the topic. Carrier is an actual historian and not some Christcuck on 4chan. tl;dw - Christ didn't exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

>>715643674
Look at nature, all the proof of God I need is there. It's too perfect to be an accident

>>715643763
you have read the Bible right?

>>715643687
see>>715643783
there really fucking aren't

>>715643489
Wrong.

>>715643957
Good argument.

>>715643647

God did get science right. He wanted to point creation to him... which he did. Genesis is not a science text book, and can be taken as a book with grand imagrey. How would people 700 years ago understand the intricacies of evolution or chemical reactions making the big bang. The average pleb couldnt. Genesis was written so many people over many times can appreciate God as creator of all, co existant with scientific observations.

Also God has to use a book because it becomes concrete.
And just because people dont understand doesnt mean there is no meaning..
Thats like saying "What does stephen hawking say in a brief history of time??? I dont understand.. maybe it says [inser bullshit]" so everything in his book is wrong?

>>715643844
Yes.. obviously more times than you.

>>715643294
Arrogant. Hypocrite. You know what your own holy book says about that. Good luck in seminary, amigo. Maybe you'll realize what a scam religion is and actually do something useful or fun with your life.

>>715643829
Yes, the parasites that gestate behind the eyes of children and then claw their way out after reaching maturity are too 'perfect' for their to be no god, indeed as perfect as our bizarre eyes which work in an obnoxiously roundabout way to communicate sight to our squishy and hormone-wracked brains. The wretched insects that swim up urethra in the Amazon truly express the beauty of god's plan. Fuck off idiot

>>715638582
>drunk on the opiate of the masses
Stop ruining my world with your neverending wars and hate as mandated by your 'god' of blood and vengeance.

>>715644083
You missed that anons point entirely

>>715643783
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

It is a scholarly fact Jesus actually existed as a man.. even precious Dawkins admits it.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=lwzliMSRGGkC&redir_esc=y

>>715643086
Hey, man. . . I'm a Christian too. I'm a biblical literalist too . . . I understand you want to challenge these people and to try to reason with them to consider that their own metaphysical perspective is (at least) just as much a product of ignorance as they believe ours is, but Make sure your are doing it with the right attitude (not superior) right resources (it doesn't help to say go read a book, present the arguments yourself at least in a basic form so they know there are answers with that intention explicitly stated) right spirit (love, humility, prayerful, pleading, and unmoving) and right intentions (to evangelize and to spread the knowledge of the gospel, not to intellectually trump your enemies. Engage them, challenge them, dismantle their self- destructive pilosophies and do so with confidence but make sure you can make the argument you set out to, and do so with prayer, and do so with out pride in anything except your God

>>715644083
You are picking and choosing which parts of the Bible should be taken literally and which figuratively.

>>715644192
Did I ... Cite your verse saying I cant believe in Aliens.

>>715644356
What are you Pentacostal? Get real.. Lutheranism and Catholicism are closer to truth than what you practice.

>>715644301
Is there evidence and documentation outside of a biblical source of his deeds though?

>>715644301
If you watch the video you'll see that Carrier addresses this point. Suffice it to say, Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist and not a historian and in that instance was merely deferring to what he believed to be the prevailing opinion of the field.

Carrier, on the other hand, is a scholar of ancient history and looking at the evidence with even the loosest requirements of historicity he argues that there is no historical proof for Jesus. Watch the video before you bring up these piddling rebuttals. Dawkins isn't the emperor of atheism.

>>715644361
Oh interesting.. Have you taken a literature course? 40 authors over several thousands of years and they all write in the same style?

>>715644048
Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned--

>>715638582
Why don't you believe Aragon is king?
I read it in a book. It's true.

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>>715644574
For the love of...

>>715642656
So if God created the Angels... And one of these angels was Lucifer/Satan... And Lucifer is responsible for all of the bad things that happen... Does that mean that God is ultimately to blame for all the evil in the world?

If God has a plan for ALL of us, and he decides our fate ahead of time, how is God not responsible for all the bad things that occur?

Also... What's in it for God? Why does he do anything? Why did he make humanity?Was he bored? Aren't you worried that he might become bored with this existence and hit the reset button? How do you sleep at night believing that there is a an all powerful being somewhere out there that is only a mood away from erasing you from existence?

Oh that's right, he loves you! Becuase you know I've never heard of somebody murdering the shit out of somebody they loved. All well enjoy your "afterlife".

>>715644775
God the father?

>>715644872
God made you stupid boy

>>715644440
>what
>said pretty much only that i was a biblical literalist
>what
>are you Christian? If so why bother with this minor detail of denomination?
>if not why care and All of them to you are infinitely far from truth
>what

Dubs or God isn't real

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>>715645102
What is the name of that symbol? I have always been curious about it as it reminds me of the sign left by the serial killer BTK (Bind,Torture,Kill).

As far as I know he was never involved in any cult or satanic activity.

>>715645561
Not the guy who posted, but I'm pretty sure it's the symbol for the leviathan.

>>715645561
its the symbol for sulphur(brimstone) and know as the leviathan cross

>>715642711
I don't know what you're so mad about. OP asked a question and I answered it. I'm not saying that I'm 100% correct or that "AAaahhh, all Christians are wrong REEEEEE"
I'm only saying that I don't believe, and that's why. I don't wish to demean anyone who is a Christian, or followers of any religion, for that matter, I'm only stating my beliefs.

>>715645659
Thanks!

>>715645872
>I don't wish to demean anyone who is a Christian, or followers of any religion, for that matter

If someone is presented with evidence that contradicts their worldview and they don't even for a moment consider the possibility that they might be wrong and may need to amend their worldview, then those people are delusional and that's not me demeaning them that's me stating a fact.

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>>715645839
>sulfer(brimstone) and known as the leviathan cross
Isn't that this?

>>715645839
lol, anyone who has played The Binding of Isaac knows about that brimstone.

>>715646058
Yes, because all information and symbols from all video games are 100% correct always

>>715646015
Dude, punctuation is important.

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>>715646020
>>715645102

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>>715640548

Then I strongly suggest you read Revelations 2-3. Become familiar with the seven types of churches. Be as Smyrna or Philidelphi,

Too many become Pastors, far more interested in profits then in prophets.

The parable of the Sower (Matt 13) is the only Parable Christ ever explained plainly. If you are unable to understand it then you should seek a filed where you do not teach on behalf of God or his words.

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>>715646015
Stop being so arrogant.
You won't get anywhere that way

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>Jesus this, Moses that, Abraham hit me with a wiffleball bat!

>>715646665
Its not like I say this to religious people whenever I bump into them. But I realize that they are either ignorant or delusional and don't fool myself into believing otherwise. One can be cognizant of this fact without publicly being an abject asshole.

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>>715646606
Hell I think you meant?

Let him go there alone.

Don't follow him willingly.

>>715638582

I'm biting the bait, but I am drinking, so I shall say fuck it.

Personally, I have never read The God Delusion, nor do I plan on reading it. My whole thing is that do we really know which religion is the true religion? As a Christian, you can say your religious text is true, whereas I'll have a Muslim come up and tell me theirs is the truth. Hell, how do we even know we have discovered the one (or multiple) true god(s)? How do we know there isn't a god at all? If there is a loving god that loves me, why wouldn't they reveal themselves to the skeptic, like myself, so that we may be saved?

This isn't to say that I am an atheist, but rather that I am agnostic. I haven't ruled out the possibility of there not being a god or gods because we simply may not have discovered him/her/them/it yet.

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>>715638582

People should know that there is not just one religion and the attributes of god is not same in every religion (except abrahmic).

Instead of using the word 'Religion', you should me more specific because you put every religion under one umbrella when you use the word 'religion'. If you want make fun of mohammad flying on a donky then use the word 'islam' dont blame every religion for it. There are some very complex concept of god in many civilization.

>>715647300
This

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>>715647196
>the Lord sure did say a lot of hibbity jibbity bibbity swibbity…but, has he ever really done anything for any of us?

>>715647300
Well by your reasoning if there is a god he's either not omnipotent or a complete fucking dick. Either way hardly worth worship, so you may as well go full atheist.

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>>715647333
/b/rolly

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>>715647476
Christ yes.
He simplified the Law.
He gave us a way in..

Believe, and do unto others as you would have others do unto you,

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>>715647809
>Christ yes
>Gives 2 examples, both of which have no evidence or explanation, one of which doesn't even fucking make sense

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>>715647161
What? You called him an uneducated pleb.

Just because numerous books discuss his concerns, does not mean there is an end all be all answer that he is willingly ignorant of.

Also the word evidence shouldn't leave your mouth when discussing religion for obvious reasons.

>>715645561
looks like the symbol for traps

>>715648047
He was an atheist. He might be an idiot for other reasons, but on the matter of god he is at the very least not delusional. I was criticizing him for taking an apologetic position on religion. His response was to tone police. I pointed out that my tone didn't make my point wrong and that I can easily monitor my tone to my audience anyway. You seem to have read an entirely different conversation or are just trolling. Based on your final point I'm guessing just trolling.

>>715645561
blair witch/10

Are you going to prove that god exists? I honestyl would rather not believe in a higher force. Than force myself to believe in it, because I do not cannot explain all of the bad stuff that is happening to us right now. In my opinion you can o wahtever you want to do. I have friends who believe in god, and theyre cool! You do you, but me do me...

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>>715648354
Funny, the final point is the one absolute fact.

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>>715647981
You would not understand it if he told you himself.

See
>>715646490
It really is a most important set of texts.

If you have eyes to see and can not read? It was not meant to be.

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>>715638582
>Dawkins
Who is Dawkins?

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>>715649183
Even Satan understands Gods plan.

He just refuses to exaplin it to you with out his own selfish twists.

Look how close these two >>715647809
>>715647933
are and yet miles apart.

You niggers are so cute with your crosses and faggy satan graphics. How anyone takes what you say seriously is beyond me.

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>>715649481
>Satan understands Gods plan.

>>715644751

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>>715649714

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>>715650015
Y'all niggas gay

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>>715650246

>>715650443
Look, I get it dude. My 13 year old little cousin likes Ghost too

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>>715650745

>>715650868
Acrylic and spray paint isn't spooky

>>715651095
this

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>>715651095

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>>715651449
Cute! I love pictures of kids

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>>715651957

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Here's another cutie

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>>715652309
>dead niglet
>nothing of value was lost

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>>715652486
Better?

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>>715652717

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>>715638582
I had this thought before I had a nightmare of getting murdered last night...

We have had many scientific breakthroughs since we've had scientists/astrologists etc. and all of these things were challenged by the church, things like the earth being flat, the earth being the center of the universe or evolution. All of these false facts were told by the church, and now we're following a 2000 year old religion that preaches 2000 year old commandments, and they aren't even commandments, they're just human morals people should try to follow.

When humans were first on earth, they warshiped the sun, the moon, the constellations... why the fuck are we following (along with any other religion) a god that had absolutely no proof of existence?

All people should be worshipping the sun because the sun actually gives us life, not some made up god by people thousands of years ago

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>>715653258
this guy gets it

>>715653536
>>715653258
Samefag

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>>715653721

>>715654247
Sure, take a screenshot then

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>>715654753
Nigga get the fuck out of here you catholic scum

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>>715654753

>>715655117
>>715655171
Lol, good monkeys.
Now dance!

>>715638582
Not to mention all the supernatural occurances
But the problem is that there is not problem, the world is like a frequency wave constantly vibrating and what these ghost/angels/demons/satan/god might be just beings from anothether tune like dimension maybe realm think about it
And reptoids... they're real
This planet once use to be a eutopia before that shit with the reptillians
They want you to believe the earth revolves around you!
Freedom is the way

>>715656330
>Not to mention all the supernatural occurrances
Like?

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>>715638582
>when you have no evidence against him?

Then I have no evidence against anything and all gods and invisible people and beings exist. When are you going to stop being a faggot? This is why your parents don't really like you. Does logic just go over your head like the joke your life is?

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I am the great god Kek. I have taken this thread, and declare all dubs wishes come true.

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>>715656618
let the whole world burn
checkem

>>715657127
nerp

>>715656474
Like this man i know his knees were out for like 6 months and one day serbia called apon him to come but the flight he was supposed to take got delayed, instead he went our local monastary to pray and was just talking to the holy icons out of nowhere a voice but nobody knows what ahe said only the man ill ask him later, he did say he felt somthing surround his knees and then miracle, guys knees heal like energy

>>715657614
Only happened a few months ago

Im not sure I really believe in an almost all powerful God, but I do enjoy the teachings that are in the Bible. I like the Bible just like how I like the Harry Potter books, I can appreciate good literature.

Just because you don't believe in the actual god figure, doesn't mean the teachings in the Bible aren't valid. That shits like deep and can teach you shit... don't just dismiss it.

It's called faith.

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>>715638582
Are you guys retarded? This is the lowest tier of b8 there is.

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Religion is the only area in human society that has made ZERO progress in the last 2,000 years. Major Fail.

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>>715657127
My goat is better.

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>>715639267
Lol fucking hilarious

My favorite part about "agnostics" is that they don't even know that agnostic and Gnostic are supporting adjectives for a position

You act like you're the smartes but you don't even know what the word you claim to be even means

the burden of proof is on the religious

now go home

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>>715658677
>>715639267
My point btw

>>715658111
True

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>>715643489
Wow man, just wow.

I feel like reading every word in this thread
I'll let you know how it goes

>>715639239
Hell doesn't exist unless you are trapped in a cell with 4 massive black people you are fucked my friend

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>>715658111
Must have read a different bible than I did, one I read was lazy plotwise and "teachings" included such gems as "kid called you baldy?ok I'll kill him and 41 of his child friends for you" "other people sinned, so to punish them I made you gay" and "I don't really like women being able to teach....in fact don't let them have any authority over men whatsoever"

Thanks but no thanks

>>715638582
Why should we provide the evidence for your claims? This is whats wrong with religious people... Fucking back your own claims up you lazy cunts

>>715661148
you exist dont you?, check.

>>715642506
if life was perfect, and without suffering why would you seek god, when you play a game and you get so powerful and can one shot everything you get board so you make a new character so the challange is back, life is a drama, maya, you think yourself smarter than god? when you were a young boy you saw bugs on the floor, how fragile, yet you stamp on them, if you are so wise you knew alredy there was no need to kill these harmless creatures, yet you did it anyway..... why?

>>715638582
I have no evidence against reptilians. Yet still I don't belive in them. There's no such thing as "against evidence". I don't belive in God due to Ockham's razor. God is not necessary for world to exist.

>>715658333
aaaah a woderful bait, its because of relgion that we have such societys, you are ignorante if christianty is the first and formost religion you consider, religion is what brough communitys together you nit wit

>Why do you not believe in God when you have no evidence against him?
Evil exists. Therefore god either does not exist, is not omnipotent, or is not good.

And if Christ was right, the world would have ended nearly 2000 years ago.

>>715639267
being an indecisive fuck wit,becuase your scared of having your opinion question spend a little time researching so you can atleast choose

>agnostic master race here

top fucking kek loser, pic a fucking side and stay with your conviction.

>>715661263
What? Thats like saying that the moon is there because it exist

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>>715662170
When Christ said "This Generation" He did not mean his or the Apostles.

He meant the Generation that would exist when Israel was again refounded as a Nation,

That happened in 1948 Brother.

Prior to that for nearly 2000 years Israel did NOT exist as a nation.

Rightly divide the word and find Truth.

>>715662170
you touch somthing hot? ouch you think, how bad, well now you know that thing is hot and not to touch isnt that good? but you had to touch first to know

you indorse killing animals so that you can eat, is that good or bad, on one hand the animal has to die but on he other you are nurished from it.

the good and bad is only a percetion from your own habits and thoughts, i hardly think your judgement of what is good and what is bad is of the highest authority if you are not all good yourself

>>715662436
The lengths people have to go to "interpret" Jesus' words in such a way that they don't contradict reality are really quite amazing. Jesus said that the second coming would happen before people who were alive at the moment were gone.

>>715662790
do use a citiation please

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>>715662790
Not at all. In fact after teaching the related parable (The Sower -Matt 13) He even bothered to explain it.

No one actually reads that though they would rather debate all the Nonsense Paul wrote as if IT were the word of God.

>>715662790
Mark 13:32 says, "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

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>>715663578
We can not know the day or hour but the Season to be sure.

Some of us know Yeshua ben Yosef was not born in December.