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>>683602360
Correction: People are born Bi.

>>683602360
>people are born qith down syndrome
Its the same disease

nobody cares

>>683602360
I was born gay
dad was fucking mom and I came out skewered on his cock

>>683602360

I am very tired of fags and trannies.

>>683602465

Tell us how two men having sex is a disease. I'd love to know how what two consenting adults do with their time in the bedroom qualifies as one.

people are born pedofiles that makes it ok

>>683603156
its not natural

doesn't happen in nature

>>683602360
OP's are born gay

>>683603156
Everyone on /b/ is 13. Don't bother

>>683603213
exactly, that makes it completely ok.
people aren't born child abusers though.

>>683603124
im trans and im tired of all these retarded faggots who think they are transexuals.
Ive known since I was a child and never EVER EEEEEEEEEVER met another trans person in 20 fucking years and then suddenly 1 in 10 people are apparently trans.

YEAH OK FUCK YOU

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How do you gayly give birth? Is this a new SJW thing?

>>683603329
>apostrophe

>>683603306
I know this is b8
and you already know there are tons
of animals that are gay as well.
stop posting..

>>683602360
if a male desires to have sex with another male, but chooses to die a virgin... is he gay?

>>683603306
Are you willing to bet on that?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

>>683602360
people aren't born with sexuality. it develops.

>>683602360
Yes, I am sure all the gay people are all exactly the same. Non of them got the way they are differently. It wasn't a choice for even one of the millions of gays to have lived. They all just come out of this neat little cookie cutter and are not indavidual humans at all.

>>683603574
Most likely.

He can't know for sure unless he has intimate sexual contact with a male he finds desirable tho.

>>683603677
When did you choose your sexuality?

>>683603819
It's not a choice

>>683603653
That's homosexual behavior, not homosexuality

They just fuck anything in order to procreate, sometimes it's a female so it works

>>683602360
yeh when the doc spanked me I asked him to do it again, only harder.

>>683603426
through your peenis

>>683603423
Awe... Did you lose your specail snowflake card?

>>683603977
>huehuheu south park huheuheu

>>683602360
>People are born with their fetishes
At least partly untrue. I have fetishes of which I can trace the origin to a very specific single event and the chain of events attached to it.

>>683604093
>homosexuality is a fetish

hohoho

>>683603428
I'll set the balance in the universe back to even. Youre gay.

>>683603959
Except many of them don't do it for procreation. They also do it for dominance or just to get a nice fuck.

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>>683603959
>That's homosexual behavior, not homosexuality

You're a retarded retard.

>>683604152
Explain to me how it isn't

>>683604065
tbh I had forgotten about that episode.

>>683603306
Cooking meat isn't natural. Believing in sky men isn't natural. Writing isn't natural. Television isn't natural. Sleeping for 8 hours isn't how humans are supposed to behave.

>>683602360
>People are born gay
That doesn't make it right. People are also born with pedophilia.

>>683604221
you know what. fuck you

Like op

>>683604285
Define fetish first, so we're on the same level.

>>683604285
Explain how it is.

>>683604285
They love. You don't love your fetish.

>>683604221
we found the faggot, guys

>>683602360

no they're not

they become gay because they are mentally ill

>>683604444
Quad quads wooooot

>>683603541
We have observed exclusively gay behaviour in only very few specimen of a very narrow range of species. Bisexual behaviour is quite common, exclusive homosexuality is basically non-existent in the animal kingdom. Not that I don't agree that homosexuality is fine and nobody should dictate me where I put my dick as long as nobody gets hurt, but sticking to the facts is more important than being nice.

>>683604444
Quads says it

>>683602360
you're the proof

Are you implying that babies know at birth what their sexuality is?

>>683603959
>About 10% of rams (males) refuse to mate with ewes (females) but do readily mate with other rams.

Babbies are pretty gay 2bf

>>683604444
What is the definition of natural?

>>683604444
>Sleeping for 8 hours isn't how humans are supposed to behave.
You're right, it's 6.

>>683604548
I love my brother. I love many of my male friends more dearly than I ever loved a woman, but I'm not sexually attracted to them. Love is no factor in sexual preference (i.e. fetishes).

>>683604453
Peoe aren't born child abusers. It's literally human nature to be attracted to young people, they're more fit to bear and raise children and have more time to do so. However it's not okay to act on those instincts.

>>683604444
everything that happened ever is natural though. The argument should be that homosexuality is not does not help our species to survive. In fact it doesn't even help homofags survive. Kind of like how we don't need religion for morals.

>>683604690
Are you implying that because babies do not realize they are human at birth, they are not human?

>>683604725
Something that your primate ancestors did or that occurs in nature.

>>683604803
he's clearly not

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>>683602360
It is possible that it's a birth defect, but it's also possible that faggots acquire their degeneracy. It really makes no difference, so long as we acknowledge that it is objectively disordered and unnatural to try to fertilize some other man's turds.

>>683604730
Actually it's 4. 4 hours asleep, 2 hours awake.

>>683604710

and yet buttfucking is not mating, its buttfucking

>>683604740
Gay people don't always fuck. They're like heterosexual couples. Is heterosexuality a fetish?

>>683604803
That just solidifies my point, they don't know anything. Everything is taught, only insecure motherfuckers think stupid shit. Either being gay is a mutation gone wrong or it's taught.

>>683604453
>>683603398

>>683604946
Duh, but the argument he makes is idiotic.

"babies do not know whether they are gay or not, thus people are not born gay"

>>683604954
I heard six.
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3274428/Forget-eight-hours-sleep-night-actually-need-SIX-scientists-declare.html

>>683604093
Tell us about them, /b/ro, we're curious

>>683604742
>it's not okay to act on those instincts
If anyone risks getting hurt. Which is why it's totally fine to fuck other consenting dudes if you want - 'cause there's no harm.

Same applies to incest. If there's no risk of pregnancy, there's no real harm in it (ignoring what society might think).

Same also applies to some cases involving children, since most children are very sexual creatures. And any sexual relations between an adult an a child doesn't necessarily imply rape or anyone getting hurt (again ignoring what society might think).

>>683604772
In that case, none of the things I listed (besides cooking) help humans survive. Some of them in fact hinder it. And homosexual relationships could help those individual humans survive. There are 2 providers in the relationship and no children to provide for (based solely on a primal viewpoint).

>>683605032
>Everything is taught
That is nonfactual.

>>683604742
>It's literally human nature to be attracted to young people
We're not talking about young adults. We're talking about kids. It's not human nature to be sexuality attracted to kids.

Just like it's not human nature to be sexuality attracted to the same sex.

>>683604995
no because its for procreation. it serves a purpose.

>>683605074
How is it idiotic? Prove that people are born gay.

>>683605227
Pedophilia is more or less accepted in homo circles.

>>683604952
It's objectively disordered to believe in magic sky men and yell at other people because they believe in different sky men. It's objectively disordered to destroy the only planet you have to live on. The difference is the "disorder" of homosexuality doesn't harm other people.

>>683604772
Homosexuality serves no biological purpose so it seems to just be a something to do when you're bored

>>683605156
Why is there an age of consent then?

>>683603812
then if it takes an act of sexuality to confirm ones sexuality, then u cannot be born with any sexual prefferences

>>683605277
Maybe procreation has gotten out of hand and the humans have adapted to slow the growth of the populations. Think of it that way if you can't accept anything else.

>>683602360
niceme.me

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>>683603124
same here tbqh

>>683603124
This. This right here. I'm not even pissed anymore, I'm just tired and bored of their antics

>>683605379
Religion.

>>683604952
I suspect it's a little of both

>>683605087
To operate properly according to society's rules. Human bodies are built to spend 4 hours asleep and then 2 hours awake, though. That's why you'll still feel tired even after 6-10 hours of sleep.

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>>683602360

>fixed

>>683605452
That is b8 and you know that

>>683605156
The problem is that they don't know what they're doing. So that it's to easy to take advantege of that.

>>683605375
I don't think you understand what objective means. Your attack on religion is subjective; but introducing your 23 chromosomes into another man's anal cavity is an objectively disordered behavior. As an orientation, it is objectively mental illness. There's no need to get mad about basic science.

>>683605377
You are suffering from the delusion that every biological advantage must be solitary, self-benefitting, and direct. Advantage may be conferred on one's close kin-group and provide a benefit that will select; a genetic trait may do one thing in one sex and a very different thing in the other.

>>683605412
But that's bullshit. Any review of history will show homosexuality ascendant not in moments of population density but in moments of cultural decline and decadence.

>>683605561
Well, I'm not going to argue. All i will say is that some may need more sleep than others so the figures could all be estimates/averages.

>>683604995
>Gay people don't always fuck
Gay is defined as the sexual attraction to the same gender, whether they engage in sexual activity is irrelevant. And no, heterosexuality isn't a fetish, it's the norm.

No, heterosexuality is not a fetish. First the definition of a fetish according to the google suggestion for the search "fetish definition": "a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc."
The key word here being "abnormal". Heterosexuality is the norm and therefore doesn't classify as a fetish, homosexuality isn't the norm and therefore does.

>>683603124

I'm gay and I'm tired of hearing people talk about it and lumping gays in with trannies.

I'm gay, but that doesnt define my personality. Millenials seem to build their personality around their sexuality/gender and it's really fucking annoying and making people who are legitimately gay/lesbian look worse.

>>683605205
Neither is the claim that being gay is inborn. If that were actually the case we were supposed to gay people mutants.

>>683605156
That's the point I was trying to make. Except in modern society, children of a certain age aren't familiar enough with the workings of the world to be able to properly consent. That's why acting on pedophilic urges is degenerate.a

>>683602360
OP posts a pic of which OP is the natural proof of. There is nothing to see here.

>>683605412
That doesn't make sense if gay people are born into low density populations.

>>683605585
>but introducing your 23 chromosomes into another man's anal cavity is an objectively disordered behavior.
Well that's just like your optinon man.

>>683602360
it's more correct to say people are born bisexual. then something happens that makes them unable to enter in to a healthy relationship with the opposite sex.

>>683605578
Religion was created to suppress the real human nature. All laws were created by religion to separate us from our hairy cousins. "I believe"

>>683605277
You are right that it's not a fetish, you're wrong that it's sole purpose is procreation. It's also a matter of controlling group dynamics and relief stress as observed in bonobos for example. Also by your definition contraceptive sex would be a fetish on its own and that doesn't make sense. See >>683605740

>>683605227
I'm not talking about young adults, unless you consider 12-15 a young adult.

>>683605715
Wrong

>>683602460
This.
Look at the Romans and how they used ass-play to prepare for battle.
>History mothafucka

>>683605750
B-b-b-but not letting trannies in the women's dressing room is the biggest LGBT issue of our era, and you're G.

>>683605345
No it's not you fucking faggot, don't talk about shit you don't know about.

>>683605844
That does if the small populous goes into the worlds.

>>683602360
ITS TRUE OP WAS A FAGGOT SINCE HE WAS BORN

>>683602360
Pizza, naturally grows on trees

>>683605867
Wrong

>>683605857
It's not, though, since we understand objectively what is nature's purpose in packing 23 chromosomes into the head of a sperm cell.

>>683605899
>It's literally human nature to be attracted to young people
What do you consider "young people"?

>>683605935
Its not like they are homeless gay kids thrown out onto the street, forced to suck dick for a place to sleep. Yeah but let's make sure Kaitlin Jenner is comfortable taking a leak in Hollywood Heights

>>683605922
Well, gosh, if you say so... but are of course unable to think of a single example to the contrary.

>>683605585
Objective: Not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Believing in sky men makes no sense objectively.

>>683606083
Everything with secondary sex characteristics and health indicators.

>>683605958
It is, though. Go to a mainstream straight sex story web site, and there aren't pedo categories. There are on sites like nifty.org. And most gays will describe their first sexual encounters as being while children and with adults. The pedo gene is pretty much the gay gene.

>>683606203
Objectively, sticking a penis in an ass (male or female) doesn't do any wrong or good. So who the fuck cares?

>>683605715
/this
Ironically the leftists push free love, divorce, and abortion on the masses. Then complain that gays should get married because straight people aren't saints. I view gays like I view trans. Mentally Ill.

>>683606064
>objectively disordered behavior
Like masturbation
Or blowjobs
Or anything else than cum in a pussy

Beside it's not just about sex. But that's an other discussion

>>683605740
So if the scat fetish becomes a norm then it's no longer a fetish? The fuck you thinking boy.

>>683605750
I've known some solid gay people that were more sound than the average person and kept their private live to themselves like most people.
What is your opinion on raging queens and obvious faggots? Surely they do more of a disservice to perception of the demographic than trannies and hipsters since they seem to be more accepted by the "community"?

>>683606203
You still don't understand what objective means.
Perhaps your brain is AIDS-addled?
Note, too, that you're the one bringing religion into the conversation. It suggests that you can't address what others actually argue, so have to invent a straw man.

>>683605375
Well we dont need gays for the species to survive just like we don't need religion for morals. How do you like that?

>>683606231
Ok I'll put it like this. It's not natural to be attracted to humans before they hit puberty yet some people are. This is a desire that is not natural just like being gay.

>>683606367
It doesn't do any wrong or good to stick it in a corpse or a sheep, either, by your measure.

>>683605715
That's because most of history was written by Christians dipshit. And the last time I checked, Christians hate fags.

>>683606180
You mean like this whole bunch of examples you named?

>>683606419
Exactly. Though thanks to social stigma and what's left of our evolutionary history that won't happen too soon if at all.

>>683606318
Uh, most gay people I know had their first experience with someone their own age, and often of the opposite sex. Most of the people I know had to come to terms with their sexualty internally (around teenage years) and then "come out". A small portion of gay people may be pedophiles, but that's because there has always been a male-on-boy domination, but that has nothing to do with gay culture and much more to do with Catholism and Masonry influences, they "straight" people.

>>683606022
That is a dumb argument. The world isn't overpopulated.

>>683602360
Maybe. Idk.

>>683606416
There are lots of objectively disordered behaviors that heteros engage in; but gays only engage in them, and they are so ordered that they only want to engage in disordered behavior. Whereas every straight guy wants to and enjoys emptying his balls into a tight vagoo.

>>683606535
Actually do need religion, tho.

>>683606560
In fact it's exactly the same: A fetish (=sexual behaviour differing from the norm). However the moral implications are different, but that doesn't change the fact that it's inherently the same concept.

>>683606579
Ya, someone fucking a sheep or a corpse is none of my business, as long as I'm not the sheep or corpse.

>>683606718
Exactly.
>>683606676
Also
"a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc."
So liking boobs and Vagina and having sexual desire towards it is a fetish?

>>683606618
I'm happy to name some. Homosex was tolerated broadly in ancient Greece, at a time when having large families was desirable and there was no problem of overpopulation. It is despised in a country like China, with a one-child policy and massive overpopulation.
Now you name examples where overpopulation caused faggotry.

I was born lesbian, but most girls I have been were made gay through nurture like going to an all girls school or having only brothers or daddy issues. Girls these days also are avoiding you men because of feminism and wanting to be unique so more pussy for me.

>>683606847
>However the moral implications are different
Societal consequences are different. Both are morally wrong.

>>683606717
Yeah, no, homosexuality has always been about man on boy. Always. Blaming Catholicism and Masonry for pederasty is absurd.

Water is wet

>>683607065
It's despised in china due to religion and old world views.

>>683605703
All I know is homosexual relationships are biological dead ends. Since sex (in biological terms) is for procreation, the only advantage conferred by stuffing some dudes poop chute is that said dude will be more inclined to help you. Since you don't need all that to have a bond with any dude then it's a superfluous action which again proves no biological purpose. Keep deluding yourself with dudes asses

>>683607181
You're fucking right about that mate.

>>683606942
>So liking boobs and Vagina and having sexual desire towards it is a fetish
No. As stated, the keyword is "abnormal" which is a term varying over time but objectively determinable for this point in time and currently homosexuality is abnormal while the sexual desire towards boobs and vagina isn't. Stop thinking of "abnormal" as a negatively connotated term and everything falls into place.

>>683606941
While I disagree with you, it is nice to see someone who accepts homosexuality is also willing to say he accepts bestiality and necrophilia on the same grounds.

>>683603819
prolly in puberty, its a subconscious thing, which means u dont understand the reasons why u made the decision

that doesnt make it not a decision tho.

They sure are, OP.

>>683607146
>Both are morally wrong
Not with my set of morals, but since you said "morally wrong" and not "objectively wrong" there's not really a point in arguing as your statement is correct in the context of your opinions.

>>683607115
so you remember being born and thinking, man i need to get me some pusi

>>683607197
So no examples of the claim that overpopulation leads to gay butt sex?

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gays are happier than most

>>683606941
Sheep have feelings, you monster

>>683607115
Pretty valid I'd say. I've heard from many of my girlfriends and girl friends in the past that they think "all women are naturally bi". In the end, I agree with that majority nurture idea. I honestly think a lot if it is a modern day hegemony/propaganda pushed through media to confuse the sexes. A soft Eugenics for those "plugged in" I guess. Although, I'm not one to judge or care how others live but myself and those I'm close to. Do ya thing people

>>683606479
straw man is when u attack the person making the argument, i think u mean 'misdirection' and/or a red herring.

>>683607249
They use Abnormal as an undetermined amount of gratification, I'm dumb as hell and even i can see that.

>>683607372
No examples because there aren't any or I can't be bothered to search. Probably the first one.

>>683607422
Gays are more likely to live in poverty, to commit suicide, to die of different diseases and have a shorter life expectancy. I'm not judging them, but you're objectively wrong.

>>683607339
I said morally wrong because you said "moral implications", usually moral in an absolute context.

>>683607340
Kinda since I was 4 I literally went to bed with my sisters and mother and took their panties and pretended to not know how to shower so my mom would get neked with me

>>683607291
Hell I'm a Nihilistic Anarchist, I accept most things others do as long as it doesn't harm or limit me.

>>683607372
>Initially the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly, doubling only every 145 days. The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice, even though the experiment setup allowed for as many as 3840 mice in terms of nesting space. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against.[2] After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones.” Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun

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>>683607497
If you have to change the meaning of words to make a definition fit your narrative, you're probably wrong.

>>683607293
yeh. young people dont have enough life experience to make responsible choices with regards to their sexuality. why we have 16 and preg

>>683603541
>claims Homosexuality is natural
>entire species goes homosex
>dies out after living generations did not reproduce
>inb4 hurr durr there are bisexual species
dont mix up those two.

>>683607340
Also just having crushes on grils since kindergarten and not wanting to wear girly things. Basic things.

Nope. My twin is gay, I am not.

>>683607798
But being homosex isn't unusual any more buddy so were's your point just gone.

>>683607488
No, attacking the person is ad hom.
Straw man is putting arguments in the other person's mouth that are easier for you to refute than what they are actually saying.

>>683607919
>Implying that girly things aren't cultural and are somehow natural

>>683607969
If 2% of the population is homosex, and 9% has diabetes, isn't it 4.5 times more normal to have diabetes than to fuck another dude's ass?
capcha: select all creampies

>>683603156
on a greater scale, it is kind of a disease.
the survival of a species relies on constant reproduction. imagine every single human bean (lol i maed a maymayjoke lelelelel) being infected with this disease. humanity would completely vanish after 100 years.
dont get me wrong. let gay people do their thing, i dont really care. live and let live. but stop claiming homosexuality is natural. its not. homosexual behaviour would never survive in nature.
oh and also, dont mix that up with bisexuality. that thing works.

>>683602360
Well like 4% of the world population is but seems like everyone else isn't broken

>>683608300
They're both common things so I would have no choice but to agree with you there.

>>683608126
not implying that, i think that homosexuality is a fetish still. I should have included that i guess

>>683608317
>Wrong
Sorry not all of us are inbreds like you.

>>683607969
It still is. Technically until 51% of the population are (exclusively) homosexual.

>>683607964
This.
If there were a "gay gene" then both twins would be gay. Yet it the vast majority of cases, only one twin is gay and the other isn't. Even in identical twins. Gays choose to be gay
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2013/06/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/

>>683608317
Do you have any clue how genetics work?

>>683608654
Implying that breeding an asshole isn't retarded

>>683608317
increased levels of homosex are the signs of a group's extinction, namely western civilisation.
Third world countries would carry on ignorantly.

>>683607293
Nope, I've wanted to kiss both boys and girls from when i was way younger than puberty, just never realized what it meant till I was 12, but I was objectively bi.

May have been something influencing it super early, but definitely pre-puberty in my case.

>>683608317
That's why it's considered abnormal. Biologically, sex is for procreation anything else is created by people for entertainment value and a deviation from the norm

>>683608815
>That's why it's considered abnormal.
by homophobes, sure

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>>683603156
Because it falls under the qualification of a disease. It's non-judgemental, it's just a basic fact.

>>683602360
Only gays are.

>>683607735
this scares me. i live in a major city

>>683604285
Because being straight isn't a fetish.

>>683608778
I look at it the same as reproducing with a hand, or a fleshlight, or a watermelon.
If it makes that person (or two) get off and they don't mind, then all for it.

>>683602360

>Case in point

>>683608880
>Because it falls under the qualification of a disease.
hahaha
no faggot

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>>683608916
>Reproducing with a watermelon.
phrasing

>>683607735
>Did you really have to greentext all of that?

>>683607919
pretty sure ur just gay because you have more of the same sex in ur family.

>>683608735
Unusual
>not habitually or commonly occurring or done
It's estimated at around 9-19% So I would call that kind of usual

>>683604285
>proving a negative

faggot

>>683604952
>It is possible that it's a birth defect
no it isn't faggot

>>683609003
>a disorder of function in a human
How is homosexuality not exactly that?

>>683603156
It's a mental sickness

>>683609028
>self kek