head of treasury is Goldman Sachs banker and George Soros hedge

>>713820653
He meant he would get rid of idiots like you who have no understanding of finance or the economy.

>>713820653
Doesn't change anything
The fed's always been in the hands of small private families and the democratic process can't do shit.

Who could be better at draining the swamp than someone who has lived there?

It makes sense to get someone that knows all the dirty little secrets.

>>713820653
>"drain the swamp"
>what did he mean by this?

he meant business as usual for Republicunts.

his picks are all people who gave his capaing money - Ie gave him money, since he made a profit on his campaign.

they are all shills for big oil, big coal, big pharma, private education

they have been actively lobbying and lyaing about climate change, and driving down safety regulations. his transport pick is a murdering bitch who killed twelve miners by reducing saftey checks.

this is big money making more money by ripping off and privitising, and getting big tax breaks. Trumps family will get a $6million tax refund under his policy. you will get $20.

>>713820717
you think you understand finance and the economy - then you must be a millionaire if you support this fuckwit, because only millionaires will gain while the debt skyrockets and he fucks the environment.

>>713822052
Shillary lost. Stop being MentallyHill.

>>713820653
Get rid of the water and get right into the muck & mire.

>>713822052
This, this, and only this, and then this again.

>>713820653
He meant to say something that would sound good to the rubes so he could fleece them of their money and advance himself, just like everything else he said the whole campaign. The guy is a charlatan playing stupid people for suckers, and 46% of America bought it.

>>713822113
Right wing buzz words are edgier than a neckbeards katana.

IT'S OKAY GUYZ! HE'S JUST TROLLING!

>>713820653
your sweet tears.

>>713822466
Same with the leftards and the oh-so-clever terms like "Drumpf"

>>713820653
Your tears are delicious!

>>713823454
It's because we got big ass dicks and aren't morally inclined to put them anywhere specific.

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>>713822052
/thread

>>713820717
http://crfb.org/blogs/what-we-know-about-president-elect-trumps-agenda

These articles are published by a bi-partisan group of economists and former politicians, some of which have been hired by the House to analyze economic policy, and I urge you to read them. We just voted in a Republican that intends to spend literally twenty times more than his Democrat rival would have without anything to compensate for it.

>>713822113
I don't care that Clinton lost - what I care about is that Trump won, and will enable the greatest robbery and fuck over this country has ever seen.

Trumps team of thieves and shills make the Bush era Whitehouse look almost honest and impartial.

>>713824089
nope. Not supporting a fraud, con artist, and thief and liar, who is appointing people just like him to privitise (and rip off public money from ) education, health, the VA, and to lower safety standrds adn gut environmental protections, does not make me a Hillary fan.

sure she would have been better than any Republicunt - but any Democrat, Green party or just decent human being would be better than Hillary...

>>713820653
He meant that he was going to get rid of all the left/progressive/feminist types and put in place people who like they way things were...50 years ago, or longer.

The swamp just got 10 feet higher.

Believe me, its the best swamp

>>713822052
This. Worst thing will be watching morons cheer every shit sandwich we all have to eat and savor for the next 4 years.

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It's worth noting that Betsy DeVos has no background in education. Never once has held a position involving education, is pro for profit schooling, and did not send her children to public schools.

>>713824696
Even better - Devos gave $9.5 million to Trump for his campaign. And her husband is a creationist. and she has sponsoered legislation exempting private schools from standards checks.

she is going to privitise schools and let public money be poured into private pockets, and destroy the public education system.

>>713824696
He convinced these poor, dumb ass rednecks that he's "for them" and it was so fucking easy!

>>713824930

Because all he had to do is say a few things that the other republicans were not allowed to by their donors.

Build a wall and ban muslims

Trump is like Jackson, except without the good parts.

No duels. No closing the banks. No forced term limits. No white house keggers where literally anyone can party where the only way to get them out of the house was to provide whiskey outside the building.

Just positions being given to unqualified supporters, poor business sense and a lack of tact.

>>713825088
>Just positions being given to unqualified supporters, poor business sense and a lack of tact.

this. so much this.

>>713820653
>what did he mean by this?

he meant "pour money into my pockets and the pockets of my friends"

>>713821963
so you appoint swampers, and tell them to do stuff that is putting public at risk, and putting money into cronies wallets...

not much of an improvement

LOL you kids really think Trump is going to be president?

Hillary undisputedly won the popular vote. And after all that our military has sacrificed in the name of democracy, you think the electoral college is going to go against the will of the people? Think again, trumpkins

>>713826059
sadly, I was old enough to remember Bush - he got the college, not the vote - military won't do shit.

>>713825912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWToW9ZNOpo

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>>713820653
middle class about to be poor class, trump is charging the middle class more taxes and the poor people that thought they were going to get a better job will remain poor as fuck. Jeans, food, cost of living is going up as well thanks to you orange little dicked hero trump. thanks trump make America for only rich people again and idiot. Grab America by the pussy. trump and his butt hole looking face.

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>>713826059
KEK

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>>713820653
ALL trump SUPPORTERS ARE IDIOTS THE TIME WILL COME WHEN YOU'RE LIVING ON THE STREET BUT STILL HAPPEN THAT LITTLE DICK trump WON JUST BECAUSE ALL trump SUPPORTERS ARE FUCKING MORONIC IDIOTS. KILL YOURSELVES.

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>>713822113

If you don't want every nonwhite on the planet dead you are the problem.

>>713826636
yeah and she won that election by 3 million votes in the popular vote count.

time to give the "it was rigged" shit a rest. we have bigger problems now...

>>713822052
>sore loser
>still making predictions that mean nothing
2016 is the year everybody realizes all adults abandoned the left and it's just a bunch of jack offs

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>>713820653
trump fooled all you morons. Its all over the news has getting rid of the middle class and pensions hes also stopping trade with all countries which means higher cost for everything. That means you dumb asses will never make it out of your trailer park homes. dumb fucking trump supporters please kill all yourselves. I bet when all goes to shit it will be blamed on a colored person. People blame obama for war but stupid idiots forget that it was bush that sent Americans to war stupid fucks.

>>713826942
>on a colored person
body paint?

were you raised by obama or what, retard? racism is literally the least important problem anywhere in this country. you could predict that our problems will be blamed on cable companies and be closer to some kind of commentary on a social crisis.

>>713820653

>Sage goes in all fields.

>>713826940
this is why America is in such a fucked up state. People lik eyou who harp on the past - sore loser, no, lost, yes, but sore - move on. keep fighting the fight.

because my preferred candidate lost does not mean I have to just keep quiet for four years.

And meaningless predictions - when your cabinet picks have a twenty year history of action, adn you have given them goals that are the same as the shit they have been doing for twenty yers, it is pretty predictable what they are going to do...

so how about a real argument, not this shit then?

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>>713826940
see
>>713826736
guess an awful lot of kids voted

>>713827068
You're a fucking idiot 100% trump supporters little dicked and all. I bet they're selling out of orange paint at home depot. fucking beta.

>>713827131
>keep fighting
when your fight is in the form of obstructing traffic and calling everyone a sexist blablaphobe, you'll just keep losing. learn how to fight before you do it, dumbass.

>real argument
yeah, it's this: 100% of this super spooky shit you predict will not come true. your people are the conspiracy theorists now.

>>713820653
Maybe Trump thinks Shrek should get his shack back?

>>713827369
Listen, the guy ran on a platform of being anti-establishment, an outsider, and said he was going to "drain the swamp." And what has he done? Surrounded himself with the establishment. You fags keep moving the goal posts and defending this shit instead of holding him accountable.

I'm not going to pretend to know whats going to happen over the next four years, but it seems like it will be business as usual to me.

>>713820717
Lol. Ok random b/tard. Retards like you are right, and REPUBLICAN ECONOMISTS like Ben Stein are the idiots, right. You were fucking wrong about Trump. YOU get over it.

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>>713828334
b-b-but he's going to make america great again

>Vote Republican
>Get mad you have republicans in charge.

You can't have a one man revolution, you need new people to replace the old

>>713820653
he meant they gathered up all of the shit and now they know who you are and what you think. They are currently still deciding.

>>713826940
Trump lost the popular vote by quite a bit.

2016 will just go down as the year that it turned out middle America was really as stupid as having Honey Boo boo on the Learning Channel implys

>>713820653
i knew from the start he was going to end up being status quo the same as the shill
the only policy i want to see him keep is to treat with russia rather than start WW3 over a shithole like syria and a little bit of oil
other than that i literally dont care

>>713829431
Hillary wasn't going to start WW3 and you're a moron.

>>713820653
>financial elite = political establishment
When will you retards understand there's no "ruling class"
I thought people would understand when he picked Pence as his running mate

>>713829824
she wanted to put defense systems in syria and actively help the rebels over throw assad
putin has straight up said that doing these things to a russian ally would be an act of war and he would respond with war

>>713830173
>thinks presidents decide what is happening in syria

>>713828971
look at this tard. the strong vote for the uneducated whites won the election tells you there are a lot of idiots in American, white idiots.

>>713830173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWToW9ZNOpo

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>>713828971
ugly off spring.

>>713830376
>thinks commander in chief doesnt have a big say in what goes on with military

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>>713830477
Grab the pussy.

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>>713830639

>>713830483
Hillary wouldn't have "set up defense systems in Syria" you have no idea what is going on

>>713830670
i dont have the energy to read through articles
to find all the sources id need to get a hillary shill to stop talking so you just get a youtube video by someone i agree with on a political scale.
peace out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8TE_QMa3fw

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He's draining it straight into his cabinet.

>>713820717
Yeah. Good thing we have guys in there who have never behaved irresponsibly with their financial practices...oh wait.

Some of you cunts have severe memory problems.

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>>713830477

>>713830991
no, Hillary supporters don't know what is going on either. trump or Hillary Syria will be the same, you don't know what is going to happen it will merit a strong response

>>713820653
He meant that he it could help him get elected if he pissed on wall street and Washington 'insider elites'...but that he actually is part of that system.

>>713824641
And then inexplicably blame it on blacks/Muslims/liberals/unions when it blows up in their face

>>713830173
Way to be influenced by Russian posturing/bullying. Useful idiot

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>>713820653

he doesn't know. installing other people for his cabinet (which happens anyway)? or he's just making more shit up? whatever other weird bullshit he's tweeting about?

>>713830991
>dont have the energy
Low energy voter detected.

>>713820653
Nothing.

>>713831421
if we are to go into any heated conflict with russia we will undoubtedly win through any conventional means russia knows this if things with russia get bad enough that they will go to war with us it will beyond any shadow of a doubt go nuclear.

>>713821963


Let the fox guard the hen house. You are seriously naive

BTW, Trump asked you to march off a cliff

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>>713828334
>You fags keep moving the goal posts and defending this shit instead of holding him accountable.


HAVEN'T HEARD A TRUER STATEMENT ON /b in over a year

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You got so fucking played by this guy, and he's already backing out of his campaign promises. He's not even in office yet, you fucking retards. I. Told. You. So. Mother. Fuckers.

>>713826634
but hey, fuck sjws, amirite?

>>713820653
Well obviously he would hire someone who knows how to make money. Did you expect him to choose a man who had failed all his life? Libtards are so fucking stupid. The cabinet isn't one of your participation trophies.

>>713831706

So how far do we let Russia go then? They can just say that anything we do will be regarded as an act of war and people like you will just back off and say
>yessir, please continue ramming my asshole sir.

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>>713831887


finally someone has outdone me! kek

>>713829431

seconded, but most likely he'll just be taken advantage of because he refuses to believe he can be wrong. russia clued in on that methinks.

>>713820653
>literally anyone else in politics
OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE HE'S HIRING JEWISH INSIDER TRADERS BIG BUSINESS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE
>Trump hires a bunch of insiders to """"""""drain the swamp""""""""
>He's a visionary, and just what this country needs. SHILLARY SUPPORTERS BTFO
You Trump supporters are the real people getting cucked, in the sense that there was a promise of stuff you wanted, but other people are reaping the rewards while you jack yourselves off in the corner.

>>713823641
you're* you dumb fuck retard trump faggot

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I think this is as close as /b/ has ever come to a consensus.

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>>713831887
BUILD THAT FENCE!

>>713832195
sjws triggered lol

>>713832090
yes because russia is one fucking us.
america has been fucking russias economy without lifting a finger since ukraine
we started doing this by simply placing embargoes on russian trade goods
treating with russia for a change rather than continuing to fuck them seems a small price to pay

>>713832301
nice samefagging

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>>713832380
hurry up and die, grandma. im sick of you cancelling out my vote.

>>713820653
Goldman Sachs is passionate about fighting corruption. Maybe do a google search before jumping on the bandwagon redditfag

>>713832552

Goldman Sachs is synonymous with corruption. Were you around in 2008?

>>713832664
He was eight years old then dude, he had no comprehension of the financial crisis.

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>>713832547

Average Trump supporter: "What are shoes for"

>>713824696
Good. I'd rather not send my kids to public school either. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the best and brightest people in society always find a way to make money and that it wouldn't be smart to have a government run by people who have a net worth of $50k?

>>713832924
I agree, public school is shit. The best and brightest don't need all that liberal propaganda poured into their heads. They'd be able to make money even if they had no "education" at all. You just have to work hard, seize oppurtunities, and keep an inquisitive mind. That's one of the beauties of capitalism.

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>>713832894
>Average Trump supporter

>>713832924
No, the people that make a lot of money have a combination of connections, self-worth, luck and opportunity. Being 'best and brightest' means almost nothing if you don't have at least 3 out of 4 of those.

>>713832924
>Did it ever occur to you that maybe the best and brightest people in society always find a way to make money and that it wouldn't be smart to have a government run by people who have a net worth of $50k?
Did it ever occur to you that if you populate a government with the 1%, who have always lived lives of privilege, they will have so little in common with the bulk of the population that they will not understand their lives and problems?

>"They have no bread? Let them eat cake"
Those who don't understand history are condemned to repeat it

>>713832924
>>713833114

You sound like both entitled pricks and people that have never actually been to private schools. Most of them are religion oriented.

>>713833344
They don't need to understand our lives or problems, as long as they implement conservative policies, which are inherently designed to solve problems universally, across all denominators.

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>>713833114

And this one doesn't have kids.

Just stopped in to remind people that there have been wealthy people as long as there has been money. Generally the wealthiest have existed during times of prosperity. The government taking money the people who pay js will not make our lives better. It will be wasted on government guaranteed tuition non emergency emergency room visits for the uninsured beurocracy and getting reelected. Capitalism works if its not bogged down by halfway socialism and a government with enough power that its worth buying. By drain the swamp he means back track on some of the ridiculous trade restrictions our lawmakers have put in place for personal profit the self defeating tax code the perpetual debt machine that is the fed and the banks the government insuring megacorporations like GM and the banks in 2008 and a thousand other things that are making us all poorer.

>>713833483
>conservative policies
>inherently designed to solve problems universally, across all denominators
choose wisely.

>>713833575
A false dichotomy is a formally recognised logical fallacy.

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>>713833571
which one are you?

>>713833575
Liberal ideas come from academia and "experts," both of which are constantly making mistakes and being proven wrong. Conservative principles are firmly rooted in Biblical principles, which stand forever. God's design for government and humanity is found in conservatism.

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>>713833571

That read like my uncle the conservative drunk at a christmas party right before he throws up.

>>713833719

Shit, I didn't bring my tie.

>>713833185
>>713832773
trump supporters always claim they're peaceful. lies lies n more lies

>>713833483
"Problem": Too many black people are voting.
Conservative "solution": Voter suppression!

You're right, very universal. This solution could be applied to any denominator.

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>>713833761

>>713833903
If niggers can't get off their asses to get a goddamn driver's license, that's their problem, not mine

>>713833761
>Conservative principles are firmly rooted in Biblical principles, which stand forever. God's design for government and humanity is found in conservatism.
You just have to be shitting me.

If not, no wonder he won........

>>713833483
Dipshit has no clue how the economy works. Remember how well trickle down economics works? Oh right it doesn't.

>>713833758
I don't understand why you would rather the government have your bosses money than your boss. If you don't feel like Youre getting payed enough you can just find another job or learn a skill. Making money is not difficult.

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>>713834018
b8

>>713833983
Ahh, straight to the poll taxes, nice. Suitably regressive!

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>>713834134
"making money." "is not."
"difficult."
I want to kick you in the dick until the sun explodes.

>>713834155
I really, really hope so. Bu then again, Trump did win by telling blatant falsehoods and making promises he can't and won't keep, so......

>>713834088
Trickle down economics is a buzzword for normal capitalism and it hasnt even been tested out since the 50s. Socialism cant work in a democratic society and it double cant work in tandem with capitalism because then youve got the government leaching in all the money where trying to earn for ourselves and wasting it on the 999999999999999999 different things the voters want and getting reelected.

>>713834432
>things the voters want
>the voters
doesn't this include you? if government is spending money on things you want, isn't that a good thing?

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>>713834299
But it's not difficult.

>>713834299
Its not. It takes effort, sure. But just working and not spending money on anything but what you need is pretty easy.

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>>713834305
This electoral college nonsense has been getting on my nerves for a while now. How is a republic supposed to function accurately if the popular vote goes to one candidate but another is elected? It seems simple to me. And give us the damn day off if election day is still going to be on Tuesday.

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>>713834305
>b-but muh wall!

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>>713834615
>>713834580

Okay, age gap at play. Elderly parents here. My money is not always my money, and everyone is there eventually

>>713834432
>Trickle down economics is a buzzword for normal capitalism
except it doesn't work, as the growing divide in wealth shows.

The issue is not the true entrepreneurs. The issue is the growing management class who seem to be able to have salaries and bonuses that both grow annually and get paid out irrespective of the wealth and happiness of their workforce or how much shareholder value they destroy. They get golden handshakes when the arrive and often a golden parachute (or gagging clause) when the leave having partially sunk the ship, only to pop up later on the board of another Fortune 500

>>713834536
Well in a vacuum sure, honestly though i dont want government spending money on anything but the military the police, and infrastructure And i want them spending way less on the military. I was just saying i think socialism really only has a chance in a totalitarianism that way the money isnt wasted. If youre going to be democratic do capitalism.

>>713834625
Welcome to non-proportional representation. We Brits have suffered it for years

>>713834813
I dont really understand anything you said other than "age gap at play" but for the record im 23

>>713834942
I need to study up on your election/voting system. I got pretty interested with the Brexit movement but never followed through.

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>>713832552
I thought that too, before the bombs fell

>>713834864
But we dont have capitalism. We have croney capitalism. The government is so huge that if you make enough money youre basically part of it. The reason these people are able to exist is because the government is supporting these huge multinationals that could never hold up on their own. Its like the housing bubble in 2008 only on a much bigger scale. The free market would destroy these people.

>>713821963
who better to stop me from cheating on my wife than the woman i've been fucking on the side.
i should go talk to her.

>>713835097
Brexit was an anomaly, as it was a referendum. Normally we vote for MP (a bit like your electoral college) but the actual MPs become the equivalents of your Congressmen and the largest party gets to elect a leader (or, more accurately, has one going into the vote) and also is asked to form a government. The party leader becomes Prime Minister.

We don't have the equivalent of your presidential elections as we don't have a presidential system. Unsurprising when you consider that the Founding Fathers were trying to escape our system.

>>713834432
Trickle down economics is not normal capilism. Normal capitalism is the idea that money is free to move. No one side (workers or management) gets help from the government. Trickle down economics favors putting money in the hands of the rich so that they will spend it and therefore more free capital for the workers. It's been proven to be ineffective since the weather tend to save not spend extra money. As they should as this is beneficial microeconomic strategy. It's dosnt work in the Macro though

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>>713835046
Okay I'm 35 and I have older parents that need care, so the money I make is earmarked for them first, myself second. It's similar with guys with kids and wives and the like, was my point. I make a good deal on paper, but I work in petroleum interests which are shit at the moment and, as a contract worker, could just not have my contract renewed like I've seen happen to my coworkers recently. Oil prices are at a low point (hopefully getting higher soon) so I just don't know.

>>713820653
hahahahahahaaha

ahahahahahaahaha
haha

ha
ha

heh

heh..


BAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

America = Cucked

>>713835402
That's interesting. Thanks for the rundown.

>>713835352
Actually a better analgy would be "who better to stop me cheating on my wife than myself" the swamp in question here is the governments influence on business. The government has such a gigantic and strong hand in business. I dont see why wanting more government interference in business is a good idea considering where its gotten us.

>>713835291
Conservatives hate this because "muh free market," and liberals hate this because "muh corporations," so why the hell can't we do anything about it? Is corruption really that strong?

I wish I could believe that Trump would do something about it, but his cabinet appointments and his lack of concern about his conflicts of interest aren't really giving me much hope

>>713835594
Government interference in business in not what got is here. Business interference in government has. Cleaning the swamp means getting rid of the corporate shills that reside on Washington, both parties are equally guilty, and replacing them with people who are subject to the will of the people not the will of corporate interests.

>>713835464
Trickle down economics is simply taking less money from the rich. Youre not making them richer youre just giving the government less of the money they earned.

>>713833761
please let it be b8, please let it be b8...

>>713822052
You actually have no understanding of the tax system. The 1% is not paying tax now, Trump is changing that by making tax affordable and creating laws that will make it more fun for the super rich to pay there tax for a change. Companies such as apple pay less then 3% now, thank to all the loops Clinton inc made for them.

And if you only knew how close the dollar is towards collapse.

Don't care about the US or Trump, but his policies will at least give the dollar more time.

>>713831887
no..no hes not. who told you that?

>>713820653
>"drain the swamp"
what's the point draining the swamp if you're going to refill it from the septic tank?

>>713835879
>laws that will make it more fun for the super rich to pay there tax
What did he mean by this

>>713835879
>Fun paying taxes

Sure

>>713835594
Most industrial businesses are deregulated now, energy and banking being the two big ones. With energy and manufacturing, they do have to answer to the EPA, which brings us back around... Donald Trump said he wants to disband the EPA.

>>713820653
he's draining the swamp and dumps the shitty water into his administration

>>713835637
Its not corruption hinestly its just a function of a society trying to be two things at once. Its decades of liberal presidents using the sources of money at their disposal to convert bits of our society to socialist and decades of republican ones trying hard to not let that happen. If we where fully socialist we wouldnt have rich people buying the governments power and if we where fully capitalist we wouldnt have power to buy fron the government. We've just reached a point now where we have to make a descision or collapse and its ugly.

WTF did you really think was goona happen, the fucking kid that gathers the shopping cart outside Walmart was gonna be put in charge of , well, ANYTHING of course he picked people with experience, everyone capable of doing this job is an establishment insider, you god damned faggot, fucking liberals cant figure even really simple shit out

>>713822052
That's a bingo! How Fun!

>>713820653
He lied. That's what he does, he lies.

>>713835781
Theyre the same thing, but what are you going to do? change the government or try and convince All now and future businessmen to change their practices? Youre not going to stop someone from taking action to get an edge. Especially if its legal and encouraged. The government wants the money the businessmen want the power. Their job is literally making trades for profit. Who would you rather have your money? A businessman or a politician?

>>713836052
what do you mean? i cum buckets every time i pay taxes. shit is SO CASH

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>>713833761

nice b8 m8 i r8 5/8

>>713835864
No, it doesn't work. It does just make them richer. Board members give themselves bonuses and annual raises when they already live in the 1%. Greed is like being drunk but with money, power and status at the same time. Altruism is gone at that point, and regulation is the only way to recirculate it to employees - not the salesmen at the Maserati dealership.

>>713836162
Your postakes no sense. And socialism isn't the opposite of capitalism. Communism is. Socialism mixed with capitalism is what the entire free world runs on.

>>713823908
Are you actually retarded?

>>713820653
>"drain the swamp"
Literally, draining a swamp was done to eliminate the sustaining force for mosquitoes in order to stop the spread of malaria. I think (hope) you can infer what this would mean in the intended context.

>>713836437
Me. I would rather I had my money. I would rather the government stop propping up failed business. I would rather there be campaign finance reform. I would rather my taxes be lowered I would rather the government stopped subsidies

>>713835879
Are you talking about the gold standard? Because the dollar is still the worlds currency without it. If the dollar collapses, everything collapses.

>>713836464
Whether the money goes to the employees or the salesmen at the Maserati dealership, it's still flowing into the economy. Why do liberals hate it when the rich decide what to spend their own money on?

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>>713836356
ugh

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>>713836717
Because trickle down economics meant that was my fucking money! And they took extra out of my paycheck for the government shutdowns! FUUUUUUUUUUU
(true story. I should have reported them.)

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I don't vaccinate my kids because fuck my kids.

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>>713836717
>Why do liberals hate it when the rich use loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of income taxes?
fixed

>>713837153
Money that goes to the government just gets wasted on useless programs like welfare for lazy niggers. The less the rich pay in taxes, the better, because then they can spend it on things that actually help the economy. When they buy yachts and big houses, then boat makers and construction workers get paid. That's what trickle down means.

>>713836717
Poor Liberals hate the rich because they aren't them. Rich conservatives hate the poor because they don't want to be them. Neither side wants to prop the other up. The middle class gets fucked by both the rich and the poor. By the way rich liberals and poor conservatives don't make any sense and vote against their own best interests

>>713837398
no it goes to the executives who employ boat makers and construction workers
the wealth doesnt trickle down more than needed to pay an acceptable wage, not a good wage

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>>713837398
>derp

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>>713837398

>>713836356
At the end of the day if you make the wrong choices your experience doesn't mean shit.

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>>713837780
>>713837811

>>713837398

>trickle down

Except that's wrong.

The very rich tend to hoard their wealth. You're right that they buy yachts and big houses, but this only helps those businesses that sell big houses and yachts. Smaller businesses and those that do not sell products for the super rich see no benefit whatsoever, which is most businesses.

Trickle down economics don't work; this has been known for decades now.

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>>713837811
>>713837811
>>713837780

>>713837468
because they are uninformed idiots
they stick with blind party lines instead of paying attention to policy

>this kills the america

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>>713835864
>>713836717
>arguing that trickle-down economics works

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>>713838011
>>713837985
>derp

stay ignorant

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>>713835864

Trickle down doesn't work. The opposite happens, wealth trickles UP.

In economics this is represented as r>g

The rate of return on wealth grows faster than an economy grows,

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>>713837993

They horde currency, not wealth. There's an important distinction there.

First of all, they don't usually keep the majority of their assets in bank accounts. Most of it is in stocks and such. Stocks in aggregate are called the "Gross private domestic investment" or GPDI/GPD. This is an important measurement of determining how much capital is available for new businesses to borrow.

Cheap loans are extremely important in opening new businesses, and so correlate with increase socioeconomic mobility.

Even if a billionaire keeps his money in a bank and doesn't own a substantial portfolio the bank is still going to use that money to invest. Typically they loan it out in what is called fractional reserve banking, where a bank only keeps about 3%-10% of their total assets in physical cash available for withdrawal.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly wealth is not constant. The total wealth of a society can increase or decrease based upon a number of factors. Wealth can be generated through technological advancement, infrastructure, businesses, housing, etc. General market expansion. Wealth can be destroyed by taxation, war, population contractions, emigration (not immigration, look it up), and trade imbalances.

Socialism destroys wealth. Russia had a shit standard of living until the fall of Communism, and still hasn't fully recovered. In the same time the US population went from 100 million to 300 million the Russian population went from 120 million to 140 million. The only reason they increased was technological advancement and proliferation.

>>713838098

>Changing definitions in order to win the argument

Socialism requires government interference in the free market. Otherwise you just have some form of capitalism.

>>713838816
>Socialism destroys wealth.

I think you're refering to "State Capitalism".

>Russia had a shit standard

It matched the West until the mid 1970s. It better education and life expectancy even in the '80s.

> until the fall of Communism, and still hasn't fully recovered

It's got worse. Thanks to crony Capitalism of the worst kind.

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>>713838903
some government interference in the free market is needed.
dipshit

ever wonder how the 40 hour work week came about?

>>713838903

There's no such thing as a "free market". It is an ideal that only exists in text books.

>>713836356
>promises to fight the establishment, drain the swamps, make everything great again
>o-of course I-i want him to put the same guys in charge as everyone else!

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>>713820653
When our Lord and savior Shrek returned to his kingdom found it over run with immigrants so he cleaned swamp and filled it with sexy ogera

>>713822052
lol as if hillary would've picked less disgusting aides

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Implying presidents get to pick who is in charge of the banks anyway.

Go buy some more tin foil.

>>713832773

you're an idiot generalizing, smug faggot eat shit

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>>713820653

Donald trump is freedom.
Way better than hillary

>>713833761

The fact that we will never know for sure if this is bait or real terrifies me in ways that I cannot cope with

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>>713836356

>when the goal posts instantly shift 10000 yards

>>713820653
He's already keeping his promise to bring American jobs back. He was working on fucking thanksgiving for this and he's not even in yet.
Trump's smarter than these guys, he plays 5d checkers on Twitter and styles on everyone. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Also you're a liar, FORMER Goldman Sachs banker.

>>713842473
He kept a whole 1000 jobs by dishing out a massive tax break. If that's not turning this country around, I don't know what is

>>713842689
>by dishing out a massive tax break
source or you're a lying fag.
And it's more than Obama did in 8 years to keep jobs in America.
lefties just mad their cult is falling apart.