There's a reason you beta faggots can't get girls or

This is correct

Bumping for a thread other than trap porn

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>>715466647
That there is one good post.

is really how it is?

>>715466647
cant say you are wrong.

Fuck you and your armchair psychology.

I can't keep a girlfriend because I get tired of their shit after a few months. And the few hours of sex per week don't make up for having to babysit their childish emotions.

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>>715466647
STFU

>>715468989
This advice is sincere and professional

>>715469271
That just means you dont WANT to keep a relationship. Doesn't mean yoi can't. There is a difference

>>715466647
>There's a reason you beta faggots can't get girls
And you don't drive a John Deere tractor!

Obvs written by a beta

>>715470672
>Beta nice guy detected

>>715470946
Girls like nice guys faggot. If girls don't accept your nice guy approaches, you're just ugly.

mean guy here, girlfriend worships me.

>>715471084
Your girl would want me to creampie her. I guarentee it

>>715471084
They don't really want you, they want you to take care of their children. They won't be yours, fun fact.

>>715471756
This.
You're in denial if you can't see this

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>>715466647
I've had two relationships that lasted around 3 years each. Plus some shorter ones before and between.

>treat women like they have something to offer

duh, obviously, at minimum the pussy

>listen to their problems and neglect to point out it's their fault

always listened, always pointed out and they never liked it (women just want passive audience, not criticism)

>accept their flaws

never, always tried to change them (works to some extent)

>ok with them having guy friends

nope, unless they were gay or complete cucks

>ask permission to do things

never

I don't know where I'm going with this post. Guess OP is right.

>>715472118
Same here. This shit is science
My buddy is the nice guy. He finally started dating at 23, had 2 gfs who lasted 6 months each almost on the dot.
>He never ever got blowjobs
>Both had a guy best friend
>Both would yell at him multiple times a fucking day
>Both gained 20 lbs
>Both had zero sex drive
You can't make this shit up

>>715466647
trips of truth

>>715466647
>trying this hard
Found the beta!

>>715472662
You disgust me

>>715472874
Another beta that chooses not to listen. Doomed to date entitled fat girls for all eternity

>>715472587

The problem with nice guys is that they attract these fucking man-like bitches who are basically unfit to be wives.

If she doesn't suck your cock, has guy friends who are more manly than you, bosses you around and feels entitled to shit, get out.

Even if you're a complete whimp, you must aim to be the man in the relationship.

>>715473029
Done with that kiddo, the dating scene. The swinging scene is fun.

>>715473229
That's how i got herpes. Swinging is over for me.

>>715471756
Anyone who dares to mess with my girl will get shot, fun fact.

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>>715466647
I am the Hammer,
I am the edge of His Sword,
I am the tip of His Spear,
I am the mail about His Fist,
I am the flight of His Arrows,

I am the right hand of my Emperor,
I am the instrument of His will,
I am His Sword as He is my Armor,
I am His Wrath and He is my Zeal,
I am the Bane of His Foes and the Woes of the Treacherous,

Let us be His Shield,
Let us speak His Word as He fuels the Fire of Devotion,
Let us fight His Battles, as He fights the Battle at the end of time,
And let us join Him there, for Duty ends not in Death,
In Vengeance be true, In Valor be Strong,

I am the Hammer,
I am the Sword,
I am the Spear,
I am the Shield,
I am the soldier at the End of Time.

>>715473316
you didn't screen?

Why do you even want a relationship with girls if you think we have nothing to offer? Why not just date them till you get bored and move on? Fyi: sex is not a valid response as sex with the same person tends to get mundane. Female here and curious.

teach us more oh jedi master!
have you been laid this year?

>>715473359
Don't listen to these fools. They think that they're alpha, and actually keep girls around by treating them like shit.

>>715473359
It's an exaggeration.
Girls offer companionship.
They do NOT offer anything worth changing our whole lives and trading in our dignities for or worth getting yelled at in our own homes. Many girls think they are worth those sacrifices to a man but they seriously don't bring anything special to the table.. just companionship, and there are plenty of girls willing to give us that without said sacrifices

>>715473715
Some girls do like being treated badly. It adds excitement to their bland lives but trust me when I say you don't want to marry or have kids with such a girl.

>>715473713
My girl of 4 years just moved in with me and i even wake up to blowjobs and i never get yelled at. You're welcome. Now go forth and spread your seed young one

I don't want anything to do with women

they're all nigger loving dog fuckers anyway

>>715473634
Please refer to >>715473747

>>715473849
Why not? A girl that awaits my arrival everyday and looks at me like shes some sparkly eyed school girl? Sounds good to me

>>715466647
>you accept their flaws instead of telling them their way of thinking is horseshit.
I tell them that all the fucking time, and I'm pretty sure it's one of the reasons I can't keep a gf for more than 2 years. They throw tantrums like children and tell me I'm being "so extra rn" whenever I tell them they're wrong. Maybe I'm a huge cunt, maybe it's because I'm only 23 and girls my age genuinely are stunted to the point of being emotionally unstable children who could spend an entire day pointing out the flaws of others even though they'll break down and cry the minute you start to put that same hyper-critical focus onto them and the way they behave.

Not too long ago, I had a girl telling me that I wouldn't attract girls if I wasn't wearing nice shoes. She also loved to point out the fact that I get over girls very quickly after we break up or fuck a few times, as if it says something about my character or that I was faking interest in them just to get laid.

i got sick of her trying to tell me how desirable I am, so I pointed out the fact that she was getting HIV tests, abortions, and having threesomes at the age of 16. I listed off the names of about 10 guys who she's fucked just because she's an insecure little cunt who's so desperate to feel wanted that she regularly takes dick from total strangers. We've been homies since junior high, but she never spoke to me again after that.

Should've done it years ago

>>715473747
It just reminds me why I don't bother dating. I see that sentiment so often men that I no longer take any guys interest at all seriously.

ITT: op projects all his problems on others

>>715474100
Because that's the type of girl that just wants drama and enjoys victimizing themselves. They are in fact insane and raising kids around such a woman with an abusive fucks like you would be a travesty. Unfortunately it's a thing that happens everywhere.

>>715474240
I also pointed out the fact that she dresses like a whore who's trying to draw away from how flat chested and out of shape she is. That might've been crossing a line though

>>715474288
Guys like me are rare. The other 90% will let you hit them and scream at them and make them pay for dinner until your hearts content. So chin up girl, you have the advantage of a massive selection of men who will worship you for no reason

>>715474497
In what way am i abusive? Cuz i hold her to the same standard women hold men? It ain't 1950 no more bro, equality has come to town and it's getting men everywhere laid

>>715474602
You just know that this isn't true.

>>715474602
They just want sex. It's not the same as love. In my opinion men just want sex from us and the only reason they even have lengthy relationships with girls at all is due to either social brainwashing about what's acceptable or a lack of sexual partners to choose from.

>>715474764
Because you want a girl that "likes" being treated badly logically this means you also want to abuse a woman. You are really rather bad at logic.

>>715474842
Girls just want kids. They want clothes. They want money. They want a nice house. All of these are to be covered by men. All we're asking for is some nice sex every once in a while. They don't have anything valuable to offer other than sex. What's the reason that we're attracted to women? Their appearance. Get used to it.

>>715474771
Yes it is. I coach alot of men on this believe me they are the majority. But women just don't find them attractive, so the woman is running thinking every guy is a dick but the guy thay will worship them is their friendzoned guy they aren't attracted to. This is why i don't feel bad for girls with relationship issues. They have a choice and the good choice is the majority but they never choose it

>>715466647

OP has a point
Used to be a beta fag

>Talking to this one girl before college lets call her anonette
>fuck her
>cut her off
>girls actually really nice and helpful
>start dating girl at college lets call her anonita
>always ask anonita what she wants to do
>talking to anonette, she tells me i have to take charge
>i take charge and now i run the whole relationship, anonita likes it that way
>tell her no hanging with her guy friends unless i approve of them, she says that's fine
>make her change whenever an attribute really pisses me off (mild annoyance is fine)
>i tell her whats her fault and whats someone elses fault in an argument

this shit works /b/ro's

never been happier

>>715475166
And that's why I don't date because the single thing I want from a relationship is love for someone I can love. I really don't want kids so if I can't have love I have no reason to date a guy.

>>715472662
gtfo you fucking faggot

>>715475382
No you don't

>>715474842
Oh, go fuck yourself. We're capable of all the same feelings you are and that superiority complex is probably why guys pretend to love you as long as they can pull it off.

The pussy is good, but you're just another asshole with a superiority complex who probably constantly talks down to/about guys without even realizing it. I don't want anything but blowjobs and raunchy sex from a dismissive bitch like that.

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>>715466647
I did this for 5 years she finally left me

>>715474842
That's not true. I look forward to everything we do together. I cherish every single moment cuz one day it could all go away. Women thinking like that is exactly why they have guy problems

>>715475508
probably cucked me hard af to. I have no clue. girls are better at cheating. I got caught 3 times

>>715475419
I don't think I'm "better" than men. I simply think I'm more capable of love. Women didn't invent much so I'd be in denial to say I was superior in most ways that actually matter.

>>715475282
Actually, I don't know if that's true at all. Girls may somehow get attracted to bad guys, maybe it's how they evolved. This was maybe a positive trait in the past back when bad guys would protect them from predators. Now it's usually the bad guys that do drugs, drink and smoke which ends up in a never ending shitstorm for the girl. However I just refuse to believe that the majority of men are willing to get on their knees for women. From my experience it's the opposite, most men just want to fuck them and then toss them. Only a few girls get lucky and wind up with nice guys, most wind up with douchebags.

>>715474317
I don't have problems. I come with knowledge and advice to all those in need. Someone taught me and now I'm here to teach you

>>715475430
no fuck off spiderman

"Thinking like that" as in accepting reality? Yeah it does put a damper on my dating life but so did all the emotional rejection and objectification.

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>>715466647
>women have nothing to offer
>they are always wrong and all have many flaws

Sounds to me like OP is just now realizing that he doesn't like girls at all. I bet you don't have these problems with other guys, right OP? You disgusting faggot

>>715475924
Yeah i can tell already you just aren't attracted to nice guys. That's just your blight. Walk into a newbury comics or a comicon and pick up a guy there and i PROMISE you find what you've always wanted. A large percentage of guys I've coached have hobbies related to that field

>>715475774
Of course you're more capable of love. All women are more capable of "love". The part of the brain that's responsible for emotions is more active in women. That doesn't mean that love is a positive trait. That doesn't mean that a man's heart can't be shattered by selfish women.

>>715475924
True fact. Most "nice guys" are putting on an act to either hide either their asshole tendencies or make up for being total losers. Honestly, the odd averagely intelligent kind guy usually has girls chasing him by time he's 25.

>>715475140
i like your way of thinking.

I might add that people like op often laugh at us "good" guys.

I dont fuck girls asses by force, i make them want me to fuck them in the ass.

so if that makes me a "good" guy beta loser, i am okay with it.

>>715473397
I would ravage your bitches pussy faggot

>>715476155
Wow that would be quite a twist if i was gay this whole time and never knew it. That'd be awesome though i always thought gays have it the best. They get to just blow eachother and play vidya all day. I wish i was gay

>>715476212
I never said it was a positive trait. But when I love a guy it isn't for his body. It's for his mind and general personality. I don't velueve men are capable of that. If a man's heart is "shattered" when a girl leaves it's likely just his ego being dented.

>>715466647
Not trolling, this is correct as fuck

>>715476252
Bad guy reporting. Girls have verbally begged me to stick it in their ass, there is no force. You have the wrong idea about "bad guys" most of us aren't abusive. It just looks like that to jealous betas

>>715476384
Maybe you're emotionally gay.
I think tumblr calls it homoromantic.. fuck girls love other men. :):)

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>>715476198
>new bury comics or comicon
Girls want nice guys, not nice 13 year old autistic children. you can be the nicest weirdo ever at comicon, you will still never get laid
There is a difference between a nice guy and a nice retarded faggot guy. Much like when a girl says she likes a bad guy, she doesn't like pic related

>>715466647
dude. i agree with betas not getting girls, but its nothing alpha about being in a relationship.
i think betas are the best at long term relationships, because they have no spine, and relationship dont mean they get laid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBDwETS_jbw

>>715476425
You aren't capable of a healthy relationship then so you're decision to leave the dating scene is correct.
You know happy ever after isn't possible for everyone and i hate to say it but you're one of those people. I know what kind of girl you are

>>715472118
This guy is even more correct, had a girl for 6 years after I followed this advice, dropped her cause I know my game is strong

>>715476563
Ig you aren't abusive in the relationship then in what way do you count as a "bad guy"?

>>715476252
You do you. My way of thinking tends to make me fantasize about walking into traffic so maybe I have no right to talk about logic...

>>715472587
This. I don't tolerate any fuckery from my bitch, she knows KNOWS that if she tried to pull some "guy best friend" horseshit; I'm gonna fuck around on her. It's been over 2 years and not once has she brought up any guy friends. She had little to no sex drove when we started and now we fuck like 4 times a week, no blowjobs at the start now she slurps my cock regularly. I don't take shit sitting down if she comes at me crooked then she's gonna get ass blasted and she knows all of this. You betas need to keep your bitches in line

>>715476722
I don't think being alone and unwanted is very alpha.. if that was true then neckbeards would be alpha malez.. think about it, does that sound right at all?

>>715476737
And what kind of girl is that? I think happiness require's a larger amount of delusion then I am capable of.

>>715475774
>I don't think I'm superior than men
>I just think their tiny man brains aren't able to fully process an emotion as complex as unconditional love
>while I admit that the ability to process such emotions is what I find most desirable
>women have less patents in their names, so I couldn't possibly believe men are less capable than me in any way

Female "logic" at its finest. Again, go fuck yourself. Just keep repeating whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess. even if it perpetuates this bullshit beleif you have about guys not being able to give you what you want. You're the only one missing out

>>715477135
Whoops. Meant believe..

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>>715477056
There it is baby

what a solid and heartfelt post i say $5 he got a lil dick tho

>>715477103
The superior. A girl that makes terrible decisions constantly but never evaluates herself and instead blames everyone else for the consequences she suffers for her actions.
You are what i teach men are hump and dump material, you have nothing to offer other than you're body. You're incredibly negative and almost guaranteed to have no physical interesting hobbies.

>>715466647
Okay, I really want to get this off my chest, so I'm just gonna reply. Fuck it.

As a female, I want to point out almost every single thing wrong with this post OP. I'm gonna get a lot of hate and be accused for attention whoring, but I don't really give a shit anymore. Let me teach you a thing or two about women.

>You treat women like they have something to offer

I don't really understand what you mean by this. Most women will 'give back' to their lover.

>You listen to their problems and neglect to point out it's all their fault

All the women I know LOVE someone that's a listener. However, I do agree with you on the other thing. When you know your girlfriend/wife is in the wrong, be honest with them.

>You "accept their flaws" instead of telling them their way of thinking is complete horseshit and they need to change

I do agree, however, not everyone is perfect. If you don't like something your girl does, talk to her about it, but in a respectable manner. Don't be an ass.

>You're ok with them having "guy friends" aka the guy they actually want to suck off

No no no no NO! Stop right there. Being jealous and paranoid like that is probably one thing women hate the most in a guy. You need to maintain trust in a relationship. Guy friends are perfectly fine to have. Don't just automatically assume having a guy friend means they're cheating/going to cheat.

>You ask permission to do things instead of TELLING them you're going to do it

It depends on what the guy wants to do. If it has something to do with her that requires consent, then of course you should ask permission. Knowing boundaries and limitations in a relationship is important.

There is a fine line between being 'alpha' and being a complete asshole. Sorry if my post is confusing/unclear, I didn't get much sleep last night. Okay, uh, probably going to run as far away as possible from this thread now.

>>715477210
Being more emotionally centered is not superiority. It's quite trivial in the grande scheme of things. I do want someone that is capable of actually loving me but it doesn't mean I can't admire someone that is not.

>>715477787
It's kind of impossible to "fuck and dump me" as I don't have sex with men on a first date rotfl. My paranioa protects me from people like you.

>>715478233
As a rule of thumb, most dudes should know chicks prudish enough to know not to fuck on a first date.

If the dude can even the first date...

>>715478354
>chicks are prudish enough

Sorry, grammar fail right there kek

>>715478354
Being prudish is a virtue in today's liberated world of single welfare mom's and hiv. :)

>>715477210
If your "love" for a woman is wrapped up in looks then it means very little as age will rip that away from her eventually.

>>715476978
loser

>>715470946
>omega detected

>>715477805
OP here, to clarify about the permission thing. I obviously don't mean anything that requires the girls consent. I mean don't ask permission to go get drunk with your friends or some shit

Also, example of why they can't have guy friends
>Be giving game lessons
>Go to mall
>Teach the demand number tactic
>Gather 11 numbers in couple hours
>8 had a boyfriend and told me later through text but said they were down
>2 told me they had boyfriends when approached but quickly changed their mind when i said "hows he going to know"? Both were down after texting
>1 was single
Those odds are not a coincidence, women are incapable of being around men without the possibility of fucking them. Girls tell themselves they can have guy friends then come up with an excuse as to why they made an exception
Proven

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>>715477847
>person A is capable of things that person B is not
>the thing that person B is not capable of is something that has been known to significantly enhance quality of life
>but person A is not superior
>because quality of life and romantic relationships are trivial matters in the grand scheme of things

At this point I don't think you even understand what you're typing. I don't want to do this anymore. Good luck with your delusions.

>>715477101
Wanting to be alone and unwanted but being wanted is alpha. You wouldn't understand such a dichotomy though. Neck beard.

>>715478608
Maybe you've been dating whores this entire time? I have plenty of guy friends that have tried to have sex with me for the past 6 years and I've not fucked any yet... granted, they are all mostly repulsive sexually.

>>715478571
I didn't mention looks a single time in my post. Stop putting words in my mouth just so you can start the argument that you really want to have.

I'm not involved

>>715478798
I appreciate your honesty about their looks. One of the exception s to letting your girl have guy friends is if they are cucks, gay, or ugly as shit

>>715469271
>few hours of sex per week

Spoken like a true beta

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>>715478607
MFW Stupid alphas don't know that their prickish behavior is what drives people away and cuck fuck betas don't know how to hold on to anything because they squeeze it to death.

you make your own rules, never forget this

>>715478608
>women are incapable of being around men without the possibility of fucking them

This is simply just not true. I'm not denying there are women that will cheat. However, just because there are a few whores out there who will cheat with guys they're around, doesn't mean EVERY women on the planet is like that way too.

Moral of the story: A few bad apples doesn't represent the rest of the batch.

>>715478798
Yeah but if any of your guy friends were actually amazing you would have tried to date them by now. I've been friends with tons of women. They all try to fuck me or make sexual advances eventually. Secret slut, crouching skank.

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>>715478975
I don't think you know the difference between a fuck buddy and a relationship.

>>715479316
Unless he's talking about how foreplay should never really stop....

>>715479154
Most of them are bad apples here idiot that's the point. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile and they know this.

>>715478739
Emotions are important to me personally as I am emotionally driven. It doesn't mean I look down on you.

>>715479413
That wasn't what I was trying to say. You're basing the entire female population off of 11 women you got numbers from. That's ridiculous and you know it.

>>715478798
> granted, they are all mostly repulsive sexually.

That's the problem. What if one of them wasn't? What's stopping you from making them feel better? Don't pull the "I have a bf" card, because it sure as hell does not work in a world where women love taboo.

>>715469271
Speaks nothing but the truth, to get simple sex it's like they make it hard mode for no reasons... sex happens after you pass through their bullshit land mines, she offers girlfriend and you go fuck it why not, 2 month go bye and the whole time you contemplate in your head is her dumbass laugh at everything I say worth it and how long and I keep up with her bullshit and pointless texting over sex... I don't have a girlfriend because girls are fucking retards that never developed personal relationship skills where guys have because guys always have friends and always make friends

>>715479202
This. In fact, women are so down to fuck someone that looks better than their boyfriend that they might as well never say that they do have a boyfriend, and it works.

>>715478860
I actually just replied to the wrong post. Whoops.

>>715478950
That's..fair I guess. But the rule should really be just "no going anywhere alone with a guy friend "Honestly I think that's a rule I subconsciously follow anyway.

>>715479543
American woman specifically then

>>715479154
Women that give themselves away when they have boyfriends. Ah! Classic examples of a whore. I won't lie, not all women are like that. It just so happens that a ridiculously large number are like that. Tell your girlfriends to stop being sluts. Seriously, it's every other one.

>>715479202
Well..I guess but that's why I see them as "friends". I'm not really friends with any guts I'd want to date as er..I have tried dating them and it didn't work out so now we just avoid each other.

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>tfw girl broke up with me cause i wasn't behaving like OP described
>tfw after one week she was begging me to take her back
>tfw no
>tfw unlimited booze, weed, vidya, hangin with bros/girls
>still got a lot more cash at the end of the month

>>715466647
Obvious Omega kissless virgin OP spotted.
Alphas dont need to go 4chan to give advice for NEET lolicon weeabo's

>>715479998
>American woman specifically then
>Still basing 11 women off of millions

Kek, Jesus Christ dude. You're still missing the fucking point.

>>715480068
>a ridiculously large number

Seriously? Alright, I'm actually starting to question if you people have ever been within a 2 ft radius of a girl.

>>715479547
I'm a Virgin at 22. Plenty of guys have tried to have sex with me but I simply don't believe in being fuck buddies and as that's what most dudes want I sit here single.
Anyway, since I've never slept around I'm pretty confident I wouldn't in a relationship either. I have some pretty stick in the mud lifestyle rules.

>>715479537
>assumes men can't be emotionally driven
>assumes men aren't capable of an emotion that she would see they absolutely are if she pulled her head out of her ass long enough to see past her own fabricated ideas of what men are and how they relate to women
>doesn't realize that looking down on someone and severely underestimating them are the same fucking thing

I don't think I'm better than you, I just think women cant comprehend logic and rational thought. I think that I'm smarter, but only because I'm a very fact-driven person. Women are at the whims of their emotion, and therefore aren't capable of coming anywhere near their male counterparts in most fields that require any sort of critical thinking

I'm using the same logic as you now. If you don't see why it's complete bullshit, then you can't be helped and I feel sorry for you.

>>715479154
He isn't implying ALL he is stating the Bell curve, MOST not ALL

>>715474240
>>715474563
fucking kek
she'll hate you forever

>>715480137
I'm the guy you guess on
The problem is relationships are about sacrifice, if you're not looking to find a middle ground you are going to end up with a bunch of ugly cuck or cute gay friends and keep getting man handled by a guy who's just riding you until he's done riding. If that's what you're looking for go ahead. But a real relationship is found in establishing friendship first. You need to find a guy you want, see if he can just be your friend, that means he respects you lol. Is willing to wait the natural course. If you want to animalistically hook up instantaneously and stoke that flame its going to die just as quickly.

>>715480578
And that is legit, but most people are just sheep following current trends. I wish I knew you lol

>>715466647
>You treat women like they have something to offer
If they didn't you wouldn't be so obsessed about getting girls

>You listen to their problems and neglect to point out it's all their fault
Subjective. Being a good listener is appreciated by everybody, and being honest when someone is right or wrong in a tactful way is nothing to be ashamed of.

>You "accept their flaws" instead of telling them their way of thinking is complete horseshit and they need to change
Everyone has flaws in reality. Trying to get someone to change is a pointless gamble anyways, change takes a lot of time and effort and ultimately it's up to the individual if they want to change. That's why people normally break up when they realize their incompatibility, rather than force someone in the relationship to change.

>You're ok with them having "guy friends" aka the guy they actually want to sick off
You seem to value confidence but you really miss the mark with this one. Even if she did cheat, you wouldn't be a broken mess, you would just break up with her and move on. Tell her she can't hang out with her guy friends and she'll grow to resent you.

>You ask permission to do things insted of TELLING them you're going to do it
Assertiveness is an attractive trait, but it's good to have the social awareness as to when you get to decide things and when you should get her input.

This is a troll thread but I know people actually believe this so here's my two cents.

>>715466647
>>715480911

Amen to this fucking post. This is EXACTLY the point I wanted to make here.

>>715480672
She is already dead anon, stop trying

>>715480672
Well that doesn't really derail my point of view at ALL as I generally agree with you? Logic is more important than emotion and does indeed make men generally superior. Congrats.

>>715481178
Holy shit you really are retarded, anon please don't reply to her, she is fucking stupid

>>715480850
I've never "hooked up" in my life!

>>715481300
Well I am just a female after all. :)
Seriously I don't get men. If we woman say we are equal all you do is explain to us why we aren't. When we agree you either A: get angry or B:become confused as to why we are not happy with that reality.

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Do this ?

>>715481178
>doesn't derail my point of view
only because you don't fully understand the words I'm saying to you.

I was never arguing for or against logic or emotion. I'm calling you a dumb fuck for not understanding that both genders are capable of both. But you're emotion-driven, so I can't blame you for being dense, right?

Fuck me.

>>715481886
>more blanket statements about the male gender in its entirety
>faults us because -some- men do the same thing to women
>still thinks she's being clever

>>715482009
So you were speaking sarcastically. I believe woman have limited cognitive ability and men have limited emotional ability. Yes there are a few exceptions but in general it's true.

>>715481886
You don't see men as equals you hold men to a higher standard than yourself

>>715466647
I don't do any of that stuff. Still forever alone

>>715466647
He's right you know. Worked for me

>>715482325
Eh just because I don't think I'm equal to men doesn't mean I don't try to better myself and work hard.

>>715466647

>what is subtlety

Yeah just pump this shit 24/7 into some sluts head like an autistic Neanderthal and exercise no decorum or subtlety and fuck picking your battles with women, fight every fucking battle you can! That'll assure you a blowjob at least.

Fucking faggots neglects to mention that while technically true, it takes practice to be able to utilize it to get fucked. You can't just fucking force it like a retard trying to push a sofa through a doorway.

Fucking dipshit faggots, anyone can read that 35 dollar e-book titled "wives hate her! One girl shows you one simple trick to fuck any girl ever!"

>>715482647
No you don't you've gotten tons of solutions to your guy problem on this thread and it's been criticized or ignored. You're a classic stereotype of a woman. You're perfect and everyone else is wrong

>>715482890
I don't think I'm perfect. You are putting words in my mouth. For fucks sake you can't actually be down on yourself as that is just "fishing".

>>715478487
Well, if she has a kid and HIV/AIDS, she's in trouble... Being prudish or even promiscuous would be the least of her problems.

>>715478608
Another rule of thumb, a girl will say anything to get you to go away. One of the more common responses is... "Uhm, I have a boyfriend" when she doesn't. Now, you're not an asshole and aren't going to prod her any further than that. You can be a little more assertive and ask >"How's he going to?" and MAYBE you'll get a number. But chances are she'll stick to her story so you can go away.

>>715478798
>I have plenty of guy friends that have tried to have sex with me for the past 6 years and I've not fucked any yet... granted, they are all mostly repulsive sexually.

Define "try to have sex with [you]"? There's female friends I've had that I've asked out on dates, but never actually tried to fuck. Like... what do they do? Like the most "sexual" things I've ever done with anyone is play with a friend's boobs and smack another friend's ass. Both of them let me, but still no date... Hmmmmm.

Also lol repulsive sexually. Are they like the fedora neckbeard faglords you see in cringebreads?

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THE REAL REASON ANON HAS NO GF
1. high standards
2. autism
3. not fit
4. unattractive

Autism: a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people and in using language and abstract concepts.

>>715482214
This is why I think you're perpetuating your own self-destructive views on men and what you should expect from them. No guy who has any sort of respect for himself would put up with your nonsensical bullshit once the contradictions and obviously pessimistic views on people(including yourself) start spewing out of your idiot mouth. He would see you as weak. Not as a candidate for an enjoyable relationship, but rather as a childish twat who needs babysitting in between fucks because her feeble mind and broken ego can't allow her envision a reality where a guy would like you for anything but what's in your pants

Its sad really

>>715483257
I have a few extremely obese friends and a few drug addicts. By try I mean they try to feel me up and I move away. I guess I don't know if they'd go the whole way but I feel if let things in the past just happen id be a very disssatisfied girl by now. :b

>>715483495
That's probably true. But still I've rarely seen a guy in a relationship with a girl that does much else but complain about her and mock her when she's not around. Forgive me for getting the "wrong" idea. -_-

>>715483578
The difference between that and now?

>>715483820
No regrets or stds! :D

>>715483961
So you aren't dissatisfied?

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>>715484175
I may be but I don't hate myself as much as I could. #win

>>715479154
Most women I know are pretty devoted to their man unless their man fucks up. A former co-worker of mine was kinda like "WTF!?" when her bf decided to move back to shithole Detroit on a fucking whim from the less shitty Memphis without her. Oddly enough they're still together and IDK why. If that's not devotion, i dunno what is.

>>715479202
Ehhh, that's not always true. They may look hot, but they probably have shit personalities.

>>715483578
Ahh sounds like gross-ass cheese dust neckbeards and toothless drug-addled losers. I'm sorry you gotta deal with dudes like that.

So that's fair. I'm not about to let the female equivalents anywhere near my junk or ass either.

I'll be honest, I'm more of a husky dude. Think flabby like Andy Dwyer or Seth Rogen. Hah. Another girl I know when she hugged me said "You're so soft, I'm friends with so many skinny and fit people, you're a nice change of pace."

So i'm curious why I'm not terribly popular with chicks. Probably because I rarely say anything to them kek

>>715484395
On the right track, keep doing that cuh

>>715483961
Oh man! That's definitely a bonus. My personal rule since I'm still a virgin is fuck someone who I at least care about.

And to use a rubber.

they are mostly like that but I'm the crazy awkward cat lady so alas my friendship choices are limited !

>>715484657
Solid

>>715484657
Sucks to not have found someone you love to fuck you, good luck scrub

>>715484657
I got herpes while wearing a condom. Tread lightly

>>715484501
A lot of guys I've been out with can't handle the fact that Im not going to have sex asap. I think op is that type of guy then wonders how he ended up with whores so often.

>>715485092
He def isn't if you haven't read the thread but rationalize it however you want

>>715484501
Husky is fine. As long as you can climb a ladder you're OK.

>>715483801
>rarely see a guy with a girl who doesn't complain and talk shit behind her back
>rarely
>meaning it does happen
>meaning men must be capable of loving without conditions
>meaning you just completely disregarded the entire foundation of your argument


Don't expect the good guys to give a shit about you when you treat them like bad guys. Don't expect them to play along with your bullshit beliefs that you base on EXTREMELY limited personal experience either--that's assuming you were the one saying you were a 22yo virgin to another anon. You don't know dick about men. I'm not sure you know dick about women either

>>715483257
>A woman will say anything to get you to go away
You will grasp at anything to not admit you're wrong, I'm glad you have guy troubles, you deserve it. You're right and everyone's wrong. I lay down hardcore evidence that i use to make my business successful and you blow it off. Girls like you remind me why i have the hump and dump lesson

>>715485354
Mind giving us another lesson. /b/ro

>>715485195
Well he seems to think it's inevitable that a girl will cheat of she has guy friends. This implies he's dated that type of girl all too often and now has come up with a long list of things to keep his girlfriend on a short leash. If the girls he dated were the upstanding and devoted type he wouldn't even need to devise such a list.

>>715485456
What issue are you having?

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>>715473397

>>715485549
I offer a loyalty service too actually!
Why am i able to get every girl to cheat? Explain. Are all girls whores except you? Are you just better than everyone else? Or are you going to admit that the human brain is wired a certain way and i can play it like a violin and no one is special?

>>715485298
Yes they do exist but setting your hopes on rarities is just a good way to end up disappointed it's not like I broadcast my depressing thiughts to people I meet in real life.. I just silently watch them price me right. I am indeed the 22 year old Virgin.

>>715485011
Well you don't have to love anyone to fuck them. I care a lot about many of my female friends and I also find them attractive. Like if any of them got hurt, well shit, I'll be there for them if no one else will be. I'll bring them soup or whatever.

>>715485045
Rubbers are only 88% to 98% effective when put on correctly. Granted, I wouldn't trust my life to a rubber, but chances of getting a VD are less. Also I can't remember if it's straight rubber or polyurethane that doesn't protect against VDs...

>>715485092
I've only ever been on one date but I'm wise enough to know most girls, at least the girls worth dating long term, will not put out on the first date. Maybe later down the line after a few dates, but not on the first. Nooo. Maybe a small kiss, like on the cheek, but not on the guys' dick.

>>715485282
Woohoo! I've certainly got the dad bod going on and if that doesn't get you giddy I got a happy trail too lol.

>>715485354
Well, for starters I'm >>715483257 and I'm a dude. I've had my fair share of asking girls out I knew personally and warmly and they all gave me the same shit. They're seeing someone when spoilers, they weren't. It's not until MONTHS later I see they're actually dating someone. It bummed me out, but who cares. It's happened to me enough and I've heard and read from women to know that it's a defense mechanism against creeps or asshole PUA types. Giving out numbers is easy, just ignore the call or delete the text. In the world of smart phones and shit, it's piss easy to block numbers, you faggot.

Just take the rejection at face value and move the fuck on with your life. Jesus.

>>715486099
Bro don't listen to anything this chick says. Listen to my advice or you WILL stay a virgin or end up with an abusive girl i promise. These girls tell you what they wish they wanted but in reality it's not what they want that's why the girls you meet all fuck assholes. Don't let her poison you with her principles she doesn't even live by or you will surely fail

>>715486069
If the majority of women you've dated would cheat the minute you loosened you tight leash it tells me you have dated nothing but sluts and continue to date sluts. If you'd date women that have self respect and honor by themselves you wouldn't need to be a controlling dick head.

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>You treat women like they have something to offer
Agreed. Doesn't make sense to have any relationship with a person who has NOTHING to offer. I point that out to every female that comes my way. #MGTOW

I see "alphas" everyday at work, for domestic abuse cases, child abuse cases etc. Even their bad boy loving wives. Don't be a complete push over, but it doesn't mean you gotta be a complete dick...

>>715472587
>nice guy
You guys need to stop referring to these people as nice guys though.

They're the same as other guys except they have a self-esteem so low they'll never speak their mind or pursue what they want.
Especially when it comes to women, who are some enigmatic being from another world to them. They're sitting around hovering like a potential stalker and hoping she'll spontaneously push them down, pull out their dicks and just start sucking.
Then when the chick has a sexlife or doesn't turn them down hard enough they might turn into actual stalkers and go fucking mental.

Then to explain all of this to themselves, they don't work on their esteem and just interacting with people or understanding their needs, they instead hang around places like /b/ and reddit/mra and spend years refining political manifestos that blame everything but themselves.
This leads to them calling the people they envy, who aren't maladjusted, "assholes" while they're "too nice." It's reflexive displaced anger.

>>715486099
Prove* god dammit

>>715486333
I know what rejection looks like i teach that too numb nuts.
I've gotten a fake number THAT is a rejection. But if i text them and they blow me later, that isn't rejection. Maybe there's 2 definitions of rejection and i wasn't informed

>>715486336
I'm not giving him any advice you illiterate moron.

>>715486614
>It's reflexive displaced anger.
Hell I wouldn't even call it that anymore. This is a bona fide narcissistic wound.

>>715486387
As far as i know i haven't been cheated on since someone taught me what i teach now. Maybe because I'm right

>>715486736
Wait are you the chick?

>>715486614
The only reason i call them "nice guys" is because it is what resonates with most people, another one of those psychological things

>>715486878
And you think that it works? You have nothing to compare it to holy shit. And why on earth do you talk as if every female is a wonton slit if in your experience. .they haven't been?

>>715487089
I guess so eh. I get you, just making a commentary on it.

>>715486954
Yes ffs (chick here)

>>715482818
Subtlety will set you up to fail. You must be blatant, you must know what you want, you must let her know exactly what you want or you will go elsewhere

>>715486614

I have self-esteem issues too and trouble pursuing/expressing my wants when it comes to women. But it's kinda irresponsible to think everyone who has self-esteem issues is a fucking murderous asspie. Sure there are some, but many of the folks who have self-esteem issues are pretty much normal everywhere else.

>>715486721
>But if i text them and they blow me later, that isn't rejection.

That's different. It takes two to tango, so if you text her and she doesn't reply after like two or three texts, move on. Now if she sucks your dick after you text her, then obviously that's not a rejection...

>>715487242
Because i do loyalty stuff too. If a guy doesn't believe what i say, i make a bet. I "run into" the chick, get the number, gather evidence she's willing to cheat and show the guy. I've only done it 9 times to this date but so far it's 100%

>>715487713
Well yeah i know that shit man haha it sounded like you thought them blowing me was rejection

>>715487942
That was a reading comprehension fuck up on my part. I thought you wrote "blew [you] off" which translates to me as ignoring you. So, sorry bro lol

>>715487810
I think I'm missing context. Why are you trying to prove to men that their gfs are cheaters? Are you some sort of love like p.I. ? ????

>>715487713
OP here. Why do you have self esteem issues? What makes you think you dont deserve the girl you want?

>>715485570
Eh, just got out of a long term relationship and want a bit of advice in general

>>715487713
I'm not calling them murderous. But they get pretty mental. If anything by cooking up these elaborate internet theories.
They could release all of that bullshit and live a normal life at a moment's notice. If they could just put themselves past it.
But no, women are sluts, laid back guys are assholes, they themselves are too nice, and they think their ticket is to be an actual asshole and going on some sociopathic manipulative campaign. Which everyone can see through, but they'll prowl women with equally low esteem who are open to abuse.
Honestly when you read it all back it's quite disturbing. This is their idea of romance, some demented facsimile of human emotion and sexual predation. All to get the love/attention they constantly need to be fed. It's a lobsided narcissistic wound, like I said. They don't want a real relationship any particular woman they've bonded with, they want a pussy with a life support system to cottle them.

>>715486614
This post is filled with so much scorching that I can feel the heat.I take it you read elliot Rogers actual manifesto?

>>715488067
Not so much that I don't deserve, but more like I don't think chicks like me very much, romantically or sexually. Whether it's because I think I'm husky, or it's my face, or I'm a laid back dude. Plus since I was a kid entering puberty I was always shy around girls because of random boners.

I'm kind of a goof sometimes, so that may make some panties drop, but I doubt it.

>>715488066
I teach game as a side job. Some people come just to criticize me. It's rare but it does happen, and when they do i put their criticism to the test. It's good for the other students

>>715486099
Right, you just shitpost on 4chan and constantly speak in absolutes about subjects that even you admit you're inexperienced with. You're no different than the childish little boys who come on here to say all women are whores because it's in their nature. Grasping at the only possibility you can conceive because you've spent so much time inside your echo chamber repeating your chant:
"They don't love me because they can't love me, THEY DONT LOVE ME BECAUSE THEY CANT LOVE ME"


There's nothing wrong with avoiding opportunities because there's a risk involved. Hell, we would be just fine if we never invented planes or cars or anything else that kills us from time to time. We would've gotten by just fine if we never tested potentially dangerous drugs in an attempt to find cures for horrible diseases.

You don't say this shit irl because you're a coward

>>715488422
I actually normally would, since I profile people like him. But no I haven't gotten around to Elliot Rogers.

>>715488393
I think I've been the girl in that situatiom all too often . The only thing that saved me was my extrememe paranoia but only just..

>>715486336
And I'm not a virgin, you cocktard. I'm just arguing on the Internet the same as the rest of you cunts

fuck your advice

>>715487810
Probably because by the time they're coming to someone like you to "test" their gf, their relationship is already long gone.

>>715488473
Okay then. If men want a real relationship with a girl the game is the LAST thing they should be using to get it. Sure dome girls fall for it but uhm.if your girlfriend cheats on you at the drop if the hat, what's needed is not a new technique but perhaps a new girlfriend. I don't think you really understand how not worth it that kind of girl is. But hey maybe sociopathic manipulative men deserve equally morality lacking whores. Have fun with that.

>>715488393
Fair enough. But when you say mental, usually psychos kinda come to mind like that faggot edgelord Elliot Rogers.

Good thing I'm a laid back fellow, therefore an asshole kek doesn't mean I don't have my own self-esteem issues. But I don't dwell on them 24/7 like a madman, otherwise I wouldn't get anything done lmao.

>>715488492
I've seen it before and I don't blame her. She's been screwed over one too many times by guys she thought she could trust. It happens to both genders, really.

>"They don't love me because they can't love me, THEY DONT LOVE ME BECAUSE THEY CANT LOVE ME"

I've seen that too and it's not because we can't either. Sometimes, some guys really are complete shitheads and will not love you. Other times they don't know how to love you, maybe they're shy to love you. I don't know, there's a myriad of reasons why a guy can't theoretically love you.

But just because he can't, doesn't mean he's a bad person either.

>>715488592
Can't blame you for being paranoid either. Sometimes, some guys turn out to be fucking psychos when you say "no" and lo & behold you turn up dead somewhere. It's awful.

>>715488436
Your problem might just be your weight then. Not to the girl, but to YOU. Cut out soda hop onto /fit/ buy at home equipment, DO IT. It sucks for 2 weeks but after that you wont stop. After you notice a difference in just 3 months you will feel like you really can get what you want.

I've had several students who were straight trolls and by the end of their lessons they sent me pics of them with 7/10s!
They just needed to overcome one personal demon

>>715488492
Nah I don't say it in real life because it's abusive as hell to let people in on that kind of negative emotion. I do think pity is quite well in their range of emotion.

>>715488771
hahaha
My thoughts exactly (chick here)

>>715488771
>>715489433
NO they came to refute me just like you guys. SJW's in denial of the truth. people that can't listen will never find happiness. hopefully you 2 are young so you can still have the chance to change

>>715489193
I used to swim a lot in college (maybe over 1000yds, my personal goal was 1200yds, 4x a week) and I trimmed down a quite bit. Though since I was a poorfag in college too, the soda/caloric intake was pretty low, like maybe once a few weeks. However, even then I was still unhappy with the slimmer body. I wasn't toned or ripped or anything like that at all but I was still painfully shy. Like no matter what, people who knew me would say "Anon! You've slimmed down! How'd you do it!?" But I'd look in the mirror and I'd still see the husky 10-year-old I used to be.

>>715489606
SJW's huh?

>>715489302
You should probably say it more when talking to guys who like--once you move past this idea that they would just bail say whatever makes you drops your pants faster. I think you'd be surprised at how many guys would put up with your baggage for months or even years without seeing so much as a single titty

>>715489433
You kinda sound like the guys who make a pass at my chick. She tells me about it and we laugh at you.
Funniest one was a lesbian though. She was staying at my girl's place cause surprise, she was derailed.
Was religiously convinced my gf was more interested in her and informed me with a heavy heart that my relationship was probably going to die because of it.
That's the night my gf kicked her out.

>>715489193
>>715489753

And like i said in a previous post here, my body's more like Andy Dwyer or Seth Rogen. Total dad bod kek. At least I got some hella broad shoulders so that's nice.

So I think my problem is completely mental. I've had other women I'm friends with tell me I'm certainly *not* bad looking. Besides, having female friends tells me I'm not completely fucking hopeless.

>>715488492
Well I have very low opinion of myself over all (this is even compared to other women ) but I've gotten to the place where I don't believe a guy when he does act interested as in my experiance it's generally been a farce to sleep with me.
So yeah maybe I am unlovable. But their intentions to begin with have nothing to do with me. If you look at a girl and all you see is a sex object to start, chances are her personality wont matter anyway.

>>715489606
Um I have never witnessed a successful relationship where either partner treats the other like garbage with no worth. I don't think you have either.

>>715489948
I don't believe in unloading my emotional garbage on people in reality. It's abusive to manipulate someone into a relationship with pity.

Tolerate no shit. Life changes significantly after getting older. I am in my early 30s and I knew dudes who followed the advise of the OP and got the relationships they wanted and made the wonderful mistake of getting married. Now here, 6-8 years later they have no power over their wives. It doesn't matter how alpha the dude acts. She has all of the power and he has very little. If she is really pissed off she just has to hit the divorce hammer and their assets become her assets and his income becomes her income.

You won't be strong forever. Just because you win the battles won't mean you win the war.


Women also change after hitting a certain age. They are much more worried about being alone or being replaced by a younger woman. When they are 20s and they have all the market power they can fuck around but past some point in their 30s they end up changing their behavior drastically.

>>715489753
There it is. You need to overcome that, it isn't real. If people were saying it to you, then it was a real change. You need to keep reminding yourself your self doubt is all in your head (which it is). Eeasier said than done but it really is just one thing and it is possible to overcome.
You deserve that good sexy loyal girl, your really do. And you need to get out there and fucking take it. Anyone can do it.
You already recognize the problem and you're willing to listen and change and that is the hardest part and you're already done with it

>>715490424
I'll admit that I've met some girls and my first thought is to fuck them. But then I talk to them more and more which leads to a couple of things. Either, I don't want to fuck them anymore because how can I fuck someone I don't want to cuddle with after sex because they're some trait i find unattractive? Or I want to fuck them even MORE because they're just that awesome of a person.

And to be fair, I've also had the inverse. I meet a girl who I really have no interest to begin with. However I talk to them more and more over the course of a few days, weeks, months and next thing I know I'm smitten and I wanna fuck their brains out.

So personality definitely matters. I'm sorry you've met some real scumbags though, I'm sure you're lovable. But sometimes it takes time to find the right dude.

I'm feeling the same way with girls at the moment.

>>715490845
I should probably include don't get married then. Good shit right there

>>715491343
Op?

>>715490659
Except you wouldn't be manipulating him, you would be making him aware of your deeply-seated trust issues with men. You would be letting him know that you aren't okay with the whole "We'll just fuck eachother until we realize we aren't a good match for eachother" routine.

There's nothing wrong with wanting more than a fuck buddy and telling a guy that he needs to prove he's capable of giving a shit about you when sex isn't involved isn't manipulation. To manipulate someone is to coerce somebody into doing something they don't really want to do. If he gives a shit about you, he'll want to disprove your pessimistic bullshit more than he'll want to fuck you. Only barely, but he will.

>>715491770
Yep I'm still here

>>715491027
Easier said than done for sure. Somebody in another joint once asked me which would be easier to deal with, crippling loneliness or the pain of rejection?

Well, I've never let being single get to me too much. It has, I won't lie, I've cried because I've been lonely as fuck. But 9 times outta 10, being by myself ain't shit. I can go do shit without having to consult anyone. Plus, being a virgin also sucks. Having hugged and felt up a few of my female friends who were open to it, I can safely say they feel nice. Cuddling is fun af, no lie.

However, I've had a hard time dealing with rejection. Some rejections were easier than others to deal with. Sure some of them tore me up. But others weren't so bad since at least the women who let me down were honest with me. That's all I ask, from women if they reject me, it makes it easier.

And also finding more women is hard for me too since I'm a natural introvert. Too much human interaction wears me down pretty quick. Though one-on-one with someone I know is great, especially if it's a girl.

Ultimately, I made my choice of shit to deal with/learn to handle better, rejection. Now I need to figure out how to meet more women without exhausting my brain.

>>715491343

Marriage nullifies a lot of power and game. Especially if these dudes are the alpha workaholic money chaser types. Some of the married guys I know were making $120,000 a year starting like 4 years into the marriage. After a good 6-7 years of that income she divorced him. The dude now has the same job but after taxes and alimony lives in a tiny studio apartment. Child Support + Alimony is like $4500 per month and she got the house.

When you are young women have so much leverage over you in the marketplace. With minimal effort they can out perform 30% of women their age (and likely 90% of women across the board). You are disposable because they can easily replace you with another dude.

Something happens for women in their 30s. And that is that they now have to compete against women who are still in their 20s. Usually just floating through life won't work unless she has amazing DNA. She will need to watch what she eats, she will need a fitness regime that is mostly not bullshit, She will have to have her hair/skin/nails on point. She will have to wear clothes that make her look well. This gives her a fighting chance at going against women in their 20s.

Just remember. Women in their 20s do not complain that women in their 30s are taking their men away from them. A lot of women I know in their 30s are pissed that the men they want all ways younger women. Very few of these women have figured out that they need to now spend about 5-6 hours a week on fitness, quit drinking, dress better, and put far more effort than they did a decade ago.

Women in their 50s who divorce thinking they get to be free women and do the boyfriend thing are by far the most depressed about it. They think life will be like their 20s before they were married and dudes wanted to fuck them. Turns out that dudes don't want to fuck them and they get a shitload of attention from men int heir late 60s who are looking for women to take care of them.

>>715491777
Pretty much all of this, >>715490659.

If you don't tell him what you're feeling/thinking about being FWBs or if you'd like to actually date and not just fuck, let 'em know. I may never have had a gf myself, but I know that if you're being honest with me, we won't have any issues. If you're honest, when it rains it'll drizzle if the guy is a normal person.

>>715474288
You don't date men because you have nothing to offer a man.

>>715491993


Don't worry too much. Take care of yourself and be happy being by yourself. Make a point to do things for yourself that you like. IF you have the extra income, instead of spending it on women spend it on yourself. Get yourself a massage from a hot chick. Like find a spa where hot women work at and get a 2 hour long massage from one. If you need help being close to people sign up for cuddle parties. Stop thinking you need to go out and find someone to do things for you that there are far easier ways to get.

>>715492505
Not true..they seem quite enthuisiastic about my body.-.-

>>715493058


Your body is temporary and when you lose your power there will be a young group of women who take your place that you will be competing with.

>>715491777
Well I mean I do put it out there that I am not into being fuck buddies. I just don't talk about my trust issues.

>>715491993
I'm going to be honest, i had the same problem as you. I could NOT handle rejection. It felt like there was a rock in my throat, i got shakey, all that. When my teacher started me, he made me go to a public place and hit on every. Single. Girl i found attractive. I got rejected like 20 times that day. It was fucking horrible.
The next week he made me do it again and after several rejections i went to buffalo wild wings with one! I didn't have the fear of rejection anymore and somehow girls noticed i had no fear and were attracted to that. It worked dude, you can desensitize yourself to rejection and suddenly you'll be rejected way less.
Another thing, go for the 7-10s don't settle, it speeds the process up, i was so scared of the 10s but i fucking went for it anyways. Eventually i felt like i deserved the 10s and they could tell

>>715493481
Yew I know. Men only care about our bodies which are fleeting WHICH IS WHY I DON'T BOTHER DATING MEN AT ALL. Who wants to invest your emotions into a guy this only going to grow to resent being with you when you start to look less young? No thanks. That's fucking soul destroying.

>>715493740
Yeah*

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Exhibit A. Young, hot college student circa 2005.

>>715493058
Thinking men only care about your body? You kinda just proved half the shit people have been saying.

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Still 2005. Still young and hot. Despite not doing much she easily beats most women who are in their 30s and 40s.

>>715494010
Hahahaha. For ducks sake. Men back that up by themselves!

>>715492878
>Don't worry too much. Take care of yourself and be happy being by yourself.

Oh yeah, for sure. When I go get myself a cheesesteak that shit's for me because it makes me happy to eat delicious food. When I go to SDCC (#humblebrag) I do it because that shit's like Christmas to me and I enjoy it (the only time I can actually deal with crowds). I have my ways to cope with loneliness and whatnot.

Though a massage from a hot chick sounds pretty great... May need to look into cuddle parties too. The only missing piece is companionship and of course sex. I know a lot of you guys recommend seeing an escort, but I don't think that would work for me. I'd need that emotional connection, not just the physical shit.

>>715493618
Yeah man, that shit's hard as fuck. I still get shakey/nervous, but once I let it all out it's pretty cathartic. It's scary but once I get their reaction I'm okay. I'm still not really sure what it means to hit on anyone, I'm still kind of a scrub...

And yeah, another buddy IRL told me the same thing "Go for the hot chicks, bro. Most guys are too chicken shit to talk to 'em."

Personally though, I like the "warm" approach, they know me and I know them already a little. It's just a question of when do I tell the girl I'm into them? I still haven't quite nailed that down...

Minor note, when dealing with 10s I've figured out to just be chill around them. Like actively crack jokes and try to be witty which sorta works, I just never went for the kill. D:

>>715492308
Holy shit. I'm writing this shit down, i have trouble advising people older than 30 since i haven't gotten there yet. Thanks man

>>715494183
Fucks* damn spellcheck

Yeah this is true

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Now here is exhibit A circa 2010-2011. Those partying years look like they have been catching up.

>>715494413
>horrible ink

Yeah, don't get tatted, ladies.

>>715494196
Your boy gave you grade A advice. 10s are impressed when you approach them and turn out to be the most receptive to advances.
Yes it is more comfortable going after the one you know already but in my experience that is most of the time a losing battle. If you don't leave your comfort zone you won't make progress. After leaving that comfort zone for awhile THEN make an attempt at the girl you know. You're going to be alot more effective.
You seem like you are already well into progress, you got this shit no problem. Whether you believe it or not.. you're in pretty good shape

>>715494237


It is actually much easier for a guy in their 30s if he likes women his own age. A lot of the guys he knows are looking for younger chicks so the competition is not as fierce. Women at this age are also far more afraid of being alone or having a dude leaving them (it sort of reinforces this idea that they are somehow broken or inferior). Women still get approached but not nearly as often as they did when they were young and not nearly by the same level of guys.

I knew chicks who a dozen years ago had guys who were in med school go after them. Turns out med students don't have much money and are not focused on being handsome and fit, but they were nice guys. They got wrecked hard.

A dozen years later and these guys are all making $150,000 per year and the women who they used to chase are completely off their radar. And these women do not have medical doctors chasing after them now. However if they went with the dudes they would have been married to a doctor by now.

>>715493559

>>715494794
>You seem like you are already well into progress, you got this shit no problem. Whether you believe it or not.. you're in pretty good shape

Aw thanks man, that means a lot to me come from Anon. :P And yeah, the homie's had more gf's than me so, he's doing something right.

The only reason I like the warm approach is because at least she knows me, will know what to expect. The only bonus is the possibility of fucking after some dates and then making it "official". But yeah, maybe I will try to do more approaches to 10s. There's a guy at work who's an ugly mofo with a weird speech impediment and he's got a gf too.

So I gotta do it at some point.

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Exhibit B. Young hot college student circa 2006-2007. Thin, sexy, lots of male attention.

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More of exhibit B.

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Here she is pushing 30 after a divorce. Thick arms, thick cheeks, thick thighs. Not a terrible looking chick. Hell, compared to most women in their late 20s she looks good. She is definitely better looking than the majority of women in their 30s. But she is not anything close to what she was a decade ago.

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Now. She has the option of getting thin, but unlike before now it will vigilance on her part. And she will be competing against women who look like she did in her early 20s.

>>715493559
You should probably mention it if you want them to have any idea of how to handle the situation.

>>715495665
Hell yeah go get that shit bro, don't wake up tomorrow and go "ehhh maybe I'll wait longer" you got this. I'm glad you listened. Most anons just complain and reject help

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Exhibit C. Young hot party chick circa 2004-2006. Would have been 20-22 here.

>>715480911
fuccin thank you for this! these poor beta faggots aren't gonna get anywhere if they keep believing shit like this. honestly makes me sad.

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Here is C again. Figure maybe she was 26 here.

>>715495665
Haha yeah see I'm tellig you I've had some fugly students send me pics of them with their 7/10s they got. Its a great thing

>>715496230
I've been steady talking to random girls I find attractive but when I went to a swimsuit model viewing I talked to some girls even taller than me, topics seem to wane though

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Around 30 now. Same woman. Ruh Roh.

>>715496638
My question is what topics and should I go all out and desensitize myself as soon as possible?