how can the human race stop or reverse manmade global warming/cooling

>>714590640
burn jews instead

Time travel

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I, milqtoast Mustang Mike, frown upon this thread and all who jerk their wanks.

Rub oil on me

>>714590640
>manmade global warming/cooling

you mean what real men used to call the fucking weather?

you can't faggot, you just dress for it.

>>714590640

It's going to be 100 times harder now that Trump is going to be president.

Coal, baby! Burn, burn, burn! Ching, ching, ching!

You don't.

Working together and leaving the personal interests to solve all or social problems and use our resources to develop sustainable "clean" energy.

>>714590640

We can't. We passed the point of no return around the late 80s / early 90s. Our only hope now is to build our economy as aggressively as possible and use the funds to adapt to the new normal. China is already doing it while the Western world sticks its head in the sand.

>>714590640
Pure fiction. The weather goes through cycles. None of the alarmist predictions have come true. None of the climate trends from the last 40 years fit the model. The world has been warming than it is now in the past few hundred years and colder as well. This is all a statist /Marxist power grab and it depends on ignorant dupes like yourself.

Just wait for the next Ice Age
we get one every 10,000 years and its been nearly 10,000 since the last

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By giving hundreds of millions of dollars to developing countries, like Africa, to create alternate energy innovations and solutions.

>>714591398

I see all the shills in Congress (and elsewhere) who are lavishly paid by the oil companies have had the desired effect on you.

Step 1: Stop burning fossil fuels
...
There is no step 2

>>714591398
>The weather goes through cycles

Thank you demonstrating how poorly informed you are on anything related to this topic

>>714590640
We can't. We are doomed.

>>714590640
Not possible. I mean theoretical possible but in real life it is in fact not possible.

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>>714590640
It's too late.

We are going to go extinct. Electing Trump is proof of this.

The next 200 years will be the systematic plundering and rape of the Earth and society until you're either eliminated or learn how to become an Exploiter yourself.

AGW is real, but it's not what it's presented to be. CO2 does cause warming, but that warming is logarithmic, not exponential. For each doubling of atmospheric CO2, we will see 1.65 degrees C of warming, eventually. So, with the diminishing returns on warming per PPM of CO2, we will never see runaway global warming. It's not physically possible. Consider this:
>most of the history of Earth had CO2 in the thousands of PPM
>most of the history of Earth was only slightly warmer
>half of the history of Earth had life similar to what we have now
Mammals existed and thrived when there was 3000 PPM of CO2. And we are not capable of creating even these high concentrations of CO2, even if we burned every bit of fossil fuel in existence.

So, can we reverse the warming that we've seen? Sure, by cutting emissions and creating carbon sinks. But there's no reason to. We should focus instead on farm runoff that's killing ocean life in droves, and any types of dangerous emissions that cause epidemic levels of asthma and such. You know, things with proven causal relationships and disastrous results.

>>714590640
they already have working co2 pumps. so just make more of those.

>>714590640
Stop burning hydrocarbons
Carbon scrubbers

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>>714592232

This shows how we don't give a shit about our owb extinction.
I hope AI gets developed and spreads life throughout the universe,.

>>714592239
>durr libs r still rong about global warming
faggot

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>>714592422
that guy has nothing to do with this thread
stop being a faggot

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>>714591398

>>714592399
>durr libs
Who said anything about liberals? Or politics at all? I'm a liberal. I'm just also a scientist.

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>>714592489

>>714592533
wedgewood_facepalm.png

>>714591398
Good. Maybe you belong in a gulag.

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>>714592232
This, its fact. Its too late, if we turned it around 100 percent completely, right now, NO BS from any countries we MIGHT have a chance. But the way things are going its over no matter what.

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>>714590640
nope.
We crossed the non-return-point of carbon dioxyde 3 months ago. currently over 400 parts per million and will not come down. trump can fuck this up as much as he fucking wants now. its already over.

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/world-passes-400-ppm-threshold-permanently-20738

>>714591577
God I hate the liberals in my country

>>714592614
Because you are deliberately contradicting what 99% of science is saying. You are not the expert here, they are, and they have made their recommendations. You are trying to shift the problem to something that has nothing to do with climate change, and you're being a faggot.

>>714592616
why the fuck do you have that shit saved on your computer faggot

>>714592718
Because liberals are totally doing this

faggot

>>714592803
Who cares he's bumping the thread.

>>714592718
Me too bud.

>>714592785
>>714592847

stop posting that guy you autistic faggot fuck

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>>714592803
For Travis threads.

>>714592880
fuck you
the liberals in this country at least believe in climate change and are trying to do something about it

It is already too late. Welcome to the holocene.

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>>714592939

>>714590640
Why do we want to?

Also the risky, untested means for removing carbon dioxide from our atmosphere will likely be the thing that destroys all life on this planet.

>>714592943
>>714593015
you are an autistic
faggot fuck
rape yourself

>>714593065
>>714593015
faggot

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>>714593046
Kek

>>714593040
>driving less cars is too risky

kek

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>>714593094

>>714593136
GODDAMMIT STOP SPAMMING THIS THREAD YOU AUTISTIC FAGGOT FUCK
FUCK YOU

>>714593180
do you fap to that shit?

kek

>>714592054

Step 1 kill all the white people (Asians too)

Step 2 with all white people gone, in a few generations the Troglodyte races will have forgotten how to extract, refine and use fossil fuels.

Step 3 Things turn to normal

Step 4 Wait for Ice age

Step 5 With the Harsh environment of an ice age needing Higher Intelligence to plan and survive the people that don't fleet to the equator become white people again.

Step 6 This time don't fanny about trying to uplift them and finish the job of killing the Troggs and jungle people.

Step 7 ???

Step 8 Profit!

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>>714593182
Make me

>>714593221
>Step 7 ???

fap hard to Maisie's tight body

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>>714593217

>>714593315
so that's a yes
you imagine that fat fuck nuzzling your tiny cock
who knew?

From the fact we're all still alive yeah I'd say we CAN but we won't because there's far too much money in it and almost everyone has a petrol/diesel car, and I don't see them shelling out for a new one when the problem won't affect them in their lifetime.

>>714592975
Kek

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>>714593396

>>714590640
white pine absorbs almost 100% of its growth rate in the first 20 years of its life
so if we grow massive forests of white pine
chop them down after 20 years
and bury all the trees in air tight vaults
then replant the forests for another cycle
we will remove carbon from the atmosphere
the only thing we really need to do is calculate the amount of carbon we put into the atmosphere and balance our forests to pull that much out every year

>>714593315
>>714593363
>>714593419
you are so incredibly austic anon
kys
for the love of god

>>714593463
faggot

>>714593519
>>714593479
faggot

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>>714593487

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>>714593578

>>714593585
>>714593635
>>714593664
faggot

>>714593484
>and bury all the trees in air tight vaults

silly goy, them pines sound like a great sauce, we could sell them as green fuel!

>>714592783
>Because you are deliberately contradicting what 99% of science is saying.
Science does not function on consensus. There is no directory of scientists who were asked to submit opinions on AGW. And the studies that claim a 99% consensus are deeply flawed (Cook et al. in particular). There is no Senate of Science. One person can be right while the rest of the world can be wrong. And it has happened many times before.

>You are not the expert here
I am, I work in the field

>they are
Scientists work in specialization, and they tend to defer to the opinions of other scientists when not talking about their own specialization. Which allows educational institutions and politicians to basically determine what the "general scientific opinion" is. It is a bad cycle in any area of science that can be politicized.

>and they have made their recommendations
The IPCC made their recommendations. But they are not a scientific organization-- they are a political organization. And they are wrong.

>You are trying to shift the problem to something that has nothing to do with climate change
No, I'm pointing out the inherent problems in the bullshit narrative about CO2. Guy Callendar's model is still virtually unimproved, which shows that the relationship between CO2 and warming is logarithmic. No other model has made more accurate predictions, and no other model can accurately predict these relationships both far in the past (millions of years) and in the short term future (200 years).

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>>714593702

>>714590640


It can't. The threshold for reversibility was that emissions had to peak in 2015 and start going down.

We're fucked.

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>>714593484

OR MARIJUANA!

>>714593757
>they are a political organization. And they are wrong.

haha no

you are

science is not saying any of the shit you're posting here
some lib must have schooled your fucking ass

>>714593484

Pine trees need acidic soils that drain freely irrc. Sad part about this is we are killing off more soil through agriculture which means lesd space for trees and yes agriculture.

People always harp on about cutting down trees and co2 emissions but its bollocks. Humanity is going to run out of fertile soil before it runs out of air. No one gives a fuck about soil.

>/late night arb rant

>>714593762
>>714593828
>>714593858
faggot

We put fucking solar panels on everyone\s roof to make room on our existing electrical grid for everyone to have a fucking electric car. We stop burning coal and we leave the rest of the fucking oil IN THE FUCKING GROUND!!!

If there were more people trying to make the solar energy reliable we could be saved.

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>>714593959

>>714591398
From the same great minds that believe our own President Obama is a Kenyan Muslim.

>>714593757
>>You are not the expert here
>I am, I work in the field

if you are not a climatologist

nobody fucking cares what you're claiming to be

>>714594040
>>714593986
faggot

>>714593901
three problems
>cannabis only absorbs ~60% of its growth rate in atmospheric carbon
>cannabis do not grow to very large weights
>cannabis is generally burnt, which puts most of the carbon it absorbed back into the atmosphere

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>>714594112

>>714590640

We can't.

I know that this is supposed to be some joke shit, but real talk: We're super fucked. Like, Earth will be dramatically more hostile to life in 30 years fucked. Like "in 15 years, most marine and about all insect species that exist today will be extinct" fucked.

>>714594155
>>714594211
>>714594084
still being a massive autist

>>714593967
Solar panels only have a efficiency of 16% we need to fix that.

>>714594155
>>714594211
>>714594264
faggot

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>>714594270
>>714594333

>>714593906
>>they are a political organization
>haha no

>IPCC
>Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
>Intergovernmental Panel
>Intergovernmental
>governmental
Governments are political entities. Panels are organizations. So it follows that the IPCC is a political organization.

>>And they are wrong.
>you are
Really, nice rebuttal of the facts, here. You changed my mind. Really.

>science is not saying any of the shit you're posting here
Science doesn't "say" anything. Why are you treating science as if it's a homogeneous thing, rather than a method? Scientists say things. And many other scientists agree with me. Scientists that work at places like MIT, scientists that have published thousands of peer reviewed studies. You can go read them, instead of just accepting the opinion of the government.

>some lib must have schooled your fucking ass
Again, I am a liberal. And I was schooled by other liberals, primarily. In those circles, no one pretends that there is some consensus on climate change, that it is a done deal. Because they are scientists. It's the educational administration that pretends this, and governments.

About 80% of the world's population lives within 60 miles of a coastline. Although the technology and engineering are difficult, the problems are not insurmountable and the issues can be overcome with a "moonshot" approach.

So two words: Tidal Energy

I don't want to breathe in toxic air caused by human activities. This shouldn't be a hard concept for anyone (even climate change skeptics) to understand.

>>714591002
its always useful to know who the people who are scientifically illiterate are.

unfortunately, while idea of boiling a frog is appealing, the fact the rest of us are stuck in the same pan makes it less appealing to let idiots like yourself auto-darwinate.

>>714593907
>No one gives a fuck about soil.
I do, and I've made this point literally hundreds of times in the past decade. But it's been a waste of time, people are too focused on an issue that is not really a major threat.

https://engineeringdotasudotedu/cnce/

Only a matter of time, this technology, combined with something like a cocolithophore will reduce the current carbon dioxide and fix it to a solid form.

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how can the human race stop these dubs

>>714594062
>if you are not a climatologist
there are no climatologists on /b/?

>>714590640
it can't unless it wants to go back to a pre-industrial revolution style of life with no computers or electricity

Whatever foolish things humans may do that will likely cause their extinction, it won't stop the planet, and some new forms of life, from keeping on...

>>714594739
I'm a climatologist. Ask your questions.

>>714590640
>how can the human race stop or reverse manmade global warming/cooling caused by burning fossil fuels?


No such thing.

However, if you're concerned about dumping gigatons of fossil carbon into the only atmosphere we have, then we have carbon-free means available to us.

First and foremost, nuclear energy. There is so much uranium available, the energy resource dwarfs fossil fuels into insignificance. Use Gen-4 closed-fuel-cycle nuclear power plants to drive fischer tropsch conversion plants to transform biomass and hydrogen (cracked from water via thermo-chemical cycles) into all the carbon-neutral liquid hydrocarbons you want.

There, all done.

Simple, if you can get over your irrational fears.

>>714594487
It's not just the government touting human caused climate change. Some of the most influential well known scientists have voiced concerns about human caused climate change. It's not just the burning of fossil fuels either. Deforestation is already causing noticeable changes in micro climates across the world. To deny that humans have had little impact is ignorance.

>>714594874
That's stupid, you assume that you need coal for electricity. Coal is only 31% of America's electric supply. Trump can't change that much because the other shit is just getting cheaper.

>>714593967
where would we get the plastic for our computers then?

>>714594062
>hur dur, you don't have the credentials to have an opinion on this subject
>posts opinion on the subject

>hur dur, any claims you make of any credentials are not believable
>doesn't bother rebutting the argument

So you're both nobody, and you're only capable of shitposting. Got it.

>>714590640
LOL

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We could accept the fact that humans do not have that much power over their environment. Seriously, every time I hear about humans being the cause if this, I think about Christians claiming they were the center if their diety's geo centric universe. Guess what!? It was a lot hotter and note oxygenated during dinosaurs. Ice caps melt revealing previous civilizations. Are these all because people drive SUVs or carbon foot prints, or are they because climate change is inevitable and to think we have any major effect on it is down right ludicrous?

>>714591538
>Just wait for the next Ice Age
>we get one every 10,000 years and its been nearly 10,000 since the last


This guy, he gets it.

We're due for some SERIOUS cold in the next few dozen centuries.

>>714595120
Microorganisms faggot, bioplastics.

I think there's hope with scrubbing the atmosphere and tailoring it basically how we want it, trapping co2 in concrete seems very promising

>>714595092
no but all the stuff you use with that lifestyle comes from other stuff to that needs fossil fuels for more than electricity and is just as damaging to the environment

>>714594945
Why doesn't the IPCC share their data with the rest of the scientific community to verify their claims?

That, after all, is how science works. Isn't it?

>>714592239
>we are not capable of creating even these high concentrations of CO2, even if we burned every bit of fossil fuel in existence.


CHALLENGE

ACCEPTED

I think you have no fucking idea how much fossil fuel is out there, anon.

>>714595359
We don't need fossil fuels, there is current research being done with biotechnology attempting to replace petroleum-based products of all sorts.

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>>714594945
How fucked are we

Mfw when Im looking for hope where there is none

>>714592715
>We crossed the non-return-point of carbon dioxyde 3 months ago. currently over 400 parts per million and will not come down.


Heh.

Posting on 4-chan and still believing the endless fake news about global warming.

IT'S ALL LIES, BINKY.

>>714595254
yeah except it's not viable at yet