How are you liberals feeling after the election? I'm not

>>714304484
libfag here. was delegate for bernie sanders. I'm glad trump got us out of tpp, and some of his other decisions ill like. but in general, im going to be fighting against his other policies that i don't like.
basically what i do with every other politician.

A gift for the libs and Hillshills <3
https://webmshare.com/play/0rKBd

>give this dude a chance
Reasonable enough, but not very political

>You do realize noone really cares of your "racism" or "sexism, or "xenophobia" anymore, right? It's old, and people don't give a shit anymore.
Uh, I hope you mean 'his' "racism", "sexism", and "xenophobia", which just because it's your opinion doesn't make it fact, there's still plenty of people that still give a shit

>So, after this landslide
uh, do you actually believe him when he says there was like 3 million cases of voter fraud?

>>714304743
also this, this is how politics work, we elected a president not emperor

>>714304975
Is that Ted Cruz?

>>714306000
Trips confirm special little snowflake fagboi

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>>714306000
>there's still plenty of people that still give a shit
No one of consequence.
Sorry, all your gender studies degree-possessing friends don't mean shit to this world. Your going to college doesn't mean shit to this world: some 67 million college graduates every year, you're a drop in a sea of mediocrity. If you were smart, you'd have gone into a trade skill instead of impractical academia.

>pic related

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>>714304484
How do you Alt-rght feel after the election?

>>714306000
infant

>>714306000
inafter the usual stereotypes for libs that literally retarded alt right morons like to spout.

>>714304743
do you like all bernies policies? also did you hear him talking about reading the "secret codes" in trumps tweets?

>>714306218
trump putting right wing into power.

im happy. how are you libfag?

>>714306000
>waah i hate trump

>>714306287
Cry harder bitch nigga

>>714306218
He could hire Nancy Pelosi and we'd still be happier than you, losers! Oh, the tears or so delicious!

>>714306287
shove that safety pin up your ass, comrade

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Drain the swamp.....straight into your presidential cabinet.

that how i feel OP. i feel real good anout him winning. maybe americunt will finally make the wrong friends, or make the right people angry, and they'll try and wipe this pus-filled nation off the planet. wether we win or lose doesn't matter. wether we live or die (i'm and american) doesn't either. because it will have finally begun.

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>>714306349
Treasury secretary (((Mnuchin))) is the right wing? He's a Yale-educated elitist. And now owns your debt.

(((Mnuchin))), the son of a Goldman Sachs partner, joined the firm after graduating from Yale University. He worked there for 17 years, rising to oversee trading in government securities and mortgage bonds.

>>714306476
>comrade

haha a russian trump supporter no doubt. how long have you been trying to sway the election?

>>714306440
Not crying at all. Just laughing at your level of stupidity.

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>>714304484
Say goodby to your moma's medicare

>>714306655
called you comrade because youre a communist, because of all your radical left viewpoints.

if you didnt understand that, youre either a moron or the worst troll ive ever seen, and this is on 4chan.

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>>714306729
Trump supporters were takeing him seriously, not literally. Too bad.

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Some people seem to be having second thoughts.

>>714306655
No you're crying pretty hard and it's hilarious. The world has finally seen how spineless and worthless you people are. Fortunately for you /b/ has become a safe space for you fart sniffing hand holding cum guzzling liberal faggits. I didn't even vote trump either

>>714306773
>Implying i'm radical or even that far left.

You don't know anything about me, if anyone is the troll its literal morons like you who spread fake news and propaganda. No doubt you've spent half your time discussing pizzagate and the usual autistic shit.

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Palin's a RINO. Or something.

I don't have any problems with that, he's still economically liberal, while the social justice issues had always been irrelevant for me.

>>714304484
>landslide,

I don't thik you know what a landslide is.

FDR got landslides.

Trump got fewer votes than the last two Republican losers..

>>714307129
>Protectionism is liberal
4chan political analysis

>>714306964
Oh look at the dummy and laugh. You clearly have focused on the win and only the win of your party. What has gone down since then should be making you shit and cry your pants.

More liberal tears please, im really thirsty.

>>714304484
I admit, it's been entertaining watching this circus play out the last few weeks. It's gonna get old pretty soon though, and I'm willing to bet even die-hard trumpfags will change their tune before his 4 years are up.

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She wrote a book called "In Trump we trust"

>>714307279
no, you're pathetic.

>>714307147
he won 98.2% of counties in the US that seems pretty definitive

>>714304484
>how do liberals feel?
>I'll tell you how liberals feel
>and now I'll tell you liberals what to do with your feelings.

trolls used to be better. make trolls great again.

>>714307194
Should I really care about the foreign capital?

>>714307044
you came out insulting the right and the alt right to the point where you couldnt identify with any of their beliefs.Independents are independents because they have beliefs on both sides, so obviously youre a liberal, and a strong enough one to comment on this page meaning you have radical view points. Just because you didn't implicitly say what your opinions we're doesn't mean we can't extrapolate what your inner most thoughts are. Sit down, comrade, you lost the election. Take your L with dignity.

>>714307379
but lost the popular vote

>>714307359
mmm, thanks, they taste really good, got anymore???

>>714304484
feeling sad that the world will shortly be in the hands of the greatest collection of thieves and liars ever to inhabit the White house.

Trump is so corrupt and crooked he make Nixon look decent. His team is a bunch of republican prvatise and steal what you can merchants, and his tax policy is Trickledown without even claiming it will trickle down. just tax break for rixh because they deserve more money, and spend the tax dollars from the poor and borrow more to buy votes with programs he does not have the money to pay for.

don't worry, the Democrats will sort out the economy next time, like they always do.

But worst of all Climate change deniers who are professional liars paid by big oil and coal are now going to have power, and fuck the environment.

thanks.

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A surprising number of Trump voters do not know that Medicare is socialism.

>>714307463
but he won the election with 98.2% of US counties, popular vote does not decide the election
>this is basic information btw

>>714307418
When it guts your trade and economy, yes.

>>714307475
I'm not a liberal. this tears of the other side shit is the lowest form form of trolling. Try harder, you worthless 12 year old piece of shit. I'm not entertained.

>>714307491
Yum, your tears taste delicious!

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If he had released his tax returns, I'd feel better about him.

>>714307241
My party didn't win I just think it's hilarious how obviously bothered by the results you leftist retards are acting. It's sad that you don't see how pathetic you people look

>>714307555
yawn. shit troll.

>>714307561
They're coming out pretty salty now, fine with me, thanks for the tears.

I was never that concerned about the sexism, racism, or xenophobia. I didn't want Trump because I think he will promote economic policy that benefits himself and people like him, and also his authoritarian tendencies. So yeah, still burned about that. He had a chance with Carrier but he needs to do what he says. Man the fuck up and keep 100% of those jobs, not half and then give massive tax cuts. That's a bad deal, Donald.

>>714307379
No, that's "fake news"

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

>>714307491
yeah, because humans definitely have the ability to stop "climate change". Even if the United states became completely compliant with all your ridiculous requirements, good luck telling all those countries in asia that have a gigantic population dedicated only to manufacturing that they should get in line and cut it out. Get over it moron, theres nothing you or this country can do, even if there was such a thing as climate change. Christ, do you think the world is an episode of Full House?

>>714307601
>statistical facts are trolling
this is what people really think lol

>>714307555
see
>>714307666

>>714307666
lol but didn't you hear that trumpster on the news? Facts are just what people believe now.

>>714307710
They are when imaginary

>>714307736
'Tis true. Just keep googling til you find something you can agree with. From Macedonia

>>714307666
nah snopes is a russian operative i don't know how statistical facts can be "fake news" unless you are going to disprove math!

>>714306176
>No one of consequence.
just 50% of the voters and about the same of the non voters, so that makes half the population.

but you are not fond of democracy are you, so you think that they are of no consequence.

this is the typical "alt right" - lets call it what it is - Neo Nazi - mindset. Win at any cost, truth is not important once we get power we can do anything we want and fuck the rest of you.

this arrogance will destroy you.

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>>714304484

> You do realize noone really cares of your "racism" or "sexism, or "xenophobia" anymore, right? It's old, and people don't give a shit anymore.

There's are reasons that liberals don't like conservatives. As a moderate I dislike Trump because he seems to know nothing about world politics or care about anyone but himself.

>>714304484
I just got done reading this exact same thread.

Pasta getting stale m8

>>714306000
Actually it was probably closer to 7 million cases or voter fraud.

>>714307427
That's a whole lot of explanation for telling me how dumb you are. But okay. lmao

>>714307934
I hear they don't like being called White Nationalists.

>>714304743
did you vote for Hillary though?

>>714308023
well, i don't know that russia was THAT involved. but maybe.

>>714307868
Snopes is a fat guy from Cal State Northridge who's been writing on urban legends since the mid-nineties, which is before you were born.

>>714308023

There has never been a million fraud votes in America. You don't just get to make things up.

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>>714308028
that definitely refutes my claim in every way, just call me an idiot, i bet theres no logical fallacy behind that argument

>>714307961
Because if you say the same buzz words over and over again it makes them true right?

>>714307934
only left side tells truth like when the DNC chairs cheated twice, like when every news outlet shilled and made up fake predictions that were laughably wrong

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>>714308136
Facts are just whatever people believe now! Which is why chemtrails and flat earthers are able to get mainstream attention nowadays. sad

>>714308023
Trump won by far less than three million votes. If there were seven million fraudulent votes, why should we believe he won? If those fraud votes were for him (and there is NO evidence that they were not for Trump) than he didn't win, did he?

>>714308158
>I have a black belt degree in bullshit on hurrdurr 4chan

Congrats on exposing exactly what you are, low quality b8.

>>714307279
stale pasta

how about something original; (like calling people cuck or telling them that Hillary will be dead before the election she is so ill)

>>714308312
more ad hominem, no actual arguments. Jesus christ, what are you 13?

>>714306176
That's a lot of assuming you're doing there cucklord
>not in college
>actually did go to trade school
>have a decent job
>voted trump over Hilary
But hey you know it all friend, everything I said clearly doesn't stand now because your flawless argument

>>714308230
But. but, chemtrails are real, infowars had a whole article on it.

>>714308023
>>714308279
Remember, there is NO EVIDENCE that the SEVEN MILLION FRAUDULENT VOTES were for SHILLERY! THEY WERE FRAUD VOTES FOR TRUMP! TRUMP LOST!@

>>714308112
ok if you would like you can disprove math and statistics for me that would be great
>lots of sjws believe this

lets get rid of science too!

https://www.google.com/amp/heatst.com/culture-wars/university-of-cape-town-student-leader-wants-to-scrap-science-because-its-racist-oppressive/amp/

>>714307961
That's what I find baffling (among other things) in this election. The president's largest influence is in foreign policy. Even if you think Clinton is a corrupt criminal or whatever she is still very experienced expecially on the foreign affairs front. On the other hand Trump doesn't know what the South China Sea conflict is. I suppose we'll see how much the civil service and other political advisors are able to cram into Trump in the little time he has before presidency.

>>714307306
>we did it
>it's not our fault

Holy shit, the denial runs deep.

>>714308176

I didn't use any 'buzz words.' The dumb stuff that comes out of the mans mouth is laughable.

>>714308230

Yeah facts don't seem to matter. A million votes would be the biggest criminal case in American history and they're talking seven million.

>>714307044
b-b-but you said meanie things about daddy Twump :'c

>>714308384
>my favorite buzzwords from /pol/
>ad hominem
>strawman
>logical fallacy

Nah, you're the obvious 50 yo with a mind of a 13 yo retard. You should leave your mommas basement sometime friendo.

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>>714304484
I'm fine. How are you?

>>714307569
Sorry gayboy but the only salty fluid I have emitted in the last 24 hours is semen - I know you just love sucking that up, but you can't have mine.

>>714308023
>just for that, the voter fraud just increased by five million

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>>714308609
lol

>>714307710
if they were facts, maybe. But since they are fake news, it is trolling.

>>714307693
weak, defeatist attitude

this is why you will go nowhere in life

"we cant stop it so we should do nothing"

is untrue.

>>714309000
what could we possibly do to stop it then?

>>714307736
Nope.

Post truth is just a euphemism for "lying shit"

anyone selling you "post truth" is a lying shit trying to fool you and steal from you.

there is no such thing as "post truth"

truth matters

>>714308900
>statistics and math are fake news
>math is rayciss statistics is prejudace
>lets get rid of science it's not progressive enough
>https://www.google.com/amp/heatst.com/culture-wars/university-of-cape-town-student-leader-wants-to-scrap-science-because-its-racist-oppressive/amp/

>>714307868
nice b8 m8

now fuck off

>>714309176
>math is bait
>statistics are fake news
>i'm too progressive for science
fucking sjws man

>>714304484
This is the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

>>714309070
we cant stop it completely, but we can change how we produce energy. change emissions requirements. flex military muscle to ensure outher countries do their share to protect our planet. start programs to encourage local small scale high yield agriculture (like the homestead act) to reduce waste and transportation impacy for food systems. there are a million improvements we could make. the public discourse is dictated by people with other motives though, and crafted to appease niggerbrains like you.

the world will change more in the mext 100 years than it did in the previous 100 years (climate, culture, technology, everything).

there are people all over the world doing things that wouldnt even enter the realm of possibility of a human 100 years ago. that trend will continue.

>>714308176
well, Trump and his crew are sexist and anti feminist - Bannon is famously so.

Xenophobic - well he played on that with his anti muslim and anti mexican shit. he might not be, but he played that tune.

homophobic - Pence. do I need to say more?

so no it isn't just saying the buzzwords (like calling hillary "crooked hillary" or Lying Ted Cruz" - lies that Trump repeated int eh Big Lie fashion and his crowd believed) it is telling the truth.

but Republicans don't bother with things like truth anymore.

because they are thieving bastards who will fuck you over for a dollar for the next four years

>>714309323
>post truth
>beliefs matter more
>what is journalistic integrity
fucking alt Nazis man

>>714309611
yea but democrats tell the truth come on lmao both sides lie a fuck ton

>>714308195
>DNC chairs cheated twice

what? you need to be more specific. what are you talking about?

as forthe made up predictions - all predictions are made up. the Polling guys got it wrong - or rather, they were probably fairly right at the time, but the polls swang int he last few days, probably because of the FBI illegal interference and also the turnout was lower than expected - probably because the polls had suggested it was a walk in for her so democrats didn't turn ut

a sort of self unfulfilling prophecy.

but don't worry, you will eventually learn the difference between mistakes and lies. You voting for trump was a mistake. Everything he says, is lies.

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>>714309424

>>714306349
The right has at least two camps whose ideologies are incompatible. One is for saving jobs and helping the middle class while the other is about helping big business with the repeatedly failed supply-side economic policies (see Kansas for how well that works out).

The left has a similar incompatibility problem too.

>>714309836
yea i didn't vote for trump but don't act like one side is so holier than though when both parties are complete dogshit

>>714308431
>you can disprove math and statistics for me that would be great

you are a special type of stupid aren't you.

we are not saying maths and statistics are all wrong - just your figures. they are false.

we want to keep good math and real statistics and real science - it is the Trumpers of the world who want to throw science out - creationists, and Global Warming deniers - they are the anti science idiots.

>>714307583
It's no different than the conservative tears for at least six of the last eight years. People focus on the win and enjoying the butt pain on the other side, while the country gets further hijacked.

>>714308465
>we'll see how much the civil service and other political advisors are able to cram into Trump in the little time he has before presidency.

very little.

he does not listen to anyone, arrogant to the core.

>>714310041
>math doesn't exist
>science doesn't exist
>you are the dumb one though
yea ok my bad

>>714310132
casual observer opinion, you are losing the argument and getting butthurt

>>714310220
>we are disputing the existence of math
>we are winning the argument
ya sorry

>>714310132
I don't think your reading comprehension is the best, friendo

>>714310332
>we don't believe in math or statistical facts
>we are more intelligent than you
sure kid

Left as all fuck here. Honestly, I'm unbelievably disappointed about his plans to completely undo a great deal of the progress we made toward getting free of using fossil fuels... I always felt that we have the tech to stop depending on oil, and with plans in place we could get there someday... Now he's going to set us back a decade or four. Not because of climate change or the environment, just so we could stop having a reason to do anything in the Middle East. I'm tired of us making excuses to drop an insane amount of money to set up shop out there.

Worried about health insurance, but also curious what his plan is... Because Obamacare fucking blows.

The one thing I am secretly hoping is some reform to some of the social programs like welfare/section 8/etc. Democrats wouldn't touch them because it would be political suicide, but they need to be changed... They are getting exploited, and it's frustrating me. I want people to be able to get help when they stumble, but not kick back and relax watching their 70 inch flatscreen and playing on their iPhone while getting a voucher for $2k for rent and a check for everything else while not contributing to the workforce.

>>714310301
see
>>714310332

you keep saying that he doesnt believe in math, but its not true, not what he said

the cornered dog lashes out with stupid rebuttals - zen koan

>>714307693

fuck, didn't spot i had hit caps lock til the end... sorry ..

WELL, THE POINT IS THAT ALL THOSE COUNTRIES IN ASIA WERE FALLING IN LINE BECAUSE THE us WAS LEADING. BUT DON'T LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR SHILLING FOR BIG OIL AND COAL.

OH YES, AND DON'T LET REAL SCIENCE AND REAL FACTS GET INT HE WAY OF YOUR DENIALISM.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, AND SADLY, YOU NAY BE RIGHT. IT MAY BE TOO LATE. BUT IF WE DON'T TRY THEN WE ARE ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY FUCKED.

SO WE SHOULD TRY.

AND WE CAN MAKE A GREAT ECONOMY BASED ON GREEN MANUFACTURING.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE IN TOT HE VESTED INTERESTS THAT ARE SELLING YOUR FUTURE FOR THEIR PROFITS.

>>714310647
>statistical mathematical facts don't matter or exist
>dumb quote to prove my superiority

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>>714304484
I WANT MY FUCKING WEALTH BACK U CUCK

>>714309081
>>statistics and math are fake news
did not say that.

said that the statistics you are quoting are fake.

>>714309323
>>math is bait

no people pretending that they have put up real numbers is bait.

>>714311046
which statistics did i say i was quoting
>math doesn't exist xd

All you dumb fucks arguing about countries now. Why not argue over how many boxes of cereal they had in their house?

Population density matters.

He's not getting a chance from me. He's the new president regardless. He's just a figurehead. The real power is in The House.
The Speaker of the House and Majority Leader will be running the show.
Trump will be their scape goat when shit hits the fan.

>>714311195
>secretly retarded
>I'm only pretending

You tipped your hand.

>>714309801
that does not really matter , because they lost - you are happy to put a man who has not merely lied tot he American people (as they kept saying about Hillary as if it was a capital crime) but tells lies all the time.

just makes shit up

as well as threatening unconstitutional action

and dodging tax, bribing officials, theft, rape (his ex wife says so) and general being a fucking greedy bastard.

and then look at his cabinet picks - liars, thieves and bastards.


corrupt to the core

>>714311342
>doesn't believe in math
>still thinks they are superior
nice

>>714306075
Canadian PM you dickless mongrel

>>714311385
He lied his way into the White House. Nothing new.

>>714311385
obama has done many unconstitutional things while pres
>daca
>nsa spying scandal
>iran deal

wealth increases 500% while in office

stop pretending like liberal politicians are saints all politicians are bad

>>714311541
Still in this dogshit thread saying the same nonsense
cucked

Oh well, now that I've reached the bottom of this thread I's finally be free

>>714306466
Or so delicious? Another brainless idiot here that can't take 1 second to double check his sad attempt to put words together to make sure they are correct. This country needs a purge.

>>714309952
I am not - the difference is dogshit that denies climate change to make money and dogshit that will try to save the planet...

>>714311959
which dogshit will try to save the planet exactly?

>>714310132
>>>714310041 (You)
>>math doesn't exist
>>science doesn't exist

ok, in small words.

i did not say this.

the numbers you quoted are lies.

>>714312107
Not him, green party.

Half of them may be insane, but they oppose the tpp and their entire party is about saving the planet.>>714312107

>>714306773
Calling someone a moron is very ironic coming from you since you seem incapable of being able to use an apostrophe when forming a contraction. I'm guessing you never finished school because the big words made your brain hurt. Also ironic because you seem to be lacking a brain.

>>714310582
>>we don't believe in math or statistical facts
could you quote where he said that, not just your made up interpretation?

>>714312229
yes i believe that, still a dogshit party though all they don't seem to have a firm grasp on how the economy works. i don't know they could do more harm than good, even while attempting to do the right thing

>>714312193
math is real man you should try believing :)

>>714311195
>but he won the election with 98.2% of US counties,

which is false.

the real statistics also exist , but this statistic is false.

and I never said anything about maths.

but keep making shit up and misquoting and failing to read english.

>>714312344
We live in post truth times. It's minus good to argue with beliefs because God is stronger than facts or fat cat scientists living in literal towers made of ivory giving mandates to the masses.

We put our trust in people who talk with someone nobody but the insane can see or hear.

>>714309516
>flex military muscle to ensure outher countries do their share to protect our planet

Let me get this straight. Lets assume country A has a lot of fossil fuels and none to almost non-existential renewable energy production. Up to this point their main energy production method was burning fossil fuels(high emission). You want that country to either invest a shitton of money in renewable energy or import the energy and ignore their natural resources. All that under military pressure?

That's ridiculous.

>>714311741
but threatening to direct prosecutors to prosecute, to deprivve citizens of citizenship, to directly contravene supreme court rulings on free speech, to prosecute newspapers who told the truth - these are not the actions of a democratic president. they are dictatorship moves.

his meeting witht eh heads of newspapers and tv channels where he told them all they were liars and a disgrace - that alone should have him locked away and certainly not given the office.

>>714312107
Democrats. obviously. Republicans have for years been trying to burn it down, the Democrats have kept them in check, but now - a climate change denier in teh EPA transition team adn Interior ministry - professional lobbyists for the Oil and Coal industry that have spent years spreading lies about climate change...

If Gore had been confirmed as the winner in 2000 the world would be in a lot better shape - now it may be too late - in four years it will be too late unless we are very lucky indeed.

>>714312580
two plus two equals five. I love Big Brother.

>>714304484
>How are you liberals feeling after the election?

I'm feeling alright, thank you for asking. A bit jaded by the endless political troll threads on /b/ but apart from that I can't complain

>Maybe, instead of bitching and crying, give this dude a chance?

Like the right did to Obama? I suppose we should now spend 8 years pretending Trump is actually a kenyan and then change our minds at the last minute? No, I jest of course. Of course I will give the trumpster a chance. I mean, he is now inheriting a stable economy and the lowest unemployment rate for the last 9 years. As long as he doesn't do anything too crazy like startign a trade war with china then the economy should be fine.

>You do realize noone really cares of your "racism" or "sexism, or "xenophobia" anymore

Well, blacks care about racism because there is evidence for widespread institutional racism that occasionally causes the death of innocent black people but apart fromt hat, you would be correct. As a white guy racism doesn't affect me in the slightest. Same thing regarding sexism. Xenophobia is a perfectly normal human trait and as long as you understand that we all fear the unknown to a lesser or greater extent then you can't go too far wrong

>So, after this landslide, maybe, instead of getting offended by everything, go do something productive

Productive things such as creating bait threads on /b/? Yeah, I really should. Sadly I have bills to pay, work to go to, kids to feed and a life to lead so you will have to excuse me if I do not follow your lead there op but I'll reply to your bait nevertheless.

>try to be happy, even though Trump is your president.

Well, Obama is still our president but of course I'll stay chipper. Even after Trump is sworn in and he turns his back on his voter base, starts lining his own pockets and generally pisses on those who believes him to be anything other than a narcissistic conman with delusions of grandeur I will remain happy.

>>714312966
telling liars they are liars should get someone locked away? no freedom of speech?

obama committed treason multiple times with lots of proof and this doesn't matter?

obama literally bowed to the saudis the most oppressive regime on earth

>>714312719
ridiculous only if you think that it is ok to still keep killing the planet.

when Trump Tower is flooded who will be weeping?

>>714313169
gore said the earth would be too hot to inhabit by now the polar ice caps would have all melted and mount kilamankaro would no snow, did any of these things happen? could al gore have been wrong?

>>714313357
>obama committed treason multiple times

name one

>>714313368
Trump will have sold it to someone in his base as beach front property during the flood.

>>714313495
nsa spying, daca, iran deal, anwar aliki (spelling)

>>714313357
>obama literally bowed to the saudis

so did Trump.

it is called being polite and following protocol.

and getting things done, not pissing people off for no good reason other than wanting to compare dick sizes.

You think the Saudis believe they are bigger and stronger and better than the US on any level just because Obama bowed to their King. (like Bush did, and Bush Senior and Regan)

>>714313610
ah, so you don't know what "treason" means then. Ok got it.

none of those are treason.

try again

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>>714313788
at least google them lol

if he shot someone if broad daylight you would be like "wow people don't know what murder is!"

>>714313610
>anwar al aliki
killing that fucker was treason?

I suppose killing Bin Laden was treason as well then.

fuck off

>>714313910
I know what all of them are - and none are treason.

try googling "treason" then come back and apologize.

>>714313610
>NSA spying

Prism started in 07 under Bush.

>>714313953
so the rest are treason right? a war is treason because there was literally no proof of him being a terrorist, i don't mind either way it's just illegal

>>714307491
Nixon was unironically a pretty good president all things considered, not like Reagan or other memes

>>714314036
the crime of betraying one's country,

oh wow like SPYING ON YOUR ON CITIZENS WITH THE NSA

>>714314046
i believe that 100% adds to my point both parties are actually awful

All you faggots arguing all your reasons. Both sides have their arguments. All I can say is that trump has already done what I voted for him to do. And that was to not be Clinton. I could give a fuck if he sat in the Oval Office and whacked his tater for four years. He has done what I needed him to do.
>muh climate denier
>muh raycis
>muh muslims
>muh pussy
Dgaf.

>>714313910
"If the president does it, it's not a crime"

Trump actually bragged that shooting someone in the streets would just improve his ratings.

But still, no. None of those things you listed are treasonable offences

>>714313368
Radical climate change advocates are funny.

You can't force countries(especially under military pressure) to wreck their economies. They will rebel. And when the nukes fly, killing the planet with "emissions" will be the least of your worries.

>>714314200
I have no problem with the concept. Dubs checked and confirmed.

>>714313910
>treason.
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

so killing an enemy of the US (even though he was a joint us yemeni citizen) is not treason.

nor was the deal with Iran. nor is the NSA spying, even if unconstituional.

nor is DACA

so basically - you wrong.

>>714314232
yes they are google the word treason and get back to me

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>>714314046
>2016 still caring about your privacy
No one gives a flying fuck about you; especially the NSA.

>>714314305
see
>>714314300

>>714314148
Nixon ignored the report that said legalise pot and started teh War on Drugs

he ignored the report that said build a national health care system like every other civilised country and have single payer cover for everyone free at the point of use paid for by national insurance scheme, and he gave us shit tier medical cover

Nixon, for idealistic reasons and to make his cronies rich, fucked this country for fifty years and counting.

which is what Trump is about to do again with health care and education.

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>>714314232
Who cares what Trump says; the guy talks shit all the time. Only a retard would bring what he says into an argument.

>>714314094
>it's just illegal
nope it isn't...

sorry but it isn't treason nor illegal, so your butthurt "obama bad nigger because he killed a fucking sand nigger terrorist, but he is a nigger so he bad" is just bullshit.

but thank you for acknowledging that it wasn't treason and you were wrong on all counts.

>>714310109
As per his social image or do you know him personnally?

>>714314164
that isn't betraying your country - nor the definition of treason in the US, so , nope.

>>714314716
well maybe i'm wrong on that one NSA spying is still treason very very obvious treason too

Politically, Trump has slightly more Liberal views than Clinton so which millionaire won didn't really make much difference in that respect.

A silver lining is that he may flush out all the SJW idiots who are claiming to hold 'Liberal' values whilst shitting all over what that really means.

4 years of chaos could be worth it just to shake things up until a decent candidate appears.

>>714314164
Yeah but they are spying on you to fight "The terrorists"

You know, those big bad muslim boogeymen coming to murder-rape you and your family in your sleep

>We have to sacrifice social liberty for the sake of national security"

-Maximilien "The incorruptible" Robespierre

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>>714314226
>I could give a fuck if he sat in the Oval Office and whacked his tater for four years.


I wuld be happy if he did that.

but he won't

he will fuck you with barbed wire and make you pay him to do it.

he will make over 40 million int he next four years from things he has already said he will do. how much more will he make when he really gets going and the sleeze adn backhanders and bribes come in?

and he will fuck the planet for money.

anyone voting for him, is a cunt.

>>714314351
Until someone decides an activist is inconvenient. The US has been working to discredit activists since the McCarthy days.

>during our investigation into a child porn ring we just happened to find cp on this dissident's Google cloud storage

The CIA has been caught planting evidence before, and the NSA now had MUSCULAR, so they can at least t read unencrypted iCloud and Google cloud data. Manufacturing evidence isn't that much of a stretch for these people.

>I have nothing to hide

Then move to China. Mandatory big brother program on your cell phone that rates your affiliation to the state based on opinions and purchases that affect your livelihood with things like loans.

After all, you have nothing to hide.

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>>714306176
>i'm voting for tacos
Do millennials take anything seriously or do they refuse to grow up?

>>714314243
>And when the nukes fly,

yeah like every country in the world has nukes.

like every country in the world that has them (not many) would use them to kill the planet if they had economic sanctions taken against them (see Russia for example)

you really have no idea at all about geopolitics. Would your name be Donald by any chance?

>>714314781
yes it is, illegally spying on your own citizens betraying their privacy afforded to them in the constitution, aka treason!

>>714314938
Robespierre ended up at the guillotine like the rest.

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the president of the united states of america (POTUS) has the legal authority to assassinate anyone with a drone strike

watch what you say

>>714314838
>NSA spying is still treason very very obvious treason too

>>
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

which part of this does NSA spying fall under?

oh, none of it.

so it isn't treason in any way shape or form, never mind obviously so.

sheesh, learn to law

>>714314938
reminds me a great ben franklin quote

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

>>714315420
google definition of treason, still treason and still unconstitutional

sheesh, learn to english language

>>714315433
>quoting a dead fucker who had no bearings on our current situation
keep it relevant you idiot

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>>714310080
what? i didnt complain or act butt hurt when Obama won. I continued my life as usual.

95% of the people opposed to Obama didnt complain.

We didnt require a safe place, cry-ins, or therapy dogs. We didnt loot our cities and burn flags and cars to show our feelings.

We simply said, oh well.

We, did, criticized his actions and used the other branches of government to combat him. We didnt kick and scream because we didnt get "our way."

here's your "participation award" libfag. Thanks for voting.

>>714315420
>>714315506
As a third party, I believe the debaters have different definitions of "treason".
>>714315420 Defines it based on its legal meaning, whereas >>714315506 defines it based on its meaning in language.
You need to find a common definition, or this whole conversation is pointless.

>>714315648
i see ole benny boy on the $100 all the time, maybe you aren't around big bills so you may not be well acquainted :)

>>714315272
>betraying their privacy afforded to them in the constitution

where to start. Look up "betraying"

now consider the word you wanted was "invading"

then think for a minute - your legal argument is that every breach of a constitutional right is treason.

see how that does not work?

or put it another way. My peeking in your window is not a declaration of war against America, or giving aid to its enemies.

you are still wrong.

so please stop accusing the President of treason - you are talking shit.

>>714315802
the whole conversation is pointless anyway, this person said that drone killing the innocent son of a suspected terrorist was completely legal and constitutional. how can this person be convinced of anything if this is the case?

>>714315904
Obama commited Treason against his own people.

>>714315904
legal argument? is this court? what the hell are you talking about, treason is still treason regardless of how many times you say "im right your wrong wahhhh"

>>714315005
If my personal life is affected at all I'll be surprised. I'm not going to magically lose my job because of who is president. Price of gas might fluctuate. Price of food might fluctuate. But I've got a good job and am about to be debt free. Hillary wanted to make my life hell and restrict my freedoms. Demonize me and my son for being straight white males. Pushing the false perception that we inherently have some type of privilege. Give a bigger voice to those with that mindset.

If some asshole wants to make a few bucks while in office I'm fine with that. More power to him. But I'm not voting for the bitch that wants to shred the constitution in favor of a hemispherical free market with open borders. You can't have the types of freedoms we have and play the NWO game. And as far fetched and tinfoil as that sounds if there's even an iota of truth behind it then it's not worth risking.

>>714315506
>>714315802

problem is that idiot is saying Obama committed treason - and then using treason to mean "betrayed trust" which it does not mean.

ok it is used in that way in a loose sense, but not in any serious legal sense. he is claiming it is illegal and he is crying treason and saying should be prosecuted - so he is making a legal claim.

we are not talking past one another, he is simply wrong.

>>714316062
this x100

well fucking said anon.

>>714315690
>what? i didnt complain or act butt hurt when Obama won.

well good for you. You must not be a Republican then.

good man

>>714315995

what do you expect when the majority of the country has sat on there ignorant ass's for the past 8 years and did nothing to stop him

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I just don't approve of the GOP's economic and social policies, and we now have a GOP-controlled White House and Congress. It was never about Trump, Clinton or any individual. The party and it's actions are all that concern me, and I can glimpse into the past to predict what's coming. Some will like GOP leadership, fine, but I don't.

>>714316241
hi there.

How's the shitposting life?

>>714316172
trea·son
ˈtrēzən/Submit
noun
the crime of betraying one's country

i did not say "betrayed trust" what is reading comprehension

you crying about "wahh im right you are wrong cause my feelings are hurt wahh" is really not a valid argument, and doesn't make any sense at all!

it is still treason and still unconstitutional in all those cases

if you really think killing an innocent 16 year old american citizen with a drone strike is not a criminal betrayal of the citizen's of your country, then i probably cannot convince you the sky is blue either

>>714315297
Of course he did.

Also he never said the words I just attributed to him.

But it sounds like something he would have said, and that's the important thing.

Who needs facts when you can just go with things that sounds about right?

I love living in this world of ours. We have finally achieved a collective state of mind where anything and nothing is true.

The people in charge have set up a little puppet theatre for fools to gaze at and tear themselves up over whilst they remain rich and powerful.

It's borderline genius.

I just wish I had been born a millionaire, so I too could become president one day.

Or at least have some influence over policy.

Instead I was born poor so I have been relegated to arguing pointless shit with other duped fools.

"My team is better"

"Nuhuh, my team is better"

And on and on it goes.

Humans are such gillible retards it brings such joyful tears into my eyes.

>>714315995
how?

what do you mean by treason

>>714316017


because it seems to mean "did something i do not like"

in which case it is a meaningless claim.

the claim that he committed treason is a serious claim to make - and you are factually wrong, so please stop being a butthurt crybaby who wants words to mean whatever you want them to mean, and admit it.

otherwise i shall have to say you are a treasonous dog, and have betrayed America by using the language falsely, and you should be prosecuted for treason, and hung at dawn.

>>714316420
it is gray today.... you have been proven wrong twice!

>>714316017
>treason is still treason
is still a legal term with a specific meaning, so you are wrong.

How does it feel that millennials are almost entirely progressive? Once all these baby boomers are gone the US is destined to become entirely democrat, that is if God-King Trump doesn't put us into the ground before-hand.

>>714316341
well said. I agree 100%

>>714315648
You are so fucking stupid. Our forefathers were incredibly smart and insightful, and a lot of what they said 250 years ago is still extremely relevant today. Literally timeless.
ie that qoute and many others, the constitution, etc

>>714316451
spying illegally on your own citizens is not criminal betrayal?

killing an innocent 16 year old US citizen with a drone strike is not criminal betrayal?

what?

>>714316503
>i have no argument but you hurt my feelings so you are wrong
>you are wrong cause i said so haha gotcha! i'm right you are wrong lol!
yea ok really good job

>>714316062
>>714316193

you fell for the breitbart and infowars bullshit didn't you.

awww my feelings are hurt cos nasty women and niggers want me to acknowledge the systematic discrimination that goes on. they make me feel bad and demonised because i never have to worry about being raped, or having my application for a tenancy turned down because of the colour of my skin. they make me out to be a demon cos I never have to think about being seen as dumb just because I have a dick and white skin. mwahhh i have no priviliges at all.

fuck off you sexist racist scum

>>714316451
>How?
He made our personal infomation available on a global market so we can be advertised to from foriegn markets.

Treason is the act of betraying your country. He sold us out literally.

Not to mention paying Iran billions, approving Russia to buy our Uranium. Targeting a man who simply told the US people the truth.

>>714315227

You can't expect Russia(biggest gas exporter) to stay silent while you force an European country to limit their gas import, now can you?

My point still stands. You can't force a country using the military, to completely change their energy infrastructure which would cost the a shitton of money.

>>714316341

Statistically more recessions with a GOP government.

>>714316569
They will grow up the same as everyone else. They will get jobs and start having kids and start realizing that the left doesn't represent what they used to think was important. Happens more than you'd think. And then a new batch of teenagers will hit 18 having been freshly brainwashed to care more about some asshole in Africa/Europe/Asia than they care about their own country and fellow countrymen and the cycle will repeat itself.

>>714304484
Contact with alien races always renews one's faith in humanity. It is my belief that foreign travel narrows the mind wonderfully.

>>714316341
Well I would hope they can learn from the past and not invent more economic strategies.

>>714316569
Shitposting aside, it is worth noting that this is the second republican administration in a row that took control without winning the popular vote. I'm not one of those "abolish the electoral college" fools, but this means they haven't won an open White House with the majority of votes since 1989. That says something about demographics, and I think republicans should be more concerned about looking into that.

>>714316929
i hope so but i really don't know with this generation, they are by far the most indoctrinated and crazy. i mean just look at all the rioting, safe spaces, sjws, and other insane stuff they having going on!

>>714316843
What european country has been told to limit its gas import?

>>714316569
im a millenial. i voted trump. Baby Boomers are the hippy age morons who
created the new movements in the LGBT areas and created this fake civil rights agenda.

Move out of your big city faggot for a year to see why Trump won and Hillary lost. The people who farm your food, ranch your meat, produce your oil, mine your minerals, create your towers, and pay your bills made the decision.

With all your "education" you should of figured this out.

>>714316806
And your opinion has been discarded. Btw... I've never looked at any of that stuff. Hell I never even knew either of those places existed until lefties started in on them. And yeah. They're shitty tabloidesque sources. I've based everything I've said on things that I've actually heard come out of Hillary clintons mouth.

>>714316820
whenever i presented them a logical argument they would just tell me "im right you are wrong wahh" so i dont know if your attempts will work either

>>714317044

Bush 41 mostly won because he was running on the tails of the booming 80's economy, also Dukakis.

>>714307379
1. Wrong.
2. With how gerrymandered districts are from redistricting the electoral vote is no longer a real representation of the population's views. The minority is given an unfairly elevated platform to the point where even liberal as all hell cities like Austin end up with all conservative representation. This country did not want trump, the gerrymandering minority did.

>>714317135
holy shit this, i had no idea what breitbart was until trump got elected and i said well we gotta hope for the best, and every progressive i knew was like

>muh breitbart
>muh fake news
>you have to see these headlines from breitbart omg

>>714317065

>i mean just look at all the rioting, safe spaces, sjws, and other insane stuff they having going on!

Are you 12 years old or do you simply not read history?

Humans have behaved in this manner for centuries.

You should go read a book some time.

>>714317316
i would love to believe this can you please show me some proof?

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>>714317044
It says we let too many immigrants in who only care about their im own interests instead of the interests of their host country.

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>>714317386
there is a new type of creature that has emerged from this generation though

>>714317132
And with your lack of education you elected a demagogue con-artist whose agenda is simply to make himself and his children richer at the cost of the american middle and lower classes.

Well done, give yourself a round of applause. You have earned it.

>>714317132
Lmao, like you know anything about me, good job generalizing though. I didn't even vote for Hillary and I sure as shit don't live in a big city. In fact, I've been republican for 99% of my life and spent 3 years in the Army as an infantryman--pretty much the exact opposite of who you believe I am. Baby boomers are the ones who elected Trump, the majority of millennials voted democrat or against him third party. But what do I know I'm just some anti-American "liberal" brainwashed in college.

>>714317622
>now i insult you because im mad muh hitlery didnt win
>muh russian hackers stole the election
>im literally shaking
>muh #notmypresident

enough, enough we know the deal you are superior to everyone who has a dissenting opinion

>>714314632
"Why should we judge a politician on what they say? I only vote for politicians who are constantly insincere and hyperbolic so I have no idea what I'm actually getting! Drain the swamp! Wait... no... now I'm in the swamp, the swamp is good to me, I love the swamp! Ha, good thing I never gave any indication that I'm a complete fucking con artist."