RIP US Social security unplug grandma you won't be able

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Yet they're gonna ramp up military spending even more.

>>714749561
Except gun control was obamas entire first term, right after the Sandy Hook false flag

>>714750209
Obamas first term was 2008. Sandy hook was in December 2012.

>>714749561
[Citation needed]

>>714750209

>Sandy Hook false flag

LITERALLY kill yourself, retard.

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>>714750465
fuck off

>>714749561
he tried, real damn hard too. we had a republican controlled congress that wouldn't let it happen tho

>>714750927
This is just utter bullshit.

>>714749561
sif grandma was of any use

>>714750927
>he tried too damn hard
Do you realize the only 2 bills he actually passed were to allow people to carry guns on trains and in national parks. And the executive action? Holy fuck, UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS!! And of course it didn't pass because republicans are fucking retarded.
>inb4 universal background checks would make it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns
No. It objectively would not. This has been proven in states that have it.

This is the guy that every dipshit conservative was saying was going to severely restrict the 2nd amendment; many were saying he was actually going to find a way to abolish the 2nd amendment kek. When are you morons going to learn that you're being manipulated and that thIs is just political propaganda that republicans use EVERY FUCKING ELECTION? Never

>>714750927

Republicans are subhuman trash lower than the lowest scum and you're a drooling imbecile who supports them.

Can you just like go away? Preferably permanently? You are a cancer unto this nation.

>>714749561
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>>714751391
>>714751481
Cucks. suck a fat one, the Democrats lost. Republican won, watch in awe as America is made great again.

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>>714751481
You are a cock smoking Muslim nigger faggot

>>714751481
Democrats are just as guilty. Nobody is innocent

>>714751612
Oh... I'm sorry, you're literally retarded.

You're a very special boy, anon, and you can do anything you set your mind to. Remember, you're not disabled, but rather "differently abled"

>>714751612
yes, let's just call anyone who wants to discuss important issues cucks and tell them to get over it. It's retardards like you that make us look bad, fucking kys

>>714751612

"Great"

For the last 35 years, Republicans have completely destroyed this country and crashed the economy and the Democrats have cleaned up their gigantic messes. Republicans haven't done a SINGLE thing good or right since before REAGAN. Democrats are also responsible for the highest job growth and market closures in the last 40 years as well as every civil rights victory of the last century.

If you have EVER voted Republican, you are a traitor to every value this country ever had, as well as statistically an uneducated or racist imbecile.

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>>714751481
Oh really??? democrates are just as stupid.

>>714751719

White, educated, successful, intelligent atheist here bro. But you were close!

>>714749561
oops i voted for a fat bankrupt serial loser

>>714751741

WRONG. That false dichotomy shit is what breeds the complacency that keeps the braindead scumbag GOP getting elected when they're the most unqualified gaggle of drooling Downies the nation has ever known.

Dems aren't always a treat but they support facts, science, teachers and actual, viable economics and they aren't trying to make this country some third world Christian theocracy shithole.

>>714751821

Prove it, cocksucker. Oh wait, you can't. Because you're wrong and a retard.

>>714749561
Obama tried, several times.

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>>714751847
>>714751820
>>714751481

>>714751821
yes, democrates are just as stupid as republicanes... the problem here is that this describes the majority of either side who blindly follow their party. This portion of "blind-followers" is far more prevalent on the right side, fam

>>714751930
You honestly believe there's a difference between the two? You honestly believe there's not just self serving politicians? You're just a loud mouthed barking fool.

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Social Security is literally a ponzi scheme.

Do some research faggot

>>714752037

Never been there. I've been HERE since 2006 though, kiddo.

>>714752037
xD toplel reddt meem btfo anyone who has a valid point

>>714751719
>>714751612
How's Russia, you guys? Is shitposting about our election helping you guys make ends meet?

>>714752095
If that were true you wouldn't have said anything nice try kid

>>714752041
Meanwhile Democrats wanted Hilary in the white house because she was a woman. Both sides vote based on their halfwit emotions.

>>714752141
by responding to his post, you have confirmed that you are actually the underage redditfag

>>714752069
>Democrats; jobs, education, ecological preservation
>Republicans; can't let those fags get married, not sure it's easy enough for a kid to buy a gun, let's build a fucking wall because ladders don't fucking exist, and Americans are fighting super hard to get those fruit picking jobs.

Yeah, no difference whatsoever

kys

>>714752145
Once again, describing the blind followers. Both sides do have them. One is far more prevalent.

>>714749561
Social security is a fucking generational ponzi scheme you fucking bommernigger

Tear it all down

>>714752145
It's because she wasn't Trump. They'd have voted for anyone else.

>>714752270
Why do you Russians want to worsen our society so badly?

>>714752087
except, literally, it isn't.

Or shouldn't be, except that GOPcucks keep refusing to make everyone pay in equally. Poor people lose a significant chunk of earnings to it, the rich lose a pittance and draw more in SocSec than the poor man's salary, while contributing little more than he did. The cap's still there. If the cap was removed, SocSec would be well funded again. Had they never capped, no problems would've ever been had.

>>714752069

No, I KNOW there's a difference.

OK, so they both play to political agendas. Big fucking deal. It's what they actually DO in office and how fucking stupid they are.

>antiscience nutters
>Jesus freaks
>literal Klansmen and white supremacists
>responsible for more than 75% of the debt and 450% more deficit spending
>fake economics
>hate education
>been trying to dismantle EPA and CAA for decades
>responsible for 100% of the illegal religiontarded legislation
>voter suppression
>uneducated/homeschooled

Republican representatives have said the DUMBEST shit imaginable. Things that 7 year olds go "that's wrong." for.

Sarah Palin. George W. Bush. Michele Bachmann. Louis Gohmert. Rick Perry. Mitch McConnell. Scott Desjarlais. These "people" aren't qualified for any job that doesn't involve French fries and yet the subhumans keep elected them. They're too stupid for words and they're dangerous traitors to this nation and her values.

>>714752305
>Why do you evil conservatives want to do x?
>Because x is inefficient/ineffective
>Why are you so evil conservatives?

>>714751820
>democrats ride the coattails of economic booms created by republican policies
>"WE'RE the ones who are good for the economy"

Lee Mao

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>>714752346
>Group A pays more than group B
>Equal

>>714752375
>implying they have a better idea of what to do

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>>714750209
>right after the Sandy Hook false flag

People still believe that

>>714751962
The DNC chose Hilary Clinton as there primary?? Really the women who lies so bad it's not even funny. She was anti gay and anti abortion anti feminists.Then all of a sudden some Hero in the eyes of faggot feminists go fuck your self. Bernie sanders could have been your president but the democrates fucked him over eat a dick

>>714749561
"Unplug grandma"

Okay guys, time to shut the YLYL threads down, we have a winner.

>>714752253
>dems
>jobs.

>>714752399

you are literally brain-damaged.

>>714752087
Would have worked if we'd stop giving charity to lazy niggers and forced them to do something. Instead we used a judicial system to turn them into welfare children. It's obvious their stupid decisions are exacerbated by their situation, but it's really no one's problem but their own.

We live in a society of victims and problem children. Oh no I'm so oppressed! I'm a middle class white woman that's had everything handed to me my entire life! Oh no I'm a low class nigger who runs around selling drugs and attacking people while threatening cops! Why are they shooting at me? All I did was kill dat white wimminz!

>>714752413
They do

Don't involve government and learn not to spend all your money and save for your own retirement, faggot.

>>714752412
but... group A makes more than group B?

>>714752489
So?

>>714752420

>lies so bad

Trump lies more than any politician; more than 4 times that of Hillary. WAY TO GO RETARD!

Bernie could never have won.

>>714752550
Trump lies more than Hillary lmao
You must be retarded

>>714749561

Old people are useless, they should all be killed.

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>>714752489

Depends on how and why they do.

More often than not, it's because they prey on others and/or were born with gilded spoons up their asses.

Furthermore, why if they're already so much wealthier, are they only interested in making themselves even richer at the expense of the middle class? They're literal thieves.

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>>714749561

>RIP US Social security
>unplug grandma you won't be able to afford her anymore.
>GG America

American rednecks are slaves. That's where their name comes from. They had to work on the fields with the negro slaves. The biggest trick their owner pulled on them was making them believe it's an privilege to be a white slave in self-chosen servitude as long as it's in 'murrica.

when will all the unironic Trump worship end? Shit is worse than cancer

>>714752550
Do if Bernie sanders was up against Trump yes he would have won. It's been proven the democrates failed you and it's there fault you have Trump as new president.

>>714752253
It's almost like you're letting your emotions rule your posts again.
>concise list of things dems support
>emotional rant about some shit you heard from emotional hillary supporters

Once again, you make yourself look like a fool with your unwillingness to take both sides at their true value. You don't want a good president, you just want a Democrat. That's not how voting works, you vote based on the merit of each individual. Problem is that you had all these obnoxious dumbasses who wanted to tell half the country they're all sorts of dumbasses, racists, or sexist.

Democrats lost because everyone is sick of their holier than thou rhetoric they pour out of that shit faucet they call a brain.

Live with the grave you've dug yourself on your tirade to end hate with hate, you incompetent fool.

>>714752412
Equal can mean two things, man. Equal quantity of dollars, OR equal percentage of income.

Since SS contrib is defined as a % of income to a cap, beyond that cap, the contrib as a percentage actually declines, making it unequal, and unfair.

>>714752694
>"This plebeian is ok with getting shitty pay while wealth continues to consolidate in the top 1% of the population so why try to fix our economic problems?"

0/10 trolling to obviously intentionally retarded

>>714750209
name one bill signed by Obama that restricted your right to own firearms. just one.

>>714752457
>we used a judicial system to turn them into welfare children. It's obvious their stupid decisions are exacerbated by their situation, but it's really no one's problem but their own.

>We did it to them
> It's only their problem
> And their fault.

You can't be this stupid.

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>>714752618

It's called a fact. I know it's been a long time since right wing nut trash could identify them, but it means you're fucking wrong.

>>714749561
Yes, but the people decided. After extensive debate about ending Medicare and cuts to SSI the people spoke.
Except there was no debate about those programs - just useless idiots screaming about Clinton's email and pizza. Bit the people did speak - 2.5 million more votes cast for Clinton. Most votes ever for a Presidential candidate. The people didn't elect Trump - the crooked establishment did.

>>714752463
Sounds good, except that 'save for your own retirement' types also think bank deregulation is great, making it impossible to save for a retirement.

See also: Great Depression.

>>714750209
Kill yourself tool.

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>>714752843

>0/10 trolling to obviously intentionally retarded

Nope, that shit was a thing back during the 2012 race when Romney said that 47% of Americans are welfare recipients he doesn't care about.

>>714752772

>proven
>there

No. NONE of the moderates would have gone for an overt socialist.

>>714752803
Stop conflating Equality with Equity please.

Equality is a naturally moral aspect of modern society. Equity is an evil and greedy philosophy.

>>714752863
>we
I didn't do shit, you didn't do shit
The American people aren't the cause of their downfall. Their inability to rise above their own selfish, lazy choices is what puts them under the government's boot. They just live their because they refuse to change.

>>714751719
Wow, argument won. Bravo.

>>714749561
Dunno what the fuck your smoking, my state banned pretty much any rifle that uses a magazine.

They couldn't do a buyback because my state is broke as a joke. Debated using police force to warrant search every single home that didn't register their rifles on a national tracking registry. State gave that up too because le broke.

The democrats did horrible damage to the gun industry in New England, it sadly will never recover in this area. the effects will not be seen for another 3-5 years, while Trump is in office, and sadly trump will be blamed for it, and the media will spin it as the democrats were more pro gun.

>>714752905
Give it time. Now that the CIA's come out and said flat out that Putin hacked to get Trump elected, we may see enough Faithless electors to fix this shit storm.

>>714752795
>emotional rant about some shit you heard from emotional hillary supporters

Nigga, u 4 real? You gotta be trolling. Republicans have made their bed, and now they have to lay in it. Have you been paying attention at all? Because there has been a party fighting marriage equality, women's medical freedoms, and everybody knows which one it is despite the tiresome and incessant equivocation of braindead faggots like you. Also, didn't support hillary, nor am I democrat.

>wah! wah! educated democrats are being mean to me! wah! elitism!

>Russian pretending to be a retarded faggy american conservative the post

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>>714752942

>equity hurr durr

You DO know that the 1% have fucked this country into an income inequality that's so severe it's destabilized our entire economy, right?

Stop being a worthless retarded shill for soulless, vile billionaires.

>>714752942
FFS. Randian bullshit. 100 from a poor man is equal in all ways to 100 from a rich man...

and when the rich man takes 10K out, and the poor man takes 1K out, that's 'equal' too?

>>714749561
Have you seen the gun control in California, that just passed?
And yes he tried to pass the AWBan, after sandy hook.

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That face you make you spent months arguing with people on /b/ to support Hillary, only to have your SJW political party get their little pussies pounded by Trumps Thundercock exactly one month ago

>>714753142
oh great, these things again

>>714752457
Deplorable detected

>>714752968
You should read up on the ways 'we' did. LIke housing for soldiers after WW2 and how that skewed the property market and the middle class buy in for 25 years, leading to generational inequality.

Hint: IF you have to pay rent, you get shelter, but no long term value. IF you pay a mortgage, you get shelter AND value.

The Gov't only helped white soldiers.

>>714752936
And I'm sure the growth of the percentage of welfare recipients has nothing to do with the shrinking middle class which also has nothing to do with stagnant pay rates yet surging productivity and the republican congressmen who give themselves cost of living adjustments annually like clockwork are not being at all disingenuous when they prattle on about how raising the minimum wage would be fucking armageddon despite 9/10 nobel laureate economists all saying that it needs to happen for economy to recover from disastrous republican policy after disastrous republican policy all leading back to the mother of all republican turds, trickle down economics.

>>714753174
that face you make when you realize you're the one being "thundercock" raped

>>714752925
The great depression was caused by the federal reserve. Stop drinking the kool-aid

>>714753081
Income inequality is a vital part of a thriving economy.

>>714753154
Takes 10K out of what exactly? From whom? under what context?

>>714749561
sadly whether Trump does it or not, it's gonna happen someday anyway. Social Security as currently defined is unsustainable. People of the previous generations are getting way more money from social security than they ever paid into it. They're riding on the backs of us younger generations now and by the time we get old enough to collect, there probably won't be enough in the coffers to pay anything to us. Old folks nowadays... they're fine, it's us younger guys that gotta worry about social security breaking down.

>>714752463
LOL, accept the current generation has been paying into social security for decades and wont get any now, you're right though, those kind of "entitlements" are for try hards and libtards. You have to be fucking braindead to give up to the government something that was made for you. I now know you voted republican.

>>714753030
Which state? Sources?

>>714749561

With Der Fuhrer Trumpf and his subhuman retard brigade, you can pretty much just leave it at:

RIP America.

>>714750209
Your gun rights actually expanded under Obama tenure.

>>714749561
I think trump is just examining all those on SSI that are ripping off the system. Not touching those that paid into the system.

>>714751612
"Made great again"

Like that Carrier deal that only left 800 jobs here while 1300 still went to mexico even after Trump/Pence gave them a 7million tax break?

You are really really REALLY fucking stupid.

>>714753261
>>>714753154 (You)
>Takes 10K out of what exactly? From whom? under what context?

From social Security, the topic at hand, you troll.

>>714752694
What a pussy, proby awol

>>714753290
>This retarded system that has been sucking in money and offering little to no returns
>Lets keep feeding it instead of cutting our loses because we're too self centered to make the sacrifice other generations wouldn't

>>714753352
kid's crying for his lost future, and his enslavement to Putin.

>>714753351
I don't know where you get this idea that rich people get more out of Social Security, but I don't think anyone would agree with something like that.

>>714753261
>Income inequality is a vital part of a thriving economy.

So says 0/10 nobel prize winning economists, who definitely aren't saying literally the exact opposite. You are totally not a retard and this post says intelligent things, comrade. I understand that in Russia you're content to be sub-human trash, that doesn't value your own work enough to think your worth a living wage, Vlad, but here in America, that's a civic right.

>>714753415
You are literally retard when that you think that Russia is even a threat to the US in its current state

>>714752968

You're embarrassing yourself. If you even know how to read, you need to do some serious fact checking on that retarded load.

>>714753142
Excuse me, Russian shitposter/misinfo operative, but Americans are talking.

>>714753382

People who are concerned for their country and extremely disappointed in how fucking stupid the retarded side has become. Makes perfect sense.

>>714753415
Russia?? Putin?? Your kidding me dude really.

>>714753142
infowars get out

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>>714751481
>Republicans are subhuman trash lower than the lowest scum and you're a drooling imbecile who supports them.

Democrats have desperately been trying to insult the Republicans out of existence. Hillary spent $1.3 Billion in smear insult campaign to trump and his supporters.

Why isn't ad hominem a valid form of logical argument?

Instead of Democrats talking about the reasons why they disagree with republican values of meritocracy, the Democrats simply say 'You're dumb".

Why isn't this effective as an argument? Democrats are perplexed as to the reason this doesn't work.

>>714753448
>So says 0/10 nobel prize winning economists

Milton Friedman recieved the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences and his beliefs almost mirrored everything I have said in this thread.

You're literally pulling shit out of your ass at this point

>>714753376
You get the returns when you get older, jesus you're fucking dumb, just give me your wallet if you're willing to give up things you worked for so easily retard.

>>714752858
*crickets*

>b-... but fox news said he was gonna take mah guns! And since I hate him, I just believed it whole heartedly, and was manipulated as easily as a baby is by jingling a set of keys.

>>714753566
Why is meritocracy better than equality?

What is the difference between meritocracy and Equality?

Should everyone get paid the same regardless of their skill or contribution?

Communist party USA says Yes.

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>>714753463
>Carl the cuck
>you mean like don't understand like wow I'm not even gonna explain I'm just gonna say wow
Go feed your wife's son, it's clear you're just here to stutter and pour out that same holier than thou rhetoric you dumbasses cling to

>>714753452
They are desperate enough to launch nukes, GODDAMN some of you are not even paying attention,

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>>714753644
>You get the returns when you get older

>>714752939
>overt socialist
>OVERT

Bernie Sanders; Democratic socialist
>Democratic socialist
>DEMOCRATIC

Jesus titty-fucking Christ, stop fixating on that word like it has *no* other uses whatsoever.

>>714749561
I recieve SS check each month. I am white, i have tourettes, PTSD, and depression. I am confident my SS is here to stay as my local Wal-Mart doesn't want me calling everyone niggers and fucks as i scan their items.

>>714753566

They're fact-free, low-IQ, uneducated morons.

This is well-established.

The "educated elite" TRIED to reason with them and debate their """"meritocracy""""". They mocked us and engaged in a massive discredit/misinformation propaganda campaign instead. So fuck them. They barely qualify as humans anymore anyway. It should be legal to kill them in the streets.

>>714753702
Exactly, he feeds off of you like a leech. Good job realizing that.

>>714753702

Your photoshop-fu is weak and you're a moron.

>>714753733
They were desperate when Hillary had a chance of winning

>>714753761
>Bernie Sanders

Bernie "On the Issues" is Marxist.

People really should read books sometimes.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/Gun-Control/a/Gun-Laws-Signed-By-Obama.htm>>714753663
Backing your point anon

>>714753261
>income inequality is a vital part of a thriving economy
You realize that when people reference "income inequality", they're not talking about how unfair it is that we're not making the exact same of money, right? They're talking about things like the fact that since 1979 wages have barely budged, the top 1% has seen a 256% increase in their paychecks yet the bottom 90% has only seen 15%, ~85% of all wealth regained after 2008 has gone to the top 1%, almost 100% of every new dollar goes to the 1%... you know... that kinda shit.

Keep cuckin, bootlicker.

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>>714753846
Here you go fam

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>>714753786
Kek

>>714753840
Right, now unchecked they will continue to roll out a new-age colonialism in eastearn Europe while Trump lets it happen cause Putin "said some nice things" about him. Putin knows he's a ego-maniac and knows how to manipulate them you braindead fuckup

>>714752463
Like people did before social security?
Didn't work then either, and the consequences were horrendous. So, the gov says fine, we will help you help yourselves, by forcing you to put a minimum aside fir retirement so we don't have a country of elderly dying in the gutters. Plus we can borrow off it in the mean time,

NOT, PLUS WE CAN JUST FUCKING TAKE IT, ROB YOU OF YOUR RETIREMENT, AND KEAVE YOU FIR DEAD

>>714753789
>The "educated elite" TRIED to reason with them and debate their """"meritocracy

The mean income of Trump voters was $79K, so we doubt your insults of stupidity.

Saying Trump is a racist bigot and so are his supporters, is not an argument.

How come ad hominem is not valued as an argument style?

>>714752905
i love how Trump haters are all over this shit wanting recounts and claiming that trump never should have won, yet totally ignore the fact that Obama got reelected with less of the popular vote too. Electoral college is a wonderful thing when it's in your favor, but work of the devil when your guy loses.

>>714753452
>>714753543
Found the Russians posing as Americans

>>714753897
Might be because the richest people in the United States are also the richest people on the planet, and due to the incredibly large influence we have on global economics, they are naturally going to be a lot more wealthy than people who make their money domestically.

This is a good thing, companies are raking in money from other countries, and that naturally is going to leak into our economy. Anyone with a basic understanding of economics would realize this.

>>714752685
how are they thieves?

>>714753313
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2014/07/11/americas-largest-shotgun-maker-shifts-more-jobs-to-texas/#6f6890a01e55

http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/20141124/printedition/311219979/gun-shy-firearm-makers-anchored-to-ct

Took a few minutes to find legit sources, because liberal media refuses to show the damage it has caused. Colt is planning to leave CT, and Mossberg has already shifted production to Texas. These are companies that have been in CT for almost 100 years. Lets not forget Pratt & Whitney leaving CT.

The damage has been done.

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>>714753973
>ad hominem

>>714753972
>consequences were horrendous

Only for the retards. Maybe if they wanted to live out their old age, they would have prepped for it.

>>714753972
>PLUS WE CAN JUST FUCKING TAKE IT, ROB YOU OF YOUR RETIREMENT, AND KEAVE YOU FIR DEAD

you just described what social security is lmao

>>714753789
>They're fact-free, low-IQ, uneducated morons.

Are democrats actually smarter?
US democrat party today:
1. Muslims
2. Illegal aliens
3. Social Justice Warrior feminazis
4. Communists.
5. Anti-white negros

Your argument lacks substance. We can know these groups that loudly support the democrats and insult the republicans are non-contributors to any society in any way.

>>714753988
gee, I wonder who else talked shit about electoral votes only to back them later. Hypocrisy is on both sides, fam.

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lol Drumpfanzees your "president elect" has had a SLAVE inside Trump Tower for 8 years! He feeds her three times a day like a pet and gives her flowers once a week, probably in exchange for perverted interracial sex acts.

>>714750280
KEK. FOXnews burn.

>>714753604
http://www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-14/seven-noble-laureates-urge-increase-in-u-s-worker-minimum-wage

Sorry, what was that? Couldn't hear your appeal to one extremely wealthy person who stands to benefit from these kind of policies and thereby has a vested interest in their continuation which might compromise his objectiveness, over the sound of an enormous consensus that dwarfs his idiotic views. Also, want to go ahead and provide a source or quote of him proving that income inequality is such a GREEEEAT thing? Because only one of us is pulling shit out of our ass, Vlad. Now go collect some rocks so you've got some dinner, I hear it gets cold in Russia.

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Democrates crying in this thread because they wanted a girl president. We had a nigger why couldn't a girl be president? Fucking lols! It's so funny that Trump is president and how much butt hurt every one is.

>>714754131
Black Lives Matter fully supported welfare democrats, and killing policemen.

Why isn't this a good strategy for making America Great?

>>714754105
Well yeah, what it is now, thanks to Reagan, Bush, Bush, and Trump.

Bravo, for connecting the fucking dots.

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>>714754186

>>714754136
agreed. Is why i'm tired of hearing it from both sides. We need to just burn the whole fucking system down and start from scratch with something that actually makes sense....so much sense an inbred idiot from arkansas could understand it.

>>714754035
>naturally is going to leak into our economy
But it's not """leaking""" quite enough. And you even busted out the "anyone who knows basic economics" line kek.

Again... keep apologizing and making excuses for them like a good little goy, anon.

>>714754182
Oh wow, a bunch of nameless economists signed a dumb petition. I wonder how many economists would sign a counter-petition.

>bloomberg

not even going to read

>>714754186
>>714754224
>>714754131
Deplorables Confirmed, KYS NAZI wannabe's

>>714753846
"AHHHH! MY TINY BRAIN CAN'T APPRECIATE POLITICAL NUANCE! THEREFOR, MARXISM!"

>>714754267
>so much sense an inbred idiot from arkansas could understand it.

Are you to ignore the likes of the inbred that gets up every morning and goes to work for 40-50 hours a week, pays his taxes and abides to the laws and loves his country, but gets buttfucked by the democrats who want more taxes to pay for freebies?

Just kill yourself and reduce the carbon footprint you leave

>>714754288
>But it's not """leaking""" quite enough.

I will agree with you on this point. Unfortunately, companies have to protect their money from overzealous government regulation and taxes by storing it in accounts they can't touch.

Maybe if we had an actual free enterprise system, these companies could bring their money into the country without fear of it being stolen from them.

>>714753973
>"Defining them by their mean income is an honest way to assess them, right?"

Sure are dumb, aren't ya?

>>714754363
I see allot of republitards trying to be smart in this thread, is that progress at least?

>>714754267
I'm tired of hearing it too, fam. All this /pol/shit needs to fuck off of /b/ already tbh.

And yes, we would do much better if we could tear it down and start from scratch... really hope that will come about, but there's so many corrupt bastards at the top

>>714752936
>new mexico
> alaska
> louisian

Are you even trying? these are one of the top states that have high population density and very high crimerates, you fedora faggots claimed to be enlightened but you sure as hell are not putting enough braincells into it.

>>714749561

Obama orchestrated sandy hook and you're claiming he never came after guns? Kys.

>>714754330
>>714754363

HOW CAN THE DEMOCRATS NOT WIN? WE INSULT THE SHIT OUT OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS? WHY ISN'T IT WORKING?

MY BRAIN IS BIGGER THAN THEIRS!!!

WHY ISN'T MY LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE HELPING ME?

>>714754379
Did you seriously just get triggered by the term "inbred idiot"? wow

Look at the other points

>>714754298
"I just call all the facts that prove my dumbass views wrong 'liberal media' and somehow that makes me right! I mean, if I refuse to learn the truth, reality will magically transform from what it actually is to what I incomprehensibly believe on even the flimsiest assertion."

>>714754379
he's not getting buttfucked by the democrats you blue collar rock breaking idiot. he's getting fucked by Trump, good job voting for the guy who fooled you into thinking otherwise, that's how he got rich, taking his money from dumb fucks like you. HOLY shit you people kill me.

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>>714754330
Go fuck your self Jew nigger lol.

>>714753704

LOL @ this genuine anger. Why is it that the same side of these arguments is **always** the first to have a mental break?

Very interesting and well explains the importance of the Electoral College.
There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State.

Trump won 46 of them.

Clinton won 16.

Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 2.5 million votes.
In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton won 4 of these counties, Trump won Richmond)

Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.

The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.
When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those that encompass a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

And, this is why our forefathers created the Electoral College.

>>714754581
thanks for proving my point dipshit.

>>714754363
>>714754421

Do you have any reasons why you think it's important to take more tendies when we're already $17 trillion in debt?

Can you possibly raise any more taxes and close any more big businesses for free tendies?

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>>714754511
Keep crying faggot

No point in arguing with a self-centered amoral fag who is desperately trying to justify being a thief.

>>714754082
I hope Colt moves to Texas. That would be awsome

>>714754504
Not a liberal. And a biophysicist. Your argument is invalid.

>>714754391
>without fear of it being stolen
Yeah, they definitely need more private jets and yachts, cause everyone who's not a braindead republican knows they're not investing it back into the economy.

>maybe if we had an actual free enterprise system
Wake up, there is no such thing as "free" enterprise; it's always just more difficult for some to advance than others.

>>714754633
No point in arguing w/ a Russian troll who is trying to destroy America from the outside by spreading misinformation.

>>714751481

>crying this hard
>wearing an Uncle Sam hat and buddy holly glasses
>being this much of an embarrassing faggot

>>714754617
And you just proved why it's outdated, they could not have for-seen the type of established metropolises holding millions of people like we do today.

>>714754647
>Yeah, they definitely need more private jets and yachts

And how builds these private jets and yachts?

>they're not investing it back into the economy.

You are seriously stupid if you actually believe this and have no idea what the term "investing" means

>>714754509
>Did you seriously just get triggered by the term "inbred idiot"? wow

go fuck yourself. "Triggered" is a democrat word. Go directly to your safe space. I don't need a safe space. I can talk about issues and subjects without getting upset.

There are reasons I'm ready to discuss without being called a racist, or saying that democrats are just "pandering to the lowest life forms"

>>714752253

>dems
>education

>dems
>work

>dems
>respect

same thread different day. yes we know, we fucked up, but honestly not sure it would've been any better with the alternative tbh.

>>714754625
Our greatest period of economic growth, standard of living, social cohesion, technological development, and American exceptionalism happened when the wealthiest Americans paid a nearly 60% tax-rate and workers made enough from one full-time job to support a nuclear family. These are just plain simple facts of history.

>>714752253
>>Republicans; can't let those fags get married,

We don't care if LGBT people get married. This is a huge misunderstanding about the republican majority. We don't want unfair policies for minorities.

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And here I am just enjoying my free university, healthcare and getting money from the state.

But you can call me a liberal if that makes you feel better

>>714750026
obama is the longest wartime president in history...but hey, remember that nobel peace prize he got?

>>714754725
What system would you suggest? There's no way that the popular vote is even close to the democracy that the electoral college provides

>>714754872
>free

>>714754617
Your numbers are completely innaccurate, Vlad. Stop spreading misinformation to my countrymen, just because you live in a cucked-out frozen wasteland ruled by fascism doesn't mean you should come here and spread your lies to decent Americans, you Russian sub-human.

>>714754900
>but hey, remember that nobel peace prize he got

They give peace prizes out for anything really.

Nobel prizes in science and medicine is something entirely different.

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Every democrate

>>714754739
>who builds the yachts and jets?
A relatively small amount of workers who probably don't get paid nearly as much as they should.

By "investing", I'm taking about creating jobs and helping the economy to grow.

>>714754900
>War started by Bush
>Civil Rights removed by Bush
>Let's blame the Black Guy!

>>714754870
I'm not talking about the republican votership, I'm talking about what the actual politicians in Washington are doing. When is the last time you put down the degenerate pornography and flipped over to CSPAN?

>>714754996
yeah this

I'm an Atheist conservative, and it's quite a funny perspective to have seeing the liberals blatant hypocrisy on the subject.

LMFAO you poor brainwashed fag

>>714755020
>black guys promise from first run was to pull all troops out of the middles east, instead lolnope lets send more and do it for 8 more years

>>714754996
when has ever anyone said this?

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>>714754996
Every republican.

(But at least the dems can spell and use grammar correctly.)

>>714755006
Your average boat building construction worker makes over 40 thousand a year. That's just normal industrial boats, specialty boat workers probably make much more. That's a more than reasonable pay for a skilled labor job.

>By "investing", I'm taking about creating jobs and helping the economy to grow.

Once again, where do you think those yachts and jets come from?

>>714755020
Obama promised to pull out of war and that never happened.

>>714752253
Democrats: jobs- freelancer deadbeats, hollywood yuppies,lobbyists, garbage silicon valley start ups.

education- women's studies, advocating useless degrees, deteriorating the quality and standard of higher education.

These threads are always the same circlejerk of fucking little faggots trying to detect just a little bit of anger from their opponents post and upon sensing even the slightest bit of displeasure coming from it, will strut around like a fucking nigger gloating about how their opponent is "so angry" and "so butt hurt" and will claim it as not only a victory (as if there is a literal victory to be had here) for not only them but for their entire political party.

Embarrassing really. I used to think it was stupid that b was nothing but porn these days now it's better to just come here and fap and not engage any of you underage libtards and conservatards in anything at all. And yes I'm being a hypocrite right now.

>>714755214
I'm glad someone finally said it

>"Let me explain why x is wrong, fag"
>"OH UR SO MAD CALLING ME FAG. U MAD? GET BTFO BRO LMAO SO MAD"

>>714755134
well, Obama cut NASA spending. We have no more space shuttle, due to Democrats. Reagan funded the shit out of NASA.

Science will make life better, not more money for tendies.

>>714755204
Its funny how those liberal democrat states are the ones contributing the most to the US by far

>>714755134

>grammar card


Instant winner here folks. Go on home, debate over, game over, libtards win forever.

>>714754754
>i can talk about issues without getting upset

Clearly.

>is a democrat word

kek

>>714755166
Ok, I think you're a little too caught up on boats and jets here, goy. The fact is, the top 1% is absurdly wealthy and they're not doing much for the economy at large by buying insanely expensive luxury items.

>>714755214
Says the guy who came into this tread lol.

>>714755372
>Its funny how those liberal democrat states are the ones contributing the most to the US by far
>killing policemen
>rioting
>killing gays in Orlando, in the name of Islam
>running across the Mexican border to the US for anchor baby status and free tendies
>demanding to vote without IDs

yup.... massive contributors.

>>714755438
>not doing much for the economy at large by buying insanely expensive luxury items.

You know what used to be insanely expensive luxury items? Cell phones, Computers, etc....Because these incredibly wealthy individuals were able to purchase and invest in these technologies, they were able to snowball into the incredibly efficient and cheap technologies we see today.

>>714755312
There it is. The dumbest fucking thing I've read all day.

>"Reagan set the American middle class on a path toward destruction, but at least we waste billions of dollars every year taking pics of pluto!"

And you're wrong. NASA started out as a joint effort funded by several nations, not just the US (Reagan)

>>714755204
Yeah, they're doing such a terrible job, considering the 10 best off states are all majority democrat, and the 10 worst are all majority republican, and California itself has become the 3rd largest economy in the world alone through mainly democratic initiatives.

BTFO.

>>714754900

Ghandi didnt get one, that should say all you need to know about the PP.

>>714755512
So, we can look forward to efficient and cheap jets and yachts? You're spiraling, perhaps you should stop posting.

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>>714755438

>>714755443
not him, but I understand where he's coming from.... because these threads manage to multiply and then invade other threads on /b/

Not a fan of stuff being removed from the random board, as it is a random board.... but I honestly wouldn't mind seeing mods moving these threads to /pol/

>>714754636
You're not a biophysicist. At most you're probably a work study student in a lab. But I would hesitate to even go that far. Papers you've written/co-written?

>>714755383
Not a liberal, faggot.

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>>714755511
> post completely unrelated events

Without the west coast and the democratic states on the east coast USA would be a 1500th century shit hole

>>714755519
>"Reagan set the American middle class on a path toward destruction,

Who's policies created a great deal of wealth for those that wanted it, invested in it.

How come insults aren't really considered a valid form of argument?

You cannot deny that Obama cut NASA funding to well below welfare spending.

President Obama is "the welfare president". Increasing the number on welfare to its highest in US history.

He successfully increased the US debt from 9 to 17 trillion dollars in just 8 years.

>>714753345
How?

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>>714749561
you're too stupid to post

>>714749561
>Social medicare that is mandatory and ruined you

Feels good man

>>714755675
I do data analysis.

>>714755632
Obama was a corporatist who favored corporatist trade deals. I wasn't in favor of that, if thats what you're implying.

>>714755709
Wow, you are a really confused goy aren't you? Trickle down, ever heard of it? Voodoo economics at its worst.

>>714755519
>There it is. The dumbest fucking thing I've read all day.

Didn't deny Reagan's spending on the space program. Literally not an argument.

>>714755725

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/Gun-Control/a/Gun-Laws-Signed-By-Obama.htm

There you go anon

>>714755848
>"I only read what agrees with what I already think" the post

>>714755698
>Without the west coast and the democratic states on the east coast USA would be a 1500th century shit hole

Except for all those working 40-50 hours a week, paying taxes, and watching those on welfare fill their baskets at the grocery store, putting them into new vehicles.

Except those that are tired of it being cheaper to stay on welfare, rather than get a job and be extorted to pay for healthcare that doesn't cover the first $3K in expenses, so that someone who doesn't work can have free everything?

This isn't logical, and you know it.

People are literally refusing to work full time, because it cuts their welfare benefits.

Honest question here how has any president changed your life? My life was the same when bill Clinton was around.It was the same when bush was around.It was the same when Obama was around nothing changed at all. Every one just wants to play along like the president and there party is doing shit for them. There not there puppets for the government they worship there government then act like they hate them.

>>714755134
>Can couldn't be bothered to look up at all or think about any Republican policy and how it helps people, and I'm just going to say what ever Democrats do actually helps everyone because a facebook meme told me so

>>714754082
Interesting, I will look into that a bit more. Thank you for providing quality sources.

>>714752069
/thread

>>714755725
Nothing dramatic, but little things like you can now carry loaded firearms into some national parks.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35484383/ns/us_news-life/t/new-law-allows-loaded-guns-national-parks/

>>714756050
yes? The west cost produces the money for all those welfare recipients. Whats the point?

>>714752296
Nah they didnt want bernie in so they ended up losing an easy win.

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>>714756068
I pay attention. I've watched congressional sessions on CSPAN and I've seen what passes for governance on the right these days. It's sad, because I actually have great respect for conservative values, and these people are making a mockery of them.

>>714752936
That picture is over a decade old...
I dont know why people keep using it.

>>714755623
Well, proportionally speaking, they have become cheaper.

But of course we both see how silly that is, you can't just mass produce something like that for the average consumer. We're talking about something very different, and you're bright enough to recognize that bro.

>>714754986
Yeah you're right, it was a nothing award for a shitty person.

Keep living your own narrative.

>>714756068
You're welcome to name any policy that Republicans have championed that actually helped the middle class in the last ten years, I'll listen. Hell, I'ld be glad to find some praise worthy conservative initiatives.

>>714756162
The numbers of "jobs created" looks literally incorrect, based upon the numbers on welfare today, and how democrats always increase those on welfare, reducing incentive to get a job.

Bill Clinton did a valiant effort for a "works for welfare program" that failed horribly.

>>714752858
He didn't get a chance to sign any because the House dumpstered every attempt. He made at least one major attempt after Sandy Hook.

>>714756312
"I just assume information that shows I'm wrong is untrue." Do you have numbers from a more valid source which contests them? I'll happily concede that stat is inaccurate if you do.

>>714756162
>Republican years holding presidency: 28
>20 of those included a Bush

>>714755853
Read>>714754082

>>714752858
He did sign one presidential order stopping ONE manufacturer from selling guns in the US. They were selling guns to some terrorist organization.

>>714756273
Trump hasn't even taken office and he was person of the year for Time magazine.
There's a high chance he will be awarded peace prizes and such and more for his presidency.

>>714756448
Ouch...

Reality hurts...

>>714756151

the west coast!?

how much income tax has Zuckerberg actually paid on his 20B windfall ?

>>714756162
That stock market return is because of the tech bubble that bill clinton rode, everyone in the market got rich in the late 90s.
Not even a year into george W bush and it popped. The pop had nothing to do with bush, had gore won it still would of popped.

>>714756162
I hate this "Party x created more jobs!"

The government doesn't create jobs unless they are literally government jobs, and most people would agree more government jobs is a garbage idea because we already have an incredibly inflated government.

The only thing government can do besides that is create incentives towards the private sector, which Democrats hate doing.

>Fracking and oil becomes one of the largest job creators in America
>Obama uses executive orders and EPA to actively try and stunt these growing industries
>Somehow this is creating jobs, and not destroying them.

>>714756448
You mean 12 right?

>>714755443

Hence why I acknowledged I was being a hypocrite, you dumbfuck

>>714756580
Hitler was times man of the year as well. I would bet that Trump gets us involved with a war with Iran in his first 2 years in office.

>>714756254
No, YOU are talking about something very different. You're drawing completely false equivalences to investing in technologies that can be mass produced and relatively essential to the consumer to luxury items. Trust me, if rich people think they can make a profit on something, they invest, regardless of constraints. And yes, unnecessary regulations exist, but the problem is a lack of effective regulations that can curb the unsustainable disparity of wealth that currently exists. Obviously we have a different idea of what constitutes an effective approach to the economy -- you believe in a system that has never worked and I don't.

>>714756613
he pays 15% on capital gains.

>>714749561

REASONS TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY:

1. YOU LOVE AND APPRECIATE COMMUNIST IDEAS.

2. YOU APPRECIATE ISLAM, AND VILIFY ANYONE THAT INSULTS IT, AND FEEL WE NEED MORE MUSLIMS AND ISLAMIC CULTURE IN THE US TO "BALANCE THINGS OUT A BIT" - and want to criminalize islamophobia.

3. You feel that the mexican border fence and border patrol are a bad idea, and need to be defunded.

4. You feel it is the American public's responsibility to pay for abortions any time a woman wants one - and to say otherwise is against "a woman's right to choose".

5. You know that legal gun owners are the problem, and everyone doesn't need guns, even if murder is a mostly a brown people gang problem, and gun owners are law abiding citizens, no one needs firearms.

>>714756065

The media pumps the idea that it matters to us personally when it doesn't.

>>714756766
Stop watching network news

>>714756706
You dumb liberals and fake comparisons. Better than a war with Russia, which Hiltlary was going to do if she won.

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>>714756580
Time's Man/Person of the year is not an "awesome guy" award. It's who influenced events the most.

Plus all but three presidents have been given the title the time they've been running the special issue.

>>714756613
Trump moved all his companies aborad and brags about paying 0% taxes. Theres a fucking republican for ya.

Democrat counties produces the most income and is cool with sharing it with the rest, gets called lazy bums in return

>>714756766
Clinton literally sent the police after the producer of "The Innocence of Muslims", remember?

>>714756883

>>714756766
is this a ylyl thread now? because I just lost

>>714752087
Except for the part where millions of people rely on it for basic sustenance and survival. Do you believe everything your rightwing overlords tell you?

>>714756883
>Stop watching network news

The news sources that present stories about the goings on in the U.S. and world?

What is your point? like... "stop being informed about the events in the world"..
I can't see any good in this.

>>714756923
You dumb conservatives and not knowing that its fucking true. Somehow you know that Hillary would have started a war with Russia? fucking retard.

>>714756645
HW was VP

>>714756721
>Free market has never worked despite being the basis of every growing nation in history

>Economic fascism, which has been the downfall of countless countries and societies due to inefficient allocation of money by governmental authorities is somehow a system that "works"


Ok bro, it's clear you're not understanding the point I am trying to make.

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>>714752858

>>714756938
Explain to me how he was not an "awesome guy" for the year? Hitler literally had people killed. Trump just said mean things but at the same time pulled off awesome victory after victory.

>>714756972
>is this a ylyl thread now? because I just lost

Is there an argument?

Prove these are not ideals of the liberal progressive democratic movement?

>>714755020
>Continued War started by Bush and started new ones
>Civil Rights revoked even further by bills Obama passed

>>714757072
You watch a network that slants everything that it reports to whatever side is funding their paychecks.

>>714755595

What initiatives?

>>714756645
Who do you think was Reagan's VP?
To take it further, almost every Republican administration going back to the 1950s included a Bush or a Nixon.

>>714757121
You said President

>>714756754
two problems with that

1. he pays a lower tax rate than a cop, teacher, welder, bus driver, carpenter
2. he doesn't have any capital gains unless he sells shares

so really, his vast quantity of unearned wealth is sitting idly by, while regular hard working americans fund the democrat welfare state

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?tid=sm_tw

Holy shit Putin fucking wrecked the USA, what a man

>>714757195
>You watch a network that slants everything that it reports to whatever side is funding their paychecks.

Most of these networks continually slammed trump to lose, saying he was a racist bigot.

What is your point?

>>714757133
He has divided an already divided nation even more. Also the world is fucking laughing at us for electing him. HRC was a pile of shit as well though.

>>714756991

The earliest contributors to a ponzi scheme get payouts. The first generation to seriously pay into the system their entire lives is getting their payouts now. Those of us born in the 70s onward are fucked, we're paying into something we won't see a payout on. That's pretty much the definition of a ponzi scheme.

You fuckers are so blind to the threat or implication of gun law change that nobody actually can step back and look at it objectively and be like "yeah actually we're fucking retarded and nothing is wrong"

I have guns out the asshole, explain to me how that was infringed in any way then expand on that to explain why every mentally retarded and/or convicted fucktard should be as armed up as I am.

Protip:you can't.

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>>714757127
>Unobstructed conceal carry
>The same as armed guards

Are you retarded?

>>714757194
What civil rights exactly?

>>714757118
>714757118
She wanted to enforce a no fly zone over Syria and said so in the debate. That would have led to war with Russia if she enforced it and shot down Russian aircraft violating it. That's pretty fucking insane, Trump has been rather anti-war.

>>714757297
>He has divided an already divided nation even more.

Obama started that ball rolling with his endorsement of his son, Trayvon, and his admiration and respect for Black Lives Matter- that literally fails at logic.

Every study funded by these groups indicated their findings were backwards.

>>714757118
>Somehow you know

And somehow you know that Trump will start a war with Iran? Hillary was literally going to set up a no fly zone in syria which would surely spark a war with Russia. Also Putin disliked Hillary and was more likely to pull the trigger with her as your "commander". Remember how excited Putin was when his comrade won instead?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war

>>714757254
Interest on the money earned just sitting in the bank. He probably pays a shitload of money on his paycheck that he receives from FB if he gets one. Also the guy gives away shitloads of money.

>>714753988
Now you're just making shit up you fascist idiot. Obama won the 2012 popular vote by over 3 million votes. Get your head out of the rightwing echo chamber and get a little O2 to your brain.

>>714757430
Can I ask you something?

>>714757298
Or our government can fucking pay back the money it borrowed from it.

>>714754131
Makes a bunch of shit up - calls it substance.

>>714757127

is self-defense a human right ?

then guns are a human right

>>714757430
He actually lost the popular vote in the 2008 Primary against HRC, but won on EVs.

>>714757297
Obama proved to black people that it's OK to hate whitey. There was zero effort to help collaboration. He validated their imaginary grievances and built an African American museum of hate validation in Washington DC.

test

>>714751778
no he's not retarded, you are blatantly mentally challenged with a case of autism and have no clue what you are talking about faggot

>>714757359

Then why more military spending?

>>714757359
Except that would need to actually happen.

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>>714757515
>built an African American museum of hate validation in Washington DC

Museum of African American victimization, so our nation can never heal.

>>714757122
>free market has never worked, despite being the basis of every growing nation in history
What, exactly, is """the free market""", broseph? There is no such thing as an objectively free market... it doesn't exist.

I don't identify as a socialist and I certainly don't identify as a capitalist, but I believe that both ultimately need to coexist for a sustainable economy. But what I absolutely do not believe is this idea that extreme approaches to deregulation and giant reductions in taxes to the top 1% is the answer to our problems. Reaganomics (trickle down) proves this approach to only increase the disparity of wealth and grossly add to the deficit.

I suppose an olive branch would be that I do believe the corporate tax rate needs to be reduced (only not as much as in Trump's deficit-busting tax plan)

>>714757546
Technology is what has been keeping us safe, and it has to be publicly funded.

>>714757297
If our nation is divided it's because you hypocrites can't accept a loss by your retarded leader that you picked. Not our problem you are sore losers.
And where are you getting that the world is laughing at us? Everyone is excited by Trumps election, we are even getting foreign leaders who wouldn't normally talk to our president congratulating him. That's how much Obama was hated by other countries.

>>714757589
It mentions militia in contrast to the people. I know grammar isn't your strong suit, but basic English comprehension can help you out a lot in discussions like these.

>>714757515
yea thats what happened sure. I like to make shit up too.

Applesauce is bad for your feet and its the presidents fault.


Go read a fucking book

>>714757513
Convention delegates are not electoral votes - learn what the fuck you are even talking about idiot.

>>714757170
the burden of proof is on you fam, you brought up the topics

Listen to the slew of angry cuck liberals in this thread, it's all good thought cause it's just shit bait and unintelligence.

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>>714757636
>What, exactly, is """the free market""", broseph? There is no such thing as an objectively free market... it doesn't exist.

Except in Scandinavian countries it's more free than in the U.S.

Wants a lesson on /b/

>>714757570
We're going by what politicians said, and that's exactly what she said. We're comparing what trump has said to what she said, I'm not sure what else you want. We already saw evidence of her statecraft in Libya, it could easily have happened.

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>>714757328
>What civil rights exactly?

Are you fucking serious?


Pretty much all of them.

>>714757589
What part of "well regulated" don't you understand?

>>714757661
Did you not see that whole part where I called HRC a pile of shit? Putin working with us is a horrible fucking thing if you don't know why you need to pay attention to how they do things over in Russia.

>>714757507

In that logic, I need a nuke to deter someone else that might have a nuke.

>>714752858
>made it harder to get conceal and carry
There is actually more, but you told me to name one.

>>714757761
>Pretty much all of them.
But you can't name a single one.
It's your crippling inadequacy that keeps you down - not Obama.

>>714757688
>yea thats what happened sure. I like to make shit up too.
>Applesauce is bad for your feet and its the presidents fault.
>Go read a fucking book

I can't help it if you're uninformed or pay no attention to presidential speeches or what he says.

You literally have no argument or tools to argue with. Our nation has never been so divided as it is now, due to our president

Except when OJ was set free, and blacks celebrated in the streets because a murderer was set free.

>>714757716
It's the same exact concept, don't get butthurt because reality caught up to you.

>>714757719
The democrats are telling us ad nauseam that these are the issues they care about. They're telling us even when we don't ask, and they never stop talking about it.

Are you serious?

>>714757761
So you don't have a fucking clue got it. Also the NDAA was run the house and senate so the entire government did that not just one person.

>>714757753
My point is that freedom is very relative, and I have no idea what you're taking about when you say they're "more free". I know the corporate tax rates are lower, and I addressed that; however, as far as the rest of their economic systems, I think you'll find that they have a much more progressive approach to the economy that most countries on earth.

>>714757888
>Our nation has never been so divided as it is now, due to our president
You're the kind of idiot that blames a house fire on the guys in the red trucks who always seem to be at the scene of a fire.

>>714757688
HAHAHAH listen to this absolute abysmal FAGGOT

>>714757719
Communist Party USA put its full support behind Hillary Clinton, and not ONE democrat even cared for a second.

KKK backs Trump, and everyone goes ape shit.

Which has done more damage?

yay! post limit!

goodbye cancerous thread!

too bad there's more and will be more, though

>>714757888
You're literally making shit up. and calling me uninformed

>>714758000
If 'freedom' is defined by upward economic mobility than the USA has been in a free fall for 30 years. Canadians have more upward mobility than Amerislobs.

>>714758074
please tell me which one

>>714752905

>crooked establishment

id like to know what establisment you are talking about when everything was in favor of Clinton. All anyone ever heard from any media outlet, newspaper, celebrity, etc is the inevitable Clinton landslide. What establisment?

>>714758064
Snappy comeback

>>714757828
Oh I see you fell for Putin is an evil nasty dictator portrayed by the liberal media. Also having more self interest for your country, the way Putin does, wouldn't be such a horrible thing to rub off on our country. Under obama we spent most of our time trying to please everyone in the world, while ignoring our own problems. That's how dumb elitist liberals like obama thinks, they don't see their own problem until it takes them out all in the name of acting like a humanitarian.

>>714758005
>You're the kind of idiot that blames a house fire on the guys in the red trucks who always seem to be at the scene of a fire.

He put two civil rights leaders Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch into office, Holder is a criminal, and Loretta Lynch literally folded like a deck of cards to scrutiny by Cruz.

Watch Cruz's debate with her. It's fucking hilarious. She had no business in that office simply based upon that debate alone.

>>714758177
Putin got Trump elected who will revoke social welfare and medicare which will kill thousands, so yeah hes a enemy of america