Am i the only one who wants Sanders for president, but would

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>>696832402

>>696832490
not bait, i'm just trying to hear some different opinions than "trump is racist" and "Hillary is way better than trump"

>>696832402
way to skip over Jill

fuck off with this shit bait

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>>696832402
If you are now favoring trumpler, than you were never a true Bernie supporter.
Bernie is a Socialist.
Trump is a vile capitalist.

They couldn't be more different.

id rather have hillary than barney sandals.
But i hope trump wins and hillary gets prison

>>696832402
Same here.

>>696833179
i disagree with sanders on tons of shit. specifically the socialist slant that he has. i just think he's not going to fuck up the country too bad. he might even do us some good

I just looked up everyone who is running for president to come up with something clever...now I am just really fucking scared. Thx bro

How are people still even considering Hillary as a candidate? She's a criminal, she should be in prison right now.

>>696832402
Yes.

Because no one else on the planet is stupid enough to think that the lies the republicans spread, and the Bernie Bots jumped on and spread even further, are true. Because no one else on theplanet is stupid enough to think that a Republican President, even if he is only one in name, will further the goals of Progressives and Democrats. because no one else ont he planet is stupid enough not to look at Hillary's platform, and see that it is mostly what bernie stood for, and that if she gets a Democratic House and Senate, this will be the most progressive government since FDR.

yes. you are the only one. thank goodness.

>>696832581
There isn't an argument. Trump has NO political history; the only argument against him is what he's currently saying. But it's easy to rationalize the autistic shit he's saying by realizing that Republican voters generally want autistic shit so really he's just pandering to them.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's political history 180's her current platform. She fucked up, time and again, the most important political decisions of her career yet she pretends like her "experience" means something. She always chose the most violent courses of action in every scenario. Nobody has a single reason to believe any of her platform, if they've looked at where her money is coming from and what countries she brokered arms deals with as Secretary of State and which countries also happened to donate to her foundation (yeah, Saudia Arabia just loves donating to 1st world humanitarian efforts)

she's basically the devil, and there's technically no constructive argument you can make against a guy with no political history

>>696833375
no, she is not a criminal. no charges have ever been brought, or even close to it, because all the scandals about her are Republican muck throwing bullshit.

>>696833376
what if
now, this might sound crazy
but
what if
i'd rather vote on an individuals traits as a politician rather than the party that they're apart of. the 2 party system in America is trash anyways.

>>696833492
yeah man, and OJ Simpson is innocent too. I mean, they let him go and shit...

>>696833377
Dubs of truth.

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>>696833492

>>696833376
"it is mostly what bernie stood for"
any part of her current platform that mirrors Bernie's was put there for the purpose of mirroring Bernie's platform

the only thing "progressive" about hillary is her platform in 2016

>>696833504
then you are choosing short attention span narcissist with no regard to the truth, rule of law, constitution or human rights, with sharklike business behaviour, who sues for no reason as a nusance to silence opposition - what would he do if he the FBI and IRS as his toys? - who has never done anything for anyone other than himself, and who has no idea how to act in office, over a person with forty years of public service, who has been the most watched and investigated person on the planet, and who has made mistakes, in public, but has time and again also made good choices and tried to further the welfare of all Americans.

there is a Big Lie going, that Hillary is a liar and corrupt - but there is no evidence of this. meanwhile, trump, who spreads this lie, can barely say a word of truth, and the only reason we cannot say he is corrupt is that he has never had to take a bribe - he just steals, cheats and sues people, refuses to pay for work done, renages on deals and is now so mistrusted by every bank in America that he has to get all his money from overseas - much of it from friends of Putin, whose ass he keeps licking. you want to talk about traits? trump is not fit for office of any kind.

>>696833603
ok what is she guilty of, Your Honour?

>>696833678
oh, wow, I am overwhelmed by the force of your outstanding argument there. so many facts, so much reason, so huge rebuttals, such depth of wisdom.

>>696834051
how about the private emails that got leaked all over wikileaks?

>>696832402
no

>>696834011
either you're a very obvious shill or a troll. i don't know whether talking to you is worth my time

>>696832402
Electing Trump would certainly make a point. Problem is, we'd be stuck with him for four years minimum. Even more if he appoints SCJs. Not really worth it.

>>696833989
ah, duh, you do know how a platform is produced - you do know the purpose pf the primaries is to debate and refine poilicy - that every candidate will moderate their platform as the debate goes on and accept good points made by opponents - because that is what a party does - it debates and goes forward together. (except Trump, who had nothing to do with his party platform except to soften it on Ukraine to satisfy his Putin puppet master)

this is what bernie Bros fail to understand - jsut because their man did not get the majority of popular votes does not mean that the policies of their man, which were supported by a large numebr of people, are junked entirely - the platform is a consensus fo the party ideas. So hillary will be putting Bernies ideas forward. Just as he would have taken on some of her ideas, if he had got another couple of million votes and actually earned the nomination.

>>696834375
which is worse, 4 years with hillary or 4 years with trump?

>>696834260
ah, so she is guilty of something because someone illegally hacker her account? I think the leaker at wikileaks is the criminal here. Unless you have a specific email of hers that is criminal? please, since I am sure you have read them all (and if you have, you must have noticed what a hard working and caring person she is) can you tell us what criminal act she has done?

I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I'm not a fucking aspie.

>>696834011
Kek
Hillary will bring no change whatsoever. Her platform will always be to say what would most likely get her elected. She has not had stable views in forever. Her biggest benefactors are the mainstream media and giant corporations, and Shea had the DNC sabatoge beanies campaign. She's fucking bullshit as a candidate. I'd rather not have Hillary or Trump

>>696834051
Well if you listened to FBI before they said the whole "no reasonable attorney" bit, they literally said she broke the law; she did something that any other person on planet earth would've instantly lost their clearance and job over but because of her status she's homefree

ALSO, wikileaks dumbass, though it doesn't make her guilty of anything other than being a dirty fucking cunt; she was aware that the DNC was favoring her over Bernie when the DNC has to be objective for obvious reasons


now, because you're an autist, all you probably read here was "i support bernie sanders". i don't, and never have

>>696834628
my god, the very fact that she was discussing classified information on her own private email server is a crime. it violates federal law.

>>696834678
would you rather eat a plate of dog shit or a plate of cat shit?

>>696834011
shill level: over 9000

>>696834320
sorry, I am just someone who actually gives enogh of a fuck about politics to be well informed. I am not being paid, not a shill, and not trolling - I genuinely think that this whole Big Lie of Trump's is damaging our democracy - he is playing emotion not policy, and is a very dangerous person. Hillary on the other hand has been a hardworking progressive getting things done and helping people for forty years - from health care reform to more money for Veterans, to gun control to economic stimulus - she has actually worked hard for the American People. All Trump has done is steal, lie and go bankrupt, and now sell his country to the Russians.

>>696834597
Trump by a country mile. He has no policy, no skills, no attention span, he is a demagogue with no respect for the law, the judiciary, the constitution - and his vague ideas are all fantasy. America is great, and Trumps politics of doom and fear is sickening.

>>696834481
Yes but she never actually compromised; she just pretended like her platform was about what it was about all along. Please show me where she acknowledges that her platform is literally off the back of Bernie Sanders.

Not to mention, her current platform is in DIRECT contrast to her political history. When politicians make platform compromises, rationally a mistake would be admitted and a compromise would be made. However, when she pretends to be environmentally friendly yet she supports fracking and so on; being very good friends with notable fossil fuel lobbyists; helping along the Keystone Pipeline XL; getting money from fossil fuel lobbyists and a small bit directly from the fossil fuel industry etc etc

In order for her not to be a dirty lying cunt, a mistake has to be admit otherwise there's literally no reason to believe anything she's fucking saying

>>696834896
>I am just someone who actually gives enogh of a fuck about politics to be well informed
>well informed

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

There ya go. Start reading.

>>696834896
that's some nice fire and brimstone you've got there mr.preacher. tell me more about how holy our lady Hillary is.

>>696835032
"no policy, no skills"
then we literally have nothing to fear

nazi germany checks and balances; they didn't have a judicial system, that, regardless of party alignment, is going to shut down anything directly unconstitutional because they can't have their pay docked by the senate

>>696834777
I think you will find that it isn't. but make up your own laws if you like.

also fewer than a dozen out of thousands of emails sent to her contained classified information. some of them were not classified at the time they were sent. for it to be a crime they would have to be knowingly sent as classified - they were not.

>>696834375
>"I would much rather have someone above the law who literally part of the occult"

Out of interest have your wages gone up? After the leak I'm assuming your hours have been ramped to try and keep the negativity of Killary.

>>696834664
oh so you are wasting your vote then... good, the Trumpers will thank you

>>696835032
>>696835224
sorry my autistic mind got ahead of itself
i meant to say, "nazi germany didn't have checks and balances"

>>696834628
>Comey blatantly says if it was anyone else they would have been charged
>"Nothing to see here goys"

kys

To vote for Hillary, you must be:

a. dependent on state welfare
b. a cuck
c. an illegal immigrant who can't vote

Which one is it?

>>696835032
but like the dude earlier in the thread pointed out, hillary has shown herself to be untrustworthy as a politician. she's going to do whatever goldman-sachs wants her to do once she's in office, and she's not going to work for the people. Trump can at least run a business, and while he is a loudmouth with some shitty ideas, he'll be less harmful in the long run.

>>696832402
no a lot of people are like that.

I want to ask bernie fags about how they feel their messiah pretty much shit all over their little revolution and joined the bitch he worked so hard to overtake to save his career.

>>696834678
yeah, she never has had a law passed that helped anyone has she? (oh, we won't mention Obamacare helping millions. Or the Veterans thing. or the education stuff. or the housing thing, or the economic stimulus projects when she was a senator, or the campaigns for women's rights, environmental protections or...

you really have never looked at her record of achievement have you?

>>696833376
No, he's not. Only stupid people would vote for Hillary. She will not be good for anyone, but herself. I would vote for Bernie, but he backed out like a coward. I will never vote for a Clinton. Voting for Hillary is the equivalent of fucking a dead baby.

>>696835258
>ignorance of the law is an excuse for breaking the law
k.

>>696835224
>>696835315
what's your point here my dude?

>>696834687
actually, the DNC is a private organisation, and Bernie was never a member of the Democratic party. why they let him run is a mystery, but even though the did, the members of the DNC are individuals with private political opinions. I think you will find that the wikileaks emails (those ones that were not re-written by the Russian secret service) contained discussions between a few memebrs sho did not favour Bernie - which is their constiutional right to do. so fucking what. The fact is she got a few million more votes that bernie, so she got selected - too fucking bad, but thats democracy for you.

>>696835680
He just wanted to Correct the Record.

And ugh.. vote for Hillary. Please. Do it for the children.

>>696835761
>do it for the children
i don't think the children will be effected much.

>>696834886
shill level: Trump

another Big Lie, just like the guy you are working for. won't work, Lyin Donnie, just name calling wont work in the face of the the facts.

>>696835258
Uhm, that is exactly it you moron

>>696834597
Trump, by an order of magnitude. At the very least, I'd rather have Hillary fill the seat until someone better runs.

ME TOO

>>696832402
I think trump would be better than hillary because it'll be funny man.

>>696833179
>Trump is a vile capitalist.

So is Hillary. Yet, Bernie endorsed her.

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>>696834011
Just watch trump wing it. It'll be fun. You filthy jew.

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honestly, i can see what will happen with either of them being elected

>Hillary
she'll constantly pander to the public, assuring them that she'll make change, while secretly passing laws to benefit big businesses, you know, the ones that funded her whole campaign, behind the backs of the people.

>trump
he'll yell and shout, probably about immigration and liberals, and try to get a bunch of really stupid, unworkable laws passed, and just have them fail as soon as they get to the supreme court.

>>696835878
So now you're know my political affiliations because I called you a shill?

Shill and an idiot, that's fine too.

>>696835288
Nope. Although my business has always done significantly better under Democrats.

>>696833315
Thats not at all specific you moron

>>696835944
she's not going to be just filling the seat. she'll most likely give the approval for tpp and other shit like that.

trump can run a business? yeah, how many bankrupt? how many actually making money?

lets see his tax returns. Let us see if he really was entitled to the New York City payout for people earning less than $100,000 dollars for businesses after the twin towers - which he claimed.

menawhile, Clinton has run a business, and been a senator, and in cabinet level position, and never gone bankrupt. and runs a charity - and has served her country, while Donnie can't even get a cheque out for the Veterans unil Clinton challenged him.

yeah, great businessman - sues everyone, welshes on deals and no bank will lend to him now - except his pal Putin.

>>696836168
See I'd prefer Trump in that case. Always said he'd be a better option. That way he can get impeached for being a jackass and they can put someone else in

>>696836244
>excuse me while i bash on you for being vague on the quickest reply that you could think of.
i'm sorry i dont type it out beforehand senpai

>>696835494
oh so much hate and stupid in the same post...

>>696834260
Didn't you watch the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing with FBI Director James Comey??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ai1Z8OtEjU

From the video
>Clinton was told she had to submit her e-mails because of the law.
>She hired a company to recover her e-mails and told them that all government related e-mails had to be stored so they could be submitted to the government.
>After they recovered her e-mails they asked her about keeping her personal e-mails as well. She responded saying she had no use for them and the company deleted them. These are the e-mails everyone is freaking out about. There is no evidence that they were anything but private e-mails, no evidence that Clinton went out of her way to have them deleted, etc..
>Later the FBI was able to recover some of those personal e-mails as well. According to the FBI the e-mail server software had been uninstalled but a large number of e-mails remained as assorted files (they had never been deleted, but uninstalling the server software removed the meta-data on the files so they had to be manually sorted).
>As it turned out a small number of these recovered e-mails identified as personal apparently contained some confidential information (some of it having been made confidential after the fact).

The argument for her being in trouble is that she shouldn't have discarded her personal e-mails either and should have submitted them to the government, at the very least the claim is that it was her responsibility to know this.

As someone who is familiar with the technology involved it actually makes sense why she did what she did. I don't like Hillary for many other reasons but this one isn't actually very legit.

>>696834777
>being secretary of state
>having classified information
anon...

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>>696832402
I use to be a Bernie fag but I now cringe at the thought of him governing in this political climate we're in right now so I've become pro Trump because of it as for Hilary fuck her.

>Also religions an terror groups such as SJWism, BLM/Black-Panthers, an The Religion Of Peace have influenced my perspective a lot.

>>696833179
He's also an evil nationalist who wants people to immigrate legally.

>>696832402
you weren't a bernie supporter in the beginning
trump is literally ALMOST everything Bernie is against

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>>696836361
>mfw this niggas got this shit pre-written

fuckin copy paste political keyboard warrior over here lmfao

>>696835577
well it is you who seems ignorant of the law. No, to break the law you need mens rea - a guilty mind - an intention to break the law. if i send you something secret, but it is not marked as secret, and you have it on your computer, you are not breaking the law - you did not know it was secret. even if you send it to the russians.

however if you ask a foreign power to hack the emails of a former Secretary of State, you are breaking the law - which is what Trump has just done...

>>696835258
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

they were classified when sent and her security wasn't up to par and her server was infiltrated.

she broke the fucking law, but because shes a rich bitch with connections she got out of it.

How can you Bernie cucks vote for crooked Hillary after the DNC played you all like fools?

>>696836155
Actually, Methodist by family, atheist by rationality

>>696836473
so what's the deal then? she still sent confidential info via this method, that's in violation of the law.

>>696836185
still shilling, hey, with twenty of you i could make a pound.

>>696836929
>by rationality

Lol.

You mean 'by adolescent rebellion.'

>>696836300
shes going to fill the seat, call for massive shitty trade agreements to be passed and make a mint while we suffer.

hillery is the devil and anyone supporting her is either a welfare queen or a triggered retard.

>>696836671
>No, to break the law you need mens rea - a guilty mind

How about gross negligence?

>>696832402
Trump believes in torture and division in the races, sanders believes in peace and equality. They have entirely different character.

>>696837317
where has trump said that he believes in the division of races?

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>>696837157

>>696836609
sorry slow fag, but I can type this quickly... and think fast too. but I know you Trump and Bernie guys can't use big words so I'll try to go a bit slower for you in the future.

>>696836778
How can you Trump cucks vote for crooked lying fraudster Trumpie after he played you like fools?

>>696837157
I don't know who posted the idiot kid photo - not me. No I have been an atheist for many years, and I used to teach philosophy of religion, when I was a University lecturer (although my PhD was on medical ethics - the problem of organ donation and brain death). so I am pretty well settled on the irrationality of religion.

>>696837437
no one buys it, but it's cool. get dat money mayne

>>696836361
trump had 6 business reconstructed while hundreds more were successful, which is a extremely high success rate.
and clinton has taken loans from other families to meet ends meet at times

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/09/hillary-we-struggled-to-make-ends-meet-after-leaving-the-white-house/

and she hasn't done well in ANY political position she was given. not to mention her husband fucked the us with his shit trade agreement which led to job outsourcing and america losing a good majority of its manufacturing positions.

>>696837286
for a start it has to be gross - no proven, also it has to be so gross as to be criminal - definitely not proven. why assume it is?

>>696837431
don't post things pretending to be me.

>>696837820
which I was being paid - but tell me how much are you getting?

>>696838035
0

trolling liberals all morning and its been great

>>696837836
yeah, the golf club in Scotland which was going to provide 2000 jobs - you know the one that employs fifty people? yeah great success. and he destroyed a site of special scientific interest and a world heritage site to make it.

Trump University? Trump Mortgages? Chinese made ties? Steaks?

Here is man that no bank in America will lend money - you really think he is that successful? let's see the tax returns...

>>696838254
I am glad I have brought joy into your sad little life.

>>696838339
i'm not suprised that no american bank will lend him money when THEYRE ALL FUNDING FUCKING CLINTON

>>696838393
why do you assume its sad? drinking iced coffee, off work today itching my nuts. life is good

>>696832402
No OP, there are in fact other fucking retards who vote without using common sense or looking at policy. Kill yourself.

>>696833492
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>696834011
Nice copypasta fag. I've seen this posted the last few days here. How did you get hired to post this?

>>696832402
With him leaving the Democrat party, do you think he'll go for an independent run?

http://heatst.com/politics/bernie-sanders-leaves-the-democratic-party/

It certainly looks this way to me.

>>696832402
I want Sanders for president, but i'd rather have Clinton than Trump

>>696838447
you think that banks would not lend money to a good financial partner just because they have paid another candidate a few thousand to hear her speak? what kind of deluded are you? They won't lend Don the money because he loses it, or refuses to pay it back, or squanders it and asks for more and more to make up for his bad business decisions. You think that if they thought they could make money on this guy that they would say "oh no we won't make millions by doing business with you, because you are being mean to that girl we had to speak to us a few years ago."?

Trump is a bad bet, in business or politics.

No, you're probably not alone. And all that proves is that people don't really think about anything. You are dumb.

Yes we still can.

Only the democrats have your interests at heart. Republicans are either rich white guys, or uneducated racist rednecks. If you're neither of them, then you should always be voting democrat.

>>696838841
well that must be one of those infinite monkey cage things, because i wrote that on the fly and posted it today for the first time.

unless you have a screen cap - which you can't have because i just wrote it - stop lying. Another Big Lie from a Trump supporter.

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>>696838730
This.

>>696839125
Jokes on you faggot, I'm a rich uneducated racist redneck white guy. VOTE TRUMP.

>>696838935
i hate to be the one to defend trump. really, he isn't a good candidate. my only point is that he's not as bad as hillary

>>696839160
The only Bush i would vote for

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I've noticed the exact same talking points on 4chan the last while and copypastas shilling for Hillary.

>>696837006
She wasn't investigated for gross negligence she was investigated for mishandling classified information. Whenever such a case is investigated the main thing they focus on is whether or not the individual knowingly mishandled classified information.

In this case all evidence points to Clinton just making dumb but honest mistakes. Hence why the FBI aren't seeking charges.

>>696839272
how in any universe is Hillary worse? please, tell me, really.

>>696833147
>anti-vaxxer
sure

>>696834896
>I am just someone who actually gives enogh of a fuck about politics to be well informed.

Supports Hillary come hell or high water. Doesn't care she's a liar. Thinks Benghazi was a pillow fight. Hillary never helped a child rapist go free and laugh about it. She never tried to ruin the lives of the women Bill fucked and raped. Whitewater is bullshit. Haiti gold mines are bullshit. America to Russia uranium is bullshit.
And the Clinton Foundation is clean.

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>>696839352
She doesn't know how to make America great again. Duh.

>>696839291
kek her campaign is in full melt-down mode and its hilarious to watch

>>696839352
she's funded by the same banks and businesses that ruined the economy, and she has a history of screwing people over. politically, not just with money.

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>>696832402
Yes. Kill yourself.

>>696839476
wrong.

she got the nod of a sitting president who is also actively campaigning for her. this is a first, and just shows how much he believes in her, and why we should too.

>>696839348
Even though Comey said that if the case were to come up again with another individual, he would recommend charges.

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>>696839291
>'Correct' Commentators on Reddit an Facebook.
Fucking kek is this really real? I'm going to look it up.

>>696839659
>endorsment from obama is a good thing
nice bait i guess?

We have a Hillary Shillington in the thread. Hillary Shill. Trying to get people to the dark side. A member of the DNC. A HILLARY SHILL.

>>696839476
Ya. It seems like they are in full damage control now here and other social media sites. I've never seen anything but full blown Bernie supporters here and suddenly there tons of Hillary supporters who are extremely well informed trying to drum up support? At least when the Bernie socialists were here it was fun to argue with them. The hillshills are just weird and awkward and arguing all the accusations with the same copypastas

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>>696839659
funny, polls dont show that

>>696833179

I would rather have trump over Hillary because his presidency would be a change vs her status quo.

Would Trump's change be good? VERY DOUBTFUL. But the country is in such a sick state that I think the train wreck of a presidency that trump would bring would destroy enough shit to become a true catalyst for change. There would be a rebuilding of sorts after four years of that mania.

With Hillary, just expect another 8 years limping along with the same disease.

>>696839476
Nigger you're high.

>>696839899
checked and yea its definitely suspicious. oldfag here from like 07' - never seen anything like this

>>696839958
Haha, he's only 1.1 above her today. You do realize that he was 7.4 above her yesterday don't you?

Hillary is reclaiming the lead, and this is what you're seeing. By the end of the convention, she will likely have a comfortable double-digit lead which is what she's had all along until the past week when Trump got his convention bump.

Trump's bump is ending, so we'll see what you have to say this time next week dumb fuck.

>>696839958
>no sample size
>no sd
Nigger go back to poli sci 202.

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>>696839659
Found the faggot DNC Shill.

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>>696839765
>Bernie supporters voting for Shilary.
No I'd rather have Trump as appose to Shilary Cuntin.

>>696840091
Oldfag also and I fully agree. Lots of young and impressionable people on /b/.

>>696839409
>Supports Hillary come hell or high water.
no, but in contrast to Trump? hell yes.

Doesn't care she's a liar.
This is a lie. show one case of her lying. (I am sure she has said things that are not true - and even lied once in a while - so do i, so do you, but show me one case of a lie that is important.)


Thinks Benghazi was a pillow fight.
No, but the invesitgation was a Republican mud slinging tactic.

Hillary never helped a child rapist go free and laugh about it.
No she didn't - the video is of her laughing about the fact that the bastard passed a lie detector, adn she has never trusted lie detectors since. she was assigned the case, and did her legal duty, and the bastard go a plea bargain which he took - and she has said it was less than he deserved.

She never tried to ruin the lives of the women Bill fucked and raped.
Evidence?

Whitewater is bullshit.
Yep, agree - nothing in it, another republican lie

Haiti gold mines are bullshit. America to Russia uranium is bullshit.
yep - the sale required approval by CIFUS - see business insider "Even if Clinton had wanted to make sure the sale was approved, it wouldn't have been possible for her to do it on her own. CFIUS is made up of not only the Secretary of State, but also the secretaries of Treasury, Justice, Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, and Energy, as well as the heads of the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy.

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting members, and CFIUS's work is also observed by representatives of other agencies like the National Security Council and the Office of Management and Budget. The idea that Clinton could have convinced all those officials and all those departments to change their position on the sale, even if she had wanted to, borders on the absurd."

>And the Clinton Foundation is clean.

>>696840178
>above her
>during her stolen convention
>WITH a presidential endorsement
yeah, he is

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>>696840178

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>>696840333

Anyone else ever see a /b/ tard write so well? Use correct grammar? He's up Hillary snizz.

>>696832402
go to pol faggot

>>696832402
Literally every Sanders supporter with a brain. You guys got raped, there were felonies committed against you, you were conspired against by her. Just cuz she has the same letter next to her name....

>>696832402
You are a moron OP.

>hi I'm OP, I have a political view, but now that my guy is out of the race, I'm going to vote for someone with a complete opposite political view than my original candidate of choice.

>>696840581
Thank you, good sir.

>>696840091
oldfag - I am also oldfag, and I am the one they are accusing of being a shill.

the Bernies are history - what matters is nevertrump - and the lies being told by Donnie and the repblicans. and they are lies. lies on lies. I don't mind people criticising Hillary - do it on real issues. but these constant lies are getting on my goat. which on this board usually means something else...

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>>696840709
Not a problem

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>>696833179

it's not that i have any illusions about a trump presidency being better than a clinton one from a policy standpoint, i just can't stand hillary supporters ( or trump supporters for that matter ) and want to see them get their comeuppance. The only problem with this of course ( other than the terrible policy outcomes) will be that they'll find a way to blame bernie for clinton losing.

tl:dr i wanted bernie and now i hope that both clinton and trump lose

ps 3rd parties are for goofies dont even start that shit with me

>>696832402
this is also me

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>>696840830
>> really makes you think...

>>696832402
Hillary has more experience than Sanders. Trump literally has none at all.

Hillary believes in basically the same principles as Sanders, they're much more alike than you think.

Trump is nothing like Hillary or Sanders, and will spell the end to the USA as we know it.

>>696840347
would that be Donnie Putin?

>>696833492

i can understand wanting her to be president vs trump, but i find it impossible to rationalize why someone would want to defend her on a personal level

she has the ethics of a weasel on meth.

>>696840907
>implying ignoramuses don't need correcting.

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>>696832402
No OP, youre not the only one thankfully, there are other people with a functioning brain

>>696840616
if you are talking about me, thanks - I did get a PhD in philosophy a few decades ago, and I write for a living (mostly technical manuals)

>>696841001
Is the pay good? I've seen guys who get paid talking about it saying they get .25$ a post

>>696840919
>Hitlery believes in the same principles as Sanders
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAHAHAAAHAAHHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAAAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>696840830
Fuck off with this shit. Hillary doesn't lie. The Clinton Foundation is clean. The fact that the DNC had to fight for her against Sanders is enough to say "fuck her." Then Schultz leaves and is hired by Hillary. Nothing going on there. Nope. Nobody hear is buying your shit. Suck start a shotgun.

>>696840091
07 is still newfag territory faggot kill yourself

>>696840687
ah, sanders supporter with brain - well, now you have a small number to deal with... but I think you will find those that are rational will support a Democrat, not a guy so nutty that even the repubs find him repellant

>>696841127
Now don't make him >>696841001

'correct' you.....

kek

>>696840834
A clear case of what's going on here.

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>>696840830
>>696841001
>getting on my goat
>ignoramuses

>>696840581
on 19 you can go fuck yourself because who are you to say when something has life.
the rest sounds legit though

>>696840907
I wish I was being paid for this - anyone know how I can get some of that superpac money?

>>696841001
>i disagree with you
>you need to be corrected
>delet dis
>not a censorship, just correcting the world

>>696841337
Email the DNC and ask

>>696835032
>america is great

except for the crippling income inequality, systemic racism, endless wars, chronic underemployment, the totally fucked housing market, unfettered crony capitalism, arbitrary deportation of illegal aliens, ineffective police oversight, regulatory capture, the military industrial complex, for-profit prisons, oligarchic control of the government, the militarisation of police forces, extra-judicial drone murder, an illegal gulag in cuba, cia torture black sites, broad based NSA spying with zero judicial oversight, crippling levels of obesity, veterans being left to fend for themselves upon return to the US,

et cetera, et cetera, et cetera

Bernie Delegate: "DNC is Replacing Sanders Supporters With Paid Seat Fillers to Create Fake Unity"

>>696841437
Sounds like a liberal to me.

>>696841595
Yup

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Only retarded bernouts went to Hillary after he lost.

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>>696841595
>to Create Fake Unity

In November they will cast fake votes. Hillary will win.

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>democrats
>the progressive ones
More like the regressive ones

>>696840919
Right... As you know it...
Broken... Poor.... Hated .... Perpetual debt ... Perpetual war.... Mass unemployment.... BLM.... LGBYT or what the fuck... Who would want the end of that?

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Just a reminder.

>>696841206
only newfags call people newfags

>>696841595
You mean like the RNC did for almost 60% of their attendees?

>>696835447
it was never about bernie, it was about the movement.

i dont see how he did it to "save his career" he's pretty secure in terms of how popular he is in vermont, I dont see him accepting some job in the administration.

Bernie has been to the left of American mainstream politics for decades, he understands better than anyone that you can't always get what you want. So he understands that while lesser-evil voting is a bitter pill to swallow, if you believe that the role of the government is to improve the material conditions of it's citizens, then "oatmeal beat no-meal"

>>696840972
how do you know that?

apart from republican Big Lie talking points and repeated failed \|Republican smear campaigns? you really have no idea what she is like at all. the fact she has lived her life in public under intense scrutiny for decades and no one can find any real evidence against her says a lot.

>>696833296
Die bitch.

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>>696841488
>systemic racism
Everything else here is correct but that those two words are some reddit an Tumblr tier bullshit.

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Wouldn't it be nice if someone were to dox this Shill so we can expose THE DNC even further? Get headlines like "Hillary so desperate sends faggot in the Internet's asshole."

>>696832402
No, but only because she's a woman and I aint got a snowball's chance in hell of having child support ease up on how much they expect from me if she's sitting in the oval office. Not that I'd expect anything on that level to directly affect me anyways, I just wanna see that psycho win out of spite that way all of us spics are fucked all together as opposed to just me and a few others.

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>>696840954
Hmmm, I guess so.

>>696841180
Not saying she has never lied - just looking for you to tell me one case where she has lied - not some bullshit she didn't get the facts right when asked about something someone else did five years ago so she is a liar - a real lie. a great big whopping lie. one that matters.

>>696840830
shut up idiot

>>696841488
all of which Clinton is far more likely to tackle than Trump

>>696834896
This is a defector paid poster...
100% ... Nothing they say isn't scripted ... Hillary is a hard worker ... Indeed

>>696841127

testify brother

>>696832402
as a fellow secular Jew I love Bernie. Never really thought he had a shot, and in truth, the primary was never really close. He did worse than Hillary did against Obama in 08.

I'd rather have Trump but for different reasons than most. I'm generally liberal but despise the Clintons as money grubbing thieves, especially Bill.

>>696842125
I guess telling the country that Benghazi was done over a video was all truth.

>>696835032
America is great at being unemployed... Great at losing every conflict in the past 40 years... Great at what?

America used to be great... Now it's paid poster time to tell us how great it is to not have jobs ... Watch Hillary lie ... Cackle like the witch she is ...

>>696842125

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

Her own words..... not confusion..... flat out lies.

>>696842585
flat out edited

kys

>>696834153
Lurk moar, shill. Youvare not blending in at all.

>>696835472
Libya .... Benghazi ... The 150 or so corpses she's left behind.. The actual testimony of the secret service ...

Paid to post does NOT make what you say true

>>696842452
going only on the information that you have available at the time, doesn't mean you lied. it simply means that you believed bad information.

>>696832402
No, you're not the only one. There are a lot of retarded Marxists roaming around.

>>696832402
They're both horrible, to be honest, all the choices this election were horrid, though it's like this every 4 years. Rubio, Bush,Clinton, Sanders and Trump just all of them, fuckin horrible

>>696840907
I guess we're just being 'corrected' instead of baited....

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>>696841913

i know her by her actions

1) she fucking loves war
2) she subscribes to a bullshit bourgeois brand of feminism
3) she ran to the right of obama who she derided as dangerously unqualified
4) she would have absolutely ran to the right of where she she is now in 2016 were it not for sanders, this has been confirmed many times by sources within the clinton camp
5) she talks about how "america is already great" which is the sort of nonsense you could only belive if you're a rich idiot whose money insulates them from the actual problems in society.
6) she promotes herself as an ally of women, gays, liberty etc. while her personal foundation accepts millions of dollars from some of the most repressive governments in the world. Governments to whom, i might add, the us sold all sorts of arms to while she was SoS.
7) She was until very recently opposed to gay marriage, but now pretends as if she was "woke all along. Ditto illegal immigration, "scheduling of marijuana
8) She accepts millions of dollars in "speaking fees" aka Bribes from some of the worst actors in the 2008 financial crisis and then tries to tell people she will be "tought" on the big banks

Anyone who's not a total hillary shill with an iq above room temperature sees her for what she is.

A classic example of a corrupt politician.

>>696835061

so, are you saying that you would rather vote for Trump because there is a 100% chance he will do the horrible shit that you are worried Hillary has a 50% chance of doing?

I firmly believe that this "Bernie voters for Trump" nonsense is a false flag. In fact, if there is a true Sanders supporter who is actually going to vote for Trump then I believe that they were probably going to vote for Trump anyways. The thing is, sure Hillary has a history of doing shady political things but literally no politician has ever been squeaky clean. If anything, Hillary only looks so bad because she has been subjected to a level of scrutiny that rarely gets seen in other races. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a good thing. We need more transparency. But what I don't understand is why you think Trump, who doesn't plan on supporting any progressive legislation, is a better alternative to Hillary (assuming you were a Bernie supporter.) I mean, even if Hillary ends up being a Dem Nixon, do you really think she wont advance any Democratic agendas in 4 years? Do you really think she will do shit like repeal Obama Care? Do you really think that when she gets in office, she wont cooperate with her party on any platform that she ran on?

When a president takes office, they only ever deliever on SOME of the things they promise. If Hillary only comes through with one or two things, it will be a lot better for this nation than if Trump goes through with everything he promises.

>>696842770
She knew it was terrorist when the attack was happening.

You should listen to Kris Pronto. A Benghazi survivor. He had all the Intel that she had.

>>696841998

i get that you hate black people, but that doesn't erase the fact that they face problems that white people do not,

>>696842746
Benghazi was already debunked by Republicans last month, try harder trump-et

>>696842962
>survivor

yeah, and what he saw and what people in the pentagon 'heard was happening' couldn't have possibly been mixed up for awhile.

>>696842973
>believes holllywood movies are actually real

>>696842247

if you believe that, then i dont think i can help you

trump's an idiot and a fool and will probably make these problems worse, but hillary clinton is too rich to have anything more than a token level of "give a shit" vis a vis these problems

by all means vote for clinton, but dont try and paint her as some sort of left-wing savior

>>696838339
How the duck does a golf club employ 2000 people? Now you're just making shut up ... Ever been to a golf club?

More shot from the guy paid to post pro Hillary shit... Hillary is a ghoul.. The stench of death surrounds her

>>696843095
>awhile

Enough to to give plenty of false stories about muzzies being pissed about a shit movie.

>>696833377
There's one argument; the lack of political history.

Not saying I'd agree, or that it's good. But it's valid.

>>696842204
why don't you go read your constitution? try the ammendments. not jus tthe second one (although you might like to read that - especially the bit about the well regulated militia part, adn think on why that gives you a right to own a machine gun without doing any real service to your country while you are at it)

>>696838339
Confirmed shill.

this: >>696840032

Bonus is the possibility that someone will start lobbing nukes back and forth and thin the herd

>>696842255
does the republican party really pay you much to sling this mud? how about you actually argue some points instead of just name calling and lying?

>>696842296
how can you be liberal, and have any moral compass, and still say you would prefer Trump for any office in the land?

>>696843095
She emailed Chelsea while it was happening (proven while she was under oath) and told her that we're 'under terrorist attack in Benghazi'.

Then she proceeded to tell the public that it was a spontaneous protest due to a youtube video. All of this to protect Obama's election because he was out rallying, and saying that ISIS was the JV team, and that they were 'on the run'.

These are facts, all stated while people were under oath at the congressional hearings.

There were clear contradictions.... er LIES told.

>>696843420
Don't cry about 4th violations of your car, computer, phone. They weren't around in the 1700s. Founders didn't account for them.

>>696843420

i can't wait until thousand year old, broke-dick, Clinton shills like you are in your grave, and we can get some real left-wing agitation in this country.

scratch that, i hope you live long enough to see us trample your bourgeois idea of "liberalism"

>>696843324
We'll both Trump and Bernie were/are anti-establishment vs Hillary who will be Obama 2.0. Bernie sold out on his movement and Trump not having political experience could be seen as a
good thing. He also beat all of his opponents so far, whom were all experienced politicians. He seems to be picking it up pretty fast

>>696842913

>she loves war

Trump and the RNC don't? Funny how you can still find a way to blame the Dems for a war that the Republicans started. I'm a registered Democrat, and even I thought the wars in Afghanistan were a good idea.

>she subcribes to a bullshit bourgeois brand of feminism

Trump and the RNC subscribe to bullshit bourgeois brand of misogyny and racism. So I guess you just get to pick which flavor of bourgeois ideology you like more.

>she ran to the right of Obama and she derided as dangerously unqualified

Like it or not, she did serve as Secretary of State. Trump is a private business man with a history of fraud, debt, and bankruptcy. Even if you don't think Hillary did a good job, she still is more qualified than Trump because she has a history working for the government she is trying to lead.

>) she would have absolutely ran to the right of where she she is now in 2016 were it not for sanders, this has been confirmed many times by sources within the clinton camp

So? If you are a conservative what's the problem? Don't you want a right winger in office? Make up your mind.

>she talks about how "america is already great" which is the sort of nonsense you could only belive if you're a rich idiot whose money insulates them from the actual problems in society.

So, unless we have 0% unemployment, you think the country is totally shit? I'm sorry you got laid off from your Mc'job, but deporting the Mexicans wont magically give you an education and skill.

>>696841320
When, in an external environment, a fetus can stand alone upon receiving sustenance. Before that, nature will kill it without interference.
Then it's Human.

>>696843699
All bullshit republican talking points which have all since been debunked.

1/10

>>696832402
No. I'd actually vote for trump if he didn't pick such a fucktarded running mate. At the same time I don't want to vote for hillary either. It's a quandary.
>>696833179
It's really more about damage control, given a short list of options you pick the one that does the least harm. Trump is surely a buffoon but I worry about Hillary and corruption in high office. Trump might have a lewinsky 2.0, if anything.

>>696842460
America used to be great - when? when was the aaverage standard of living better? when was the average level of education, health care or violent crime (outside the big cities -and in most cases within them) better? now tell me why. Do you think that Trump has helped. or will help, or has any fucking clue how to help?

>>696841800

the rnc wasn't nearly as exciting as i was hoping it would be.

>>696843909
It was lacking a few good riots outside of the place.

>>696843324
Worked out for obummer. As if some senate 'experience' in a failing state counts for anything.

Bernie delegate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06R-6s3NSRc

>>696843785
Everything you say is true. It just doesn't render the argument invalid.

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>>696842972
I don't hate black people, one of my best friends is black. I hate dindus, Niggers, an SJW white guilt cultist. They are the ones creating a dangerous political climate based on a false narrative.

>>696843814
>Trump/GOP misogynist and racists.

Typical leftist name calling when in a corner. We all know you're getting paid to do this. Just admit it and we can go on with our lives.

>>696842910
>baited....
if you mean by the best and most well informed trolls ive ever seen on 4chan, talking point after talking point. so good they practically put /pol/ to shame in their relentless bullshit then yeah, I agree

>>696842746
paid to post the Big Lie does not make you a source of truth, Trumper

>>696844112
There's an obvious difference between no political history, and political history. Even if it wasn't up to your proposed standards, Anon. Argument still stands.

>>696836168
Waited those 99 seconds.
Wasnt disappointed

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>>696844210
This is why the left throws around the racist meme

>>696832402
It doesn't matter. Trump and Clinton are both funded by Russia and the Banks (jews and billionaires). Congrats we all get to live to see Democracy die.

>>696844121
>inb4 he suddenly commits suicide by stabbing himself 19 times.

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>>696844210
If they admitted they were paid to promote Hilary they wouldn't get paid, 4chan does have many archives you know.

>>696844503
Interesting. Thanks.

>>696843785
Shillary won't be Obama 2.0. She's wat more accomplished in the areas of conceit, lies and turncoatery.

>>696835353
No answers.Shills got cock stuck in mounth.

>>696843814


never said I was a right winger. You mistook me for one because of a genetic defect in the democractic mindset: The comfortable "liberals" who make up the spine of the democratic party have no idea that people to the left of them exist and when they discover such people it throws their paradigm into chaos.

They have no idea what to do when subjected to left wing criticisms of democratic policies. To them all that being "left" means is a sort of moral high ground they automatically occupy when arguing with right wingers. It allows them to dismiss people like trump out of hand and set themselves up for failure by marginalzing his supporters as small groups of the mentally weak, instead of seeing them for what they truly are, a significant portion of the american population whose lives have been traumatized by neo-liberal policies of the kind that the Clintons LOVE

In this, the democrat reveals his true purpose: a corporate bulwark against genuine left wing agitation.


you typed out all that bullshit, but you're essentially making the only argument one CAN make for voting democrat:

they're not republicans


The longer version of which is, " we're a bunch of lanyard-dicked rich idiots who've never left new york or washington, who love war and money almost as much as the republicans, but we ascribe to vague notions of tolerance"

by all means vote democrat (although why you would be proud of that remains a mystery) but don't pretend you're some sort of left-wing hero for doing so

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>>696844612
I know. I know. I was just trying to dig a little.

>>696844833
Apparently that comment/question isn't on their little sheet with the responses that they're supposed to give when confronted with certain comments or questions.

>>696844833
When you hafta rebait, consider changing lure.

But nice try.

>>696844179

"those niggers creating a dangerous political climate are the worst" he said, having denied he hated black people.

it's OK to hate black people, but its weird that you would do it, and in the same breath deny it.

>>696843871
They'll call this bait ti avoid having to answer, Anon, and you know it.

>>696844503
Evidence, please.

>>696845132
>too retarded to read

He clearly distinguished the difference between black people and niggers.

>>696845256

he should tell his black friend that he likes black people, but hates niggers and see what happens

>>696845234
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=leon+trotsky

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>>696845132

>>696832402
nope

>>696832402
nope, fuck hillary

>>696845256
Obviously.

If you want a little goodie, that nigger wossface Rock has a funny little story about the word faggot.

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>>696845329

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4

>>696833376
>talks about lies
>pro-hillary

>>696845339
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.

>>696845495

In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say nigger. So, I'm done with that routine."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggas_vs._Black_People

>>696839400
damn

>>696845357

ya there you go, let the hate flow through you

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>>696845234

>>696834886
When you call someone a shill because you have no counterpoints :')

Typical right-wingers pretending that racism isn't real by trying to say blacks and niggers are different.

They know damn well that they use the second term as a derogatory term for all blacks.

Their police have two sets of standards, one for blacks and another for everyone else. Arrest records prove this. Police brutality and who it's perpetrated against, proves this.

But trump fags will continue to turn a blind eye and pretend that nothing's going on.

Hillary is right. White people need to at least try to put themselves in blacks places when they run their mouths and enjoy their privilege. They need to choose their words wisely, and be aware of the harm that they cause to the black community each day.

>>696845822
Some cunt blarg about shit and you call it evidence? What are you? American?

>>696845785
theres no harm in tossing more trash into a dumpster fire

>>696845965
literally racism is real because i know what you're saying better than you do the post

you're a fucking joke

>>696832581
I unironically agree.

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>>696845132

>>696845690
He never claimed what he said was untrue, so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply.

>>696846042

i would agree

that's the weird thing ( to me ) about the conservative or alt-right discourse online

they say things that are objectively racist, but then get offended when you call them racist.

there's nothing wrong with being racist, in the sense that it is understandable to be racist. But by far the weirder thing for me is how upset they get when they're called racist.

>>696845965
>police have two sets of standards, one for blacks and another for everyone else

When people start being accountable for their own actions, instead of blaming someone else, then maybe things can start to change.

Want respect? Then earn it, by acting like a civilized human being.

Don't want the cops to harass you? Obey the law, and stop your people from being the largest group of criminals in the country.

When you start acting like humans, then people will start treating you like humans.

Riot, loot, murder, rape, and rob, and people will continue to treat you like you deserve to be treated.

>>696846339

i think he would prefer if white people would stop using his material as permission to go around saying nigger

i would also add that I dont think the "i like black people but i hate niggers" line is going to be particularly helpful to the current race-relation issues.

>>696846525
There is a clear difference in the two. Trying to cover that up is only adding to the problem and is in itself racist, because it's saying that they're all the same when in fact they are not.

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>>696832402
Nope, my old performing arts teacher does