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2 Simple Questions: 1. Why did Red States fail across the board?

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2 Simple Questions:

1. Why did Red States fail across the board?

2. Why is the largest group on welfare in America whites in Red States (and not blue)?
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>>714813444
Red states are working class, Blue states have the huge ass businesses that offset the results and have the money and power to fuck everyone that isn't them.
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>blue states subsidize corn and oil
>bitch when red states call them out for their writhing masses of welfare queens
>"But we give you billions of dollars in corn and oil subs! Its exactly the same as our negros being fed like a bear at yellowstone!"

Please, end our subsidies. We will be fine. We end your welfare, your Negros starve.
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>>714814262
again, the largest group on welfare in America are whites in red states.

also, the coasts import or grow most of our food. we pay you billions in subsidies to not grow crops (because you idiots will cause another dust bowl).
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>>714813490
>live in kansas
>45k a year
>2 story 3ksq/ft house
>15 acres of land
>living comfortable
>"poor"

>live in cali
>120k a year
>600sq/ft studio
>rent
>Barely able to pay for wholefoods
>"rich"


Yea those poor red fuckers dont know what they are missing
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>>714814699
U.S. Department of Agriculture data from 2013, which administers welfare, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are Black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

Whites are 63.7 of the population
Blacks are 12.2


Theres more car crashes every year in America than space rocket explosions but being an astronaut is still a more dangerous occupation than driving. Do you know what the word "rate" means? Or do you only deal in gross numbers.
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>>714814726

don't welfare recipients make more than $45k per year?

the average home on the coast here costs $1.5 million. rent here on average is about $1500-$2000 per month.

what kind of trash would rather live in Kansas (yes I've seen pictures of your god-forsaken hellhole)? the kind of trash that lacks intellectual capacity. the kind of trash that would vote for Donald Trump.
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>>714814995
we're dealing in gross numbers here son.

the largest group on welfare in America are whites in RED STATES -- NOT blue states.

do you understand the point I'm trying to make? it's hard to communicate with red state filth.
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>>714815320
Yea, I hear your point and Im showing you and the world why its a moot point.

Whites have a lower RATE of being on welfare.

If I had 100 whites and 100 blacks, more blacks would be filthy mooches than the whites.

Gross numbers are meaningless until you normalize them.
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>>714813444
and remember these states are the most "business friendly" which is code for low wages
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>>714813444
This is fake news.
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This is 2008 data you dipshit.
Plus, if we counted the states by number or people on welfare, or percentage of total population on welfare, I bet blue states would be epicenters compared to red states.
In conclusion, this is an outdated map (by 8 years), OP is just a bitter cuck because he lost, and as always, OP is a fag.
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>>714813444
The deplorables deserve to be poor and they deserve what's coming to them with the Orange Grifter as their overlord.
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>>714815494
no. you're not grasping the point, because you're a trump-supporting baboon.

I'll put it in caps I guess.

WHY IS THE LARGEST GROUP ON WELFARE WHITES IN RED STATES -- AND NOT WHITES IN BLUE STATES?

read it slowly please my diabetic friend.

try and work with me here. dropping out and condemning higher learning has really depleted your intellectual quotient. sad.
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>>714813444
Better question is why didn't Obama do anything to help those red states?
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>>714815688
amen to that. trump's going to obliterate them. I'm going to enjoy it.
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>>714815320
Jesus, are americans really this shit at Maths. Hey anon, can you trade me 50 one dollar coins for these 100 one cent coins? Its a good deal for you because you wind up with more coins right!
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>>714815713
BECAUSE THOSE WHITES ARE ON CORPORATE WELFARE VOTED INTO LAW BY BLUE STATES

ITS CALL FARM AND OIL SUBSIDIES
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>>714815757
Obama's been giving you filth welfare. And he's been creating creating jobs for you red state trash.

Unemployment: 4.6%.

The jobs left under gw.

And now they're all going to leave under trump.

> b b b bbbb b b bb b b b b b bbb bb b b but Hillary!!!!
>bb b bb b b b bb b bb b b bbbbbbb b bbut Obamaaaaaa!!
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>>714815320
The map is a piece of shit. These is nothing telling us what those rates are per state, nor racial demographic.
We're also given a dollar figure that isn't explained in any detail. And the definition of red and blue state is completely relative. (PA-Fag that is now in a red state according to 2016 map.)
We can't argue anything and get any meaning out of if until someone posts some numbers that we can actually make a case with.
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>>714816039
Unemployement is slow but people not even looking for jobs are at an all time high

He faked the numbers.
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>>714815320
holy shit you are autistic
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>>714816037

>blaming corporate welfare on liberals

incredible. literally the only supporters of corporate welfare and tax cuts for corporations are republicans.
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>>714815757
Because their representatives continually blocked him from doing so.
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>>714813444
this map is severely out of date
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>>714816137
Tax cuts? Republicans
Corporate welfare? Dems
Learn the difference.

you subsidize oil, corn, solar, water, everything, to fake the costs and make it seem like people can afford things they cant on the shit wages they get from globalism (promoted by liberals)
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>>714816108
Oh. Obama "faked the numbers".
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>>714814262
we subsidize corn because of how much it's used in food products and animal feed.
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>>714816250
Well not him, the but Department of Labor, yes.

"If we stop counting people no longer looking for jobs and just living off our welfare, we can say the total number of unemployed is lower!"

the percentage of adult Americans working or actively looking for a job stands at 62.6 percent, the lowest level in nearly four decades.
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>>714816240
Yes, we give red states billions.

We need to stop.

And we need to take whites in red states off of welfare.

If you filth won't work, then you should literally die.

Blue states are worth trillions, because we're hard-workers.
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>>714816429
Yes, end all welfare in all states.

The red states will do just fine.
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>>714816393
Oh. Now the Department of Labor "faked the numbers".


Repubilcans have excuses for everything. This is gold.
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>>714816520
Yes. Or do you think having the lowest number of people participating in the job market means unemployment is low?

Please answer the question.
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People who are successful and comfortable with themselves don't tend to be as bitter as poor failures.
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>>714816506
red states would collapse in days without blue states. you're welfare queens. and you're certainly not smart enough to 'make it on your own', you're anti-science/anti-education/anti-intellectualism.
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>>714816678
Ok, let us collapse. End all welfare please. Just do it or are you afraid of something?
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>>714816601
I don't talk to conspiracy theorists who won't believe .gov statistics.

You've made up your own unemployment numbers. Go fuck yourself you alex jones-watching retard.
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>>714816809
Those numbers are from the department of labor you idiot lol.

Heres the .gov website you fool
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
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>>714816678
They love to talk about their "low taxes" that they can only afford because of Federal money that comes from the tax revenue from blue states.
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>>714816900
b-b-b-b-bbuuut I called you an alex jones watcher!

My moral superiority failed me!

How can the numbers prove Im wrong?!

HILLLARRRYYY YOU FAILLLED MEEEE!!!

AAAAAAA

REEEEEE
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>>714816900
still
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>>714816972
Federal tax rates are the same everywhere brah
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>>714816900
I posted the 4.6%. you said "the department of labor and US govt made up those numbers, 'cause Alex Jones!"

make up your mind, you meth-addicted monkey
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>>714817081
we're talking state taxes son. keep up or don't interject.

>>714816972
is correct.
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>>714817067
So that URL shows that unemployment is "down" only because labor participation is down.

You move the "unemployed" from one column on the spreadsheet and make the numbers look good.
Great job DOL! Epic economic recovery

At least the Dow Jones is doing well.
I thought Dems hated wallstreet?
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>>714817081
Im talking about the difference between the tax revenue from each state and the amount federal money each state gets.
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>>714817103
I actually never said Alex Jones, I dont watch him or any of those stupid shows like ancient aliens.

Read
>>714817221
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Liberal niggers on suicide watch in this thread

Numbers beating them the fuck out
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>>714817266
you denied the 4.6%.

then went on to spew some breitbart and pro-trump retardation.

communicating with red state garbage is virtually impossible. I wish some of you would at least finish high school (you also have the highest dropout rates in America).

what's so bad about intellectualism? what's so bad about science? what's so bad about education?

sad.
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Liberal Logic:
White man who gets federal subside for his job he doesnt want is just as bad as nigger who gets welfare for not even working
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>>714817437
"then went on to spew some breitbart and pro-trump retardation."

Never mentioned either of those people

You making stuff up? Cognitive dissonance much?

I am denying that the actual unemployment rate is 4.6%, since it was artificaally lowered by moving people from unemployed to "not participating". What dont you understand about that.

Please dont mention fox news or some other right wing group I havent mentioned in my response.

Just answer the question.
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>>714816039
Good Now you idiots will know how we felt over the past 8 years. Also I hope Trump and Putin come together and leave NATO in the dust.
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>>714813801
Exactly so why don't red states learn and improve?
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>>714817621
The last 8 years have been incredible economically.

What are you snowflake alt-right sjw's whining about now?
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>>714817437
Are you reading the same thread youre posting in?
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>>714813490
If a red state is under a Democratic government then we're not really practicing Republican style government, are we?
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>>714817221
Dems are Wall Street.

And your republican conspiracy theories regarding unemployment are pathetic - but entertaining. tell us again about how Sandy Hook was fake, and that Clinton has a child-sex brothel in some pizza parlor.
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>>714817221
Jesus that is how unemployment has always been measured. It keeps retired people from being counted and skewing figures, for example.
I agree it's not a great argument to use for the health of the economy but it's not a fucking Obama driven conspiracy you fuckwit.
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pol
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>>714813444
>1. Why did Red States fail across the board?
Look at which states are going bankrupt: Illinois, California, NY, Maine, Massachusetts, NJ, Maryland, Hawaii. Those are the worst. What do they have in common? They are blue, and very politically progressive.


2. Why is the largest group on welfare in America whites in Red States (and not blue)?
Corn. That's pretty much it. Past that, American cities hold the highest amount of welfare recipients. And those cities vote Democrat.

I'm not a Republican, or a Democrat. And my politics are generally liberal leaning. But it's absolutely false to imply that blue states and cities aren't the reason that our country is a welfare state.
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>>714817916
>>714817899

I literally said "not obama the DOJ"

Obama is a term used like "The white house"

when someone says "The white house signed a law today" They dont mean that a building signed a fucking law you nignog.
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Don't talk to the neo-conservative retards. Russia, Breitbart and Fox News have absolutely annihilated their fragile minds.
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>>714813444
>blue states fuck red states
>red states suffer
>"THESE REPUBLICANS OPINIONS ARE WORTHLESS, LOOK HOW POORLY THEY ARE DOING"

fucking city scum
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>>714818037
you said >>714816108

"he (Obama) faked the numbers"

>mfw you'll lie about that too, even though your own words are posted as evidence. because all conservatives lie.
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Follow the blue line nignogs
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>>714815713
>WHY IS THE LARGEST GROUP ON WELFARE WHITES IN RED STATES -- AND NOT WHITES IN BLUE STATES?
BECAUSE YOU ARE LUMPING TOGETHER TWO ARBITRARY METRICS, AND LOOKING AT UNIMPORTANT DATA, SUCH AS THE GROSS NUMBER INSTEAD OF THE RATE.
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>>714818270
Please read
>>714816393
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>>714817864
each state has its own laws. do you not understand how states' laws and states' rights work?

you're probably very young. but it's important to learn very basic civics.
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>>714818371
BEAT THE FUCK OUT!
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>>714813444
There are many farmers and workers there, they did usually do same jobs that many immigrants do for much less pay.
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>>714815757
Why hasn't
George Bush
or Bill Clinton
Or Bush Sr
or Regan
or Carter
or Ford
or Nixon
The red states has been poor for way longer than obama has been president
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>>714818335
Can a democrat please defend these numbers from the Department of Labor?
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>>714818402
You do not understand how federal policies might have a little sway over what happens in the individual states? Maybe a little?
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>>714818355
you're still not understanding the question. but people like you are why we have trump.
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>>714816039
>Unemployment: 4.6%.
>current year
>not looking at U-6 unemployment
9.3%. And the jobs created in the last 8 years have been primarily part-time shit-tier jobs. Thanks Obama!
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>>714817615
>>714818528
These people will never get a response because the democrats have no response past "BUT TRUMP!"
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>>714818560
nope

state law trumps federal law

eg: the states that legalized marijuana (marijuana is illegal, federally)

you need to go to school (100% serious).
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>>714816520

> "I never had to take statistics to get my art degree": The post
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>show up after worst recession in history
>enact ridiculous policies
>natural economic cycle kicks in and recovery begins in spite of horrendous policies and off the charts spending
>"hey guys look how good i did"
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>>714818685
> bb b b bb b b b b bbbb b b b bb bb b b b b but Hillaryyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

>b b b b b bbbb bb b bbb bb b b bb b b b bb bbb b b bbut Obamaaaaaaaaaaa!

you're geniuses. what can I say.
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>>714818694
The irony of this post is palpable.

The marijuana thing is not true.

Its still illegal in those states. If a federal agent (DEA) decided to he could arrest them. Obama has told the DEA to stand down in those states.

Executive branch controls enforcement of laws (IE decided not to enforce emigration laws). They remain illegal but no one will arrest you for them. Make sense?
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The amount of autistic shitlords in this thread is off the fucking charts
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>>714818528
Theres no link to anything to the graph I can make a graph like this, it doesnt mean anything until theres a major organization behind it
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>>714818842
Please respond to the questions in those posts.
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>>714818694
So explain why anyone would give a flying fuck about who becomes president if states are essentially immune to federal mandates.
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>>714818694

are you actually retarded, or did you just drop out of high school before you took civics?
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>>714818862
I wouldnt expect a liberal to read.

Heres the links from earlier.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Explain
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>>714818819
Republicans start recessions.

Democrats end them.

Economically we're always - always better under a Democrat President. Fact.

And modern recession? Started by republicans.

We'll it again under trump. He'll crash the economy. Democrats will recover it.
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>>714818694
not on drug policy

states can not nullify federal law

please take your own advice.

if weed is legalized you can still be charged with a fexeral crime
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>>714813444
>ND here

We didn't exactly "fail".... We just have a lot of Indians, and Indians suck off the government... Remove the Indians from the equation, and we'd spring up to a national average...

However, our state would still be pretty poor, mainly because wages are fucking bullshit here... $30k/yr is a pretty decent job, $40k is where most 2-yr degree jobs end up in about 10 years... Myself, I've yet to break $30k/yr...
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>>714818885
what posts?

are you going to start blaming Hillary again, or are you going to try and stay ON TOPIC FOR ONCE?
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>>714818694
someone flunked politics 101
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>>714818998
KEK right...

because the liberals are the undereducated ones *wink*

:D

>demographically, look at who voted for trump. poor, uneducated whites in red states.
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>>714819148
Ive never mentioned hillary.
That was someone else

please answer the questions in
>>714818528
>>714817615

Heres the links to the data for >>714818528
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Let me know what else you need!

Love to hear a response from you.
Please note I didnt mention any republican or democrat at all. Just data.
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>>714819250
I noticed you changed the topic.
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>>714818570
I'm not the same anon. But it seems like you're the one not understanding the point. In economics, rates are much more meaningful than gross amounts. In almost every case.

For instance, we can look at the total debt plus the total obligations of a state, versus their income, to judge the financial shape it is in. If we did so, as a gross total, California would be in the worst shape. Except that doesn't account for the enormous population of CA. If you split that debt among the citizens of CA (per capita debt & obligations vs revenue), you'll see that CA is still in shitty shape, but Illinois is far worse. And in any case, if you compare red states vs blue states in this manner (which is the only meaningful way in which to compare different states) you'll see that red states are generally in better shape.
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>>714818335
>>714818998
These three graphs don't match up even taking into account that the first one is probably older.
Also, you said something about reading? Where on that picture/post would I have seen a link to it?
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>>714819075
>recovery is debt that is literally higher than the planet's combined GDP

I feel saved, lord!
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>>714819308
You will literally never get an answer. Youve backed them into a corner.
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>>714819129
oh now you're blaming the 1% of North Dakota that's not white. for white red state failure.

kinda like you blame democrats for everything -- when republicans are the ones who destroyed America.

gotcha.
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Oh god it's happened... This site has indeed become a haven for liberal douchebags...
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>>714815180
>don't welfare recipients make more than $45k per year

somebody never stopped eating the lead paint.
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>>714819308

>denies .gov data
>then posts .gov data as evidence

srsly
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>>714819547
we came in vast numbers. we're going to cull you trump-supporting retards.
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>>714818694
>eg: the states that legalized marijuana (marijuana is illegal, federally)
Wow, no... it is illegal federally, and unenforced on a federal level only within those states. Trump could reverse that policy through an executive order and start sending in the FBI to arrest people distributing marijuana within states where it is legal.

Stop pretending to understand the law, you just don't.
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>>714815688
yeah but I was kinda counting on medicare and social security when I retired.
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>>714819555
I don't know how much you welfare filth make.

I just wish you'd get jobs.
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>>714819394
It was earlier in the thread.
Picture says
"unemplyoment = ~5%"
"pariticpation = 62% (or 48% unparticipation)"

DOL sites says
"unemplyoment = 5.0%"
"pariticpation = 62.7% (or 47% unparticipation)"

They match perfectly.
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>>714819770
ok and what do you tell people who work at wal mart and that is the only accessible job in their area? also because the work at walmart they barley make enough to keep a roof over their head so they can not move?
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>>714819627
Please see >>714818335
backed up with data from DOL

explained
>>714819805
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>>714815180
>the kind of trash that lacks intellectual capacity. the kind of trash that would vote for Donald Trump.

that'll get them to switch votes next time
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>>714819729
>unenforced on a federal level

BINGO retard. on paper "illegal". but no federal agent will arrest me for smoking weed in Colorado (I've blown weed smoke in an FBI Officer's face in Denver).
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>>714819698
You think you're accomplishing something but really we're just laughing at you. Please, do continue.
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>>714815915
sez the guy who thinks one poster is a representative sample of a nation's population. Yurp socialist education fail.
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>>714819250
>demographically, look at who voted for trump. poor, uneducated whites in red states.
Nah, Trump voters were more likely to not have a college degree (by a small margin) but were more likely to be middle or upper-middle class (by a large margin)
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>>714819768
unless you're over 50, there's no way in hell you'll ever see a dime of social security as it currently stands.
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Working class white Americans are voting against their own interests because they're being told that their poverty is a result of non-whites.

Meanwhile, the people who actually benefit from Republican policy are laughing their way to the bank.
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>>714813444
Don't worry, Hillary is leading in the polls
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>>714819899
I don't want them to switch votes. I want them to die. They're cancer. Tumors. What do we do with cancer or tumors? cut them out.

They feel the same way about blue state success.

This country has never been more divided. Frankly I'm surprised there haven't been violent exchanges yet.
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>>714818842
>furries ruin everything
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>>714813444
So fake op but nice try. We all know Cal and NY is welfare states.
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>>714819914
No you haven't
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>>714819891
Youll never get a response
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>>714820053
I benefit from both republican and democratic policy.

I'm laughing my way to the bank. Look at what Trump's done so far for the stock market. The retards that voted for him haven't even begun to feel the trickle-down fuckery yet. I can't wait for the tears.
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>>714819914
>on paper "illegal".
Our law is all on paper, you fucking colossal retard.

>but no federal agent will arrest me for smoking weed in Colorado (I've blown weed smoke in an FBI Officer's face in Denver).
I wouldn't count on it. He could have arrested you for it. And the policies of non-enforcement are easily changed, with no litigation whatsoever. Federally, marijuana is technically completely illegal. And technicality, in the law, is all that matters.
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>>714813444
Does this consider what the taxes go to? You know not all tax goes to social welfare.
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>>714814726
>whole foods
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>>714819914

>I've blown weed smoke in an FBI Officer's face in Denver
>trying this hard
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>>714820361
We told him but hes too dense
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>>714820122
Says the naive radicalized pseudo-intellectual.
Embarrassing.
Turn off the comedy shows pretending to report on the news and learn to think for yourself.
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>>714819914
And this is why I didnt vote for Trump but will next election
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>>714820327
Lol @ "you fucking colossal retard"
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>>714819413
When 99% of an entire demographic acts a certain way, it drags numbers a certain way...

Further, I continued the conversation noting our very low wage rates, which also contributes to our welfare status...

And the low wage isn't really a failure, it's just that most jobs here are unskilled/agricultural, and the current market on those jobs demands very low wages...
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Hillary voters.
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>>714820440
Good to know that OP is just baiting with bullshit as always.
He would serve more good staring at a pineapple.
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>>714819770
"i don't know what i'm talking about. i just like to flap my lips".

FIFY dipshit.
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>>714820033
>ACLU
>UNCF
>NAACP
>More gov't and private programs than you can shake a stick at

>mfw: "institutional racism"
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>>714813490
Do wonder you lost with your fake news
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>>714820122
There fucking have been... For the past few years now, we've seen leftist-washed people killing symbols of rightist policy; BLM vs. Police!!

And that's just ONE battlefield, I won't even START on the whole DAPL shit-show....

And if you want us gone so much, just say the word, and we'll withdraw our agriculture and energy from your market, see exactly how long your socialist utopia lasts....
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>>714820472
AG Jeff Sessions' "Brand new war on drugs, and bringing Real Justice back!" will put TONS of people in prison (I'm absolutely fine with mass-incarceration).

I can't WAIT to see stoners go to prison. And I can't wait to see states' governors/legislators prosecuted for legalizing Marijuana.

Trump's picks are fantastic so far.
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>>714817703
Because if everyone were business owners youd have no working class. America needs both.
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>>714813444
So it was the Democrats that were the evil and greedy party of the rich the whole time?

Cognitive dissonance.
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>>714821043
oh nooooo not your agriculture and energy that we don't use, noooooooooooo

kek

but no, I hope people start shooting fascists on sight. trump-voters need to learn.
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>>714821268
Yes. Greed is good. Money is good. The myth perpetrated by the GOP/Fox News that "conservatives are richer than liberals" is something only a retard would believe.

'coastal elites' is a term for (most) liberals. 'poor white trash' is the term for (most) republicans.
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>>714817187
"sure,kid."
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>>714817864
Its under a party anon, a political party. The government is bigger and doesn't always shift much because there are more interest groups and safeguards: state constitutions, public bureaucracies, judicial groups across departments, national guard, federal reps, citizens, etc.
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>>714815320
You do know not everyone in those red states are white or republican. Most states are fairly split between political parties.
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>>714821469
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>>714817081

Yeah, but the rates are the same progressive rates everywhere, and fewer Republicans end up in the brackets that pay more.
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>>714818037
Learn to speak English niggy
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>>714821358
right from fake news sites
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>>714821757
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>>714818694
>state law trumps federal law
>responds with literally the only example
Lol those Alabama gays are fucking each others' sweet asses in Holy Matrimony
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>>714821694
not true. in most of the Midwest and virtually all of the south for example, they have vast republican majorities. guaranteed to go red in any election.

although texas indeed is pretty closely split between democrats and republicans. not a swing state yet.

florida too obviously. not blue. swing state.
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>>714821694
>Most states are fairly split between political partie
I'll have to remember that next time I'm in Mississippi
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>>714818819
>natural economic
k
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>>714821912
Fake news or not, the meme is spot-on.

Castro did more in his life to disparage blacks and gays than Trump ever could, even if given 100% power over America.
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>>714821912
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>>714813490
>>714813444
Fake news stop getting your sources from liberal biased media sites.
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>>714821469
It's always been liberal "news" outlet that have perpetuated this narrative.
This seems like liberals trying to rewrite history. AS USUAL.
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>>714819547
>this site is liberal
Jesus go to your safe sanctuary faggot
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>>714822104
i'm sure we can trust fox news, breitbart, alex jones and RT
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>>714822104
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>>714822148

you fake-news-loving fool

>>714822225
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>>714819917
I feel like this is the same conversation /pol/ said to the oldfags a few elections ago.
And oldfags are now but myth and legend
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>Live in a red state
>5 Billion dollar surplus
>Economy never really tanked for us
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>>714822225
Just as much as we can trust CNN, Huffington Post, Vox, and Unicorn Riot...

But then, what do you expect from an industry whose highest accolade is named after the man who created an empire on fake news!?
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>>714813444
Probably because the cost of living in blue states
is too high, even for someone on welfare.
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West Virginia here.

>Tons of coal, steel, and many jobs in the industry have died out or left the state
>Little opportunity
>Mental illness and drug use is outrageously rampant
>Said afflicted have no means for external support, then proceed to collect food stamps, HUD, and welfare due to lack of willingness to improve their situation
>They continue to ride on it as long as the state allows
>Living may seem cheap, but the average household wage cannot keep up with rising bills and food costs
>Taxes keep going up to "Repair the roads and benefit impoverished west virginians", yet the money is squandered on half baked plans
>Car insurance in this state is fucking outrageous, which fucks people who need to travel to work and don't have access to public transport
>Miniscule amounts of social activities
>When an opporitunity comes along to get out and go do something its half assed, or you need to save money and decide to stay home instead


tl;dr there's fucking nothing here
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>>714820122
>This country has never been more divided.
You're right, this really outshines the country's first century of existance, its civil war, the civil rights movement, Vietnam...
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>>714822225
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>>714818862
>my sides
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>>714822700

Hey, at least a bottle of pills and half a bottle of whiskey can buy all the pussy you could ever want.

It's a seriously sad situation though. I'm watching our lovely governor dismantle one of our state colleges in KY. And since the rest of the state hates Louisville for not being poor, a shithole, or both, he's only garnering more votes by doing it.
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>>714822700
I know right
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>>714822890
Liberals are all about "me, me, me"... The entire liberal mindset requires an insanely narcissistic viewpoint to begin with. In fact, it is the basis of the very first and most glaring hypocrisy of liberalism, which claims extreme selflessness in all of their policies and opinions, yet the second you start peeling pack the first layer, it's instantly apparent that the idea put forth is exceedingly selfish.
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>>714823168

and the immature leftists would look at that and not think it's pathetic their parent would allow them to act in such a manner, but giggle and pretend those kids are "so smart"
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>>714813444
Which states have more niggers? Enough said.
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>>714823225
well. you sure showed them with Trump The Conservative non-establishment, non-elitist! he'll really teach them a thing or 2!

#MAGA!
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>>714822225
Pwned noob, now go back to that bubble you live in with your drug addicted polysexual transgender feminist boyfriend
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Do liberals often do a great deal of evil? Yes. Do they mean to do it? No. They’ve been told they’re the good guys, they FEEL LIKE they’re good guys, and they’re been taught not to critically examine any evidence to the contrary because it comes from a polluted source (a non-liberal).
In a sense, they’re like people who are pouring rat poison into the punch bowl at a party while they think it’s sugar. They feel so pleased with themselves because they’re doing a good thing — and the people who’re trying to stop them? At best they don’t know any better, but more likely they’re just evil people who want everyone to have a terrible time — because of THE EVIL. It’s impossible to explain the situation to them because they start with the assumption that if you don’t want to pour the rat poison into the Kool-Aid, you must be evil, and therefore can’t be trusted. So, they live their lives inside of a feedback loop that’s nearly impossible to penetrate.
So, are liberals evil? No, they’re stupid or perhaps more accurately, close-minded, emotion-driven people with no common sense and a wholly unjustified superiority complex.
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>>714823492
>"immature leftists"
>has witnessed trump's trolls... silent on "immature righties"
>or just lies about any deficiencies amongst the right

because you can teach children. but your people are adults (with the literal minds of retards). you can't modify your brand's stark stupidity or immaturity.

>anti-science.
>anti-education
>anti-intellectualism.
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Liberals are utterly indifferent to whether the policies they advocate work or not. It’s not about actually improving people’s lives for liberals; it’s about feeling good about yourself. If a policy makes a liberal feel morally superior, whether it actually does more harm than good is completely irrelevant.
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>>714823225
>>714823492
>>714823742
(samefag)

if you were intelligent (read: objective), you could swap out 'liberal' with 'conservative' in your mindless rant, and it would equate, btw.
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>>714824310
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ITT: angry, retarded trump-loving sjw's.

abandon. /thread. the retards took it over again.
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>>714824014
>>anti-science.
>>anti-education
>>anti-intellectualism.

Nice narrative. How's that community college education treating ya? lol
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>>714824440
Annnd another butthurt report for you. Like we say to the celebrities, get out and don't let the door hit your ass on the way.
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>>714823742

All of this applies to conservatives as well. Liberals are likely to overspend trying to solve intractable problems, conservatives are likely underspend because if people didn't want to starve they should have been loved by god more.

Liberals are more likely to have crazies that think other people need to not only tolerate but celebrate their faggotry. Conservatives are more likely to have crazies that think other people need not only tolerate but actively try to fit their idea of "normal".

Liberals are more likely to have multicultural experiences and view the world as their tribe, leading them to underestimate the dangers of those with a more tribal form of though. Conservatives are more likely to have a less culturally diverse experience, and overestimate the danger of mixing with or experiencing other cultures.

People tend not to be solidly liberal or conservative, but instead somewhere in-between and vote either from habit or by feel.
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>>714824777

> atheist is a race
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>>714824030
Exactly. Its like they'd rather believe they are doing good when they actually aren't. Such as ignoring that a charity takes 60% of the money for themselves just so they can feel like they are helping the hungry etc..
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>>714813444
This makes me think about all the middle class Californians moving to Texas because things are so wonderful in California.
Seriously, everything is super-great there.
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>>714816039
The only jobs he created are in the service industry.
You can thank Obama for that low paying part-time job at McDonalds.
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>>714815180
typical commiefornian
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>>714821187
You sound like a fine human being. Kill puppies with me later? I have a nail gun.
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>>714819971
Learning to ignore facts from Trump.
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>>714813444
>Comparing the universal power of corn to feeding niggers and listening to them going "I noe how to work the sistem whiit boi"
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WTF happened?
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>>714820059
Becoming relevant again due to recounts and Russian hacking. Turns out that the polls was right just like Trump was right about the election being rigged. Only thing people missed was who the election was being rigged in favor of.
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>>714827061
lol so true
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>>714826930
>9gag
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>>714813444

The cities with populations over 200,000 ranked as the most dangerous:

Detroit, MI - Mayor Mike Duggan - DEMOCRAT
Oakland, CA - Mayor Jean Quan - DEMOCRAT
Memphis, TN - Mayor A C Wharton - DEMOCRAT
St. Louis, MO - Mayor Francis G. Slay - DEMOCRAT
Cleveland, OH - Mayor Frank G. Jackson - DEMOCRAT
Baltimore, MD - Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake - DEMOCRAT
Milwaukee, WI - Mayor Tom Barrett - DEMOCRAT
Birmingham, AL - Mayor William A. Bell - DEMOCRAT
Newark, NJ - Mayor Ras Baraka - DEMOCRAT
Kansas City, MO - Mayor Sly James - Independent (but probably a DEMOCRAT)

Top ten cities with the highest poverty rate:

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;
Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;
El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;
Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;
Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.
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>>714827137
More reliable news from our friends at CNN? lol gtfo
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>>714827378

>the thread-ender
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>>714826513

i'm american indian - choctaw. those fucks are just letting the left use them like the niggers do. for all the whining and screaming racism the left does, they are some of the biggest racists i've ever met. ones that i've met and politics comes up, they immediately assume that i'm a leftist plowboy. once they find out i'm not, i get berated for being the indian version of an uncle tom. fuck them.
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>>714827175
It's amazing how much they demonized Trump, how many fake women with sexual assault allegations came forward? Whatever happened to them. I'm guessing they were all thrown out of court.
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>>714827137
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>>714827400
More denial.
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>>714827517
Why are you upset? That they're concerned about water pollution?
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>>714827995
Your girl friend has technique, good thing as her cuck has no response.
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>>714827378
>holding a mayor responsible for a cities poverty and crime
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>>714828235
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>>714827582
While 98% is silly, most of the betting sites also had Clinton leading by significant margins. She even won the popular vote by about 3 million.
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>>714828344

You are so naive, it's sad.
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>>714828457
To be even more accurate I'm afraid you'd have to change the law in the -18- of the states that allow illegal immigrants to vote. Then of course add in all the corpses that rise from their dead slumber to vote and you'll have much different numbers.
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>>714828388
So you think they shouldn't be concerned.

Didn't Keystone have several spills in its first year of operation
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>>714828740
Do you have any sources on this
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See the big swaths of nothing (grey) and job loss (red)?

That's where the Trump supporters live.

The good paying manufacturing, resource gathering (mining, farming, logging, etc) have been either shipped overseas or replaced by automation...

While the huge spikes of job growth in big urban areas has been great, for McDonalds and Walmart - tinyurl com/jhk9zwk

So your lord and savior obombo has replaced middle class jobs with fast food work that requires being subsidized by income based housing, food stamps and medicaid.

Good job, libtards.
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>>714828521
Sure I am. I bet you don't even know what the mayor of your city has done or even paid attention to the policies in your own city. The mayor has little power in controlling most of what happens. He's mostly there for damage control and enforcing policies thru the city board.
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>>714829035
deec photoshop tho
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>>714829208
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>>714829035
fake as fak
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>>714828826
We're approaching a post-industrial economy, if we're not pretty much already one. Low skill manufacturing and resource gathering is long gone. Our comparative advantage is high technology and high skill. Which means automation and services.

The real solution is free education. Real shit like science, robotics, genetic engineering. Not gender studies and art history.
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>>714828826
http://ktla.com/2016/12/08/carrier-will-use-tax-benefits-from-trump-deal-to-fund-automation-ultimately-cutting-more-jobs/

And your lord and savior is doing the same.
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>>714813444
>Please, end our subsidies. We will be fine. We end your welfare, your Negros starve.

I'm still waiting to hear the downside to this.
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