https://www.politicalcompass.org/te st TESTING TIME

ITT: liberals

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>>713905494

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quiz is way to long

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>>713906009
Why you lying bitch.

>>713906738
>to

it takes like 5 minutes you small brained faggot

>>713906549
Hello, me.

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Totalitarianist here.

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the only logical corner.

>>713907031
Just as bad as a right-wing fascist.

>>713907107
Except when you get blackmailed into doing a mafia/cartel/syndicate's bidding because blackmail is legal and you don't want to lose your reputation and social standing in a society based on it.

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>>713907031
This guy is a brother

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Center of the only logical 3x3 grid area.

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I am filled with shame.

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>>713905494

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>>713905494

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The only reasonable square to place in.

>>713907818
Unashamed btw, fight me

>>713907971
Don't worry, nobody expects you to be anything more than a prideful idiot.

>>713907971
Nah. I used to be liberal, but then I shifted towards Capitalistic intentions, until I landed smack dab in the middle of Libertarian Town. I still totally see where your economic views come from though. (I may disagree with them, but I understand them)

All these fake right-wings, deliberately lying about the questions so they can look like Hitler. Pathetic.

>>713908148
Slowly delving into capitalistic tendencies. I'm fairly sure I'll change there as well. Libertarian sounds fair but the anarchy group sounds wacked out of their minds

What are your economic views?

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cgcnc

>>713908184
I've told myself these cucks are just taking place in the meme that is the alt-right.

pretty sad how many are so deficient in critical thinking, and go a dot left of center.

>>713908325

my economic views are free market. Not patent protected drug for 10 years commie bullshit, free market.

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>>713908184
Hitler was about center on this test's economic scale. The site even displays where Hitler is (pic related). Nobody's even close. Either too socialist or not authoritarian enough.

>>713908184
Hitler wasn't even strongly right wing though...

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Hitler reporting in

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french-canafag here

>>713909093
Would have a beer with.

>>713909019
Would assassinate.

>>713909093
That's disgusting

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>>713909093
Bonne chance avec tous les sacs d'épicerie que les fagots québécois génèrent.

>>713909185
would love to m9
did you post your results?

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A bit unexpected to be entirely honest, but I guess.

This scale suggests left/rightism is only an economic factor, how is this accurate?

>>713909428
Because how is it not?

>>713909428

what fucking world do you live in? Right lets you keep your money, left takes it, period, and that really is how the world works.

Bernie sanders = tax hikes = give to the poor

>>713909349
I didn't this time and I didn't save the last one, but I'm just a little bit closer to the center, diagonally, towards the central point.

>>713909321
how so?

>>713909093

This is my post here:>>713909623

This anon is exactly around where mine was: >>713909423

>>713909613
No, rights take the poor's money and give it to the rich.

Lefts takes the rich's money and distributes it equally.

>>713909613
you say ''takes'' like there is no way anyone would willingly share ressources instead of hoarding them.

>>713909613
What's your issue with having a standard of living that affects your surrounding communities?

Personally Universal healthcare sounds like a good bet fiscally

>>713907262
>implying legality prevent it from happening.
hell, alot of time the government takes the place of mafias with their own versions of protection money.

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Right where I expected to be

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Fuck the right wing.

>>713910102
All these types of memes are just biased toward right wing libertarian bastards.

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I'll be honest, I have no clue what this means.

>>713909851
>take the poors money
they have no money, we all (taxpayers) give them money. You can't steal what isn't yours to start with. how very left of you.

>>713909963
Who do you personally know that has paid voluntary taxes? I don't know anyone, because the government is the most wasteful entity on the planet. No I would not give them a dime if I had the choice, if we bid out the services I want (water, power, roads, military) I would saves 10s of thousands yearly and get better services.

>>713910321
Left = correct.
Right = wrong.
Up = more government.
Down = less government

>>713910321
Don't be so stereotypical

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Join the club Libertarian /b/ois

>>713910386
And what is the reason they have no money, my good sire?

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Hmm, can't really say

>>713910418
Lib cucks all crashing into the parking lot due to no licenses

>>713910403
>Left=correct
Ok there buddy those are some very strong view points. And your opinion is objectively wrong

>>713910403
Did I do good George?
>>713910406
What you mean?

>>713910321
means you support an equal distribution of ressources, as long as it is done voluntarily and without the state interfering too much in the process.

is it accurate?

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>>713910102
i prefer this one

>>713910542
An opinion about economy can't be objectively wrong because the entire concept of economy is a fabrication of human society. You cuk

>>713910519
Lib cucks don't understand the idea of keeping their money they'd rather give it to Tyrone the gangbanger and Shamish the terrorist.

>>713910581
Is who accurate, me or the test?

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>>713906612
>>713906549
>>713906845
>>713907387
>>713907482
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>>713908823
ITT: "i just wanna smoke pot" libertarians


same tho

>>713910027

My issue with "having" a standard of living is that you can't simply "have" one. The money comes from somewhere. For every dollar you're giving someone to "have" a standard of living you're taking one from someone else. As in theft.

Now don't get me wrong, I have no problems with taxing the ultra rich. If you make 25 million in a year, fuck it pay 75% in taxes after that.

The problem I have is I'm the one getting fucked. I do around 2 million a year total, minus costs and employees, benefits, healthcare, marital expenses, I might make 200k. Then the government taxes me gas to move my trucks, income on my properties, healthcare (medicare medicare) etc. I might make 125k this year, working non stop 90+ hour weeks. Any when you say 125k is great money, go shit a brick. If you work 40 hour weeks sure, but I give up a lot to be here, family time, friends, memories of my kids, just so fucking leeches to suck my bank account dry to do nothing.

>>713910793
the test goddammit

typical clueless libtard

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>>713910830

>>713910172
The key is to balance government power so that no parts have more power than each other. Removing all power whatsoever and then you're closer to the law of the jungle, like in a pure libertarian non-state/anarchism. Also when government power is centralized, then you have all the parts being used by a very small elite, like what we have today. There needs a balance of power. A representative republic doesn't allow true balance of power because representatives (who are controlled by that small elite) are able to make laws without absolutely any public input, such as the amendment rule 41 which passed secretly a few days ago. And whenever they get more power, they always use it to get more.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/30/rule-41/

>>713910475

they refuse to work or it, and refuse to learn.

>>713910102
>Be under jesus, incest, and bombing Muslims.
>I only care about incest

>>713910952
Libtard? Sorry, Tyrone hasn't taught me that one yet; what mean?

>>713910633
Objectively means an opinion cuk and we all have different ideas on what makes a successful economy. For example while the left believes that resources should be distributed equally, the right believes that we should work for our own money and those who have more of it should use it to give the means to make money to those who don't have it. Obviously those are generalizations but while both work in theory we find our position to the right and left with how they reach these ideals. Hence it can be objectively wrong as I disagree with how you make something successful.

>>713910907
Hey, from each according to his means, to each according to his needs

>>713911042
No, its because any money they make flows straight back up to rich greedy bastards like you.

>>713911104
Nej, subjectively means an opinion

>>713911116
and what happens when those with "means" can no longer support what those with "needs" think they "need" hmmmmmmmmm?

The problem with socialism, ultimately, is you run out of other peoples money.

>>713909613
actually, left = worker owned means of production = workers take the full value of what they create
right = privately owned means of production = workers take home less than the value of the things they create

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>>713908501
Brother...

>>713911333
>cheked
Also I'm fucking retarded

>>713911354
I'm not a socialist, I'm a Communist.

And what happens then is the exact same thing that happens in a poor capitalist economy. A poor economy.

>>713910907
so you're working your ass off and give up family/friends/kids to get barely enough to be satisfied?

Yeah, sounds like you got a good plan there, buddy.

How about working less, owning less, but actually living with the ones you love?

>>713911231

I mean you're not totally wrong, but why not join us? Start a business. Oh you don't want to risk entire financial future of you and your family? Start an easy one, only work a little. Oh, you don't want to spend 80-100 hours a week doing hard work, cleaning up shit? Right... makes sense, the poor do all the work, and I just profit right?

It's funny, because you always immediately tell if anyone has ever owned a real business, any kind. If you have, you never preach the "oh the poor do all the work" bullshit mantra. You see the poor pretending to work, while the rich guy in the back actually does all the work.

>>713911402
Nigga what.
That's gibberish.
R I G H T I S P R O C O N S U M E R A N D T A X P A Y E R

>>713910907
Well as left as I came out in my chart my belief is that the higher incomes should be taxed less but close all legal loopholes and heavily fine those avoiding taxes.

My problem isn't that the rich are rich, more power to them, simply that they therefore use that power to find any way out of our system that made them rich.

I think that the "standard" I refer to helps us as a society to not collapse under it's own perpetuating filth allowing people to not have poor ignorant kids and prevent the tax drains of people that exist currenty.

You should be making more of you're money, it's fucked that you are not. But I just believe it's a necessary evil and the price to live in a productive/efficient society.

>>713911564
comrade

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>>713905494
Im Like Ghandi

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>>713905494

I've moved down and left since the last time I took it. Some of the questions feel outdated too.

>>713910271
Comedy and memes are themselves anti-authoritarian and libertarian, of course they would favor themselves.

>>713911597
You're right. It's pretty dumb. The alternative is to line someone else's pocket. I dream bigger, and I hope if I keep at it I'll do more, earn more, and eventually be able retire off passive income. That's why.

>>713911658
tell me what part of it you don't understand, I can explain it in depth if you'd like

>>713911564
But you offer no solution to the age old issue with communism. No one wants to work when they are given the means to reap the same benefits as someone who does. Also, what about personal freedoms and the right to choose how to live your life as opposed to what has occurred in previous communist regimes. Also what do you think has gone wrong over and over again in every single failed "revolution".

>>713910403
>Right = Wrong
Classic newspeak. This tip brought to you by the ministry of truth.

>>713911670
As I said, I'm cool with that. Once you hit the 10-25 million market, get fucked in taxes, that's fine with me. Close the loopholes.

Stop fucking me in taxes. That's the key. I wonder how many fags in this thread bought mac shit that they paid way too much for, to support apple dodging nearly all their taxes (paid 5% this year?) just to tell me to get fucked for fixing their plumbing.

I remember when /b/ had thoughts and critical thinking. Sure seems like it's really just some edgy teens with no life now.

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>mfw IQ of 154

Tremble at the sight of my superior political alignment you right-wing fools.

>>713910271
But right wing libertarianism is the proper viewpoint. I'm not sure why you hate it so much.

>>713911806
How is the left pro creation of what the worker creates when in reality it inhibits corporations and the elite to create a lack of jobs and a host of people on welfare. 1950-60's we were left with a very open economy in which the average wage for workers was twice that of what it is today.The reason this isnt the case is a result of things becoming increasingly more expenisve as the left advocates for minimum wage laws making goods more expensive. I however am not a conservative but am more anti government

>>713912221
My nigga

>>713911797
Great!

By the time you achieve that, you might still be able to walk and enjoy your time!

Lining someone else's pocket isn't the only alternative. Just be content with owning less. It doesn't mean you have to live in a shithole eating plain rice every day, man. Just accept simpler belongings. A smaller house, an older car, second-hand clothes.

If I were actually the kind of economic leech you seem to despise so much, I'd be glad you're paying taxes for the poor and the slobs. That's not my point. I don't want more, I live a simple life with an adequate wage job, I do my part in paying taxes and I'm happy this way.

>>713912329

Minimum wage laws have existed since way before the 1950s.

>>713912221
He's right, and I didn't even get placed there

>>713911670
I don't see why you're ok with the people richer than you getting taxed out the ass when you yourself aren't. Given enough revenue you'd pull all the stops they do too.

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literally best pic i've ever seen in one of these threads

>>713910581
Lol no. You don't understand the test. This means he wants the government out of social issues, but he is okay with massive government distribution of wealth. Anyone well into the green quadrant is basically the stereotypical "muh weed" Bernie voter.

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huh...

>>713912444
Checkem

>>713912662
It means you only like half a dick in your boipucci, but not the whole thing.

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Tbh i do just wanna smoke pot

>>713912510
But they weren't nearly as inhibiting to business and taxes weren't nearly as detrimental to the business

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>>713912444

>Dead center on anarchism
I guess the punk spirit never left me, even in old age.

>>713912581
This is pretty biased. I don't understand what makes this "the best."

>>713912581

>implying every member of the libertarian right doesn't live in the deep woods under the weight of several severe mental disorders

Delusion is not to be trifled with.

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Lol, all of you people hate freedom. Get on my level.

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I would consider myself an anarchist, so I am cool with this result. Not sure if I am that extreme though.

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Communism is the best ism

LIBERALS SUCK ASS AND YOU KNOW!

>>713911899
Only a select few people don't want to work, and those who don't get punished.
You still have the right to choose how to live your life.
You still have personal freedoms.
Try pointing to some other examples than regimes.
Try recognising how the current capitalist regimes control the world's populace and actively conduct operations to destroy communistgovernments.

>>713913017
>implying that's not the way to live

>>713912621
The test is about as accurate and useful as the teeny bopper magazine love compatibility tests.

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>>713905494

>>713911655
I'm not arguing that the rich don't do any work; they problem is that the rich and the poor do the same amount of work (in most cases) and they are still the rich and the poor.

>>713913145
I'm not that guy, but how are these people punished? How will you determine who deserves punishment? Simply saying they will be punished is not a solution.

>>713912329
The reason the economy is so bad nowadays is because of the fact that the entire world has a worse economy (as per overpopulation and other reasons). Also a problem is the mismanagement by capitalist governments

>>713912444

perhaps, I'm on track to retire at 55 if I want, but I think i'll work till 60 or so.

I agree with you, being content with less is a good way to live life. I don't have fancy cars, or a giant house. I'd like a different one self sustaining out in the country with my wife later, but thats a different goal. I however will work my hands to the bone to provide the best for my children. When one of my kids get's into MIT or Harvard, I will not stand by and tell them I don't have the money to send them, that leaves me in this fucked up situation where I'm giving away a massive amount of money for nothing.

If you work and don't take from the system, great. If you pay taxes, also great, I wish all of us, under that 20 million mark had to pay a lot less.

>>713913235
>The test doesn't support my preconceived views of the world
>It therefore is garbage
Lolz, you liberals truly live in your own little worlds.

>>713913145
But what about the severe lack of happiness in lots of communist places and the very very consistent trend where we see those in power become wealthy and the underlings poor. What about Stalin killing a TON of people. What about communism never working. I'm not saying communism in theory wouldn't work I am saying however that it depends on the good of the common man and those in power something that is almost impossible to expect as people suck dick. Also punishing those who don't want to work is an inhibition on freedom. And dictatorships jailing journalists and controlling presses.

>>713913321

So we should pay neurosurgeon as much as a burger flipper because thats "the same amount of work" If you're measuring "work" in just hours, well comrade, I have no other rebuttal than, you're tarded.

>>713912621
Bro Bernie is like... slap bang in the middle.

>>713913490
Oh yeah hear we reach common ground. Fuck government in general it insuring bank accounts is bullshit. Again I support smaller state governments that merely control services and limited infrastructure not the populous and how they live their lives.

>>713912839

Businesses haven't proven that they deserve exemption from excessive inhibition. Businesses are continuously seeking ways around perfectly reasonable regulatory laws. They simply can't be trusted to operate responsibly, so they continue to face increasingly draconian artificially imposed restrictions.

>>713913538
I bet you take every facebook quiz.

>>713913406
The same way any other criminals are punished?

>>713913590

Too many facts, you need more feels to argue with the leftists.

Very few people actually want to work. You think I'd be at my job tomorrow if I got the same check show up or not? People really think we (the average) do it for the good or our hearts and not the paycheck? /b/ros, come on.

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>>713905494
two years ago i was deep into purple territory. now this.

>>713913538
All he said was that the test isn't useful. If you want to disagree with that, why not provide an actual counterpoint?

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I don't know why I ended up so far left. The religion questions might have had something to do with that.

>>713912329
Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are worker owned. This means that the workers own the work place. The workers take home the full value and/or the full product of what they create, whichever is applicable to the particular situation.
Assuming you're referring to the USA, no, we were NOT left in the 50s and 60s. Ever hear of the second red scare? That started in the 40s and lasted through the 50s. That was THE FEAR of the left. Liberals are not the left, they're centre-right. They support a welfare-capitalist state.
The left does not inherently support or oppose minimum wage laws, the left supports worker ownership of the means of production. What we presently have is private ownership of the means of production. Private ownership = workers are paid for less than what their labour is worth, and the leftover is pocketed by the owner. What happens after that is dependent on a few different factors. Small business? A lot of small businesses where I live actually reinvest their money into expanding. This isn't ideal (a lot of leftists despise even small business owners but i've found that they're generally very fair towards their employees so I dont have much of an issue save for the fact that they're still bourgeoisie), but it's better than simply pocketing the money, which by the way is how most large corporations end up using their money
there's probably a million different issues I could go into, honestly. If you have any specific questions, ask and if I have an answer, I'll answer. I don't know everything, and I still have a lot of reading to do, though.

>>713913590
I ceebs giving examples of capitalist genocides.
Give evidence of a severe lack of happiness?
Have you seen a USA wealth inequality graph?
What makes you think communism hasn't worked?
What makes you think communists jail any more people than capitalists?
P.S., living off of public resources as a collective of everyone working is a crime, so punishment is not an inhibition of freedom. And if you don't work and you don't get any money, the you will die.

>>713913747
But this will not solve issues. If corporations would do this what is to stop them from moving to a separate country with a more lax set of laws. And hence losing hundreds if not thousand of jobs. And while I do agree there are important regulatory laws I do not oppose all of them, but I do support a relatively free market. The safety of the workforce is first priority then the companies but the safety of the workforce extends only to them not having probable risk of dying upon attending their job.

>>713913685
No. Bernie is strongly pro weed and anti interventionist/military in general. That would put him far down. He also supports massive government welfare and extreme taxes on the wealthy to provide for wealth redistribution. That puts him far left. The sum is he is deep in the green quadrant. I hope you are just a contradictory troll, because I otherwise shudder at what you would consider far left.

>>713913731

just jumping in here, but insuring bank accounts is bullshit? Nigga you need a history lesson. The reason bank accounts are insured is because of the stock market crash of 1929. When the market crashed on Black Tuesday millions of people rushed to the banks to withdraw their money. Banks don't keep that much cash on hand, so people were being denied their own money in their accounts.

>>713913812
I don't even understand that comeback.

>>713913931
You're right I'll speak his language
>MUHHhhhhh no money
>Muhhhh daddy government takes away neet bucks
>Muhhh i dont want to work
>Muhhhh 1%

>>713913667
No. From each according to his means; to each according to his needs. I'm not claiming surgeons do the same work as burger flippers. I'm saying that that is the same amount of work relative to what they can produce

>>713913857
How do you quantify who doesn't want to work? Now, how exploitable is this? What's the absolute minimum I am allowed to work and be compensated? Will I be punished? If I violated these rules, will I be jailed? Will I be executed? What defines work?

This is the kind of inane shit that you have to deal with when solving these problems. I don't think you've addressed these issues at all.

Saying they will be punished the same way other criminals are punished is refusing to think on the matter, in my opinion.

>>713912329
I would think that the problem lies with automation to a large extent. If you get more work done per hour, it means that the labor pool increases, and an employer can pay you less, especially if you gut unions.
I'm pretty sure that worker productivity has absolutely skyrocketed since the 60's

>>713913959
That's not all he said. The entire crux of his argument was dismissing a legitimate explanation of political ideology he happened to disagree with by saying: "oh yeah, but that test is meaningless!!!"

>>713914140
He is subjectively left compared to the rest of American politicians, but in actuality he is in the middle of the political spectrum. America is just a capitalist haven that distorts that.

>>713914003
baby's first Marx

>>713914462
cuck

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>>713905615
>ITT: liberals
I told you mane, I know my /b/.
See:
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>meh
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>>713914462

Every time, this thread. Alt-right is a meme. /b/ has always been liberal. """alt-right""" more like "alt-wrong."

>>713913667
A neurosurgeon cannot exist without nurses, medical equipment, a hospital, a means of reaching the hospital, etc.

I wouldn't argue that everyone deserves the same pay, but you're a faggot if you think that the higher up positions can exist without those down below.

>>713914003

I would ask this though (pretty left myself here). In a worker owned means of production society the worker then must assume the same risks as a business owner does, therefore if the business is not successful then they are not only out a job, but their stake in the means of production. Whereas in privately owned means of production the worker does not assume the same risks. How is worker owned means of production not inherently riskier than privately owned means for the worker?

>>713914293
Well if you're not working, you won't be paid for your work.
Since the state does all the paying, there is no welfare.
So... RIP if you're not working.
Of course, if you're truly unable to work, then you will be supported, just like those people who are truly unable to work are supported today.

>>713914458
All right, you hang out in your beloved communist cuckistan. I will stay here in America, where we believe in allowing economic prosperity and innovation.

>>713914293

This is where we get the term planned economy from communist countries. Every aspect of the workplace and economy must be fairly planned out and executed by the government.

>>713910830
true base bro

>>713914782
>cuck
>innovation
How about you innovate a new buzzword that's not a projection of your own sexual insecurities.

>>713914521
What do you attribute the highly Lib with the loudest being the alt-right?(not stormfront, but enough)

>>713914450
I mean, I didn't scroll up, and I guess I won't. It sounded to me like he was saying the test was useless without providing a reason as to why. Is dismissing the results of a test without a reason a thing that we would all agree is acceptable? Am I interpreting the situation incorrectly?

>>713914782
My country is quite right-wing in general, actually.
Maybe present some evidence in stead of solely accusations with no material to spport it?

>>713915012
The alt-right are foreign to this site, they are newfag shills that post here in waves for propaganda, sadly a lot of anons fell for it. That's how Trump was elected.

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What does this mean? Does it state that adults should be allowed to view pornography as opposed to no-one or as opposed everyone? This is a rather ambiguous question.

>>713915144
I just want to note that Clinton is just as much of a right-winged pig as Trump.

>>713914594
Faulty logic. The neurosurgeon is what creates all those assistant jobs. Without the neurosurgeon there would be no brain surgeries. So therefore all the nurses and assistants would not have nothing to do.
It's the same in the business world. Sure a Walmart can't run without cashiers, but none of those cashier jobs would exist, if Sam Walton had not created the company.

>>713914180
Yeah but I'm referring to the government bailing out banks which it shouldn't do. This opposes the free market. If companies are to fail they are to fail and the insurance of bank accounts means that the government needs to spend tax payer dollars to do that.
>>713914112
The USA wealth inequality graph is a product of capitalism and arguably not an issue I'll leave you with a test
>Demonstrate communism working
>Protip you can't
>>713914003
But this opposes industry and innovation. I have no motivation to create something if it will just be pocketed by my workers. There is no reason for me to actually work and contribute to society when I can live under much less. I would merely need to create what I need to survive. You can argue that innovation would be a byproduct of me trying to make my life easier but without a direct profit I think this would happen much less. However you clearly are significantly more well versed on this then I am though you have not swayed my beliefs.

>>713915230

theyre basically asking if porn should be legal the way it is now(in america)

>>713915230
Agreeing to this means that pornography should be legal for adults to view.
Disagreeing means that pornography should be illegal for adults to view.

>>713911655
i wish i could employ simple people.

the fucking college graduates that apply are autistic as shit.

>IT

no background needed. just an idea to question what exists and not give a shit when bullshit gets you out of your chair.

>>713915230
Are you that dense? it's straightforward.

>>713915343
>>713915346
I see, thankyou.

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bamb

>>713915011
>Dodge his points and call him insecure
>That will show him
I will wait for a legitmate retort to my argument.

>>713915144
I felt that the sentiment was alive well before the Alt-right term came into common vernacular.

>>713915280

so what youre saying is that if a bank fails, and lets be clear here youre not investing in the bank because you think it has sound business principles, or is innovative in anyway, you just want a place to keep your money, that you should lose everything you have in your account?

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>>713915425
only a cuck would resort to logic

>>713915280
Please explain how welath inequality is bad?
Mate, the only reason I can't give a good example of communism working in an entire state better than capitalism is because of 1) The active efforts of USA government to destroy communist countries and 2) the fact that they only large communist countries were engaged in large arms races that were economically damning for both sides. The CSSR, though, was doing quite well for itself in the late 20th century, before its administration collapsed.

>>713915100
Okay, so you are a commie in a right wing country. That doesn't change anything about this discussion. You still need to provide examples of how socialism has benefitted anyone in the long run.

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>>713910629
I'm pretty happy where I stand, then.

>>713915241
Hillary has her own shills too though active on 4chan and Reddit and similar sites (Correct The Record). Trump pays his shills out of pocket change. But there has never been the amount of bootlicking of a president ever until Trump came, that's because all the Trump bootlickers are as new as they come. Again, /b/ has always been liberal, always leaned more to the left, always been libertarian, rather than authoritarian. If Anonymous (Project Chanology-Anonymous hacktivism) is the most true to self meme that went offline, then alt-right is the most newfaggotest of the newfag memes that went offline.

>>713915607
*Is not bad

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not what I expected at all

>>713913897
I'm in the "muh weed" section and I don't smoke nor want to smoke weed

>>713915642
I'm not a socialist, I'm a communist

>>713915580
Oh no I was referring more to investment banking and the stock market I'm way too fucking baked for political talk rn.

>>713915798
>generalising is generalising

Shocker

Meh, I didn't care who won, we're all still fucked. I just voted Trump because I knew it would piss more people off. Watching the "Loss Triggerings" made it totally worth it.

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>>713915541
Which is how I know you're a newfag.
>what is ironic racism

Stormfront saw this ironic racism, thought it was real and flooded this site (along with Jews who manipulate them to do their bidding) with actual racism.

It's not racism to point out all the truth about Jews though. The very essence of these people is a blatant lie and they lie about everything. Ashkenazis are not even descended from Hebrews. Converting to a religion doesn't change your genetics to be descended from a people.

>pic related

>>713915843

then by all means, yes, let them fail

>>713915591
do u know what cuck means

>>713915607
Well because if inequality is a byproduct of innovation and those performing well then there is no issue with it. If I can look up at someone and say "wow they made it big" on just there smarts and wit then that's a good form of government. By encouraging this type of innovation and business practice you allow people to dream to grow. I do think that people who get there money from daddy and spend it on frivolous shit don't deserve it but retards like that will just contribute to more buisnesses for them to make it big. At the end of the day the flow of wealth to those that produce a product that is desired is a good thing

>>713916142
Yeah but I ain't resorting to logic

>>713915931
No fucking shit Sherlock

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Fuck ye

>>713916110
I do believe however that banks with people's money in it should stay as is regardless of outside influence. But only cucks use banks, cash and a gun my mans

>>713914507
my first marx was years ago my man
>>713914693
It is riskier, absolutely. That's just a price to pay though. I forget who said it, but one of the founding fathers(?) said something to the effect of "those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither" and i feel like this applies here, as well.
>>713915280
If you, as an individual, only want to produce what you need to survive, that's perfectly acceptable. However, I'd like to point out that most major innovations under capitalism were created in order to produce higher profits, not for the benefit of those around them. While many of these innovations HAVE made life easier, there are other things that would make life easier but cut into profits of different industries (no funding for nuclear fusion research is one of these, it's (profected to be) cheaper in the long term to put funding into fusion but it's cheaper in the short term and more positively impactful on oil and coal companies to continue to use coal and oil)
Also, swayed or not, you were quite pleasant to have a discussion with.

>>713915819
Okay, so you are even more extreme. Name one example of communism working. I'll wait, while I remember the extreme poverty and humans rights violations perpetuated by China, Cuba, North Korea and the Soviet Union.
And before you bring up the "but it works on paper" argument, please spare me.

>>713916052

This site has been garbage past the first 2 years of it's existence. for you to pride yourself on the longevity of your time wasted on this site then have at it.
I'll look into the literature

>>713915642
Im not the dude you responded too

But Cuba offhand is a situation where i personally would say it worked.
Cuba being a third world country has one of the top medical systems in the world, a very good and developed educational system that allows all citizens free education including university.
Their foreign aid system is more effective than the united states when it comes to actually physically being there and helping, the USA gives a fuckton more in terms of money
Cucky to say this but all the bad you hear about cuba is american propoganda, the first hand stories you hear from the cubans that fled are the victims of Fidels paranoia, i do not deny his dictatorship and the killing of thousands of innocents but when 600 assasination attemps have been made i dont blame the guy either for being paranoid.
Also china has a socialist economic policy and they have the top economy in the world, but that wealth dosent go to the poor

this test is a fucking prank

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Im actually less liberal than when i last took this

>>713916695
Your dad nutting inside your whore mom was a prank. I told that bitch it was just a prank bro. But here you are, son.

>>713916478
I believe we were making the exact same point under the different political persuasion. I was trying to say that capitalism drives the profit driven expenditures and socialism prevents them and you said the opposite.

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Hey, I wish I lived in the 18th century.

>>713916647
They've were trying to topple him for so long for a reason. Everyone is arguing over what's right that they can't consider that multiple methods can work.

>>713916647
Oh shit nigga TOP MEDICAL CARE IN CUBA WEEEEEEEE
Literally google cuba hospitals
>inb4 capitalist media

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Is this bad? I'm not even Christian.

>>713916935
To the americans Cuba could not be allowed to live. It stood for everything that the americans were against and they couldnt let them influence any more countries

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>>713916149
Inequality means that poor people are poorer, and rich people have way more than they need.
Inequality as a product of innovation doesn't exist in a communist syste,m

>>713917034

its tough when a country like cuba thats been stuck in the 1970s because the american economic sanctions is rated 2 spots behind the american medical system

>>713917189
I take one look at china and I'm glad it ain't us though. blind luck decides your future there.

>>713916478

Why not then have the government assume risk? sure its the taxpayer in the end that does, but the country as a whole is much better equipped to handle a loss than a small group.

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21 M
I work
I school
I play games and learn for fun

Nice to meet you guys.

>>713916647
False. The average Cuban wage is $19 per month. All of the nation's wealth is controlled by a few communist party elites. I suppose their health care and education might be all right. But who cares? There are no political or economic freedoms for people outside the few elites.
Cuba was the fastest growing economy in the world in the 1950s, before Castro and Che Guevara killed thousands (possibly millions) in their violent communist revolution. Now it is a stagnant economy where the average person is in poverty and 1950s cars dominate the roads.
You are right about China having income inequality. You are wrong about it being the biggest economy, the US is still the biggest economy by far. Also, China has 1.5ish billion people. A large GDP isn't the result of communism, but merely a huge population, which has benefitted recently from mixed economy stances.

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>>713917441
>Best medical systems in world
>Shitty hospitals
>Muhhhh economic snactions
>BEST MEDICAL SYSTEMS IN WORLD
Pick one

>>713917812
Actually fun fact health care and education are actually shit too

>>713917812
*doesn't even inflation adjust average wage*
*doesn't know what sanctions are*

>>713917874
Propaganda

That's condoleezza rice

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>>713905494
>Tfw I'm actually somewhat left wing

I voted for Gary Johnson.

>>713917934
I know that. I was merely making the point that it wouldn't matter if they were good, because living in Cuba would still be Hell.
It's like saying I get stabbed every time I go to the restaurant down the street, but they have good fries, so it's a nice place.

>>713917812
kind of funny that the economy halted right when the economic sanctions were put into effect isnt it
probably just a coincidence right

>>713916478
Thought you might find this to be interesting reading.
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

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>>713905494

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>>713918939

Heyyy you're identical to me.

>>713918427
Kind of funny the economy halted right when authoritarian communism was put into place, probably just a coincidence right

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>>713905494

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Use spekr, it's better.

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>>713909851
"Evenly"
Is that why social security and Medicare are such great success?

>>713910386
Implying tens of thousands means shit in a government focused on millions and billions

>>713910403
Left- wrong
Right- wrong
Middle- just right

>>713916490
It works on paper

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A healthy majority land in the green, myself included. All the "rational" folks must be asleep. Oh, what a world.

>>713920084
>the only pics like this that exist
Because they were used as cannon fodder, as useful idiots who the Nazis would've later exterminated had they have won the war.

>>713921072
Proof?

>>713921280
Google the "Rhineland bastards"

They were sterilizing the Afro-Germans while the war was going on. They at least would've let the blacks live out their lives until they all died, but they were sterilized so they wouldn't continue their race. It's the Jews they wanted to end right there and then on the spot. They could've easily killed the blacks too, but they didn't. But they did plan on exterminating the blacks and other races through sterilization. Also Hitler would've eventually turned on the Japanese and other allies had he conquered all of Europe and Russia. He was seeking world domination through military conquest but failed miserably.

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I did this shit a long time ago

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how'd i do boys

>>713913490
I think that has a lot more to do with the interference by the fed gov into the market. I'm much more (but not full) decentralizing of power. State entities are more in tune with their peoples needs. Being beholden to the fed gov makes it harder for them to serve their constituents needs. Decentralization of this power would make it easier for states to manage the issues of mismanagement.
Also the fact that the market can get fucked because banks essentially gamble with people's money is so fucked up.

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Figured

>>713913491
After reading a lot of what you've said, you're legit one of my favorite people. I wish a lot more people see things the way you do here.

It's hardly surprising that most people on this board are the left leaning variety considering it's a board dedicated self hating faggots who like to trap-porn and adults who watch Asian cartoons meant for children, throw in some edgy rekt threadz and 'wut r u somking 2nite /b/' and you have the shittest board out there. When was the last time something funny happened around here?

>>713913931
I wouldn't necessarily say all workers would stop, but quality of work would hit rock bottom. If there's no incentive to make better shit, why do it?

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>>713905494

>>713924717
>thinking liberal/left is the same thing as "progressives"
>thinking all of 4chan has the same political opinion as /pol/
>thinking /b/ doesn't know and take pride in being the shittiest board.

>>713924943
link?

>>713925092
what kiddie porn cartoon is your fav?

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Scotfag here.

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>>713925206
Loli hentai, same as the rest of /b/ :^)

>>713924064
Do you know what the Articles of Confederacy were?

>>713914458
Not quite true, then he'd have a lot more values like myself. And I oppose a lot of what plans he had.

>>713914736
But these systems are ALREADY under heavy abuse, what stops that from being any worse?

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Rate me

Pinochet did nothing wrong

>>713914932
Fairly and government shouldn't be in the same sentence lol

>>713926035
beautiful

>>713926035
Right answer
>>713926542
t. Ayn Rand

Shit. I thought I was a Center Rightist.

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>>713926907
Forgot image.

>>713907115
Nice oxymoron, faggot.

Fascism is entirely based on rejecting capitalism and socialism.

>>713927131
And therefore it is inherently superior.

>>713927459
Idiot

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is this good?

>>713928926
How?

>>713907438
Same dude

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>>713908911
There's no way I'm this close to Ghandi with this much hate for the human race...

>>713926027
Because you will die if you are able to work and choose not to for no good reason?