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Grizzly Bear: >twice the size of a gorilla >claws and

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Grizzly Bear:

>twice the size of a gorilla

>claws and teeth designed for killing

>predator

Silverback Gorilla:

>smarter

>pound for pound most likely stronger than a bear

>will attempt to pummel a bear

>nigger

It blows my mind that there are people out there that think a gorilla could beat a bear in a fight.
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>>713718098
Grizzly could beat a Silverback but that's the only bear species that could. Also only if in bear's habitat. Jungle fiolage would help the gorilla more than the bear.
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>>713718370
How would the environment change the outcome? The gorilla isn't going to use tactics. If the bear gets ahold of the gorilla it's over in my opinion.
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i think that it would be a close fight
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>>713718098
I think the gorillas agility over a bear would probably help it immensely.

you make a bear sound like it's going out and hunting deer and shit. That fucker is eating berries.
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>>713718696
They chase down moose on foot and climb trees. Bears are extremely agile
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>>713718098
I think a giant ass chimp would have a better chance than a gorilla. Gorillas aren't really fighters. Bears are predators, so are chimps.
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Watch the King Kong vs T. Rex scene. Similar fight. Gorilla is stronger and has more dexterity.
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>>713718098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVR55BYVbYs
3.5 million views. wtf
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>>713718498
Gorillas are native to thicker jungle environments in which they can move through dense foliage with speed and ease.
Bears are used to more spacious forests with easier to maneuver land. Bears are also only fast if they can break into a full run, while gorillas have agility due to their humanoid stature.

Also, I'm not 100% certain if a full grown grizzly is physically stronger than a full grown silverback. The only real advantage for the grizzly is claws.
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>>713718370
no a polar bear is biggest bear and most vicious
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>>713719142
Grizzly is the largest species of bear. Go find proof that polar bears are or gtfo
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>>713718370
It's not the only one. Even a small bear could be a trouble for a gorilla.
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>>713719216
lol just google average weight of both, i feel like ur trolling, polar bears are almost twice the size
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>>713718098
>>713719216
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>>713719313
>>713719486
Ok good job faggot you proved your point. This thread isn't about polar bears anyway so go back to suckin your mums tit
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>>713719537
still youre dumb and i know more than you lol im ok with dat
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>>713719537
maximum damage controle
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>>713719537
when u get rekt on 4chin by anonymus
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>>713718370
Polar bears could easily beat gorilla also
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>>713719486
>>713719537
Rekt.
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>>713719761
there also know to be more hostile, there much stronger, think about it, they kill 1 tonne walruses
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>gorilla charges grizzly
>grizzly charges gorilla
>both leap forward
>gorilla tries to punch
>grizzly tries to claw
>gorillas punch does nothing
>grizzlys weight holds gorilla down while claws tear flesh and teeth sink into neck
>gorilla continues punching
>gorilla dies
>next day riots in the streets
>gorilla dindu nothing
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>>713719537
>common knowledge
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>>713719828
PLus they can catch fish in their mouth so it could catch gorilla fist out of the air if you think about it
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>>713719486
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>>713719855
>>next day riots in the streets
>>gorilla dindu nothing
kek
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>>713719855
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>>713719894
i like where youre going with that but i think a salmon moves a bit slower than a gorilla punch lol, also gorillas dont punch, they hammer fist which isnt effective agaisnt a 10 ft bear cause hes taller, gorillas get killed by jaguars every day, cougars dont bother going near bears, lets do the math
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>>713719216
Fucking idiot
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>>713718498
They'd use gorilla warfare.
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Im gonna stick with Silverback on this one.

Grizzly's are naturally more aggressive are a few hundred lbs heavier and about 2 ft taller...

Silverback just has that speed and crazy retard strength.
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>>713719537
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>>713719537
lol mad
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>>713720134
Dammit anon
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>>713719537
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>>713720134
kek
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>>713720159
grizzlys run faster 35 mph vs 20mph
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>>713720059
> biology
> math
> together

Sounds fucked
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>>713719855
Implying gorillas practice boxing. Lmao.

Mr gorilla would be biting
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>>713720059

110% of gorilla deaths are caused by jaguars. Fact.
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>>713720134
lol, ya got me
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I'm going to have to agree with other anon
if you actually know a thing or two about nature
youd fucking know a polar bear is much fucking bigger than a grizzly
if you didnt
then youre a fucking idiot
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lol fuckin retards... a fuckin gorilla is not a predator its a fuckin leaf eater and you put that shit vs the biggest predator on land?! yeah
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>>713720260
I understand running, Im talking swinging, maneuvering and the ability and intelligence to use limbs as arms
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>>713720317
I'm sure the gorilla will be trying to bite but their main way of defending themselves is to pummel shit. In a biting match the bear is going to win. It's mouth is designed to go for the neck. A gorilla will have to make it bleed out.
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>>713720416
>the biggest predator on land?!

nice try
>>713719486
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>>713720483
well you were talking about charging,
so that being said, we all remember physics right??
what happens when one object runs into a bigger faster moving object??
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>>713718370
>Grizzly could beat a Silverback but that's the only bear species that could
the north european brown bear (ursus arctos) could too, its basically a grizzly bear but without the grizzly
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>>713720346

Where are you stats? Im reading number one cause of death is disease, second is trauma from fighting and snares and poaching
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>>713720604
> grizzly bear but without the grizzly
So, it's a bear...?
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>>713720658
> Where are you stats?

You want a citation? On a fact that says 110%? Really?
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>>713720593
You have a good argument Anon. Lets take charging out of the equation?
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>>713718098
Actually a gorrilla could easily romp a grizzly. I've seen it.

Big bastard just uses it's greater mobility to get on the bear's back and beat it's head and neck until sufficiently dead.
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>>713720134
Never change /b/
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>>713720722

Well, I like to understand why people come up with their info and a good chunk of time when I get conflicting info there is a good source. While the anon didnt use percentages correctly I wanted to give him a chance. Doesnt mean hes a fucking moron. Maybe a troll
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>>713720886
>Ive seen it
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>>713720904
I'll save u the trouble, he's a moron, even if trollingl
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>>713720722

Or on the fact that a South American cat would be killing 110% of an African animal.
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>>713720886
> I've seen it.
You haven't, though.
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>>713720134
kek
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>>713720904

You are 110% a moron.
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>>713719855
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>>713721148

But you used that math incorrectly.. Youre an idiot
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>>713718098
>smarter
>nigger
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think about it fegs, a bear CAN kill a moose, a fucking moose! have idgets ever seen a moose? they're fucking huge, bigger than horses.

can a gorilla kill a moose? propably not, it propably couldn't even kill a horse or even a pony
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>>713718968
This is what I was thinking. The gorilla just needs to get a lucky grapple, crippling the bear.
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>>713720593
He didn't even mention charging once.
Follow the chain and you'll see.
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>>713721400
Nice dubz

Gorillas are REALLY fucking strong for their size, incredibly fast when attacking and knows how to use its arms. Thats a big advantage Anon. Especially if its already on a testo boost from trying to protect its tribe or defend its territory.
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>>713720134
God damn it im loving this thread
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Isnt a Silverback significantly stronger than a grizzly. Like 1500kg stronger? I feel like one good tackle or a donkey punch to the head would do it
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>>713721270
> But you used that math incorrectly.. Youre an idiot

But you used that "youre" incorrectly.. You're an idiot

bad point
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>>713720134
Thank you for free kek's
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a better question is who would win

a dog and cat of the same size

small -> medium -> large
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What's stronger? Gorilla glue or real gorilla?
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>>713721826
Cat i'd imagine, I can't imagine a cat sized dog hurting anything lol, but this is purely thought experiment
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>>713721568
Yeah like what if it just snaps the bears paw. Leaving it unable to put weight on one while attacking with the other
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>>713721741
Youre = You are

What the fuck is the problem here?
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>>713721741
what?
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>>713718758
Citation needed
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>>713718370
Ever see a fucking Kodiak bear dumbshit?
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>>713719216
This fucking retard
Have you never seen a nature show?
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Gorilla is considered to be vegetarian and you will hardly find them on the animal matter. The bear for that matter is genuinely ferocious in nature with powerful canine teeth and they will bite down the prey and kill it. On the other hand, gorillas are herbivorous. So, if they ever come up against each other, then bear will have an upper hand.

Though both of them have very powerful and strong upper limbs, but if you want to pin point the strengths, then you will see that the bears have claws whereas, gorillas have nails. Gorillas are far more intelligent than the bear and they also use facial expressions far more than bears. In fact, you won’t be able to gauge what the bear is thinking from their facial expression mainly because they lack it hugely in that department.

Gorillas are quite fast and they have that in their stride. Even the weight of both of them is around 500 pounds, but one thing is for sure that Gorilla has the ability to lift a minimum of 4 tons. On the other hand, a grizzly bear has the potential to kill a moose weighing one ton with elan and that too because of the fact that it has claws to take down its prey.

The grizzly bear can be more than 8 ft. tall if they stand erect and have an impressive sprinting pace whereas the gorillas are around 6 ft. tall. The arm span of the gorillas is almost 8ft. The gorillas work equally actively on the ground as well as the trees and are a fair fighter too. The gorillas us their hands to break the bamboos and holds a strength which can be easily compared to that of steel and that is why you will see them breaking as much as 5 inch bamboo like a simple twig without putting in much effort.

If the two breaks into a fight, then the gorillas have the ability to pull apart the jaws of the bear.
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>>713722280
Like seen a bear through a camera?
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>>713722141
Here is your fucking citation. A video of a bear chasing a fucking moose.

https://youtu.be/j0Xc026zGqc
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>>713719537
What a dumbass
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would suggest that the gorilla does possess the potential to defeat the bear in combat,
but would have to be properly prepared & trained in specific skills – by human intervention – to do so..

There are historical accounts of human trained primates doing well in fights pitted against game dogs,
so that with careful combat training a gorilla could learn to master his positive natural attributes,
& negate both his disadvantages, & exploit the bears weaknesses.. by using all means, fair & foul..

This could make a great reality TV project for say, Mike Tyson – to develop, huh..
He’d train up a bad-as beasty gorilla to take out a dumpster-diving downtown brown bruin- in a mega MMA deal..
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>>713722539
> rip the jaws apart

this is the reverse bear trap from SAW. the reverse bear trap on a bear. nuts.
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>>713718098
The same fuck faces think the earth is flat.
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>>713720260
Good thing this isn't a 500m dash faggot
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>>713722665
You can't prove that its round.
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Everyone here is vastly underestimating the thickness/density of bear fur
The bear's fur alone would be able to absorb most of the force of the gorilla's punches, unless the gorilla aims the punches at the face, where fur is thinner.
Gorilla hair isn't designed for protection, and bears have sharp claws that they can kill with instead of relying on blunt trauma alone
It would be a close fight but the grizzly has it in my opinion
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>>713720593
Implying bears would charge before the gorilla
It's like you have never watched these animals behavior yet pretend that because you heard someone say something it's law
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>>713718370
you're a fucking idiot
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Guys, it's already been settled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVAP5qWnBek
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>>713718098
Leopards are trouble for a gorilla. Bear > Leopard. The Gorilla has no chance
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FINGER FAMILY THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3Fd7FXLoA
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>>713721826
Cat isn't as domesticated as the dog
>cat wins every time
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God tier thread
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>>713719486
>>713719216
Kodiac bears can get larger than polar bears, although kodiac have a much larger difference in their sizes. Both polar and kodiac share the mantle of largest bear species but the largest single bear I believe was a kodiac
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My money's on Harambe.
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>>713723574
> Harambe
> December

niceme.me
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>>713723196
There are cats the same size as large dogs in the wild and they are absolute killers. Sharper claws, sharper teeth and can climb trees. Dogs have no chance.
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Bobcats weigh about the same as my jack russell terrier. bobcat kill and eat fully grown whitetail deer. Dog will get fucked no question. Do you honestly think a single wolf could take a mountain lion? No
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>>713720059
Jaguars only attack baby gorilas never a silverback. Still bar would win
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>>713723676
for
>>713721826
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>>713723659
No shit but also add that cats are closer to tigers than dogs are to wolves
>muh domestication
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>>713723676
Pretty sure cougars are larger than wolves fam
Shit I'd out my money on a bobcat over a Coyote or wolf
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>>713723676
The origincreature for dogs is a pack hunter
The vast majority of non house cats are solo hunters
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>>713724293
They are in the same range. Male lions can get to be 40lbs heavier but females are the same weight as male wolves.
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Example of a female gorillas strength

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4amRA0jl0qI
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>>713723721
>Jaguars only attack baby gorillas, never a silverback
Uhh you know nothing anon, I suggest you watch this one documentary called "Tarzan".
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You guys have to weigh this factor. The strength and power of a gorilla biting with fangs.
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>>713724931
nice bait m8
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>>713718098

Niggerologist here it depends entirely on the environment they are fighting in. The gorilla would probably climb the nearest tree and throw its own shit at the bear like niggers do
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>>713718370
Really? Not the much larger polar bear?
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Try this on pro-gorilla retards. Ever had a big dog jump up on you or play wrestle with you and you are surprised at their strength and ability to use their weight to push forward? Imagine if it wasn't your buddy and was going full force attacking you with its face. Yet you're bigger and smarter (assuming) than the dog but you know it would fuck your shit up. Now imagine a dog waaaayyy bigger than you with razor sharp claws and a face made for tearing flesh from your fleshy body and fights so crazy that they void their bowels from the intense stress of the constant melee vs..... a gorilla though aggressive and strong as fuck...gets eats leaves and eats it's own green shit all day.
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>>713721741
Go home
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>>713725954
but i am home?!?
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>>713720134
10+ internets to you sir
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>>713725896

a gorilla doesn't have claws, a bear does

bear wins.
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>>713718098
just to make everything clear
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>>713718098
ITT - pussies that have never been in an actual fist fight projecting their own lack of masculinity onto something as arbitrary as a bear vs gorilla thread

holy shit you kids of america are fucking pathetic. hopefully your suicide rates keep climbing.
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>>713718098
Shardik Vs. Mighty Joe Young
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>>713726190
That's not a grizzly. They have straight claws not curved....

Probably a black bear, since it's curved.
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>>713719216
polar bears are stalkers and rely on sneak attacks to kill their prey. a grizzly would take a polar bear in a fight.
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>>713718098
The better question is could the Silverback gorilla beat a Siberian tiger ?
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>>713726190
Oh look! A pussy with a gun killed a bear! Such a man!
>Cucklord confirmed
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I have a legit question. So imagine you are hiking in the woods and you stumble upon a baby grizzly. Clearly at that point you know you're knocking on heaven's door. Would it not be wise to grab the baby and use it as a shield/insurance policy whatever direction Momma Bear is charging at you? Like holding it up towards her....would she give a shit and smack the kid outta your hand and hear the last girly scream you can muster before the first claw swipe takes your face?
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>>713726504
oh fuck i replied to the wrong person
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>>713725896
I would kill any dog thay tries to fight me. Mastiffs and rottweilers are dogs I would have trouble with but would still muder with my bare hands. I have literally picked up an attacking akita over my head and hulk smashed that fucker into the gound until it quit moving. Your analogy doesn't hold up.
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>>713726481
Fur LightBrown black bear?
>>713726582
stfu you vegie fag pic was to show the claw gtfo
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>>713726684
Said the lying fag on the internet..
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>>713726481
>Oh no, its retarded
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>>713726481
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>>713718098
Grizzly would definitely win.
Why?

Offensively they are somewhat close. Bite strength is similar, both are strong and quick.

Defensively the Grizzly wins hands down. Thick hide means the Gorilla's hammerfist is doing little to no damage, and the Gorilla's stronger bite can't penetrate the hide deep enough to do real damage.

However, the Grizzly's 4" claws and huge jaws will tear through the silverback's hide like it was nothing.

Silverback has no chance against a Grizzly.
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>>713722567
I feel like a full grown bull moose would destroy a bear if it charged full speed and head butted it.
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>>713726773
Black bears are not always black. They come in a rainbow of colors from black to reddish brown (cinnamon bears) to light brown to white.h
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>>713718098
>Will attempt to pummel bear
Correction - will use hands to grab hold of bear and try to sever arteries in neck with bite.

Grizzly has raw size advantage, but a weaker fighter overall - would have to be an exceptional specimen to out smart a silverback.

Gorilla on the other hand isn't too much of a fighter either - it has brains and raw strength though, with a stronger bite force and a decently mean set of teeth.
Intelligence also plays in this, sadly bears aren't too bright, and their vision isn't as keen as primates'.

Money would personally be on the Gorilla, but a wrong move and the bear could make quick work of it.
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>>713721741

But... he used it correctly, you just fucked up.
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>>713727412
actually bears eyesight is as good as humans (a primate) lol
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>>713718098
IT could happen but only if the bear isnt trying to kill the gorilla right away, and the gorrilla is trying to kill the bear, i mean animals are not boxers, they dont go right away for death blows unless they are hunting or trained to kill. But yeah, grizzly bear ez win, he one shots the gorilla
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>>713727167
some might be lighter but i dont think that much and you can see with the colors of the claws and shape of paws
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>>713727491
Youre is not a word
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My uncle killed a brown bear with a knife, and he's not even a nigger. Edge for the bear but harambe have a chance. 75//25 matchupp
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Can we get the Chinese Guy with the insects on this?
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man if i was rich i would buy a grizzly and a gorilla right away and stream the fight here
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>>713726587
give me a break...that baby grizzly would fuck up your nerd virgin ass never mind momma
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>>713727611
Honestly this.

A man in africa was attacked by a lion and the man shoved his hand down the lions through and suffocated him. Man lost his arm but killed the lion. Also 60 yo grandma in india killed a leopard with a pocket knife.
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>>713726587
>stumble upon a baby grizzly.
run as fast a u possibly can, if your smell not on baby you should be fine
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>>713726829
It's not a grizzly. Kodiak according the original story.
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>>713727595

So for the sake of an apostrophe you're still continuing the argument he was incorrect?

>realising he fucked up and is in full damage control
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>>713727167
>>713726481
didnt know black bears could grow that big
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Winston would just deploy his barrier projector and fire his tesla cannon from within the barrier before grizzly has a chance.

HARAMBE FTW!
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>>713728333
They don't
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>>713728193
lol actually some other guy responded. I was trying to show that it wasn't a good point to just say that and pretend it's a good point.
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>>713720239
"oh noes, i got schooled. i know! i'll save face by hurling insult."

whew lad. if anyone here has their mom's tits in their mouth, it's you.
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>>713720957
>>713721029
those chinese fuckers with the insect/arachnid/amphibian fights graduated to this. there's a torrent somewhere
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>>713719216
Tehe, you're uneducated
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>>713726587
theres very good chance she's gonna fuck you up befor you have the time to grab the baby, best thing to do would be to slowly walk backwards and if she charge you make yourself as big and loud as you can if she doesnt stop prepare youself to fight for your life theres low chance playing dead against a mother defending her cubs will work, bear spray even if it may affect you, poke eyes or punch nose
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>>713722567
>here's your citation
>posts a video that shows a grizzly trotting far behind some meese
nigga do you even academia
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>>713722621
>nuts
and berries
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>>713723021
>bear vs gorilla: the judo match
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>>713722621
Is he talking about a scene from king kong that would never happen irl?
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>>713723647
>thinking the harambe meme will die before Donald Trump is up for reelection
kek
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>>713724432
exactly, because doges are pussies that need other doges to get anything done while cats's superiority means they can hunt alone
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>>713720134
lel
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>>713718098
">nigger"
Kek
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>>713721831
Underrated post
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>>713726504
i dont think so polar bears rely on sneak attacks bc their prey are primary seals i.e crafty bastards but polar bears are far more aggressive than grizzles and on average bigger as well
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>>713729205
No one is on the other side of this argument. Yo cant even play devils advocate without sounding completely retarded.
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>>713720134
you are my hero
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>>713719537
you're a fucking idiot
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>>713718098
was king kong a silverback? if so.....
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>>713729484
yo yo yo g rizzly in da house
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>>713729110
> thinking Harambe hasn't been abused by normies so hard that he will ever be funny again
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>>713729699
My u doesn't work sometimes
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No one is mentioning grizzly bear jaws. Grizzlies can bite through a 4-6 inch thick pine tree. That's easily strong enough to go through a silverbacks arm/leg/neck
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>>713719855
top kek
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>>713719076
Watched this whole thing and still dont have the answer. Fml.
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>>713718098
It's been proven the bear would win. During the California gold rush they imported different types of animals and threw them in a pit. Bear always won. Lions, tigers, bulls etc No reference to a silverback tho (source: QI)
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>>713720904
you're the only fucking moron here. Nice job.
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>>713729441
They do sneak attacks as their primary source of food. they're built to grab seals out of their air holes. they lie in wait for them to pop up
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>>713718498
The gorilla is indeed going to use tactics. Not even out of any kind of intelligence most likely.
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>>713719216
>>713719486
>>713719537
I would like everyone in this thread to pay attention to what happened here.

An anon who was so sure that he was right that he was willing to be an asshole about it, and was proven wrong.

Keep this in mind whenever you're debating on /b/, especially in the political threads. No matter how right you think you are, there's always the possibility that the facts say otherwise.

tl;dr Don't be a pompous ass who can't even imagine a world where they can possibly be wrong
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>>713719855
Checked and keked.
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>>713729828
crocodile have strongest jaws of animals, if they can bite through wood then why dont they make dams like beavers?
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>>713723021
Hahahahahaha omg
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>>713729778
Just because you and your group of fedora-wearing militant atheist STEMfags don't laugh at it doesn't mean other fun loving sociable people aren't.
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>>713730011
They do
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>>713729581
Was king kong real? If so....
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>>713729828
Chimpanzees have been known to rip arms from humans with ease. A gorilla is several times stronger than that. If a gorilla gets a hold of a bear, it has the opportunity to rip its jaws/arms apart.
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>>713724931
Actually in the movie only the baby gorilla was killed by a jaguar, the gorilla was running to save the baby ://///
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>>713730078
I laughed at this, so where is your god now you
freebleeding-moral hippie christian LiberalArtsFag
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>>713722001
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>>713729975
amen

there was a thread earlier where a libtard made some claims about conservatives, and in typical fashion he replied "SOURCE? SOURCE?@!? RREEEEEEEEEEE"

the libtard posts 3-4 sources for all of his claims and the fucking thread lights up

of course the conservative was still trying to say "census.gov is not a reliable source" and shit.. but yeah
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Are you fucking serious gorillas are so strong they could literally rip the bears arms and legs off if it wanted to. Also they have teeth just like a bear and can maneuver just like a bear as well.. In retrospect the silver back is my cousin species as a human I would be rooting for him so this is an impartial comment.
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>>713730334
>>713730159
/thread
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>>713730334
>this is an impartial comment

really?
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>>713719105
Underrated post
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>>713718815
What about a chimp with a regular sized ass?
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>>713730508
So like not a baboon? also kek'd
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>>713730159
bear limbs are far stronger than humans not even a good comparison
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this fucking thread is great hahaha
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>>713728822
Checked/keked
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>>713718370

Polar?

Grizzly polar hybrid that have been happening in nature ?
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The gorilla would just do some King Kong shit to the grizzlie and fuck his life up
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>>713730605
the muscles sure. but the joints? i'm not so sure that they can stand up to a Gorilla's arm strength
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>>713722786
Protip: You can't prove ANYTHING outside of abstract thought. Trying to prove anything to 100% certainty in the real-world is a red herring, and only retards demand certainty on ANYTHING.
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>>713730605
Gorilla lambs are far stronger that chimpanzees even a good comparison
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>>713730680
>just fuck my life up harambe
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>>713730665
Grolar bear? I think that they've only found one, but expect to find more as the ice caps melt and the polar bears move down
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>>713730334
>biased argument
Fix brought to you by CommentSpackleTM
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>>713722567
The video shows jack shit, bitch
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>>713730716
What about math? Or is that abstract
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>>713730716
Oh, a fellow philosophyfag?
Welcome.

>what is deduction
>what is induction
>science only provides concrete truths
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>>713726481

you retarded? or have you never been outside in the wilderness.

any flat claws on a brown bear are from wear and tear. they are sickle shaped just like a black bears, just not as extreme.
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>>713730806
Math is abstract.

Deductively produced arguments are the only ones that are 100% true. For instance, "All unmarried men are bachelors. Tyler is an unmarried man. Therefore, Tyler is a bachelor." Similarly "two plus two is four".

Argument from definition and from mathematics will always end with a 100% true conclusion if the premises are correct.
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>>713719486
But what I got...
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>>713731014
Ah, I remember learning that stuff in my grade 12 philosophy class.

What about a statement like: "There is a bird in front of me." When there is no bird, assuming that the definition of "front" is a ten meter cube i the direction you are facing?
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>>713731150
One's kg and one is lbs. No problem here
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>>713731253
If the premise is untrue, then the conclusion very likely is as well.
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>>713730704
the joints of bears are different than humans and even if the gorilla got a good grip on its arm the bear is just going to tear it apart with teeth and claws it wouldnt be able to rip the arm straight off maybe dislocate but thats not a fatal wound and the gorillas gonna get shredded in the process
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Two Words: 'Opposable Thumbs'

Also

Silverback could pick up a log and fuck a Grizzly's shit up.

Also

What would you rather face: Grizzly or Silverback? I know I'd take my chances with a Grizzle
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>>713731371
Let's see you shred something with a dislocated arm.

Hell, let's see you do anything with it.
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>>713726949
This guy has a set
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>>713730718
bears and humans skeletal structure aint the same bears joints and muscles are immensly stronger
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>>713731382
>'Opposable Thumbs'
I fail to see how opening trash cans and doorknobs is gonna help
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ITT: People who think Grizzlies would win (read: trolls) fucking with people who think Silverbacks would win (read: seriousfags)
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>>713731462
2 arms bruh plus teeth and its not going to instantly dislocate the arm its gonna have to wrestle with the bear
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>>713731617
I think you seriously underestimate how strong gorillas arms/grip is
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>>713731587
this
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>>713731253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWToW9ZNOpo
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>>713722603
Mike Tyson training a gorilla how to box.

Million dollar idea.
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>>713718098
While the grizzly bear is bigger you have to remember that the gorilla is much more agile and while it would not use tactics during its chimpout it would still be moving around a lot and would be difficult for the grizzly to hit.

I'm not saying that would mean that the gorilla would win but it is fairly autistic to just say bigger equals better fighter.
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>>713731723
About 500 right? Grizzlies have about 1600 so they win.
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>>713726949
bet ya 10 bucks he's russian
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>>713731896
>being this obtuse.
Stop while you're ahead lad.
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>>713731478
Chimpanzees and gorillas skeletal structure aint the same gorilla joints and muscles are immensly stronger.
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>>713732086
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16n0hiZ7G5MkaeQg9GgfkkBbgsJvN7qIEGfNr1GmjjTc/edit?usp=sharing
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>>713731723
doesnt matter how strong they are they dont fight like that anyway if you watch gorillas fight they punch they dont try and dislocate arms the bears claws would shred them
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>>713729904

Then why bother saying anything if there's no silverback in what you're claiming cucklord. Ofc a bear would fuck up a lion/tiger/bul, lions have trouble with fucking giraffes, we're talking about a 6ft tall fuckin 4 ton crushing potential, semi-intelligent by animal standard mother of all niggermonkeys here.

A silverback would fuck a grizzly up so damn hard.
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To everyone mentioning
>Muh leopards kill gorillas every day

Leopards don't attack silverbacks, they kill the young and sick.
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>>713731515

Well I don't think that opening trash cans and doorknobs is really gonna help anybody in a fight...unless it's a really abstract one where the winner is the creature who collects the most doorknobs and plastic bags.

By 'Opposable Thumbs' I mean that a Silverback has the capability to crush a Grizzle's trachea, basically has more options of attack

http://animals.mom.me/functions-primates-thumb-7734.html

(Tools and object use, Grasping, Clubbing)
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>>713718098
This is why Silverbacks have such shitty attitudes.
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>>713732231
the entire fight is hypothetical, so your argument for "realism" is shit
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pft
lol
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>>713732425
Even if that's true, it doesn't make them better fighters
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>>713732566
Neither of them are "fighters".
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>>713732508
not really your pinning the gorilla winning on a behavior the gorilla doesn't exhibit so if they dont do this naturally and thats its only chance of winning why do you expect it to win
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>>713719216
>being this much of a fucking retard
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>>713732669
Yeah exactly. So the grizzly would win, because it is a fighter more often than the gorilla, which just live lazy carefree lives up in the trees.
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>>713729975
Isn't the refusal to admit being wrong a symptom of autism?
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>>713732804
No.
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>>713732715
Use punctuation. I don't feel like deciphering your bullshit.
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>>713732566
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>>713720346
In zoos? Or do they meet half way in Iceland?
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>>713732908
why should i when its easier to type with my hands never leaving the keys and i can just write and write and write so fast faster than ever before i can type so fast i will eclipse the sun and become the new god of earth
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>>713732908
reddit plz leave
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>>713732715
exactly. it's not grizzly behaviour to attack a gorilla
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>>713733016
nah gorrilla don't die in zoos often
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>>713732908
are you that retarted? i missed a comma and a question mark

not really your pinning the gorilla winning on a behavior the gorilla doesn't exhibit, so if they dont do this naturally and thats its only chance of winning why do you expect it to win?
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>>713723171
what the actual living fuck
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>>713732834
Actually, it can be. Especially Asperger's Syndrome.

>>713732804
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>>713733068
underage b&
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>>713733188
No it's not
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>>713733074
and its not gorilla behavior to attack a grizzly that goes both ways dingus
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>>713733243
but then wouldn't nobody win?
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>>713733243
jesus fucking christ that's my entire point
>>713732508
or did you already fucking forget in a 5 minute span?
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>>713719537
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>>713733326
why is pi an option here?
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>>713733149
Really? you missed three commas, a period, and a question mark. Your run on sentence gave me a headache.
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>>713733376
Because its unstoppable as a variable.
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>>713733376
yeah, it seems irrational to have a button like that.
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>>713718098
Why has nobody actually bought these animals and made them fight? There are saudi princes with billions.
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>>713733423
if he missed a period then isn't he pregnant?
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>>713733440
Its a never-ending argument.
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>>713733423
than you clearly shouldnt be on the internet you sensitive bitch
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>>713733376
because its delicious
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>>713718370
Kodiak bears are a thing. There are a lot of other bear species that would maul the shit out of a silverback.
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>>713733499
It's more of a circular arguement tbh
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after seeing all the people who think a grizzly would win, i've lost faith in /b/

it's like this community is nothing but /pol/ and trump voters
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>>713718098
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bear? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Gorrilas, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Junglea, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top gorrila in the entire GS armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another bear. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the GSA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, bear. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my gorrila hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Gorrila States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little bear. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>mfw
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A bear would though.
One slap and the gorrila's head is off.
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>>713733544
>i'm allowed to be a complete fucking moron on the internet, you're just sensitive
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>>713719105
>Also, I'm not 100% certain if a full grown grizzly is physically stronger than a full grown silverback. The only real advantage for the grizzly is claws.

Are you fucking retarded?
Adult Grizzley bear ~600lbs
Adult Gorilla ~300-350 lbs

The bear is literally twice the fucking size.
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>>713733729
topkek
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>>713726190
to all the niggers arguing over
>muh blackbear claw
and
>muh grizzly

http://s902.photobucket.com/user/alaskasue/media/KodiakBrownie.jpg.html

ITS A FUCKING KODIAK
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>>713733729
nice
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>>713733729
Kekekekek
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>>713726306
Why do you assume them american? 4chan is more diverse than you think. Or are you just a typical eurocuck who loves to call americans fat and lazy when in reality americans work harder with out state licenced 30 day paid vacation and paid sick days.
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>>713733759
Are YOU fucking retarded?

Have you ever heard of ants?

Size =/= strength
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>>713733777
checked
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>>713718098
The bear would kill him. I dont know why you faggots think the gorilla will fight like a human elite fighter and do some bjj-tricks. He'll just charge and get overpowered for the first and the last time.
Also a human-like body is not an advantage in a fight like this. Men get killed by single dogs all the time and dogs are not even half their weight. Just saying.
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>>713733729
> I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You missed a golden opportunity here

>I will throw shit all over you etc
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>>713733689
And you are a typical Hillary supporter. You are wrong, you refuse to see that you are wrong, and the people who you think are idiots are actually picking the real winner.
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>>713733905
Then edit it fukko
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>>713733930
>fell for "we're all going to be winning when i'm elected"

protip: i don't support hillary
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