Should weed be legalized?

>>714167474
Dignity

>>714167474
I have mixed views of this. Honeslty I believe it should be, but i hate the argument of "medical." Yes, marijuana has some medicinal applications but most come from CBD, not THC. Half the people just want to get high, which is okay, just don't lie about it

Yes. It would take most of the wind out of the Libertarian Party's sails, and to a certain extent, aid in pacifying the dindu population.

Already is.

Love, California

>>714167938
When are you spic faggots seceding?

all drugs should be decriminalized.

it already is

Probably. Just so you fucking degenerate pothead scum will hurry up and kill yourselves. Then we can move on to other important shit.

>>714167474
Yeah, it's a healthier escape from reality than alcohol, and people need their escapes. It isn't "degenerate', either. Life is a fucking pain in the ass and people need a bong hit/stiff drink every once in a while.

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>>714167474
already is baby.

>>714167657
This

>>714168597
Is that justin wong? Kek

Pshh. Real badasses do heroin. Pussies.

No. It's illegal and so you shouldn't smoke it.

>>714167474
Yes

>>714168451
>acting as if people of "importance" don't use any substance
Man weed is no worse than alcohol, people get drunk because its fun, same with weed, but alcoholism is a much more serious problem than being a pothead
>>714168550
This right here, it is alright to have an escaoe sometimes, it's when it controls your life or you become dependent on it that its a problem

Yes it really should! I think it should be treated just like alcohol.

It is

>>714168371
This

Of course.

Then they can tax it. The capitalists are happy, the socialists are happy, everyones happy.

>>714169594
How effective is it to tax something that you can grow in a pot on your porch?

Tax is not the reason. The biggest reason is civil liberties... and diverting police / justice resources to bust stoners for smoking a doobie. Its a no brainer.

>>714169711

You can grow tobacco on your porch, but how many people do you see doing that?

Nobody is going to grow it when its conveniently in the store alongside the alcohol & cigarettes.

>>714169042
problem is your treating the effect not the cause by "escaping". Take charge and be a man. When you rely on something to "escape" you become addicted before you know it and when you see it, its too late.

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>>714168371
Not pcp or bathsalt everything else bro
>mah pic

>>714167474
no. everyone thinks cartels will go poof and disappear.

legal drugs are a great way to launder money through. drug cartels and empires will take over the legal drug market and exporting drugs to other countries will be much easier.

dope used as a med by someone sick,,under care of an honest sawbones,yeah no more,,
immense damage has been wrought upon us be the left back in the 60s wars the movement US go home,etc etc, tune out turn on drop out,a lot in the left we idealists had something worthwhile to say,, drugs and dope reproduced like prairie grass fires in prisons, the dope ought to have been stopped while jedgar hoover was around denying for years that the mob was an evil power on the american business ans political.
system,jedgar also would have noted the easy availability of dope in segregated black areas,,nope he never did, had he & local cops rooted out hard dope and pot too,instead of the attitude,'ah let the damn niggers kill themselves the more the better',,,,,the embers of drugs would not have taken hold as they did when the left was raising hell,,,pot is hell on wheels for the middle & working class in poor suburban & everywhere areas, it interferes with learning eye hand coordination,abstact thinking judgement,,legal pot = more pot = more societal rot and deterioration.

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>>714167657
Getting high can be medicinal. As someone who was depressed for over a decade, and suffers frequent migraines; Getting high saved my life, its still illegal in my country even for medicinal, as such the migraines have come back (they were 100% gone, down from twice per week). Being able to stay positive is the best thing for mental health, everyone needs downtime, Cannabis helps me with this, it doesn't really matter how you or anyone else feel about it, people are going to do it anyway, there is no reason to spend taxpayer money on trying to stop them, its practically harmless.

>>714169831
I don't know about this

>>714170972
Cannabis can have severely negative effects on people with depression or other psychoactive diseases.

It can trigger schizophrenia in people who didn't know they had it.

Aside from that, marijuana is no different from alcohol in a certain regard. It's a tool of escapism from reality and a dissociative. Weed is very easy to become dependent on and addictive as a result.

>>714169831
this, it's legal to grow it in my state... very few people do over all even tho it pays amazingly well because they need more growers to supply all the normal people

>>714167657
As a real medical marijuana patient, I agree with this. Most of the "patients" are just people that want to get high. The whole system is a crock of shit. Everyone that goes to one of the clinics gets approved. Dispensaries sell a lot of Sativas and other non medical strains. I'm usually cannatonic #4, very high cbd and very low thc.

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>>714171545
Fine, i dont care. I wanted to die for 15 years. Regular use of Cannabis was the only thing that helped me. You try having crippling headaches several times a week and see how good you feel about life. Its like someone is driving a nail into the back of my eyes. I dont give a flying fuck what you think cannabis can do to people, my bets are on you have never even tried it, because ive never met anyone who has tried it, and dislikes it.

>>714170972
Yeah but then randos will overdose on it and die.

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>>714172072
true, once i injectected one marijuanas and dieded.

>>714171313

No, you dont. So stop posting.

>>714170972
>>714171978
Its a slippery slope, there's a reason why they call it a gateway drug. You're lucky your depression did not get worse otherwise you'd be taking shots of heroine...

Also societies laws are set for the lowest denominator, there's a reason we can't go as fast as we feel is safe on roads, because retards. There's a reason we can't eat delicious, delicious kinder surprises. some retard.

>>714172261
Exactly one of my friends did this and dieded the doctor could not revive him so we found the dealer he used and took pictures of all the cars entering his house over like a month or two and reported everyone to the police so they could not dieded like my friend. He was not the only one who dieded from taking a shot of marijuana either one or two of my friends dieded too but they survived. One of my acquaintances once took a shot of all the marijuana he dieded too it was a mess they needed to close the hospital for days.

>>714171978
Well I never denied that it helps with pain. That's absolutely true. But someone like you probably shouldn't be smoking it (unless thats your preferred way) but they should give you CBD oil for your pain.

Also, good job acting like the stereotypical pompous stoner asshole.
>I dont give a fuck what you think
>you never even tried it BRO
>ive never met anyone who tried it and disliked it BRAH
I stopped after I spent years addicted to what it did for me. It was great at first when I was smoking for fun with friends but after awhile I found myself very depressed and smoking alone. It did wonders at first for me, it was great. But then I realized it was a crutch to keep me temporarily happy and I realized it controlled a lot of aspects of my life.

I'm glad I've stopped. I feel much more energetic and clean. I can remember things much better and think clearer. But, I never had a medical issue like you.

Also, I've met a good amount of people that smoked and didn't like it.

I didn't bring any hostility into my first comment to you. I thought stoners are supposed to be peaceful and chill? Not assholes who attack anyone who refutes what they say.

>>714167474
Medically, yes. Recreational use should be left to the states.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a retarded teenager.

>>714172330
The only slippery slope falacy is your comment dickhead.
I found my medicine by accident, its not a gateway drug, anymore than beer is. Have you ever tried it?

I believe in natural selection. Ill drive as fast as i like, i know how to handle a car at its limit. I dont choke to death like a retard. Ill smoke up because thats what i want to do. WHY WASTE MONEY TRYING TO STOP ME?

>>714167474
I'm in Cali and it is not should... 420

>>714167657
This is what I always said, being an ex stoner I can say being high is great, nobody thinks of the medicinal side besides justifying the habit

>>714172801
Wow. You proved me right >>714172578
in attacking that poster. >>714172330


You certainly don't help your cause. You're a hostile fucking asshole. You're the reason why it's still illegal, because dumbfucks like you have access to it.

>>714167474
>Should weed be legalized?
only because i'm tired of fucking stonerfags bitchin how it's not legalized yet

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>>714168033
ASAP red state nigger... Trump can't fuck wit this coast!

I make an extra growing pot so i hope not. Illegal weed is expensive weed

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>>714172578
Im agitated because i need it, and i cant have it. I haven't smoked it in over a year and i suffer. Its illegal by the fault of people like you. It didnt work for you, so what? thats not my problem, it works for me. Id like to not spend 2 days a week in unbearable pain. Dont be a cunt, let people ruin their lives if they want to, its none of your business.

>>714173149
Move! You dumb fuck... west coast is the best coast!!

>>714172801
Obviously you were psychologically addicted. You can't get physically addicted to anything, but you can be psychologically. When the effect becomes too mundane you will try out more harder drugs. Its common sense.

As for the second part, unfortunately
society is like that as long as someones more stupid then you, which i mean considering you're pretty much almost as dumb as it gets - is pretty impressive - there will always be laws no one likes.
>>714173056
Basically you are pointing to a comment saying you're a dickhead? i could already see that.

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>>714173093
Lol ok
>MFW we have a federal government and a constitution and you can't secede

>>714173333
you took our quads you fucker

>>714173149
I'm pro medical marijuana. I'm not pro recreational. That was the point of my arguement. That's why I alluded to you needing it because of your illness.

CBD oil should be legal. THC should not.

>>714173257
not a US citizen. The NZ government doesnt want to change as long as your shitcunts still think its a federal crime.

>>714173136
Whats your setup and how much do u make?

>>714173333
>You can't get physically addicted to anything
youre fucking retarded as fuck

>>714173462
About a square meter. Led grown. Yields about 3000 euros every 2-3 months

Used to smoke a lot, it does effect your brain negatively for sure if you abuse it. It is obviously less dangerous than alcohol before all the stoners start repeating the same statements but if you legalize it more people will smoke it and it will have a negative effect on society.

>>714173333
>dick
I'm pointing to you calling that guy a dickhead and saying you proved me right in that you're a fucking faggot asshole.

I hope weed doesn't get legalized and you suffer. You deserve it for being such a fucking shitbag.

>>714173425
Ahh NZ, no wonder you're such a colossal dickhead.

Enjoy your fucking pain, faggot. Get addicted to pain pills, cunt.

I find that the biggest setback for weed is the fact that there is no "hangover" for weed which makes it more comfortable to use when compared to alcohol. Hangover from alcohol reduces the use quite alot and makes it so that working people don't use it that much during the week. Getting high on anything or getting wasted often is not a good thing as it affects you mentally and ofc is a money drain

instead of spending tax money on jailing everyone who smokes, you can make shittons of tax money by selling it in stores legally.

sounds like a financial win in my book

>>714173333
> psychologically addicted
Dont be a pussy, thats not a real thing. Weed will always be enough for me.

>>714173546
why would i want weed legalized and why are you attacking me with rando comments that make no sense?

>>714173680
Yea this is a good point, you maybe at worst feel a little tired the next day, this makes people abuse it more for sure, whereas if you drank a bottle of vodka you probably wouldn't drink the next few days unless you have a serious problem.

It's a funny thing.. I kept seeing the word 'cuck' used in here and the word stuck with me. I didn't know what it meant, so after thanksgiving dinner I asked mom what it meant while dad was present (me, mom and dad where the only ones in the house after our guests had left), and mom looked at me funny, and then looked at dad, and the next thing I know I had sex with my mother while my dad watched.

>>714173623
whats your problem? my country is better than yours. I just want to get high. why are you wasting your time telling me i shouldnt like some kind of fag?

>>714173537
no, it wont. i use weed to dumb myself to do harder work then you ever have. no one experiences negative things. and you arnt better then anyone to tell tem what to do

>>714173731
Nice deflection, kiwi. Enjoy being a brainless dickhead.

>>714173698
until you feel reeeeally down and weed just ain't doing it for ya.
>>714173531
Yes, there's only some items that can by physically addictive, not just anything like for example, sand. Or flour. Or bread.

Don't legalize it, it will kill the tourism in my country.

>>714173698
People like you are funny, you smoke weed everyday then dismiss psychological addiction.

>protip - you're psychologically addicted.

>>714173834
wew whatever you're literally making no sense
i mean i would be offended but i am just confused.

I never wanted weed to be legalized, its just a gate way drug then you come trying to say its not a gateway drug and that it should be banned anyway and everyones a dickhead

>>714173893
>you smoke weed everyday
Nope, havent smoked in a year. I quit cold turkey to get a job i wanted. There are functioning stoners everywhere.
Do you drink coffee or alcohol?

Everyone is drunk in this thread.

>>714173840
>until you feel reeeeally down and weed just ain't doing it for ya.
nope. Ever smoked weed? you sound like christian mother.

>>714174329
yeah i was in a bad spot one of my black friends hooked me with a dealer one day i was down he gave me some free heroine to try - i was hooked.

It took the good part of 7 years to come clean but i am glad i did. and the urge to hit it up is still there i just know that shit ain't gonna bring me to a better place.

>>714173840
what kind of faggot are you. you just put weed in the same category as flour or bread. your argument is invalid weed is excellent.
literally as addictive as bread. and i have bread and cereal cravings before i have weed cravings.

also what kind of fucking argument is that. are you amish? you thought of flour and were like,
"what else exists in the world, oh fuck! bread. duh."

>>714174552
>black friend
theres your problem.
and instant heroin addiction is a myth

>>714174552
>just say no

>>714174552
well you're a weal piece of shit if thats true. too bad you didnt do us all a favor and die.

>>714174570
Please kill yourself, you will be doing the gene pool a massive favour!
With love, The human race.

>>714174570
Sugar, caffeine and salt are addictive, in any commercial product you will generally find them.
I could have listed coke, cakes, waffles, muhdik but they can all be technically physically addictive.

>>714174722
the rest of us disagree, you faggots are in a minority now.

>>714174703
>>714174682
You don't say no to free heroine man

>>714167474
all drugs should be legal.
The gazillions of $$$ that is called The War On Drugs.
Use that money for treatment of drug addicts and prevention and do whatever you want with the 90% that would still be left.

>>714174552
Dear Ex-junkie retard,

This thread is about weed. Feel free to leave now.

Sincerely,
Annon

>>714174796
anyone with some sense would. you dont deserve to live.

>>714173940
it has been proven weed isnt a gateway drug, alcohol is. If you wouldnt try stuff before weed you wont try it after. alcohol lowers inhibitions and common sence.

The only reason weed was considered a "gateway" drug was cuz people in the /DARE program lied so fucking hard about everything including weed being so dangerous that once you actually tried it and realised it want hardcore you start to beleive nothing is hardcore and it was all a lie

80% of all drug busts are black despite white people smoke just as much as black people.
Let that sink in

If we were to legalize weed, how many black scum would be free to walk the streets?

We should instead focus on focusing on black smokers not whites.

>>714174754
>>714174722
youre proving your point even more.
weed is less harmful then sugar you fucking nigger

>>714174703
>>714174722
>>714174828
>>714174882
>>714174831
Everyone gets told the TRUTH and everyones like get the fuck out of my thread only delusions here mate

>>714169711
>How effective is it to tax something that you can grow in a pot on your porch
How effective is it to tax something that you can brew in a barrel on your porch

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>>714174828
its obviously that other fuy that said when youre down weed might not be enough

>>714174973
what truth? the only deluded person is you. why dont you like weed? everyone likes weed.

>>714174970
I never claimed weed was physically addictive. i said it was not. I said it was psychologically addictive due to the high you get from it, will make you want to get better highs. - soon you will be tripping on acid and dmt.

>>714171545

>Trigger schizophrenia

Ok.

>>714175036
the only deluded person is you. why dont you hate weed? everyone hates weed.

>>714170432
enjoy all the potential and invincibility of being under 30. it's obvious you don't have any kids or a mortgage. there is a reason why they would make it illegal for kids under 21, so you wouldn't be able to smoke it

>>714167474

Legalized?......

It should be compulsory.

>>714174973
i dont understand what your talking about :(
i looked for like 5 minutes

>>714175073
false, everyone loves weed. you also avoided the question. please explain in detail why you dont like Cannabis.

>>714170765
hur dur, because al capone is the CEO of anheuser-busch. I'm infinitely grateful kids under 21 (like you) won't be able to smoke cannabis

>>714175044
exactly. weed is less addictive then sugar.
i can get phycologically addicted to bread or weed. seems tame

read this about weed - http://rurl.us/4Zdxq

>>714175162
the truth that weed is a gateway drug. prove the majority likes weed. If 90% of the world is a democracy and 90% of the world weed is ban then that means 90% of the people hates the weed.

I hate weed because its a gateway drug.

>>714175209
Yeah and breads like a gateway food first you eat bread then scone, maybe a sweetroll if it does not get stolen, soon you're done - you eat the cake. its over.

Same with the weed. first you do the weed, you want more, you do the acid, the dmt, then the heroine. then you overdose on anthrax.

>>714170924
another underage kid. seriously, anyone on this site is under 30 and those that aren't, are really, really, sad people. who the fuck evokes j edgar hoover? are you mad the "cool" kids make fun of you?

>>714173416
Wow, I'm so glad a medical doctor stepped in and told us what compounds are helpful and which are not. The biggest problem with the medical system is that no one has done it right, its either too clunky and the only ones who have access are on the verge of death or its too lax and basically rec. Why don't we just legalize rec so stoners won't have any more excuses to mount the soapbox at socially inappropriate times?

>>714175053
There actually is a high correlation between marijuana use at a young age and schizophrenia, but I haven't seen anything proving the marijuana causes the schizophrenia, it may be that schizophrenics are more prone to use marijuana. Who knows? Schizophrenics have been shown to be much more likely to smoke tobacco and tobacco actually aids in dampening some of their schizophrenic symptoms.

>>714175275
>I hate weed because its a gateway drug.
You're a sheep idiot, its not a gateway drug.
>90% of the world is a democracy
no its not, otherwise it would be legal now. as most people in my country believe it should be, the government isnt interested in the issue.

>>714175472
why would the government care they serve the people if politician said ill legalize weed and everyone wanted it legalized WHAZAM new president weed is legal in all countries like GAZAM. Clearly not the case because weed is a dangerous drug.

>>714171545
cannabis is a psychedelic. yet another kid that is only motivated to use wikipedia to copy-paste into their high school essay, instead of educating themselves

>>714175536

>dangerous

In what way?

>>714175536
They make the laws. politicians are typically old cunts here. 75% of NZ thinks cannabis should be decriminalized but in interviews on the subject with out MPs, they don't care, they wont hold a referendum, its not a true democracy.

>>714175711
sounds like a conspiracy to me, nice try tinfoil, if we're not living in a democracy then why are we a democratic society?

>>714175708
its a gateway drug.

>>714173537
you know what has the worst effects on a body (beside real drugs, like prescription pills)? stress and dehydration. and cannabis definitely helps one of those for me

> >>714175711 (You)
> sounds like a conspiracy to me, nice try tinfoil, if we're not living in a democracy then why are we a democratic society?

My point is its not, if 75% disagrees with politicians, yet they dont listen, then its not a democracy. they were the same about the anti-smaking referendum.

>>714175708
>its a gateway drug.
No more than milk or beer

>>714173893
you could be studying a STEM or financial/economic field, but instead you are on 4chan. you must psychologically addicted because that is deterring your development as an adult. ban 4chan. it's a gateway site to child pornography

>>714175776

Wow, let's make this harmless drug illegal because someone might take something else..

I'm glad the world's ending soon.