Alcohol thread Just tried maker's mark for the first time

File: 151522341146.jpg (26KB, 350x321px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 350x321px

>>714497088
>buying american whiskey

>>714497088
makers mark is shit

>>714497470
>>714497331
Thats why i am here, tell me what is better

>>714497088
Do yourself a favour a make the egg nog recipe from the Makers Mark website. But use half of the bourbon they suggest first time.

>>714497088
If you want a better bourbon, drink Woodford Reserve

File: Pliny the Elder.jpg (239KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

239KB, 1200x1600px

>>714497088
Straight IPA, homie.

Personally I like rebel yell, granted it's burbon whiskey, but I liked it quite a bit more than makers and it's cheaper.

>>714497088
drinking gin rn

File: Screen Shot 2016-12-07 at 11.54.38 PM.png (1MB, 1110x898px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1110x898px

Jameson is the way to go

>>714499151
my nigger

Amaretto Disaronno. No I'm not gay.

>>714499151
Jameson Ginger Ale is my drink of choice.
preferably Canada Dry, but thats just me

File: 2_35.jpg (36KB, 700x700px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 700x700px

"Sailor Jerry's, sure sign of a fucked up night"

File: makers-mark-bottle.png (40KB, 1169x2334px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 1169x2334px

>>714497088
higher priced bourbons i like: pappy van winkle 12 year, pinhook, bulleit 10 year

equal priced to makers: bulleit, bulleit rye, woodford reserve, jim beam black, angels envy

cheap but awesome: old grandad, very old barton, old forester

File: 0mbhH7X.jpg (171KB, 937x960px) Image search: [Google]

171KB, 937x960px

>>714497654
Glenfiddich is pretty good, Glenmorangie would be up your alley.
Don't let these hipsters tell you anything, nothing wrong with bourbon. Woodford Reserve is really good, Bulliet makes a good product. If you can ever find a good Canadian Rye it's well worth the try. Make sure it says it is rye though, most Canadian whiskies are going to corn or barley these days, so make sure it says RYE. Crown Royal Northern Harvest is not bad, Centennial is my favorite, Canadian Club 100% rye is good also. Don't mistake this for regular Canadian Club to be good, it's not. Forty Creeks are all good.

Japanese whiskies are actually really cool and making a lot of noise, the Nikka or Hibiki are both awesome but I don't think you can go wrong with any Japanese whisky.

File: smells_of_a55.gif (1008KB, 320x240px) Image search: [Google]

1008KB, 320x240px

>>714498471
there's overpriced overhyped bourbon, and there's WR

File: Edradour.jpg (231KB, 1400x1790px) Image search: [Google]

231KB, 1400x1790px

>>714497088
look for edradour, scottish single malt.

handmade in scotlands smallest distilley, aged 10 yrs or better more if you can afford

>>714498471
Woodford is gas. Drink Bookers op. $10 and far better. If you wanna keep it cheap get rittenhouse and some bitters

File: Np9vYAw.jpg (375KB, 1200x864px) Image search: [Google]

375KB, 1200x864px

>>714500254
Can't go wrong with the bookers
Don't poo on the woodford tho bruh

>>714497088
Maker's is OK for mixing but not straight up, an Old Fashioned with Maker's is one of my favorite drinks. Try Glennlivet or The Balvenie if you can get your hands on some, shits bomb yo

>>714500384
mah boi

>>714500326
Just sick of it. All I hear is woodford this, bulliet that

File: ec.png (775KB, 667x1000px) Image search: [Google]

775KB, 667x1000px

Elijah Craig is very smooth

>OP here
Thank you gentlmen. my wishlist has grown. I'm basically a virgin when it comes to alcohol, just has never my thing till i found out i love straight whiskey

File: Kd3FPV5.jpg (113KB, 800x572px) Image search: [Google]

113KB, 800x572px

>>714500576
it grows on you, if you ever want to go for a higher bottle, the oban 14 might get you into the more smokey peaty scotchs, or the lagavulin 16

>>714497088
Pretty much any kentucky bourbon is good. I like old crow

ITT: Reddit metrosexuals using alcohol to pretend they're classy adult men instead of manchildren.

>>714501026
not gonna lie, makes me feel good sitting here with my steak and my bourbon with the wife beside me with the kids in bed

>>714500569
I like this shit

>>714500569
that file name

>>714497088
I'm a fan of Eagle rare and knob creek. Maker's didn't set well with me when I had it. If you're looking for more of a "cheap high end" whisky, Gentleman Jack is pretty smooth with little to no burn. I also enjoy Jim Beam Black, their 8 year distilled is really good as well.

>>714500124
I Went from makers mark to Glenfiddich

Love Glenfiddich

Have tried some other whiskys but dont like that smoke flavor some of them have...

can anyone suggest another whiskey that does not have that smokey flavor ?

>>714500576
OP and anyone that enjoys Jameson.. try Powers and thank me later. So fuckin good straight

>>714499510
Pour some of that into your orange juice at breakfast

File: 1395637017398.jpg (438KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]

438KB, 1920x1200px

>>714501026
I work in a liquor store and have taken multiple classes on this shit bruh

>>714501424

My ex drank it, now I don't like it.
Also Im an idiot. Wife material and I ignored her and fucked random girls every week instead of bwing at home getting loved by her.

File: IMG_9004.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3264x2448px

This is my favorite

>>714501894
dude you fucked up... but

you can get another one just as good, dont lock yourself into this bs that she was the best ever..

stop chasing fuck toys and you can get another good one..

all the best bro

If I hate Jim Beam, will I like anything suggested so far?

>>714502034
i used to drink jim beam.. actually drinking it now.. imo Glenfiddich is in another league

>>714502034
Jim beam is like drinking acid

File: 1468652524595.gif (1MB, 480x290px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 480x290px

>>714501424
Just stay away from islays and you'll be fine, try some sherry casks, they'll add a bit of a fruity sweetness, glenmorangie lasanta is good, very intro to scotches.

>>714501902
bro does that have a smokey flavor to it ?

similiar to Glenfiddich ?

>>714502141
Maple is good from them tho

19 year old who drinks socially here

How to get high end whiskey?

>>714502228
Yes. Peat smoke, it is a staple islay whiskey. Very refined, 16 yr

Angel's Envy

>>714497088
I used to drink it for a while, then I got into Bulleit, Blanton's my favorite right now.

OP Here again
i appreciate the quality responses. Jim Beam is my dads choice so i will try the black soon. Everything else will come in time. Thanks gentlemen. I appreciate your time and advice

>>714502463
does all islay whiskey have that peat smoke flavor ?

>>714502228
If you think Glenfiddich is smokey, just you wait.

>>714502228
Not similar to glenfiddich. Most similar to Lagavulin 16, or a Laphroaig 18. It's not the peat bomb you get from a laphroaig 10 though, which can be offputting to people.

File: image.gif (23KB, 600x480px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 600x480px

>>714502632

>>714502632
thankyou broski for an informative and quality thread

>>714497331
A yurofag would know how to cast gay. They've been casting it at each other for thousands of years.

File: Pendleton_375mL.jpg (11KB, 224x344px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 224x344px

Good stuff, not too expensive, but not available everywhere

>>714501902
Have you had the Ardbeg?

File: 1471070575158.png (112KB, 316x400px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 316x400px

>>714502745
Yes, just the way they make it traditionally, some highlands can have smoke too. Honestly just keep getting your feet wet and try them, they'll grow on you undoubtedly.

File: 9f8726c3-143f-4f73-ad42-1eae9324a35f_1.b7753f8a07e18579ccf7a4324ac9db20.jpg (1021KB, 2000x2000px) Image search: [Google]

1021KB, 2000x2000px

I've got just what you need /b/ro
1 shot of this and you'll be in heaven
Cleans the insides pretty good too

>>714502770
>Lagavulin is most similar to Lagavulin
You don't say.

>>714502745
No. but he major ones do. It's a staple of islay Scotland.

Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Ardbeg, etc.

World renowned companies. Look, it's weird at first. First glass I ever had was Laphroaig 10. With ice, did not like the experience. 2 weeks later I tried a Laga 16 neat. Mind was blown, never went back to the highlands and speysides (glenfiddich example)

By the way... imo best bang for ur buck in terms of quality is glenfiddich 15, if you want non-smokey

>>714499982
Pretty much all i drink these days is beer and Sailor Jerry's

File: 2356015.jpg (29KB, 296x362px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 296x362px

forgot pic

>>714502975
Yes. My fav is Ueguidail. Second is Corryvreckan and third is 10. I have bottles of all of them.

Comparable I like laphraig 18 and 10 cask strength.

Peatirst of them all IMO Laphroaig 10.

File: dickelwhite.jpg (219KB, 640x508px) Image search: [Google]

219KB, 640x508px

George Dickel White Corn Whiskey. Fucking delicious and has a kick. Frankly, everything George Dickel makes is amazing and very reasonably priced. My go to liquor right now.

>>714500124
Hibiki is great.

File: r1frAdo.png (368KB, 633x342px) Image search: [Google]

368KB, 633x342px

>>714503221
I think the lagavulin 16 really opens the door to peat.

>>714502023
Thanks. I appreciate that, and you.

>>714503140
Thanks for pointing out my Hurrrr.

Noticed after written, didn't care to fix.

Should've known 4chalms would call me on it.

>>714503105

Had a bottle of Laphroiag a year ago and I agree, though my wife would complain of the smell from three rooms away the moment I uncorked it.

Drinking Buffalo trace now

>>714499982
It's so delicious. I love Rum so much. Drink it straight, mix it with Cherry Coke, whatever. It's the drink that makes me feel better.

>>714503659
Lost hard.

Thanks anon, needed that one.

>>714497088

makers mark is fucking horrible

>>714497088
orange m&m
shot of makers mark and a large glass of blue moon with a slice of orange

>>714497088
Orphan barrel, nigger. Thank me later. If you're doing manhattans or old fashioned's, michters rye if you like a little spice, e.h. Taylor if you like smooth. Pappys I'd always quality, but look for a 20 year if you want good pappys.

>>714503874
so i have gathered. As i said preciously, i am really a virgin to liquor other than Jack Daniels and Jim Beam Devil's Cut (which i enjoyed as well)

>>714497088
IDK where the fuck you are from, but MM costs $47.00 a fifth here..... Fuck taxees!

File: image.png (576KB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

576KB, 750x1334px

So not a big football fan but hit up Notre Dame for hype energy n views. INwhiskey is there giving samples in town. Good lord best whiskey I have ever had. You won't regret it. It's slightly hard to get as you need to actually be there but $30 and it's like Jesus himself made it.

>>714501902
Cheers, that's my go-to scotch as well. I like to explore the options, but I always come home

File: aberlour.jpg (158KB, 540x720px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 540x720px

This has been my favorite for a while.

>>714497088
Knob Creek's Straight Bourbon

Best whiskey I've ever had. Aged 9 years and bursting with that beloved whiskey flavor.

File: Four_RosesLimited_Edition_Small_Batch.jpg (1MB, 1704x3132px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1704x3132px

>>714497088

>>714504023
im house sitting for a rich family not far from where i work, they have a ton of wine and vodka which ive never really liked, but this was the only whiskey i found and i knew i like whiskey more than anything else they had

>>714501424

Try some American whiskey's. Pappy Van Winkle, Eagle Rare, Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve are all quality bourbons (charred oak barrel aged, at least 2 years). I like Tennessee style better which includes Jack Daniel's (my first drink and still in my top ten), and George Dickel which is an up and coming label that I've taken a real shine to. Tennessee style mellows the whiskey through sugar maple charcoal, which imparts a sweet/sour current on it that I personally love.

File: 7814fdf01e505aaa304858e90f646538.jpg (119KB, 1024x1225px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 1024x1225px

>>714503874
horrible? c'mon. get over yourself

File: tmp_13330-static1.squarespace.com1814560460.png (47KB, 194x556px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 194x556px

>>714497088
Not a big fan of whiskey, but I do like me some rum.

>>714503796

are you me?

File: Snapchat-6185373982976164918.jpg (718KB, 1080x1920px) Image search: [Google]

718KB, 1080x1920px

Plebs

File: milagro-001-590x392.jpg (21KB, 590x392px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 590x392px

Best tequila

>>714504291
thats my boy

>>714504079
Same.

I venture out, last bottle I got was Hibiki 12. Phenomenal dram. Went right back to Laga after. It's great, but I know who I am.

>>714497088
Single malt scotch is better than bourbon imo.

Look for Laphroaig. It's cheap ($30ish) and probably one of the most interesting whiskies around. But it's kind of smokey and not e ergo e likes it.

If you want a nice, smooth, normie scotch then you should try Macallan 12.

>>714504174

It is a goddamn good and honest bourbon, I do not disagree.

>>714504401
Not everyone*

>>714504291
If i had that much hooch i wouldn't be sober long enough to be able afford that much hooch.

I'm not a pleb, i'm just not at that sort of level in my life yet.

Once i hit 50, i'll probably have a collection like that, and be blind drunk pretty much constantly.

>>714504206
thankyou for the info bro

>>714504401
Your so full of shit. It's over $50.00 a fifth, Wshington fag here.

>>714504291
How's the glenfarclas 15? I've heard good things.

I'm Islam guy.

File: she's music.png (198KB, 1483x555px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 1483x555px

>>714504278

I wouldn't wish that on you, because if I'm you then you're me. I've been holding off on drinking for a long while because I'm heartbroken and constantly either in a huge upswing or downswing; my emotions are destructive enough as they are, without alcohol.

But I'm craving a heavy drunk, and want to make it fun. So soon it's gonna be Rum time again.

>>714504575
Sucks for you. I buy it at Costco for like $27. Phoenix.

>>714504478

Setting achievable goals is step 1, anon. Godspeed and good drinking.

>>714504478
Don't worry I was kidding. My home collection is fairly week. I took this last July when me and my brother were staying at a Scottish bed and breakfast. The whisky bar is the only reason we went, and we spent an entire week drinking like lords.

>>714502450

fart into your bare hands then smell them.

should do the trick

Dewars 12 and Laphroaig 18 are my two favorites

>>714503105
Not all islays but most. Bruichladdich and Bunnahabhain are famously unpeated.
>source: professional whiskyfag

>>714504650

sounds like you're me

>>714503221
This guy knows what he's talking about. Glenfiddich is looked down upon by whisky snobs but the 15 year old is fantastic for the price. It's ubiquitous for a reason, I'm this case.

File: 5-throwing_up.jpg (45KB, 654x437px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 654x437px

>>714497088
>american piss

>>714504172
Try A'Bunadh

JWB is my fave easily

File: a89e4ca722ccb80a3f68cd0de59cc2ae.jpg (274KB, 2372x1334px) Image search: [Google]

274KB, 2372x1334px

>>714505465
trying my best lol, too much to learn

File: ugly-european.jpg (44KB, 320x321px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 320x321px

>>714505840

>>714505465
>Professional faggot you mean

What about port charlotte or octomore (the highest phenol content in the world)? I think Jim McEwan would disagree about the unpeated part

>>714497088
Makers mark is garbage u faggot

>>714506200
then give me your recommendation

Buffalo trace is a good affordable drink

File: fetty-wap-wants-paternity-test.jpg (46KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 300x300px

>>714505840
>>714506200
Hipster drinking 101

File: knob creek.jpg (49KB, 650x650px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 650x650px

Knob Creek is the shit.

Im drinking Vodka and kahlua

>>714506193
What about them? The core expression from bunnahabhain is and always has been unpeated. There's a reason it's called a classic laddie.

>>714506931
Bruichladdich

drinking svedka vodka now cause its all we have in this fucking house and im far to sober right now. But Jameson is my shit

>>714500082
Bulleit master whiskey

File: 3897.jpg (25KB, 190x286px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 190x286px

>>714497088
Glenrothes select reserve is an awesome choice.

>>714497331
Japanese owned faggot just like jim beam

File: hlpob.12yov8.jpg (127KB, 540x720px) Image search: [Google]

127KB, 540x720px

Highland Park 12 is my go to Scotch whisky. A fine, balanced whisky that isn't too this or that. I like Powers Irish whiskey, Bulleit bourbon and rye.

>>714502632
To me makers mark and Jim beam almost taste the same

File: 1467794138820.webm (352KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

352KB, 480x480px

>>714499151
Fuck yeah man.
Sippin' Jameson and Gingerale right now.

Picture unrelated.

>>714497088
Whiskey, Bourbon or...

Fuck you, drink cask strength first and then go deeper you summerfag whimpy douchefagcock idiot testicle fucker.

Yes, you are so pathetic you prefer to fuck the folds of the wrinkles of a testicle.

Seriously, this is just bait.

>>714499151
Drink fucking Lephroig ya pansy ass motherfucker.

>>714500549
>li
Elijah Craig old form is blended to fuck.

Though the 12 and 15 year are pretty damn decent.

File: download.jpg (6KB, 193x261px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 193x261px

theres only one type of good whiskey an hats my good friend jack

>>714499982
its crap, but will get you fucked up.

Expensive but worth it? The XO, and Diplomatico

>>714506832
Only 120. Anything else is fucking garbage that should be thrown out to make molotov cocktails.

>>714505316
You sir have good taste.

Also, Ever had Sou Illa? Not sure I spelled that right.

Favorites to mix
>jack
>forty creek
>crown royal
Straight
>Jameson
>glenlivet
>chivas regal
>jack single barrel

Pretty basic but yeah

File: 20110218oldcrowstory.jpg (39KB, 500x413px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 500x413px

No Old Crow?

>>714504291
Hmmm, nice setup, but one downside. Displaying it like that degrades the whiskeys faster, less than 2 years and they'll no longer be as nice..
>>714504641
Awesome, most muslims that drink usually know more about booze than most anyone. Hell, before the americans fucked it all up, Iran was known for making incredible red wines, but then they threw out the democratic government because it went a little communist because they didn't want to be america's bitch.

Can you blame em for burning down the capitalist pig sow's preferred entertainment while raping their kids?

>>714506931
>>714506976
And love both of em almost as much as Lephroig...goddamnit, I keep mispelling scotch tonight...

>>714498671
Would a chokeful of volcanic ash go well with that?

File: download.jpg (9KB, 183x275px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 183x275px

/thread

File: penderyn.jpg (80KB, 540x720px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 540x720px

My favorite one

>>714504276
Should try their pinapple rhum, it's quite worth it.

>>714509571
THE RYE BITCH!!!

>>714497088
i like it.

>>714497088
Been drinking crown royal green apple shit gets me fucked up as I am right now lol

File: Murder.jpg (60KB, 640x960px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 640x960px

>>714497088
>bourbon
Please kill yourself.

File: IMG_1349.jpg (21KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 250x250px

>>714511817
Mfw this

Glenlivett is best affordable whiskey, take it from a Scotsman

File: IMG_0958.gif (432KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

432KB, 500x281px

>>714500124
You mean grocery store whiskey? Fucking pleb

>>714497088
my fucking god you think makers is good? you fucking sicken me. i work at a liquor store and thats the kind of shit i pity. get some decent bourbon that nobodies heard of, all the shit people can name off at the top of their heads is overpriced trash. find some shit made locally, thats how you get the good shit.

File: IMG_1420.png (514KB, 393x1198px) Image search: [Google]

514KB, 393x1198px

This one is my favorite
My number 2 bottle. Around 50$ per bottle
Suntory whiskey is my number 1

>>714498387
2 fucking dozen eggs? screw yourself assassin

are you trolling mate? literal overpriced shit tier. many many better things for less or slightly more but within 10 dollar difference. pretty sure these are all under $40

>eagle rare
>buffalo trace
>bulleit
>evan williams
>four roses or four roses small batch
>colonel EH Taylor
>knob creek
>weller
then theres my personal fav for the price basil haydens which is usually around 45-50

File: tmp_5838-1480017663727-619175204.jpg (105KB, 720x540px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 720x540px

Maker's Mark is my favorite. When it comes to every day drinking. In before stop liking what I don't like. Some of my friends like Jamison. I'm not a big Irish whisky fan. Not bad. But not grate. Bookers is good if you like maker's mark. Billet rye is good if your a rye fan. How are you drinking it?

>>714512901
go to bed m ike

>>714497088
What other whiskeys have you tried? Jack Daniels? Some shit in a plastic bottle? Because Maker's Mark is fucking terrible.

>>714503874
You remind me of my financial colleagues who can't eat at mcdonalds anymore because we occasionally eat at Michelin restaurants.

McDonald's is low tier in quality and price, but there is nothing wrong with thinking there are things to be enjoyed from all ranges.

McDonald's is awesome! Tastes like fat and sugar, Michelin restaurants are also awesome, and so is makers mark.

Perhaps you truly do not like the taste, but I find that hard to believe, because you made a point to strongly discourage it.

Why feel such a strong need to distance yourself from low-tier, unless you fear that is actually where you belong?

>>714497088
I like Maker's Mark, too. Also Rebel Yell and Wild Turkey 86°.

>>714497088
any scotch. seriously, American whiskeys are usually quite flavorless.

>>714504291
Haha you're the pleb brah! ;) I count lots of opened bottles amongst them, and either you are ruining all your alcohol or you are drinking all of those up in less then a year which makes you a raging alcoholic :p

>>714513645
>American whiskeys are usually quite flavorless.
You're probably thinking of Canadian whiskies. Bourbon is anything but flavorless.

>>714497088
Blanton's Single Barrel
90 proof
Very smooth

>>714513645
Theres a difference between whiskey and bourbon. plain whiskey like jack or Canadian whiskeys are flavorless, but bourbon is anything but

>>714513777
good stuff but quite a bit higher pprice than makers

>>714513435
it's not so much that I'm opposed to drinking cheap liquor... it's that OP said Maker's Mark is the best whiskey he's ever had.

I'll drink maker's mark and eat mcdonalds, no problem - they both get the job done, but I won't pretend it isn't garbage

File: THE KRAKEN_70CL_WHITE BACKGROUND.jpg (86KB, 440x930px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 440x930px

>>714497088
If you're into rum I suggest some of this:

>>714513740
no, I'm thinking of American bourbons and whiskeys. of all that I have had, the nose is always quite similar. maybe the mid and finish can differ, but that's about it. honestly, I personally prefer a scotch sincerely because of how it smells and feels. it usually doesn't quite kick in with the burn until the initial swallow or finish. American whiskeys have usually been the opposite for me. have I had all of them? no, but I've had a few samplings all over the price range of both.

>>714498990
Bullitt Jameson or jack.. makers is meh not bad but not my go to

>>714497088
tsr

High West rye

>>714509571
Hey look the first pic with the right glass.

>>714512548
It's a huge recipe, so feel free to scale it down to a manageable size.

>>714513932
Logically it may well be the best whisky he's ever had!

And yeah you are right it is crap, but it is good tasting crap :) so I can see how OP likes it!

File: 2154-182box.jpg (100KB, 800x1204px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 800x1204px

>>714497088
Are you serious

>>714513932
I wouldn't say it's garbage, it's overpriced middle of the road bourbon.

File: 1480812444981.jpg (36KB, 493x402px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 493x402px

>>714500124
>rye

Kill yourself.

>>714497088
Try a buichladich,a nice full body,medim legs and a good peaty taste with overturns of vanilla,oak,and chocolate

File: lWPdJ.png (90KB, 318x235px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 318x235px

>>714501902

shit yeah

File: Redbreast-Irish-Whiskey-Single-Pot-Still-Review.jpg (69KB, 1200x630px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 1200x630px

Red Breast Irish Whiskey

File: 1477623204598.gif (1MB, 320x261px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 320x261px

>>714504291
>closed distilleries
Holy shit

>>714508936
>Hell, before the americans fucked it all up, Iran was known for making incredible red wines
It's funny, the total ban on Muslims drinking is a recent thing historically speaking. For instance Arak was developed by Muslims and there are parts of Muslim scriptures that seem to have Muhammed drinking. It's only within the last few hundred years that alcohol acquired any sort of taboo in Islam.

>>714511817
The fuck is wrong with bourbon?

Bulliet rye is the 1