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Why do liberals have such a hard time forming opinions on their own instead of just parroting the talking points fed to them by their favorite late night talk show hosts?
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>>713773312
lol the irony of a right winger sayng such hypocrisy is lulz worthy

10/10 fail rating
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When I was younger in the 2000's, conservatives were the dumbest and easiest to fool demographic. That has switched to SJW liberals. Not to say that there aren't plenty of dumb conservatives, there are. I'm just saying that liberals now tend to be completely brainwashed.
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>>713773312
now goback to your moms basement you virgin fag
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>>713774290

No I don't think that's true. I think you just matured. Most people tend to move right when they mature. I'm not talking about SJWs either. I just mean your run of the mill liberal. It seems like liberals don't read anything of substance or anything that challenges their ideology. They read everything inside their left wing bubble. new york times. washington post. huffington post. the gaurdian. The are all essentially the same. Where as most right people I know read those outlets to laugh at how stupid liberals are but also read Breitbart or National Review or American Renaissance. More diversity of thought.
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>>713775148
I don't think the Sanders types who stray from identity politics fit into that, but I mostly agree with you. There is definitely a maturity factor here. I really did become less liberal when I started working and supporting myself, experiencing more and meeting new people. So many people are irredeemable pieces of shit. Be it laziness, lack of morality, no regard for society etc. They cannot be changed.
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>>713773312
Are you just jealous that there are no funny conservatives?
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>>713775864
Bill Burr easily qualifies as a conservative by a lot of sjw definitions and he's one of the most popular comedians right now.
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>>713773312
Its the same thing most people who support any major news network do.
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>>713773312
Very true. I've even heard quite a few liberals epress guilt about reposting fake facts and stories and feeling like dipshits after.

Look at all the retards that supported Sanders, even after he was giving speeches about how there should be no big stable US banks. How the shit do you get through college or become a politician without ever taken an accounting or econ class?
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The thing I always go back to is how liberalism is always the way forward in the end. Liberal policies, over time, end up being the obvious when we look back in history. Voting rights of blacks and women. gay rights. The new deal. Being against war. pro immigrant. minimum wage. anti child labor. Anti drug war. You'd need to be a fucking retard to think conservatism has anything to offer the future besides stagnation.
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>>713773312
>Why do liberals have such a hard time forming opinions on their own instead of just parroting the talking points fed to them by their favorite late night talk show hosts?

Why do conservatives project so much?
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>>713776280
Well liberals are going backwards now. The SJW types do not want equality and the end of racism, they want racism against white people.

I want people to be judged on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin, and I was told that was dog whistle racism.
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>>713776201
actually statistics show that conservatives take in more fake news than liberals. I'm not just talking SJWs. liberals in general .
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>>713773312

because they are "educated".
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>>713776280
Liberals believe in gay marriage and transgender restrooms. Is that the future that you want?
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>>713776280
>Voting rights of blacks and women. gay rights.
his has had quite literally 0 benifit for america of than helping put liberals in office because it would help those same people live off the system and hard work of others
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>>713776465
I agree, but if you think SJWs are a majority of liberals and not just a loud minority on the internet, then you are wrong. I live in Washington, Liberals everywhere. I've only ever met one SJW type.
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>>713776383
Why don't liberals give a shit out their own country and their own citizens instead of a bunch of fuckers around the world that don't give a fuck about this country?
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>>713776201
I'm sure some sanders supporters got behind him, knowing a complete removal of a central U.S. banking system were aware that that wasn't likely to happen, but the rhetoric of it suggested bank reform which isn't an unreasonable position. Trump has said some inflammatory stuff but the underlying idea's are what people really heard, not what was said at face value. imo.
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>>713776835
Sauce?
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Have you ever considered that liberals watch the late night talk shows because they already agree with those opinions and like hearing them said by people on TV, and that the hosts are just pandering to their audience?
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>>713776713
I know plenty, maybe we have different ideas of what SJW means. Identity politics is a huge thing now. If you consider criticism of a religion or nationality "racism", you're an SJW. If you hold an idea that would have been fringe liberal less than 10 years ago, you are an SJW
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>>713776465
>mfw MLK is a racist.

kek
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>>713776510
statistics or "statistics" based on cherry picked results of on time studies on a small sample size?
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>>713776666
If you think gay, black, and womens rights are a bad thing then you are a dumb fuck. There is no point reasoning with you.The only thing we can do at this point is wait for your kind to die so that the youth can take over.
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>>713776880
Artist is Houtengeki.
Here:
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=Houtengeki&commit=Search
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>>713776144
He said Bernie Sanders was his fucking guy.
He ain't a conservative.
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>>713776889
Please focus your efforts to the following cancer threads:
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>>>/b/draw
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>>713776806
We do, that's why we didn't support the guy whose plans were to add 7 trillion more in debt while cutting taxes. Trump supporters hate America, because they voted to bankrupt it.
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>>713777073
No
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>>713776144
Saying that there are only 2 genders makes you a conservative to regressives. Don't define people by sjw newspeak
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>>713776806
>Why don't liberals give a shit out their own country
>>give a shit out their own country

Why don't conservatives know how to express even an overly simplistic idea without fucking it up?:

/you don't deserve better than anime, faggot
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>>713777059
And SJWs care more about identity politics than economic policy.
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>>713776976
>i cant refute him so ill insult him

ebin
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>>713776280
agreed. people are gonna look back to the times when rape and pedophilia and infanticide were still illegal and be like "oh shit i can't believe they held those values"

what's the limit to social liberalism? just catering to the way everybody feels and adapting the laws so that they can fit in society, including rapists and murderers? honest question here, really not trying to argue, because i need someone to explain to me how this degeneracy could be good for a stable society in the long run
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>>713777139
There are regressive authoritarians in every movement. Pinning SJWs as all liberals is as stupid as saying all white people are racist.
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>>713773312
As opposed to taking the opinions of your dad?
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>>713776976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY1iBuKmktM

Because they, like you know what is best for everyone else right?
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>what's the limit to social liberalism? just catering to the way everybody feels and adapting the laws so that they can fit in society, including rapists and murderers?
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lol you are so butthurt!! I never expected to cause anime spamming levels of butthurt. this is amazing. thank you so much. Your anime is a metaphor for your liberal crybaby tears. please let me have more lol hahahahahahahaha
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>>713777216
What is there to refute? It's an opinion based on personal morality. If he thinks it is moral to fuck over minority groups that is up to him and nothing I can say will change that. He is a fuckwit and I don't see the point in being politically correct about it.
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>>713773312
Amazing irony
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>>713777345
I think you'll find that a ton of conservatives were liberals until they got to the real world and had to support themselves and interact with shit people.
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>>713777225
The limit stops where other peoples rights begin. That is one slippery slope fallacy there boyo.
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>>713777474
You're confusing butthurt with pity, faggot.
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>>713773312
Official TRUMP SUPPORT server
https://discord.gg/ngj4x7R

WITH CALL
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>>713775148

>breitbart

lel
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You keep saying "SJW this" and "SJW that", and I'll agree there's a difference between sane liberals and the crazy ones, but when it comes down to it, I hate most conservative policies more than I hate SJWs. The latter just needs a smack in the head.
I listen to the right, I'm just agreeing with next to nothing that I'm listening to. Policies and opinions that in most cases I can't even compromise on. It would be easier to teach SJWs that there are only two gender then it would be to compromise with conservative opinions, for me.
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>>713777590
DAMN DANIL
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>>713777068
good idea
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>>713777169
Because fucking cunts like you that think because your of the privileged you have the right to dictate to other what they should want and do. It's fuckers like you that if we have a civil war, you will be hunted down and exterminated along with you tainted bloodline. You are nothing but a cancer on this country and have been destroying it like the cancer you are.
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>>713773312
O SNAP WADUP ZDDDD DANIEL
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>>713777225
That it's quite the stretch. Just because I believe two consenting same sex adults can get married doesn't mean I condone rape,murder or kid fucking. That's like me saying just because you're conservative, you want to marry your cousin and fuck your horse. I still don't get how conservatives equate gay sex with beastiality and pedophelia.
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>>713777311
Well of course that's why I was carefull to use regressive and not liberal. Also bad analogy since SJWs usually stem from the left where any race can be racist.
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>>713777455
great maymay friend and all, but that was an honest question though and that pic doesn't answer it. i'm guessing it's because there's no answer? or maybe you're just surprised that someone was daring enough to disagree with you online?
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>>713773312

"Red pill" is just the new "political correct".

All people have a hard time forming opinions on their own. Because people are stupid.
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The difference between conservatives and liberals is neurological: liberals have a weak, atrophied amygdala and conservatives don't. This is why conservatives can handle stress and competition and understand that resources are finite and equality is a myth.

Liberalism is literally brain damage from excess comfort and lack of hardship.
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>>713777911
I want to fuck the bunny
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>>713776976
>this ad hominem
Insults =/= argument
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>>713777094
But yet you supported someone that wants to import terrorists and people that don't give a fuck about our country while she lies and turns the US into the EU so she can profit and at the same time starting WW3 with Russia? A person that had classified material on a personal server that in fact would gotten anyone else put into prison for years. She is the modern day Al Capone. And you wanted her in office.
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>>713777981
Conservatives are stubborn, prone to violence and revenge. They more often support war and violent religious causes. How is it that they are not also brain damaged? They are a bunch of apes.
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>>713777758
If you were to take this post of a conservative talking to a liberal and switch it so it was a liberal talking to a conservative, you would lose nothing. This is exactly how both sides feel about each other.

We may be reaching a point where an olive branch will no longer work.
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>Because fucking cunts like you that think because your of the privileged you have the right to dictate to other

No, seriously. Why can't conservatives express a simple idea without fucking it up? You have yet to post a single sentence written in proper English. Are you a nigger? You sure can't put a simple sentence together any better than a nigger could.
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>>713778171
thanks for bumping my thread :^)
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classic example of liberal smugness and condescension. Like somehow Breitbart is invalid and all the other news outlets I listed are worthy. Just the complete arrogance displayed towards people with different viewpoints is really just disgusting. No wonder so many working class Americans decided to vote for Trump
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>>713777981
Then how do you explain the Trump children? I doubt they had much hardship.
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You're welcome.
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>>713778087

Yo retard. What can I say against someone whose moral opinions are just fucking retarded? There is nothing to refute. I can't prove that your view of the world is retarded.
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>>713778209
Hate to tell you bud, but I think we passed that point a few months ago. I'm an independent and I don't align with either side. As an impartial observer I have to tell you that neither side sees eye to eye and have completely rendered each other as outgroups, fundamentally opposed.

It's some scary shit to watch.
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>>713778208

Leftism dwarfs rightism in sheer body count. All the most violent people in America are democrats (blacks and non-Asian minorities). The vast majority of gun criminals are liberal.
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>>713773312
If you're like 99% of humanity, and don't tell me you aren't, you little shit, then you fall prey the exact same problem.
Remember just how frail the human mind is before you go bashing others.
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>>713776976
No chance. Studies show that, the younger the generation, the more likely they are to believe democracy is not important to society and we'd be better off under authoritarian rule. The study also concluded that the state of democracy and freedom in the us and other democracies is about where it was in Venezuela before it fell to an authoritarian dictatorship in the 90s.

There was also a book I was reading that interviewed various German citizens who were not Nazis but lived during it. The complacency and warning signs they talk of are perfectly mirrored with what's happening today. We are heading to a repeat of the 1930s and 40s. But this time there will be no good guy coalition to save the world.
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>>713777940
No, you're being asked to explain why your post isn't a straw man argument.

But you're probably too stupid to even understand what a straw man argument is.

/the sentence just above this one, for instance, is a straw man.
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>>713774188 Yarrr, I spotted a butthurt liberal in me sights.
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>>713777981
That's a bit rich from people who believe in god but not in taking care of his gift to them (the earth). Liberals know resources are finite, that's why they push to protect those resources. On the other hand, conservatives roll coal and deny climate change. They also refuse to change with the times and develop business around modern needs. Instead, they want government handouts to prop up the local wagon wheel factory.
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>>713778347

What about them?
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>>713773312
I'm a conservative, but someone of what John Oliver talks about is quite relevant and factual not to mention hilarious.
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>>713778469
FBI disagrees and actually lists more right-wing terrorist acts than even islamics ones
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>>713778469
What's left of the Murrow Federal Building is laughing at you.
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>>713778469
And yet religious fundamentalists are all conservative. Authoritarian right wing regimes have killed millions. Your full of shit dude.
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>>713778209
Agreed. I'm ready for a civil war personally. I've been to war before so it's nothing new to me. I'm willing to die to protect my country and way of life from corrupt politicians, Country destroying liberals and anyone else that thinks they are better and should tell the rest of us what to do. The real question is. Are they willing to die to to take away my rights and way of life?
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>>713777809
funny how it's always the conservatives who marry their cousins and fuck animals

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/incest-and-necrophilia-should-be-legal-youth-swedish-liberal-peoples-party-a6891476.html

>I still don't get how conservatives equate gay sex with beastiality and pedophelia.
back in the day, gay sex was immoral. anon was arguing how people dislike the moral values of the past society and wonder why they hadn't adapted today's values sooner. this implies there's some sort of steady paced elimination of moral values, values which include frowning upon bestiality and pedophilia. i was simply asking what's the limit in which values were thrown away and which were kept. i'm not personally a conservative myself, i've been kind of on the fence for a while now. but hey, i guess serves me right for asking a question on the internet. people don't know any better than to make assumptions
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>>713778731
I wish you guys could find some middle ground. Sad and scary to watch this go down.
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>>713774188
so nigger, where did OP ever imply that right-wingers don't just parrot fox news talking points?
I'm sensing a significant amount of projection. Is it possible that you're actually Carl the cuck?
I have reason to believe it may be the case and you can't prove me wrong.
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>>713778230
Your daddy is a nigger and your mother is a nigger fucker. Hows that?
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>>713778577
It'll get worse now that Trump has announced how easily manipulated he is with the carrier shit
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>>713778503
That isn't relevant to liberal ideas taking over as conservatives die. If you are arguing that liberals are more authoritarian then you are a moron. I have conservative friends that actively rag on democracy. They tell me "America isn't a democracy anyway" they tell me "the will of the people is dangerous" and that "democracy is no different than mob rule".
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>>713778577

It's not my opinion. It is the case. Liberals are k-selected from amygdala damage. They have low in-group loyalty, low trust, and a need for free resources. They're sheep/rabbits and totally helpless and they hatebaigna of success and resource allocation. These are the people who dig the mass graves. Conservatives are K-selected and understand finite resources, low time preference, loyalty and deterrence. They're wolves.

Most conservatives in america are actually liberals, by the way.
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>>713778731
They don't have to. They know how to use drones.
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>>713778711
Don't forget all of Anders Brevriks victims
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>>713774188
why do libs always assume people who shit all over them are conservative, and vice versa?
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>>713778577
Horse shit. With the policies liberals place on economies, we end up with more unstable economic bubbles. They don't know shit about "resources." Just because they are down with trying to force down our throats experimental sources of energy and resources that aren't tested and end up wasting money for everyone, doesn't mean that they know more about the economy. They're just fucking smug little faggots about it.
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>>713779026
How was he manipulated by carrier? The city offered them incentives as well before, it's not something new. My guess is he told them he'd cut big contracts with them when he gets in.
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>>713779078
Don't use K and r selection in your arguments. I'm not arguing against your idea necessarily, but anyone who knows the concept at a base level is going to write off your idea there as retarded. It's not a genetic thing and you don't know how r and K breeding works.
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>>713778702

Gee, that's persuasive.
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>>713779165
Because it's true more often than not.
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>>713778506
i don't actually see that as an argument. i wasn't trying to get my point across but was simply asking a question. maybe it seems aggressive and illogical to you because it's opposite to your ideology and people dislike disagreeing with things... i am aware of what a straw man is. it seems you are not, though

>But you're probably too stupid to even understand what a straw man argument is.
you said this was an example of a straw man argument. it isn't. this is called ad hominem. if this is an argument i guess you're wrong there at least
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>>713779173
...and the pendulum swings the other way, again.
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>>713778384
This was my only only in this thread so far >>713778087
I haven't expressed my views or ideas yet. To say my opinions are retarded is delusional. What happens if I had the same ideas as you? Would they be retarded?
>also again your "yo retard" there is an ad hominem.
Furthermore, you say you can't refute the other anons claim. Until you do so he has the higher ground. You can refute. You choose not to make yourself seem superior. Until you can refute him, you're wrong. Is your bark louder than your bite?
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>>713778719

Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Ceacescu, Pol Pot -- you can search the stats yourself. Leftism is the most murderous cultural pollution humans have ever produced. You just didn't realize it because you took what your teachers told you seriously.
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>>713779363

reporting you for spamming
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>>713778731
>Defend the country while going against every value it's held since it's founding
French and Germans have some excuse to tear up their rights and forego democracy. They did not found their nation on these ideals. To concede parts of the US and it's rights or Constitution is to do more damage than any liberal or Muslim could
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>>713778798
My morals hinge on consent of both parties. Fucking animals and kids cannot fall into that category but I suppose cousin fucking/marrying is entirely upon you. As for assumptions, you did it first, internet negro.
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>>713779557
It's not even spam shit cunt

I bet you wouldn't report him if it was a bunch of traps you flaming faggot
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>>713779173
Did you just claim liberal's policies to look for alternative energy sources proves they DON'T understand the concept of finite resources?

You're either baiting or retarded, and that's all there is to it.
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>>713779557
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>>713779474
He talks about fucking liberals caring more about "resources." I'm just saying liberals don't know what the fuck they're doing with their "green" policies and the fact that they end up accomplishing nothing but wasting our tax dollars, but you can keep calling "straw man" if it'll make you feel like your argument is stronger than it is.
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>>713778956
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.

That quote is true. Unfortunately when you have a population that becomes complacent in holding elected officials accountable. The officials will run wild with corruption and self interest.

The people should not fear the government, the government should free the people.

That is also a true quote. When the people fear the government, the government grows unchecked and begins a tyrannical transformation. That is where we are at at this point in time. It's sad but it is time to cycle back to the beginning quote.
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>>713779557
Some people deal with their problem, and some expect someone in authority to fix it for them. We know what kind you are.
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>>713779281
This is how

I am a company
I wish to move 1000 jobs, let's say

I announce that I am cutting 2000 and moving them
President gives me cushy cuts and favors
I still move my targeted 1000 to Mexico and get benefits for it
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>>713777613
not wholy, apparently. isn't abortion supported by most liberals? i consider killing a small human kind of infringing upon his rights
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>>713779130
So do I. Thing is, liberals like you actually believe that the military will go against the civilian population.
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>>713779026
Exactly, the wealthy will flourish while the middle class drowns in debt and inflation. I wonder if conservatives will ever cope to him being a fuck should he prove to be one.
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>>713779821
But they're not moving the 1000 jobs. The 'incentives' aren't a new thing either. Cities and states offer them up like crazy already.
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>>713779942
Studies indicate they would. Especially under Trump
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>>713780037
Theyre still moving half the jobs m8.
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>>713780168
I'll await the burden of proof then.
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>>713779790
>The officials will run wild with corruption and self interest

That's Donald Trump in one sentence.

It's going to make Teapot Dome look like a tea party.
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>>713779942
Psychopaths like you actually believe most of your fellow conservatives are willing to harm other human beings. This isn't even about the political spectrum at this point.
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>>713780106
Must be liberal studies. The ones I've seen show the exact opposite. I also and retired military and those that I know that are still on active duty, like me have asked many others that question. The response has always been the same. No they would not.
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>>713779942
...Liberals were not the ones stocking up on guns because the military exercise in the southwest was actually an invasion of Texas.
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>>713779611
>My morals hinge on consent of both parties.
see
>>713779839
i think you're gonna call this bait and straw man and shit but i don't think fetuses can consent to being killed. i guess not all liberals agree with abortion, so if you don't just ignore this post. i have nothing against moderate liberals. just seems to me like the whole elimination of moral values plays a big part in liberal policies
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>>713779942
>the military will go against the civilian population

You mean the country (military) will go against the city (civilian). It's not some airy all against self. As soon as you get down from abstract bullshit territory, what's possible become far clearer. In today's USA, that means reusing the existing political divisions.
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>>713779078
Wow, you totally fail to respond to my argument. What your said I'd that conservatives hear what they want cuz they are so alpha. Conservatives are actually pushing to repeal and weaken EPA laws. That means you believe in shitting all over our country and things will be fine. I like how you keep talking about how liberals are brain damaged while not citing anything to back it up. That being said, if you cite an alt right rag as a source... We will know you are retarded.
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>>713773312
Kinda like how conseratives parrot Fox?
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This liberal/conservative us-vs-them crap is just a way to keep the lesser classes busy while the bourgeois just do as they please.
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>>713779701
Yeah, we all do care about that, but unlike liberals, conservatives only care about what will work, and won't waste money. Instead of forcing shit that won't work, will waste our tax dollars, and further cripple our economy, we should just A. wait for said technology to develop, B. scrap the shit that won't work. and C. Here's the kicker, focus on the technology that DOES already work. Like Diesel, coal, and nuclear energy.

Modern technologies for said energy sources are far more efficient and make far less waste material than they used to when they first came out, and work far better than "alternative energy sources" that just don't produce enough for the cost to be worth it. With technology advances on said already established resources, we will only see them become more and more efficiently used, and with even less waste material. Should we look into other sources? definitely. Renewable sources that are efficient and practical are certainly worth looking into, but the technology is far from ready. Take your smug hippy ass somewhere else, faggot.
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>>713780593
Look I'm not that guy and I'm not a conservative, but do you not see how writing off a source because of its political affiliation makes just as sense as him doing the same thing? Tbh most liberal sites are obvious propaganda absolutely packed with half truths and manipulation.
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>>713780311
>Psychopaths like you actually believe most of your fellow conservatives are willing to harm other human beings.

Go read Dave Grossman's book On Killing. It's a detailed treatment by a Lt. Col. about how the military trains men to overcome their natural disinclination against killing other humans.
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>>713777347
I'm falling in love with you anon
thanks for boosting my animal ear folder
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>>713780829
No problem bud
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>>713780304
The US was running wide open toward a cliff that will destroy the country as it falls.

Hillary was a full speed ahead and lets go off the cliff. No turning no nothing straight on over.

Trump is a turn. Now here is the question. He will turn us either right or left. But a turn will not let us go off the cliff we are heading toward. Now the turn is unknown. It could be another cliff and we are just as fucked OR it would take us on another path that will begin to rebuild the country. Don't know which path we will take yet, it is all speculation and assumption. Personally I would rather take a turn and a chance than to straight for the cliff in front of me.
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>>713779839

I have a different stance on abortion: I'm against abortion, but for killing babies. That way everyone loses, and I win. I'm neither pro choice, nor pro life; I'm pro you-shutting-the-hell-up. The only way I'd be "pro choice" is if it meant I could choose which babies I could abort, and only then if I could lift the age restriction to 80. I was at this mall the other day watching some shitty documentary when I came out of the theater and saw old people dancing to country music in the courtyard. I couldn't remember the last time I saw a group of people begging this hard to be aborted.
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>>713779173
Fuck you, any nation on the bleeding edge of future tech always has the advantage. You want to burn coal and pretend alternative energy is the devil, go ahead. You should also stop going to a doctor and return to praying to the pain away. Fuck it, become Amish and push away all the advances the educated bring.
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>>713781094
Boy that's a lot of logical fallacies and avoiding the point. Good deflection I guess?
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>>713781038
I really think we weren't heading toward a cliff with Hillary, just stagnation. Everything would have been exactly the same, good and bad. Trump is a turn toward a cliff and we ARE going down now. Guaranteed.
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>>713778525
facerig?
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>>713781073
well that doesn't fucking make you a liberal that makes you an average 4chan user
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>>713781466
Excuse me?
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>>713780405
Assumptions run on both sides. Yes when people do not know for cretin and told lies continually. They will not believe everything the government says and will react to what they believe. Example was the purchasing the weapons. Just like liberals thinking that the military will go around and kill every one that the liberals don't like, so they don't own weapons.
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>>713781094
Nothing what you said refutes any of my points. Go riot on the streets and pointlessly hold up traffic for no reason or goal with the rest of your #NotMyPresident circle jerk buddies.
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>>713773312
They're easily lead, weak, cucks.
Only like 10% of human beings are weak enough to become a liberal,lefty,sjw, whatever you want to call it.
That's why.
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>>713781094
Actually, we don't yet know if alternative energy is better or not. That's for the invisible hand of the free market to decide, not some political operative.

And make no mistake, it's making it's judgement, even as we speak.
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>>713778272
There's a lot of morons in this country easily lead by the billionaire equivalent of a used car salesman.
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>>713781346
Nooo, with the "open borders" anti Islamophobia, the destabilization of the Middle East, the threatening and aggressive actions against Russia, just to name a few, I say we would have been fucked with Hillary.
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>>713781645
more in this position pls
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>>713780516
Raising a child requires so much more than just birthing it. Conservatives are such hypocrites, forcing someone to have a child they cannot afford only to turn on them as soon as they apply for help. If you won't contribute to their welfare then you cannot demand their birth. Besides, most teen pregnancies occur in red states.
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>>713781038

I'll agree with a lot of that. But you've got to be rational about probability. Clinton would have presided over a slow decline with certainty. I don't put much likelihood that her brinksmanship with Russia would have escalated to outright war.

Trump, however, can't hold a stable opinion for more than a few days. He's going to be completely prone to special treatment, because "deals", which in economic terms means market distortion. And he's going to be prone to manipulation by all those so-called "special interests", really corporate interests, that left unchecked previously gave us the housing bubble, the great Depression of the 1920's, and all the panics of the late 19th c. He'll improve the lives a few people and fuck over the lives of many more. Plus we're in another consumer debt bubble that's the best early warning sign of another crash; he'll be oblivious to all that (just like Greenspan was).

Plus the self-dealing. Oh fuck. Go read a little about Teapot Dome and you'll see that what Trump's setting himself up for is way worse.

We were going to have a shitty term once the primaries were decided, but Trump really is the greater evil.
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>>713781923
Bump limit reached.
Sorry, you're on your own from here on out.
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>>713776018
Samefagging;
Talking to ones' self, while trying to appear as if they are someone else as well.
Just because they are doing a picture dump, and linking each one to the previous one doesn't make this samefagging.
Lurk Moar.
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Because they're afraid of being cast out of the group. If they were real men, they could hold their own opinions AND command respect and acceptance. But they can't hold their own ground, so they shill
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>>713781893
Well, I can't argue with you. It would be like talking to a brick wall. Neither of us is gonna give, and I got more important things to do, like masturbate to anime. Just don't forget I told you so four years from now.
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>>713781977
Then BE SMART AND DON'T FUCK THE RANDOM GUY IN SOME BAR WITHOUT PROTECTION LIKE SOME FUCKING SLEAZY WHORE. There ya go, unwanted pregnancy problem solved.
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>>713780551
Read the whole thing you retard. No the military will not attack civilians. In self defense of course but not just because the people engaging in a civil war. The majority of generals have already stated that in that event they would not. Though a few other they couldn't speak for. Do some actual research and stop assuming shit. A civil war in this day and age wouldn't be a north and south thing. It would be a people against a tyrannical government and it's supporters. The military took the oath to support and defend the constitution of the united states. Not the federal government.
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