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I smoked a bunch of dmt and the overwhelming message I got was

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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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I smoked a bunch of dmt and the overwhelming message I got was that death is freedom from this world. So the "other" told me to kill myself. Thoughts?
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Give me some
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>>714573307
Say hello to a lifetime on antipsychotics
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>>714573307
death maybe freedom from this world but if you leave early you will be coming right back to finish what you have started.
best to do the best you can with what you got and aim for year to year improvements in your life and as a person to achieve the best you can....or something like that
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>>714573307
My head or consciousnes was basically swimming in a soup of interconnected points that I'm assuming happens to us when we die. But The 2 most important things that seemed to be broadcasted throughout the whole experience was sex, love, and bliss are what we strive for here on earth, and then death is basically a folding into the void. The void being energy I think, something kinda like the force.
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>>714573307
The voice I heard was also female if that rings any bells for anyone. Kinda reminded me of my mom
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Bump love dmt.
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>>714573307
other noteworthy points are that iv gotten the same message on heroic doses of mushrooms, acid, and any other psychedelic you can think of. It seems like this life is just a metamorphosis into a collective consciousness that permeates all throughout reality. Reality being what we experience when were straight.
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>>714573983

It probably was your mom. She was calling you up from the basement to eat your spaghettios, but you were too fucked to know what was happening.
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>>714574628
I was in my apartment but I'm pretty sure I did scare the shit out of my roommate.
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>>714573762
Had a similar experience. I was in a desolate desert. Large mountain ranges surrounding me in all directions. The Stars were as bright as they would be if it was night but it was day, and a strange figure approached me. It was like the mix between a man and a wolf (I would venture to say it looked like Anubis) It told me my purpose was to seek out the olive branch before the coming of the great hot clouds. "Within these clouds are a plague that will poison your every cell, the olive branch is the antidote and it is guarded by the bear of the east" can anyone translate this garbage? Because I'm at my wits end.
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>>714574565
i got 'don't go to the moon, you don't belong there' from the voice. this was in the late 90s
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>>714575027
Also I took hiuwuscu
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>>714575082
amazonian tribes say that we shouldn't go to the moon, it was created beyond our grasp for a reason.
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>>714575204
what is hiuwuscu? do you mean ayahuasca?
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>>714575387
Yes that. I'm not very good at spelling
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where do you even get shit like this?
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>>714575515
ask your drug dealer. he might no a guy who knows a guy. it took awhile for me to get my hands on it. and it was pretty expensive.
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>>714573307
Death is inevitable. Enjoy this plane of existence while you're here. You have forever to be dead.
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>>714575792
death is inevitable but arent you curious what happens when you get there? Dmt seems like it lets you take a peak before bringing you back.
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>>714575027
>translate this garbage
If you see it as garbage, why do you think there's meaning and want it translated?
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Did some salvia and kinda got the same impression. Nothing maters but it's not worth dieing about. I would rather be like sisyphus and just deal with life and smile.
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>>714575952
every message iv recieved on psychedelics came through pure meaning. not words. and it was never unclear
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>>714576073
well im not about to kill myself yet. But it seems kind of hollow to live a life that is a means to an empty end?
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>>714573307
Did you make the DMT? Only done it like twice.
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>>714573645

The hell are you on about with the coming back shit??
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>>714576761
nope. bought from a reliable source.
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>>714573307
>>714576236

http://bit.
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>>714573307
When the universe lets ya know there is no good in your math and the way you as a individual live. Op you suck so hard you better off dead.

Plant a tree so it will improve the quality of the air you waste.
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>>714577113
I dont know if it was telling me to kill myself now.. I think its more like everyone is waiting for you when you do die. And that its okay be calm all that shit
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>>714577335
Thats nice, but the world needs people burning calories in effort to keep balance in the biological medium. Else we are snuffed of physicality, adaptive potential.... and all idea and no action.

Plant a tree anyway Op.
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>>714577797
I dont think physicality is where our adaptive potential is going to take us.
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putting reality into the irrational is silly, buying into DMT is like believing your dreams 100%.
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>>714578362
what is your explanation for what happens.
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>>714578511
your implying there is one, at least one we can understand.
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>>714578626
so since we dont understand we just shouldnt believe it?
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>>714578085
We are on the cusp of being able to directly send thought wirelessly, tecnology makes static things imbued with our will. Biology may be a phase but as we look up and out what makes you think that we wont peirce the seperation between our whole potential and our biology.

Self restraint is all that stands between snuffing our own potential and touching all corners of the quantum universe.
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>>714578733
no because you are confusing death for a DMT trip which are 2 different things.
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>>714579070
And besides. Keeping biology in balance even then gives us a back to the drawing board template.
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What is freedom when you can't use it to do anything? A relief of pain? Okay so if you're in mortal agony then maybe that is the best. But otherwise, you're sacrificing potential in exchange for nothingness just because you're too much of a pussy to handle emotions that are undoubtedly temporary
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>>714579133
Heard a story a few years back mid way through my first year of college. They had a guy die in his sleep from DMT apparently, did acid multiple times and DMT once before college but avoided it like the plague after hearing that.
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>>714579133
oh. well no I don't know whether or not it's what death is. But its something immense and unknowable so it has its similarities.
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>>714579363
I think the message was that death is a passage into what comes next which is freedom, or a superspace, the original source, whatever you want to call it. Something much bigger than what we experience now.
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>>714575952
I don't mean it's literally garbage. in not very intelligent to begin with so I don't understand any of it.
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death isnt real
how u can be dead?
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>>714579133

This. This thread is full of people who take trips way too seriously
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>>714579441
>I heard a random anecdotal story a few years ago that has no absolutely no scientific basis behind it and therefore I am scared

You would do well in the middle ages
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>>714573307
Nah man it's reptillians
If you can use your memory whilst in that type of untealistic environment
You'd ask for a logical explanation

Yes death freedom from this world
But what if in the other world there is no death only suffering
Suffering pain and no freedom to do what you want
We are privlidged man stay humble you high cunt
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>>714579626
I just was hoping to find a anon to help me decipher what this shit means. It's kind of frustrating
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>>714579664
Right anon, death is a social construct.
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>>714579704
a dmt trip is a pretty intense experience. Its really hard not to take it seriously. Im not saying its literal death incarnate. But its definitley something very important.
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>>714579615
Yeah but what's the rush? We're all gonna die eventually and then we'll get to spend eternity there afterwards, there's no reason to try and get there as soon as possible. Enjoy what's temporary, the permanent shit will always be there
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>>714576073
Response to that picture

Thats assuming you don't exist when you die
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I would love to try dmt but I haven't even had an ego loss experience with acid....so how dare does dmt take you? I'm super scared to try it. I don't really like the idea of being so far gone.
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>>714579720
Seeing that I smoked regularly with the guy whos house he died in I'd just say I'm playing it safe. It's not like I'm knocking anybody else for using it. Shame on you anon.
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>>714579967
it is absolutely more than you will ever be ready for. no experience can really prepare you for it.
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>>714579793
This post triggered me
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>>714579780
the whole point was that freedom from your body is absolute. Its being transferred to pure energy or something close to it. I cant pretend to comprehend it. I just know what it felt like.
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>>714580055
Considering it's physically impossible to die from smoking DMT, you're not "playing it safe", you're indulging a delusional belief based off imaginary bullshit. I might as well say I'm "playing it safe" by never going outside because somebody once told me that the sun can instantly vaporize you in 10 seconds
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>>714576083
Well this was with words. Why does an olive branch have the cure from some plague from the sky and why was some wolf man telling this
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>>714579882

No it isn't, everything you experienced was your imagination. Trying to apply it to reality is just wrong.
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>>714579967
DMT is about embracing the unknown. If you aren't ready to accept that then don't do it. This goes for all psychedelics in general, but especially for DMT
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>>714580493
sounds like youve never tried it
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>>714580493
and if you know definitively what reality is, then you are the first human who figured that out.
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>>714580493
>someone who has clearly never taken psychedelics

Sorry to burst your bubble fag but the entire world is based of perception. The sober perception isn't anymore "right" than an altered one, they are just different. There is no such thing as an objective reality.
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>>714573307
Jews. Ask the dmt about the magnetosphere of the earth
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>>714573645
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>>714580329
But it isn't imaginary, he actually died, from what is still foreign. The story was told by my brother after the police raided the guys house, he never liked any kind of drug unless it was weed and would stir me up about acid. I knew about the DMT overdose, as my friend bought it senior year of high school and laid the information down about it before we tried it. Now he's addicted to xanax and robbing old people.
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>>714580643

No I haven't . I've had some 'profound' trips on ketamin though. Opened up different parts of the brain but that's all it is: the brain.
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>>714580438
so its all subjective to yourself. does an olive branch represent peace to you? storm clouds often are associated with a coming problem or trouble on the horizon, like a CCR song. You can draw infinite meaning from words and patterns
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>>714581218
You could literally conclude the same thing about sobriety, "that's all it is: the brain". So shut the fuck up dumbass
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>>714581218
right its the brain.. and we as a species don't understand the brain very well. How can you write off these experiences as a figment of imagination when you cant definitivley prove that your subjective waking reality is actually happening. Keep an open mind
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>>714581274
To be honest with you, I didn't even know olives grew on branches
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>>714581472
sounds like you should just go back to that desert, double the dose and try again. But this time ask some questions. Like I said, psychedelics communicate through conceptualizing meaning through just that pure visible meaning. Not words. Thats just what we as humans use as a medium to bring the information back from whatever hyperspace we got it from
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>>714581642
So go back and try and talk with this thing again? It was kinda terrifying, but comforting at the same time. I told my brother about this and he said the bear in the east could mean Russia. Whatever that means.
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Smoked it a few years ago and was literally catapulted out of my body at insane speed into this 'information tunnel' popped out the other side in some kind of 'building' and was shown around by these angel kind of things
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>>714581822
Like I said I'm not very smart. I can spell okay, but I have a learning disability.
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>>714581822
Yeah dude you gotta ask them about the Jews and how sneaky they are too
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>>714581822
absolutely try it again. and when you get the message again. Pose a question to it. Usually they are answered. Or at least acknowledged. And yeah bear in the east could have to do with russia but its doubtful. Most of the messages conveyed operate on a much grander scale than human politics.
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>>714581142
The LD50 for DMT is 110 mg/kg. For an individual that weighs 60 kg (about 132 lbs), this would require nearly 7 grams of DMT. Nigga do you have any fucking idea how much 7 grams of DMT is? The standard dose is like 1% of that. So unless you're friend took 100 back to back bong rips of DMT, I think it's safe to say he didn't die of that. And DMT doesn't have any dangerous or compounding physiological side effects. Nobody has ever over-dosed from DMT, or acid, or shrooms, or weed because that's impossibly retarded. So no. He didn't die of DMT. I'm sorry he died, but honestly it's kind of an insult to his death you just write it off as being DMT instead of actually finding out what it really was.

I'm not saying DMT can fuck you up mentally simply because it is such a powerful psychedelic, but you absolute cannot die from it, period.
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>>714581967
Jews? Wait what? What does that have anything to do with it?
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>>714582071
"death from astonishment"
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>>714581438
Entropy in dreams is still a theme. Cause and effect is inescapable in a law of strong entropy.

Consider erring on the side of caution.
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>>714582063
Thanx for your input anon. I have another chance at this next weekend. Now that I kinda know what to expect, I'll have some questions for this person thing
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>>714576795
>>714581104
Guys if you can open your mind and read this im sure it can help some of you out here truthcontest com
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>>714582259
cause and effect, yin and yang, as above so below, its all the same. But what do you mean about caution? I already take dmt as a fairly sacred thing.
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>>714581898
Also I fully believe this was all real in some other reality
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>>714579720
hahaha
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>>714582531
I dont think its another reality i think its a part of the same whole just not "visible" to us when were baseline sober.
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>>714582089
Just ask, you'll find out
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>>714573762
Why would you assume that your hallucination had anything to do with death. You have no basis to associate the two.
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>>714581898
Can you imagine that coversation in the breakroom.

Bob, why we only talk to these drugged up fuckers?

Because they are chronologically, dimensionally, and bilogically irrelevant dry heaves... and well they are a nice way to package new ideas because noone will belive them, but many will hear and consider. Because they talk endlessly about it like it valadates the addiction.
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>>714582089
>>714582731
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>>714582764
It was a conveyed meaning. I cant say for certain that it was death, just something more than what we experience now. You can call it whatever you want but its something much more.. idk, complex than what we are experiencing now. But your absolutley right. I cannot say that its death, it just felt like what i would imagine death to be.
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>>714583114
Even if you're 100% correct about experiencing something more, it doesn't tie it to afterlife at all.
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>>714582883
They seemed very caring but also devious like I had to keep one step ahead or they would fuck around and do something bad
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>>714583418
no you're absolutely right. I cannot call it an afterlife. It's just the closest example to what I can compare it to and still stay relatable.
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>>714581438

Until people start having trips about the same world with the same features, laws and consequences etc.. I'm going to put them on the same reality plain as dreams (though you probably think they're real to)
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>>714583584
Thanks for hearing me out. It means a lot.
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>>714583924
I don't think its about whats real. No one can tell you what is real. It's all subjective. Dreams are a real experience that we all have.. but that doesnt amount to meaning. But that doesn't mean its meaningless
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>>714584077
Do you want there to be an afterlife anon?
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>>714574628
HOLY KEK!
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>>714582071
That's a lot more than what I learned on high school. Inspired me to do some research. Kudos
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ITT: People who take hallucinogens..... fucking hallucinate.

...

Who would have thought.
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>>714582196
lol
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>>714584475
You're the most intelligent person that has posted so far.
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>>714584475
close minded to think that it doesn't have meaning.
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>>714584083

Yes well I was suggesting that OP's trip was more akon to a dream rather than the literal afterlife
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ive been killed in dreams, at first i couldnt hear anything and then everything went black
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>>714584980
Actually kid I've done tonnes of psychs.

I'm just not a simpleton.
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>>714584980
close minded to believe its significant
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>>714585158
how so? Name one other experience that has more significance or intensity.
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>>714584980

What do you mean by meaning?
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>>714585340
>Name one other experience that has more significance or intensity.
Taking a hammer to the head, not killing but leaving you permanently retarded.

>>714585424
That's what the dictionary is for.
(Pic related, it's you and life)
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>>714585424
significance, importance, something that directly affects you and what you do.
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>>714585554
both of those experiences have real world consequences and leave a lasting impact on your phyisical self.
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Broke through on DMT once. The rush was so intense i felt like I died, turned into a dolphin and blasted off into space. Met a golden God who taught me how the human race can come together and conquer the stars. Shits Bozz Skaggs.

If the elves tell you to off yourself I'd do it OP
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>>714573307

A voice can belong to many states of being.
A malicious voice might not be worth listening to, a voice from a positive existence would be much more valuable.
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>>714585792
Yeahp that's exactly what I'm saying. Thanks for that.
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>>714585900
so dmt is as powerful as taking a hammer to your head. I think were on the same page here
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>>714585899
well iv heard very positive things about love and life and about death and the act of dying. Its hard to determine malice from benevolence in this case
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>>714575211
obviously it wasn't created out of our grasp because we got there
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>>714584809
Have a good night man.
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>>714585554

I know the definition but with how this thread has gone I didn't know if he meant the general term or if dreams are messages from alternate realities
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>>714586266
Not saying that I agree with it. Thats just what the tribesman said. I cant speak to his logic
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>>714573307
Any psychedelic overwhelmed one with crazy thoughts. It's best to take whatever it shows you with a grain of salt. That said, a small percentage of those crazy thoughts may give you insight that makes sense.
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>>714575027
>olive branch
is peace
>hot clouds
mushroom clouds and radiation
>bear of the east
is Russia, probably Putin himself to be specific

Well your purpose is clear, anon. You must become a diplomat and arrange peace.
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>>714586520
I mean it all makes sense. It all fit perfectly when I was told. But when you come down its very much like trying to recall a dream. The real meaning escapes you
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>>714586520
very cool gif btw.
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>>714573307
OP if you want an actual spiritual experience you aren't gonna get it from your college dorm room cough syrup bullshit dmt. Or acid or shrooms. You need ayahuasca. This my friends is an actual gateway into the heavens. All the answers to all of your questions, fears, anxieties, and hopes live there. It is amazing. A true learning experience.
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>>714586136

I understand. Death while a complete new experience apart from your current life, may not be as beneficial as the voice led you to believe. That was my point I suppose. Life as far as we can understand is the positive side of existence. All matter is weighed and balanced. life offers experiences, death will be patient. Experience death when life has been experienced completely. 70 years may be a single second compared to deaths length. I prefer to experience this as long as possible so i can maximize my understanding of death when it arrives.
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>>714586920
ayahuasca is dmt. same active compound. do some research.
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>>714587001
yes! I think that is what this present experience is all about. Understanding the next part of the journey.
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>>714587155
It's not solely dmt faggot. It's also combined with alkaloids similar to the ones in shrooms. Please take your own advice
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>>714587277
dude the other alkaloids slow the breakdown of dmt in the body making the "trip" last longer than the rocketship of the pure chemical, turning a 10 minute experience into a 4 hour one. Still, the active component of that trip is dmt. Nothing else is giving you visuals
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>>714585899
I had trip very much the opposite to OP's one when on lsa. It took a dark turn where I thought I was trapped in a coma and thought there was no life after this. After making it though 8 hours of bad trip, I feel I appreciate being alive a little bit more.
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>>714573307
This is a realm of imprisonment and slavery. the body is the prison. The biological progamming of instinctive 'self' preservation is the bars. The prisoner is enslaved here on this world.
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>>714587558
take more. The appreciation of life is what I thought the meaning was at first, but theres more after that and it leads to whatever comes next. Sorry im getting real drunk and not making as much sense as i was a few hours ago
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>>714587552
The partial mono oxidase inhibitor taken with the ayahuasca can cause closed eye visuals on its own.
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>>714587943
Fucking this
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>>714587943
maoi's increase the rate of break down of dmt, yes they can have psychoactive effects but they wont produce the dmt experience on their own.
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>>714588117
I think that anons base point is that what you're talking about doing is a party drug and what he's suggesting is something much more personal and spiritual
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>>714588669
dmt is not a party drug. at all. dmt and ayuhuasca are the same goddamn thing. just different ways to experience it
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