>>696689906 obama but even more neocon/bloodthirsty, and of course will do nothing about the debt and is controlled by moneyed interests. she continues all of the horrible american policies like the drug war, nsa, etc...
Brexit is not an issue. business will just continue as always. UK didnt have the Euro anyway, so they'll be better of. EU politicians biggest fear is that it will be a success, because then others will also leave. Don't believe their FUD.
Where is this bollocks that Britain is fucked come from? It's all scaremongering. The worst thing that's happened so far is our politicians bailing on their parties which was pretty much a given if we voted out anyway. Whether we end up fucked or not i'll still be proud that we at least did something that expressed we're not happy with fat greedy brussels cunts imposing laws on our country and our borders just because we want to trade with the rest of Europe.
>>696692733 Germany couldn't force you or any one else to do anything. EU still relied on votes from all countries. You liked being in it until things got hard and you had to put up a measly sum of refugees. Then you balked and pussed out.
>>696692894 Again you mistake going to university for being intelligent. I'm a lawyer, went to a good uni, and I can tell you for a fact that at least half of the people attending western universities don't deserve to be there. They're useless brainwashed left wingers accumulating unpayable debt doing garbage degrees like creative writing and media studies. Your average working class brexit voter who knows a trade well and gets by is far more functionally intelligent, they just can't regurgitate chomskyite swill on command.
>>696693128 Lol you're a fool if you think this. The EU has been controversial in this country ever since we joined. The issue has destroyed every single tory prime minister since we joined. This whole independence thing has been long running for decades, we just haven't had a vote on it since 1975. The main issue was sovereignty and taking back control. Also you're a fool if you think the eu is in any way run by it's member states. The thing is run by an unelected commission which goes through a defacto german vetting process. EU 'democracy' is a joke.
>>696693309 >college is for fools >only an idiot would want the guaranteed increase in earning power >blue collar people willingly being left behind by globalization and technological progress are smart
fucking cucks. thats what 4cuck is reduced to. what a shame.
Trump is the only canidate weve had in decades that isnt a globalist/corporate puppet but you faggots cant stop sucking lame stream media nigger dicks to realise that. Stop buying into what they tell you on the tv and try to have an original thought for once, you weak willed semen guzzling nigger loving queens.
>>696693128 No we got the fuck out of there before it got any worse. Enjoy free movement when Turkey joins the EU and the second largest financial contributor to the EU has brexited the fuck out of your crooked organisation. Fucking pussy
>>696693591 >guaranteed increase in earning power I can't tell if you're 17 or just retarded. At least half of the people going to college these days are doing garbage humanities degrees that do nothing but saddle them with unpayable debt. Sure if you go into stem or law then you'll be fine, but anything else is worthless. And yes tradesmen and craftsman are far more intelligent than your average liberal english major who spent 4 years accumulating debt for a worthless qualification and goes on to become a public school teacher.
Trump may suck, but Hillary is a fucking criminal who is probably responsible for multiple murders. And Brexit was a good thing, it's saving Britain from being the welfare supplier for the rest of Europoor. If you think it had anything to do with racism or xenophobia, I do not understate it when I say you should honestly fucking an hero because you. Are. Clueless.
>>696694133 I mean you're literally just getting jewish subversion pushed down your throats. Chomsky, Friedan, Alinsky, Trotsky. It produces mindless leftists who would let an illegal immigrant fuck their wife as long as it made them appear non-racist.
>>696694225 You average working class brexit voter cares about the independence of his country and is worried about enormous levels of unskilled migration into their community. Also the inability of the eu to stop muslim hordes overwhelming it's borders is very worrying to them. Rotherham taught us all what white people can expect from 'diverse' communities.
>>696694429 I've been through the university system buddy, I'm a working professional now. It doesn't take a genius to realise that the names of your leftist 'intellectuals' have some serious echoes emanating from them.
>>696694588 >Racist Not an argument. They literally form mass rape gangs in every single town they live in large numbers in. Over 1400 white girls raped in Rotherham alone. Countless hundreds slaughtered in europe by these savages. Yes they're hordes, and yes we should push them back.
>>696694793 So youre while argument is we shouldnt be in a healthy relationship with russia because they are doing nefarious things like illegal expansion, yet you cant grasp that if we are on friendly terms with russia we could probably convince them to cut shit out? And im in 8th grade? Wow, cant wait for fall to come, and morning time /b/ is less retarded.
As someone who sees daily the shitty product of European free movement i can say i'm fucking glad we voted out. Whether we make an impact on it or not i have no idea but i'll still be glad we tried to do something unlike France and Germany who bend over and take throbbing muslim cock up their shitters every day. I work as an electrician and Eastern european workers are fucking shit. Barely any of them speak english and if they do it's some spazzy broken version, they don't intergrate, rather they stay in their groups babbling like morons eating like fucking animals, shit work quality because they will work for fuck all. Call me a rasist whatever i don't give a fuck. But when they hinder the progress of site work because they can't understand anyone then as far as i'm concerned they shouldn't be working here
>>696693097 No. The Eurabia experiment was failing before it ever got started. Things will continue to unravel as the Muslim hordes redpill liberalized children and other members like Greece continue to tank the already propped up and weak Eurabian economy. All the while future members like Turkey become less viable candidates and other nations look upon Britain's example and start to question why they too surrendered sovereignty and prosperity to Brussels and why they have to tolerate the nations and those citizens they hate like the Polish.
As it continues to rot from the inside out we will see not only the end of the EU but the smoldering flames of the next Euro war as weakening globalists switch from intellectual and economic terrorism to physical with their Muslim pets. The EU is ripe for a massive war.
Meanwhile, having renewed their friendship and bonds Britain and America will stand back laughing while making a respectable profit off the EU collapse and war.
Liberalism always fails and always takes down every ship that embraces it like a gaping hole in the hull.
>>696694972 Engage with my argument. Every single northern town with a sizeable muslim population has had mass rape gangs of muslims praying on white girls with 1400 raped in Rotherham alone. France and Germany now live in fear of their 'peaceful' muslim populations. How the hell is it irrational to want to stop that?
>>696695172 >>696695197 >>696695215 Again, engage with my argument. All you're doing is attacking me personally instead of what I'm saying. You leftists sure do love to pretend you're the 'logical' and 'reasonable' ones. But that blows up the moment you have to engage with an idea that you disagree with.
>>696695602 >racist There it is again, not an argument. Actually explain why immigration from the muslim parts of the world would be good for the west. Explain what possible benefits we get that outweigh rape gangs and terrorism. Explain why you think that having gone to university automatically makes someone more intelligent than someone who hasn't. If you refuse to engage then just leave.
>>696692953 simple question - how many criminal charges has Clinton faced? How many lawsuits suggesting fraud? how many times bankrupt? but she is the criminal? Republican fact free trolling name calling at its best. Lyin Don Trump, the poor man's friend eh? make america great, yeah? by selling a ponzi scheme? going bankrupt? conning people? not paying workers and suppliers?
>>696694877 I notice how you pointed out that the girls that were raped were white. You probably didn't even mean to do that, but it just spewed out of your heart. If you're a racist, just say you're a racist.
>>696695898 Again, not an argument. Trying to make a ridiculous insinuation about me personally and refusing to engage with my points. One more chance to engage and then I'm just ignoring you. What benefit of muslim immigration is there that outweighs rape gangs and terror attacks?
>>696696002 It's immensely relevant that they were right. You maybe aren't British so you don't know but a giant part of these scandals is always that the muslim gangs specifically target white girls because they see them as inferior human beings.
>>696694588 What the fuck is with people like this being so brain washed? I swear those fucking Muslims are TRYING to get liberals to admit they're terrible but no matter fucking what they won't do it, what the fuck happened?
>>696692269 they were my quads, and not in the least wasted. a> becasue I was right and b> because the whole concept of quads is a silly, childish fetishization of pseudo random numbers. What are you, Four? OOOOhhh loook the same number four times in a row! How exciting!!!
>>696696034 No there were at least 12 cases.... just like a liberal to ignore FACTS. I refuse to look them up but there are at least 12 cases. 4 of which she represented REGISTERED sex offenders. Seriously any woman should be down right applauded she is even trying to play the vagina card.
>>696689906 At the rate she's going, she is a fucking war path to become the first female POTUS. The clintons want to solidify their name in history. Thing is, she will be mediocre at best, but most likely terrible at her job and get played like a puppet. She may be the first, but she will be known as the cheating criminal female president.
>>696696184 Good thing i have never mentioned aggreviating russia. I want a good relationship with them, youve been the guy condemning them. If what they do is so bad, why havent we done something about >hurr its complicated If it is so complicated that we cant do something about it, it obviously isnt as bad as you are trying to make it out to be.
>>696695952 Con-man Donald Trump >>696696240 no we're opposing them because they do things like engage in false flag wars (Ukraine) they outlaw homosexuality and condone the beating and murdering of homosexuals their entire economy is built on corruption and elitism Putin said the biggest tragedy of the 20th century was the fall of the USSR before Ukraine it was Chechnya, Georgia, and Poland
You're a fucking idiot. Look up the shady shit Russia does instead of blindly supporting them because now they support Drumpf
>>696696027 We're talking about proportionality. Not once in British history before muslim immigration has mass sexual abuse on this scale taken place in our towns and cities. Sure the total nuumber of rapes committed by whites in the UK is larger than the number committed by muslims... BUT THE UK IS 87% WHITE AND 3% MUSLIM. Proportionally they commit far more rape than any other single group, and they are the only group that carries it out specifically targeting white girls on a mass scale. Even worse is the terror threat, bombings and killings. I am not saying 1.6 billion are to blame, only that the risk of letting any of them in far outweighs the benefits.
>>696692215 Independednt in what way? Still bound by treaties which we as s sovereign state accepted. still bound by regulations passed by EU parliament (which we as citizens elected) because we will have to sign a treaty with the EU to remain in EEA, but now we won't have a vote in the parliament, or seat on the council or commission - so we have less power, less control, less sovereignity, and the same laws being made by the EU applying to us. Yeah, a real step towards freedum. jesus christ you Leave people still have not woken up...
>>696696002 Not even the anon your talking to but what he's saying is fact. Those girls were fucking gangraped by muslim immagrants and the girls were white and English. The fact they were white and English was the reason they were their targets. if you want Muslims to slowly take over your country and treat you like second class citizens then vote accordingly. But don't imply you have to be racist to point out fact if it happens to be a 'sensitive' racial based topic
>>696696135 Increased Workforce (Skilled and Unskilled) Contribution to the Economy Muslim immigrants are less likely to be on benefits Cultural Diversity (arguable i suppose) Bi-Lateral Immigration Trade Agreements with former colonial nations (because brexit)
>left wing social warrior cucks Racist this! Racist that! You should let Tyrone fuck your wife it's adjusted due to his ancestors being enslaved >present valid argument about why Tyrone should fuck his wife Wow! It's the (insert current year) you need to grow up you racist! ,>letting in nudism would result in mass terrorist attacks None of them are terrorist! You really believe out of 10000 Muslim's some would be radical terrorist! Racist!
>>696692284 you don't live in the real owrld do you? What do you mean "give up your national independence"? every country which wants to do business with other countries has to agree to treaties that restrict its actions and impose obligations on its citizens - being in the EU allowed the UK to write those regulations which we have to obey in order to trade with 27 other countries - leaving, without a similar treaty means economic death. so we will accept a new treaty now which allows us into the EEA, which willmean we have exactly the same obligations - freely accepted as an independent nation. you cannot just do what you like, you have to accept compromise and regulations - from World Trade Organisation to UN to EU to G20 to International maritime Organisation, and all the others. So what do you mean by independence?
>>696696610 We aren't going to be a member of the single market anymore, but even if we were then we'd still regain much functional sovereignty by being outside further EU integration as well as being able to conduct our own foreign relations. Also you're misinformed if you think the EU parliament has any real influence over EU law. The thing can't even propose it's own laws, it's essentially a supreme soviet for the commission.
our president isn't real. the EU is real and the UK is whatever it is. obama didn't do anything he promised and obama phones and obamacare weren't really his thing; they were republican ideas from long ago.
it doesn't matter who we elect. the next stuff that happens will just happen. i almost want to vote for hillary so bitches see that she doesn't do shit for them and they learn their lesson. instead, i think i'm going to vote for trump just to be a dick. i'm a registered republican and the only things i'm going to vote for are legal weed in arizona--my signature was one of the few 250,000 for the 150,000 they needed and i actually felt some bitch hating me as she processed my info i filled out at medical weed shop--and trump for president; while wearing my "cartman 16" shirt.
Jesus I'm tired of fucking white people being pussies in 2016 in the name of political correctness. Most of Western Europe has been cucked hard. The UK and US are finally waking up though. But you still have super liberal faggots whose daily existence hinges on asking themselves "I wonder if these brown people like me? I surely hope so!". Blow shit up? That's okay I know MOST of you aren't bad! Shoot police officers? I need to check my privilege, you've been oppressed. GODDAMN FUCKING PUSSIES NEED TO AN HERO. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>>696692733 this level of ignorance about how the EU works is exactly why so many idiots voted out. and exactly why UK will not leave in the end - it was stupid decision by stupid people misled by Tories who were having a laugh. But just to humour you, what do you mean by sovereign and independent nation, and why is it so important?
>>696696975 Increasing size of your workforce is good for corporate bosses but bad for workers themselves as it lowers the inherent value of their Labour. Muslim immigrants are actually not less likely to be on benefits, they're the most welfare dependent group in the country. Half of muslim men and 3/4 of muslim women are unemployed. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8054403/Britains-coping-classes-at-breaking-point.html In functional terms all diversity does is create animosity, remember they also bring punjabi rape culture with them as well as the curry. There is very little appetite for your average british person to immigrate to the middle east. Trade agreements do not require immigration.
>>696697189 So explain how the saudis and russians are different in terms of civil rights? Ill wait. (Also claiming the intellectual high ground only works when you actually finish your higher education)
>>696697070 >racist xenophobic gibberish Holy Shit if this isn't bait /b/ is gone. Do you think the Muslim's would allow you in there country if we had a situation? No, they wouldn't at all. Don't give me that shit that we need to be the bigger people all right because that's a load of shit and you know it.
>>696697384 Nah, you can have access to the eea without being a member. any nation that wants to sell into the market must be export compliant. But we can have access without having to apply their regulations domestically.
All the negative hype over Brexit is far overblown. The UK is essentially saying, "we'd like to make our own laws, and not be subject to the unelected EU Commission." The UK could choose to keep the same open borders and ridiculous EU policies it has now, if the population wants it, they would simply decide themselves. The Pound and UK stocks didn't fall as much as people were crying they would, were not as low as they'd been several times in very recent history, and have already been pushing back. The only worry they have is how the trade deals with the EU are going to pan out... and given that the UK is one of the major consumer markets, producer nations, and stronger economies in Europe, the trade deals probably won't be very detrimental... and given that the EU has a good chance of heading for an economic crash in the next decade, the UK will be in an excellent position to renegotiate even better trade deals as they will.
The US has 1) Trump, who has no political experience, and who will be stopped at every turn by a congress full of establishment politicians who hate him or 2) Clinton, who is possibly the most corrupt person with a chance at the office in generations, who will gladly sell the US public out to the banks who fund her at every opportunity she gets. But she'll have the vagina card and a bunch of progressive speeches, so her idiot voter base will support her and probably keep her in office for a second term as well.
The US is in for some rough times ahead. The UK too, given the demographic change, but they have a chance at ending up okay in the short term.
>>696693309 >I can tell you for a fact that at least half of the people attending western universities don't deserve to be there. They're useless brainwashed left wingers accumulating unpayable debt doing garbage degrees like creative writing and media studies.
nice fact guy. Its just that as a university lecturer in a good university with over 30,000 students, only 6,000 are in the Arts faculty, and only 60 are doing Women's studies... maybe 20 on an MA in creative writing, maybe 100 doing film studies - but they actually learn how to makefilms and all get jobs in local media... so your fact is sort of bullshit...
>>696689350 >America is fucked if we let a racist dipshit like Trump get elected. He expresses the confusion and hatred of millions of racists dipshits who had their critical thinking surgically removed by their educational system. Just listen to them howl on /b/ when they should be howling on /pol/.
>>696697484 >racists Islam isn't a race. It's an idea. and majority of practicing muslims actually do agree with spreading Islam whether it be through violence, politics, or breeding people out. and most of them have no idea that what they believe in is oppressive. so yea, it does contradict the idea of a free west.
>>696697397 A sovereign and independent nation state is what it sounds like. A nation, with it's own state, who democratically elects their politicians to represent the nation. These polticians, having the consent of the people, are the only ones who may pass laws and restrict their liberty. Government by consent. Sovereignty is important because without it you're a colony, ruled by people who don't have your interests at heart.
>>696689139 Democratic party is more fucked and corrupt than the Republican. I mean. Fuck. That's some 4 horseman type shit. When the right-wingers are less extreme than the left, shit is fucked as fuck.
>>696697884 No. You are incredibly stupid http://www.welfareinfo.org/apply/ You are thinking of TANF and AFDC, these like food stamps and unemployment, amd housing assisstance are all welfare. Just stop you dumb faggot
>>696689139 The US-centric world order. Kiss it goodby bitches, it was a fun century, but the world's just about caught up to the damage done by two world wars, and that train isn't slowing down so the US can match its speed.
The american century is over. Now the race is between developing nations.
>>696689139 I love how all these shillary zombies can never put out any facts that trump is so "bad" even though shillary has plenty of her being the most corrupt lieing POS ever. Keep on sucking your masters dicks, that's what they want. Kek
>>696689350 >America is fucked if we let a racist dipshit like Trump get elected
It is in fact not racist to acknowledge the following:
1. Multiculturalism, like Capitalism, is a failed experiment. Enough already.
2. Islam is toxic, Muslims are a problem since terrorism is endemic to Muslim culture.
3. Illegal Aliens are--wait for it--illegal, whether they come to send money back home, to stay and take advantage of our healthcare and security or if they're in the country for illicit (usually drug-related) organised criminal activity. This is our country and we must decide who can and who can't be here.
4. We do need to recognise that although Vladimir Putin is a bit of a bully, the Russians are kicking ass in the near east, are killing terrorists quite handily and that Russia is now largely free of Islamic terrorism as a result precisely because they are badass and they are willing to do what it takes. We also need to normalise relations with Russia and engage in effective economic exchanges that will benefit both nations immensely, wean each other off dependency on Chinese manufactured goods and generally serve as an added bulwark against the continuing Islamisation of Europe.
5. #Black Lives Matter is a terrorist group, serving as a pawn fifth column as they're puppetted by Muslim groups. A Trump administration will not condone this sort of nonsense, will take decisive action against any rioting, looting, arson and cop killing in any more American cities. Obama's policies and statements on national and international TV only encouraged this mayhem, and Hillary (God Bless her soul, even though I am a great personal admirer of hers, I would never countenance her for high political office) would just be more of the same.
6. Trump is in no one's debt or in the back pocket of the DNC or the RNC, is beholden to no special interest groups and has the ability to galvanise public action.
We don't need more of the same; we need to Make America Great Again.
>>696698219 >Southwest Asia: Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and non-Arab nations such as Turkey, Northern Cyprus, Iran, and Azerbaijan. South Asia: Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and the Maldives. Southeast Asia: Indonesia, Brunei and Malaysia. East Asia: parts of China (Ningxia)
Yup, it'a race alright! Look at how many sterotypical brown people occupy the world they aren't Asian, or Arab, or black they are all Islam!
>>696695846 The most recent evidence of corruption is what another anon already mentioned: head of the DNC actively worked to support Clinton over Sanders. This information came to light because of hacked emails. Head of DNC steps down in disgrace and is suddenly given a position in Clinton's campaign.
There is also a literal trail of bodies behind her. A multitude of bizarre deaths have protected the Clintons from litigation.
And her political affiliation with governments in the Middle East that are human rights violators is extensive.
>>696693561 >The thing is run by an unelected commission which goes through a defacto german vetting process
no it goes through a vetting process by all the Eu states, and the Uk was one of the big three - with France and Germany. You have been listening to the British press which has been anti Eu for all time - never reported how powerful we were in the Eu. Never reported how much Eu legislation was started by UK - or how much was altered by UK reps on Council or Commission or parliament. As for taking back control - control of what? and who has that power now? you are a dupe of the tories who wanted control over things like civil rights and human rights - they have that control, not you. As for the eu regulations - we will have to follow them all - like Norway - so we have lost power and control. >>696694511 no sorry, someone who really does not know what he is talking about. tell us - what does it mean to be sovereign and independent? what have we gained? fuck all. we were an independent nation, westminster is sovereign and neither Germany nor France nor any other country had control - just as they do not now have control. they are all saying Britain must trigger article 50 immediately - well do we? must we? not because you say so, holland and merkel. we can do it or not do it if we want, when we want - because we are independent and sovereign nation. anyone who told you otherwise was lying (yes, Boris that means you you fat fucking liar - £350 million eh?)
With the brexit the uk is going to be better off, in the long run. And as long as we're able to keep that shilldog out of the White House; we're going to be exponentially better than we were/are. So all in all it'll be a win, win for both countries.
>>696697957 The first priority of any Government should be to ensure the safety of the people it represents. Allowing tens of thousands of migrants to enter from overseas without checking their background massively compromises the safety of those people.
Anyway, individual Muslims may be good or bad, but you must look and see that Islam itself is incompatible with Western values. Don't hate the players, hate the game.
>>696698794 Dude im not triggered by the services, im triggered by your misunderstanding of the word welfare. I can give two shits about the programs, i havent condemned them. I have only told you that welfare is not just what single mothers get, yet you have continued to show your ignorance.
>>696698315 The US's plan to stay relevant is to go back in time to when it thinks it was great.
Meanwhile the rest of the world is competing with itself to modernize as fast as it possibly can, with people left behind by progress literally stuck in the dirt.
I don't know if none of you travel, but go to Tokyo sometime. Shit is advancing all around us at a fantastic rate, while we slide back into joblessness poverty, the ancient old world class system & zero sum worldview we were based on, and eventually irrelevancy. You'd have to be a fucking sadist to want to raise a kid in this country.
>>696695670 no - she was assigned to a sex offender case, tried to get out of it, was forced to do it, represented him as she had to, and he got a plea bargain offer after a lie detector test that he accepted. she knew he was lying, and it put her off trusting lie detectors for life (good job - the science is bullshit)
stopping reading because you run across a term you do not understand or cannot confront is a problem and an impediment to understanding
You are probably more comfortable 'screening' all your news, so they never interfere with your comfortable Weltanschauung.
If you believe that Multiculturalism is something positive and is producing desirable effects, please defend this, because all I see is mayhem, denial and self-censorship (just take a look at Sweden, for example).
Bending over backwards to accommodate demonstrably inferior cultures and stating that any culture is just as good as any other ignores all historical and contemporary evidence to the contrary.
And bowing to the demands of Muslims (Islam is barbaric, by its own admissions and statements), is simply the height of folly.
>>696698753 You're making an on paper and legalistic argument that is disconnected with reality. In theory it's true that every nation has a say over the commission. However the unrivalled economic power of Germany and the amount that they give to these smaller and poorer nations gives them influence over these nations. They have never lost a battle over the commission. If you can't understand the principle behind soft power then youre a fool. Taking back control of our legislative procees, no longer will laws made by foreign institutions hang over the UK without the consent of our elected representatives. We also take back control of our foreign and trade relations, and have escaped what was the looming prospect of an eu army.
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