>>699644845 It doesn't really matter to me, personally, since the society in my own country shunned me out as well. I never fit in there. The Syrians are a very tough-minded bunch, and I've had it with them. I'd rather debate with a Nazi than with a Muslim.
>>699643734 Why would you leave your family in a war ridden country? That's fucking cowardly, either fight for Assad if you support him or fight for the opposition. Now you're in Germany leeching off german people until the end of your life like a fucking begger, fucking shameful.
>>699645310 I don't have a family any more. All alone, anon.
>>699645314 I understand your concerns. I'm not here to defend any of the others. It's all plausible. I cannot bare to see the insolence of others doing such bullshit to the country that so generously hosted them in times of crisis. Unfortunately, there isn't much to be done.
>>699645278 Am i a nazi for loving my country, my fellow citizen and willing to fight for it and NOT run away with first sight of trouble?
Do you know in what shit situation germany ended up after WWII? Everything was ruined, bombed to the ground, burned and every woman raped either by russians or amercans .. what germans did? rebuild it in matter of couple of a decade and germany became even stronger than with hitler
>>699645935 >What do you want to do after you got the permission to stay? Either an Ausbildung or continue my studies in English Literature. I'm awaiting to receive my ID card and so on at the moment.
>How does your day look like? Paperwork. Sleep. Eat. Repeat.
>Are there fights between refugees from different countries and/or refugees with different believe? In initial reception camps where there was a larger mix of ethnicity and religions, yes. The police would be called 2-3 times a day.
>>699645974 No, that's not what I was implying. And yes, I agree. Because the Germans have the ability to do that, and they rallied behind their country after WWII, not behind leaders. We have a cult of personality in Syria, not a government. People owe loyalty to Assad and Assad alone - the country is irrelevant to the people.
>>699645984 I don't mind. People stared at me in Syria for having long hair and piercings, so I'm used to that.
>>699646045 Thanks! Outside of 4chan, people are relatively nice. I have a few German friends who have helped me set up and feel more or less at home, and have been teaching me German.
>>699647045 What's your opinion on Assad? He can't be as bad as western media make him out to be can he? Also, what do you think of western governments who initiated the war in Syria and fund terrorist groups because Assad didn't play by their rules?
>>699648518 Like I said, we have a cult of personality in Syria, not a government. Assad is a dictator, and the family itself has monopolized the government, very large patches of land, and a lot of trading outlets. You can not look at the situation as one-dimensionally as this. It's not just Assad that is the problem. There is a lot of factors as to why things have become the way they've become. As for western governments, well, isn't that what they always do? I mean.. everyone needs an excuse for war to boast about glory and shift people's gaze from internal failures, so I'm not very surprised.
>>699648540 No. We are a minority, unfortunately. Most people just huddle up in community-based gatherings and shut themselves from the host society, despite being assimilated. Think of Syrians like the Turks in Germany. They're assimilated, but they're still shut in in their small communities. I don't think many Syrians pose an actual threat to society, since, well, they just wanna work. Really.
>>699648864 >How do you see yourself? (as a person) I'm just a person that never fit anywhere who's trying to restart his life in a more tolerant society away from war.
>What are your thoughts about the world around you? (work/school, friends, family, society...) I have not seen that much of it, but I can tell you that I did fall in love with Berlin. I felt at home there. I haven't started actually living in Germany, since I'm still being processed. I'll get back to you on that.
>What are your plans for the future? Continue studies or do an Ausbildung. I want to be productive and do something with my life. It's about fucking time. I'm currently looking for apartments, and I will soon register with the Jobcenter. So, I'm off to a fairly good start.
>>699649701 Fuck off. Assad and the regime have been persecuting against civilians for as long as they have been in power. Arbitrary arrests against musicians, politicians, thinkers, writers, and practically anyone who isn't a worshiper to the system was done fucked up for. I know it first hand. Metal music and homosexuality are banned and punishable by torture and death, respectively. Rap was also outlawed out at one point. Civil liberty in Syria is like a legend or a myth. Get your head out your ass. We have terrorists, yes, and Assad kills them, yes, but he and his regime have been terrorizing society since 1970.
>>699650512 >Genefra Pamin im from cologne and there isnt anything showing up in facebook when i search her. even if i wasnt from cologne i should get some random people as results. doubt she exists under that name.
>>699650379 Well, the German government (having no longer cared to read the Anhörung) have granted me with not refugee status, but international protection which allows me only 1 year, as opposed to the usual 3 years all Syrians get. It was deliberately said that if I want to stay here for the 3 years, I have to pay a lawyer anywhere between 500-800 euros. So, thanks. I'll do my best to elongate that and assimilate myself as best as possible. Speaking of which; I'm craving Schweinsbraten.
>>699650512 I can't find a German girl for myself. Would be nice though. Also that account does not exist. Are you really on 4chan without the necessary tools to find someone? Do your own dirty work, anon.
>Would you go back to Syria if the civil war is over? No, because the war only made the reasons to flee worse.
>Is your family with you ? Are they alright ? I have no family, anon. My father's been dead for 6 years, my mother is in Syria but we don't really talk, and that's pretty much it.
>>699651932 عراسي حارتك. كمان أنا من الشام. يمكن، يمكن كون بعرفك. لا تسأل ليش.
>>699651975 Freedom. Definitely freedom. I have no family.
>>699652020 Automated bureaucracy. Had it been an actual fair standard, I would have been granted Asylverfahren (asylum status). Like I said, they don't read the interviews anymore. It's all automated now. They see Syrian, they sign one year and tell us to fuck off.
>>699652851 >Your types What type? Someone casually browsing 4chan and engaging in meaningful conversations in 3 languages while maintaining an identity and willingness to integrate completely into society due to despising most of the bullshit others are doing? No, I think that even if the far-right were to take over, I'd still have a chance. But that's not gonna happen any time soon, so dream on.
>>699653145 I won't. I'll just move in with a qt3.14 Deutscher.
>>699653394 It actually isn't if you have a good basis in linguistics and a very good command of English, both of which I studied in university, so.
>>699652266 I hope you know, like many people have already said you will never be welcome in Germany, or anywhere in Europe. Even if you learn the language and get a job and do your best to blend in, it will never change how people will look at you. Just a dirty sand nigger who fled his country and his family to live off in another country where he is absolutely not welcome. You are not welcome in western country you filthy arab
>>699653661 >I won't. I'll just move in with a qt3.14 Deutscher. Oh my god, one of "the others"? What a shame... What a shame..., It's good that you don't have a family to goes through this shame, what a loser....
>>699654602 Living in Germany you must have realised what a big deal the whole refugee crisis is politicly for germany. Stigmatas about having national feelings are being brought are and are broadcasted into the media, people are getting more and more angry at their goverment. What do you think about this current situation? Are you afraid the outcome will negavtively affect you, or do you think it will just lead nowhere again, like most political debates.
One of the hardest things about the german language is that everthing i labeled with a gender. This can be very confusing to non nativ speakers since the genders are not allways logical.
I'll just move in with a qt3.14 Deutscher. ein Deutscher = german male eine Deutsche = a german female so OP is a fag what a suprise...
instead of english the we have der/die/das for neutral/female/male. Der Mann = The man Die Frau = The woman Das Objekt = The Object shit gets confusing when we talk about stuff that doesnt really have a gender like Das Haus = The Haus Der baum = The Tree Die Milch = The Milk you´ll have fun with that shit.
Please elaborate on the tree of life on your shirt. Your relation to that and your believes in general
>>699654694 I know, right? I have brought disdain to my lineage. I must be stoned.
>>699654758 I'm still learning. I have basic command of it where I can go into a shop and not spaghetti all over the place. I can do small-talk and everyone understands me so far, but I'm still lacking in Hochdeutsch grammar.
>>699654775 Nope. I haven't. Brandenburgers have actually been quite chill with me. I have friends from Finsterwalde, Eisenhüttenstadt, and Göben. They're quite lovely people. I love Germany, but Brandenburg is empty as fuck. Thankfully, I'm not too far from Berlin, so I just hang there whenever I have a breather.
>>699654980 I think the people have a right to say what's on their mind, and I think Germany is handling the issue at hand very terribly. There has to be some form of active change rather than passively wasting time for both us and the people. The incompetence of the system is undeniable, and that's only leading to more frustration and aggression on both sides, but I don't think it will escalate to anything beyond small cases here and there.
>>699655263 man muss sich wirklich wundern was sich hier so rumtreibt. Das sind idioten mann - die haben überhaupt keine lösungsvorschläge. WAS zum teufel soll man tun wenn flüchtlinge kommen? Wenn sie Zäune sonst durchbrechen? etcpp... Du kannst nicht auf flüchtende Menschen schießen. Und das ist am Ende die einzige Lösung der AfD....
>>699655443 Top fucking kek. You got me there, anon. But doesn't one say "ein Deutscher Mädchen," or is that "ein Deutsches Mädchen"?
Like I said, I'm still lacking on grammar.
As for the tree of life, well, it's a band shirt. Secrets of the Moon's last tour. I do, however, have an affinity for the esoteric and hence why I sport the shirt proudly. I have a spiritual side to me and the keenness to wear the symbols stems from that, plus the music. Also thanks for the German lesson.
>>699656725 I'm trying, anon. I'm trying my best. It's not so easy, but I'm doing my best. If I find me a nice a nice apartment, a girl, and a stable job, it would be more than I have ever asked for. I just wanna live.
You know, guise, the ironic thing is that when I made "ask a Syrian newfag threads" when I was back in Syria, most anons told me to get the fuck out of there. Now that I'm out of there, anons are telling me to fuck right back.
>>699655976 im not in any way coming down on him but you go fuck yourself
>>699656019 ein Deutsches Mädchen is correct ein Deutscher = dual meaning: 1 A German male / 2 A german (something genderneutral like dog or citizen)
Mädchen = girl (definately female even if tumbler tells you otherwise)
since Mädchen is female ist ein DeutscheS Mädchen.
Im not the greatest in german grammar myself since it all happens automatically in my Head and i dont know the rules myself. Just trying to protect you from saying you want a german male qt3.14 if that not what you mean.
So your not a Cabbalist yourself that a good from my point of view. I read / listen to alot of fringe / occult / arcane / esoteric stuff myself. But in my Opinion there alot of retarded and or dangerous stuff in these teaching so you need to be carefull. Also germany was a very protestant country at one time. Martin Luther and all that. You know any about that?
>>699659751 Ich will auch besoffen sein. Ich denke auf deutsche Grammatik wenn ich betrunken.
>>699659898 ما بعرف مان.. إبقا خلّي عينك عال4شان بشكل عام، بسرد كل فترة هون بـ ثريد جديد.
>>699660050 They already did get involved and they made it worse. I don't see any solution to the war tbh, it should just burn out in a decade or so. Maybe more, considering that it's the middle east and those people love the fuck outta their long ass wars.
>>699659259 > I do love me some of left-hand path teachings. They're quite useful You´ll fit right in with our own politicians then. Those that thought bomb fucking the middle east would be oh such a great idea.
I dont want to burn / stone you but reading that makes me think your influence into our society will not be for the better of all. Sad thing i was happy reading what you said about learning the language wanting to work and built a home and maybe family for yourself and thought that dude a pretty cool guy. We´ll see what time brings.
In Syria did u live in a rural area or in some bigger city? Why dont you and your mom talk much? Just the piercings and the hair or something else?
>>699662253 Left-hand path as in spirituality, anon, not politics. While I do consider myself on the left, I have my doubts about the lefty politicians. I'm not largely oriented.
And I'm from Damascus, and I lived there all my life. I don't talk to my mother because she is simply a bad person. It's not a very popular thing to say when you're in Syria or from Syria, but my mother really is. She's also one of the reasons I escaped.
>>699662387 يلا سيدي منشوفك بأوقات أحسن و سردات أجمل .. انبسط انبسط.
>>699662867 Fight for what, exactly? There is no country left, anon. I stayed until very late 2015, until there was no more hope. I tried time and time again to build some sort of a life. It did not work. Should I die for a regime I did not choose, that actively suppressed and persecuted against me for the sake of people who would shun me out and probably even kill me for disagreeing with them? Fuck no.
>>699662789 >left path stuff Yeah i mean most of our politicians only care about their own career or some political bullshit that does not in anyways profit the land or the people. That to me is pretty left-hand like lie and steal all you can fuck the rest
Quote Jean-Claude Juncker "'Wenn es ernst wird, muss man lügen'' If things get seriious you have to lie
>Damascus thats why you like Berlin i guess, you´ve allways been a city person
>I don't talk to my mother ... Sad to hear that! In germany there is a saying "Blut ist dicker als Wasser" meaning Blood is thicker than Water. Which is about the value of the Family bond. I Hope someday you two will be able to be ok with each other again. But then again i dont know whats happened between you two so who am i to know about these things.
How do you fell about the german Winter?
And please tell about the way you travlled to get here. How long did it take you, which route? Any happenings worth telling while you travelled?
>>699665049 Bin ich auch und ich will mich echt nicht mit dir streiten, du kommst aus Holland? Ich mag euch übertrieben gerne aber warum stichst du uns in den Rücken und stellst dich auf die Seite des Arabers?
>>699665454 No, I'm not. I'm an apostate and non-religious. Why Germany? Well, when we got to Germany, they took our fingerprints and made us stay. If one were to go to another country, they would send them back to Germany.
Germany will just have a sporadic Syrian community. Syria will be in ruins. If the war ends within the next few years, a lot of Syrians will move back. If it endures for a decade or a generation, then no - probably not.
>>699665755 It just says Arab. I can't speak for Arabs. Nor for other Syrians for that matter, but I definitely consider this to be an atrocity. And I follow German rules. I have been following the system very thoroughly with a very clean record. When a lot of people have a Straffe or disobedience on their files, I do not.
>>699665788 Then you have a very vague understanding of the left-hand. It's merely a personal journey. Do as you will and harm no other, unless harmed in the first place. Endure as long as you can, until there is no more a solution but to fight back.
And yes, that's why I love Berlin. I'm a city boy through and through. Plus, it's all so very mixed, and everyone speaks English so it's easier to find and make friends there.
>Blood is thicker than water. That's actually a misquote from an old saying "blood of the coven is thicker than water of the womb," so.. We have a saying like that says "blood doesn't turn to water"
>How do you feel about the German winter I actually like it a lot. I was never a summer person.
>The way I traveled. From Damascus, to Lebanon, Turkey, took a dinghy to Greece, then the Balkans route. Nothing noteworthy except a few assaults from Balkan officers.
>>699666783 No, haven't had the chance to visit any yet.
>>699666331 Was?! Wie kommst du drauf das ich mich ans Seite des Arabers stelle? Ich hasse die Araber und von mir aus gehn sie morgen noch ins Vernichtungslager. Ich denke, es hat irgendwo ein Sprachverwirrung aufgetreten. Entschuldigung wanns meine Fehler war
>>699667102 You sound like a civilized guy, you're welcome to stay. I have ties to the refugee home of Flughafen Tempelhof, and god damn is that a shit show. The government's allocation of funds is terrible.
>>699667539 Thank you. The camps in Brandenburg are not much better, to be honest. They always put is in places far far away from everything. But then again, Brandenburg is empty as fuck, so.. Their fund allocation truly is terrible. They spend so much money on impractical things while overlooking the essentials. It's a shit show indeed.
Are you worried about the spread of Neo-Nazi, facist, and nationalist groups growing in popularity due to Syrian refugees? There are civilians patrolling the streets at night because there is such a rape problem. What is your opinion on the increase of rapes, and the extreme reactionaries coming out of the woodwork?
Also, I'm thinking that it might be a good idea for you to join a church or something even if you arent religious. If you can make friends in the community and become familiar with the local people and stuff, then you might have an easier time.
>>699668177 I don't know, to be honest. I just don't think spending more money is a good idea. Just ease up on the bureaucracy and give more chances to urban living and actual, proper integration. You cannot expect a person to be integrated into society when the closest bunch of people is 15 kilometers away with a serious lack of transportation. I speak from experience. Also, the overly tolerant agenda is getting to be a little cringe-worthy. Some people are criminals, let's treat them as such.
>>699668536 Ich kan nur ein bisschen, aber ich versuche immer lernen bis wann hab ich mein Integrationskurs. Ich kann "jedentag" deutsch sprechen, ja. Für einkaufen und so.
>>699668470 Yes, I do agree with that. A lot of people have no business being here. They have seriously damaged the system and lessened the opportunities that the rightful ones under international law could have in Germany or elsewhere. I have to deal with that everyday, still.
>>699668601 Not really worried, no. I haven't seen anything like that in neither Brandenburg nor Berlin. You have to take into consideration that it's not just Syrians that are here. There are so many nationalities and they are not all so very benevolent. The biggest problems in Erstaufnahmeeinrichtung for instance is the Chechnyans, alongside the Afghanis. Now, of course, some Syrians are also responsible, but you cannot put all the blame on them.
>>699669412 No i don't need to come with you since i am not a syrian and I am already where i belong with my race. Stop being a coward and leech on the other , go back to where u should be on the battlefield dying with all the other Hussein and shit Mohammad !
>>699667102 >blood of the coven is thicker than water of the womb interessting, i will check further into that. All i could find with a quick googling was this: htt ps://www .reddit. com/r/AskReddit/comments/1lkml1/what_is_your_favorite_misquoted_quote/ reddit best of all sources lol what a poor world which says this: The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Covenant, as in the soldiers you are oathbound to fight with. Not coven like witch circle. Maybe you got some better sources on that?
Does syria have snow i the winter? I must say i have no clue about the climate over there in the winter in my mind its all sand and Claybuildings. Wow now i feel so highly educated.
Winter guy and a night guy. that we have in common
>>699669412 The whole idea of being a Sozialstaat means that there cannot be cherrypicking of which people are worthy of support - and which aren't. Which just shows that it's an impractical idea at best. In theory, some kind of "quality control" feels necessary - so we don't have to deal with the scum we've had to deal with on New Years Eve (and similar events). It pains me to see humanitarian principle overruling the need of this country's people.
>>699669412 It is actually pretty interesting to read all of your replies. I grew up in the US but my parents were fresh off the boat from Germany. They did everything they could to instill me with German values like working hard and being pragmatic.
Do you see many of the other refugees striving for these values? Do you?
>>699669919 Either read thread or go fuck yourself, seriously. I'm tired of repeating myself.
>>699669976 A coven and/or covenant to me seem to have similar meanings in a broader insight. Witches stick together, soldiers stick together; either way, it's not about family. It's difficult to properly pinpoint where a saying comes from, originally, but this is one of the more interesting ones.
>does Syria have snow in the winter Yeah, we got snow probably 2 times a year, but it melts off pretty quickly. It's not as desert-like as one's lead to believe. While we have a problem with deforestation, Syria's climate is actually moderate Mediterranean. We have lush forests, valleys, rivers, and yes, deserts.
>>699670266 I don't see it that way. Everyone has a right to live better, but not everyone has a war in their country. It's about prioritization, and yes, quality control. That I agree with. However, it's poses a humanitarian morality issue. Segregation is not an easy matter.
>>699670501 Syrians are usually hardworking people. We're born peasants who must work in order to be something. Our parents always push us to either become doctors or engineers/architects, considering these to be the holiest of holies, so.. yeah, I do see it in them.
>>699670932 I don't think segregation is the right approach either, but since you agree with my request for quality control - and you agree that there are people here who don't belong (even from a humanitarian standpoint) - what do?
>>699671160 I think Germany's already doing this by utilizing their bureaucracy. They're giving everyone subsidiary protection status which allows a person only one year of residence, upon which a person's file is reopened and looked into to see how well they're integrating, how good their German is, and what they're doing to provide from themselves away from the Hartz IV. It's a good step, but it came in very late, so now people like myself have to go through the nightmare of bureaucracy and setting up all the paperwork of a lifetime in only a few months.
>>699671591 >Really easy Not exactly. I mean, I haven't had that many experiences with them.. I'm trying, but you can't really go that far with anyone when you still live in a camp and have no money for anything but transportation and shitty food. But they are open-minded, yes, very much so - and quite beautiful as well. I'd love to date a German girl.
>>699671594 I do still live in a camp. Not for too long I hope. I'm looking for apartments in my Landkreis right now, so that'll take a while. Camps usually have Internet; not all of them, but they do. The Internet is very shitty here, but it does the job for now. I was in one camp where we had extremely fast Internet.. it was glorious.
>>699671929 Oh, man, and deprive 4chan of the chance to ventilate their hate? Naah, I'm sticking around.
>>699671547 True, but the simple fact that criminals can't really be expelled if their country of origin is "unsafe" means they'll further drag people like you down - both by taking up ressources and by sheer association. And that is a damn pity.
I think it'd be a good idea to further involve the industry. Languages are best learned by love, and second best learned by trade.
The buraucracy also seems to be overstrained in certain geographical areas - Berlin for example.
>>699672216 Nö ich bin in Feierstimmung, hab gerad meinen Thesis fertig gemacht und jetzt sauf ich nen Bisschen solitär oder wie das heißt. Nen Bisschen Marschmusik hören und Bier trinken, ich bin noch lange ni müde
>>699672109 Ich glaube, dass ich diese Leute kennen. Fragst du sie über mich, vielleicht kennen sie mich.
>>699672121 That is true. But in cases of a Dildung, they put people in special camps until further notice or possibility of deportation. They can also not be so forgiving and actually bring the criminals before judges. The industry will get its fair share of new people, since most are headed towards the Ausbildung road, and a lot are working on it. So that is also a good idea. The bureaucracy is always strained, man. Always. It never gets easier, even after the dissipation of the congestion in 2016, everything still takes way too long.
>>699672359 Thanks for calling me an Assyrian and not an Arab. You get the idea, anon. Thank you.
>>699673989 Schade, ja. Du kannst auf Google mir suchen mit Syriche metal. Es ist nicht so schwer, wenn du intressiert bist. Gute Nacht!
>>699674160 Hahahahah. We actually have a lot of Syrian Nazis. Swastikas were not uncommon in schools. They like him 'cause he killed the Jews, and y'know what they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
>>699674174 I'd love to come to Britain. I've always wanted to visit Edinburgh, Scarborough, and even Birmingham. I have a friend in Birmingham with whom I'm supposed to spend the holidays this year, but I've no idea whether that'll come to fruition.
>>699675178 Thanks, anon. Definitely will! Keep up the intelligence. Would you happen to have been in any of my earlier threads (Ask a Syrian newfag anything)? Because we discussed this issue in those threads, from back when I was in Syria.
>>699673383 im the guy teaching a little german and talking leftpath and blood-water stuff
I´ll go back to lurking for a bit longer and then go to bed. i liked talking to you and in some aspects you have improved my picture of refugee´s even tho you literally sais you sold your soul. Also i learned about that blood water saying and assyrians.
Im not a Metalguy myself but ill leave you with a song that i would put into that category. its iranian so i hope there no national hate there. but u didnt seem like that kind of guy anyways. No lyrics in it so it doesnt really mater. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4YuV_YN8o
>>699676322 Hahahah. Lurk away, good anon. And the selling my soul part was just metaphorical, for the lulz. I will leave you with this song, from one of Syria's best metal bands.. which isn't metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD135pGYl9E
I'll check the one you sent as well. Thanks for the good posts! Gute Nacht!
Gotta say OP, i respect the way you seem to have embraced the country that took you in, if only more people could be like you and understand that they are guests to a country, and should therefor be respectful of local values. As an Australian living in Oman I know a lot about accepting culture even if I find it annoying. Good luck in Germany dude! Wait... this is 4chan? Shit... think of something autistic.... um... allahu akbar?
Eulen is the german word for owls you know the animals that "see in the dark"
and the lyrics are a quote from Jiddu Krishnamurti. "There's no leader, there is no guru, there's no master, no savior." Which i do not like since i believe in jesusas savior. But then again most organized religion / church is full of bullshit as far as i see. But on the other side it talks about using ones mind and not accept all things that are given which i totally agree upon.
the msuic itself was nice, but more of a sad mood.
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