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What /b/'s opinion? on this movie

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What /b/'s opinion? on this movie
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>>675590428
outstanding. my favorite movie
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>>675590428
Its so good that superman gets stabbed in the heart by doomsday as superman is impaling him with a kryptonite spear that batman made. Then superman dies.
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>>675590902
Motherfucker
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>>675590428
Only Plebs think it is overrated/don't understand the 3rd act
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forgettable
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>>675590428
MUUUUUUUURRRRPHHHHH!!!
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>>675590802
Shit taste detected
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>>675590428
stupid. there are so many moments where I thought "why?"
>its easier to construct and fly a giant ship from earth than to fix the atmosphere
>the death of the guy from american beauty on the water planet
>onthe freezed planet they are euphoric because of some probes, look at fucked up earth and now look at this freezed rock .. whats better?
>flying into a black hole
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Science.
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Finally got around to watching this around 6 months ago. Still think about it daily.

Also: dat soundtrack <3
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>>675590428
Crap
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>>675591492
>stupid.
>"freezed" [sic]
fuck off
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>>675591617
>>675591372
>>675591263
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>>675590428

I liked the emotional aspect of it morr than anything. Coupled with the soundtrack?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APGJeWokONU#

I cried
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>>675590428

i loved it. my family slept through it. so i fucking killed my family.
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>>675591699
oh look, this guy made a spelling mistake his opinion must be incorrect.
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>>675590428
Ignore the fucking rotten tomato meter, it was outstanding and gave me a new perspective on space and reality I hadn't really imagined before.
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7.5/10
the opinion of anyone claiming everyone elses opinion is invalid is invalid
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>>675590428
>massive si-fi plot
>Epic use of interesting physics-phenom
>great soundtrack

Then they fucking ruined it with the whole "love is the answer" bullshit
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>>675592113
Ma Nigger
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its a good movie op IMO but if you went and asked /tv/ theyd all shit on it
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Skyrim made a better game
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>>675592268
> 110% this
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the ending was cheesy as fuck
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>Gives himself the coordinates of the secret NASA facility.
>Tries to stop himself going to the secret NASA facility.
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>>675592113
Man, you really need to watch Carl Sagan's The Cosmos if you want your perspective space and reality massaged.
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3 hours of shit.
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It was yet another example of "why do people like Christopher Nolan?" Well I take that back somewhat, Memento was fine.
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First watch was good but it really got into fantasy when he went in the black hole wtf.
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"Then they fucking ruined it with the whole "love is the answer" bullshit"

Ain't that always the case? Like every time that line comes up I wanna stab the writers.

"its easier to construct and fly a giant ship from earth than to fix the atmosphere" Uh, yeah, it is, we do the first one routinely and can't fathom how to do the second on a global scale.

On topic though, was a pretty darned good movie. Most of the non-speculative stuff was right on the mark, and all of the fantastical stuff was very well planned and shown, with some wonkiness due to all the gravitational/relativistic/time-dilation stuff that happened because SPAAAAAAAAACE
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>>675590428
Ok entertainment.

Too few space movies out there anyway, you watch what you get.
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Overrated? Maybe, but it's still he best SF movie in the last 10 years.
I mean, what else we got? 'Gravity'? A copy of 'A New Hope'? 'Jupiter Ascending'? 'Martian'? (top kek)
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6/10
not as good as zootopia
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>>675593194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TZd95BCKMY
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>>675590428
Lost me at "love is the only thing that can transcend time and space". The robots save everyone's ass multiple times, why not just make the whole mission unmanned? If plan A never was going to work why bother sending humans to scout? Why do robots operate controls manually with their stupid rectangle arms? God damn.
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>>675593276
A Scanner Darkly
Moon
Sunshine
District 9
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ok so, when they are leaving earth they need a big rocket full of fuel.

but when they go down to the water planet I think, the deorbit, and launch back up on one small tank of fuel.

also, I think they mention that planet is like 1.2 times earth's gravity.
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MUURRPPH
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>>675593666
Satan trips wisdom
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>>675593666
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>>675593666
Checked

Don't remember the specifics in this movie, but, well, you need fuel for the trip, and you need to lift the fuel, too. The more fuel you lift, the more power you need, and for that, you need more fuel.

Rocket science is fucked up shit.
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>>675590428
better than revenant and force awakens but worse than hateful eight
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>>675593158
The Prestige was a great movie.
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>>675592268
>>675592302
The souuuundtrack was yeesssssssssssss
>>675592666
will do satan
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>>675593975
Even taking that into account, you need a rocket like this to move a small load into orbit.

If this planet was 1.2 times earth gravity they would need at least a rocket of this size.
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>>675591372
One day you will grow up and realize just because you do not like something does not mean it is shit.
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>>675592268
Exactly. when Anne Hathaway starts crying and talking about love transcending time and space it lost me.
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>>675592666
seconded
and checked
and hail satan
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>>675594627
Just because you like something doesn't mean it's not shit. Interstellar was a shit movie for people who like to stare at a screen for 2 hours and not think for a second.
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>>675594558
Kek yeah, just looked at the screencaps and that ship needs to have a fantasy drive to get off the planet, and if they have a fantasy drive, the early film makes even less sense.
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Did they bring artificial wombs with them? or is anne hathaway going to have to birth an entire generation of children herself.

Then raise them herself.
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I worked on this film, AMA
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>>675595267
who the fuck wrote the ending and why how did that make it through filming.

I assume it was a nigger that got the job through affirmative action. Did nobody disagree with him because they would be called racists?
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>>675595267
Why is OP such a fag?
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>>675595169
I think that they would make artificial wombs because it wouldn't be logical for a single female to birth 3,000 human babies and raise each and single of them
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>>675595510
Chris (Nolan) and his brother Jonathan wrote it together. I'm not sure who came up with the ending as I wasn't involved in the development process.
I was only part of principal photography (shooting)
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>>675595534
If I only knew man...
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>>675595797
well your part of the movie was good enough.
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It's not bad... but the script was very mediocre...
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>>675595912
Thank you, it was quite an experience
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>>675591372

You must be in the category of being too fucking stupid to understand it
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>>675592268
Fucking this. Everything was on point up to that part. Love. Pshhhh.
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the part about fake moon landings was weird, no one thinks that still... i mean the moon landing hoax is a hoax has a wiki page even.

for such a researched movie, it seems fucking odd and out of place.

beyond that, a lot of the end graphics are actually done without CGI.

was a good movie, good introduction to our youth about space and sci-fi.

I still liked Contact though.

was better done, but same heart.
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>>675593664
This guy gets it.
10/10 selection.
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>>675592666
satanic trips
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>>675590428
I have a few problems with this movie.

>Why did the CIA choose to bring 3 potential mercs onto his plane.
>Who the hell is "Smee"?
>Know one cared about Bane before the mask..? Aww :(
>When EXACTLY is the time for fear?

please halp cause i want to understand this movie. Is Interception a sequel or a prequel to The Fast and the Furious?
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Is the whole thing about them being on a planet for like an hour being equal to almost ten years outside of it, real?
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Am I the only one that HATED the audio in this film? The dialogue was muddy and difficuilt to hear which made trying to understand the film difficuilt... but luckly I understood the science behind it so I already knew what was going on.

But not being able to hear the dialogue properly really ruined this film for me.

Christopher Nolan did this on purpose and its the reason why I hated this movie so much...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/christopher-nolan-breaks-silence-interstellar-749465
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>>675597502
Yeah. It's Special Relativity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox
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Very good movie, not the best space opera but still very good we need more movies likes this.
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>>675597684
It was troubling to me as well, I saw it in the Chinese Theater here in LA in 70mm IMAX, where apparently Nolan spent countless hours testing the sound and picture before the release, and I had problems hearing the dialog.
Granted english is not my first language but I believe I have a pretty good grasp on it. Matthew was just muttering the whole time.
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>>675598346
I had originally downloaded it and thought that I just had a bad audio quality.

NOPE

saw it on blueray and it was exactly the same issue... I work in professional home audio systems and for me this film was a pile of dogshit for audio.

I dont know what nolan was smoking.
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>>675598842
I don't know man, I guess in his older years he's somehow trying to transcend his predisposed edginess but he just ends up looking like a total schmuck in the process.
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>>675594558
The way we lift rockets into space currently through the multi process stage rocket propulsion system is EXTREMELY inefficient. The amount of fuel that is wasted entering the atmosphere is almost unbelievable and laughable.

Very soon and entirely different propulsion system will be used for space flight.
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>>675597684
>but luckly I understood the science behind it so I already knew what was going on.

No you don't understand advanced physics and you never will.
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>>675598842
>>675599089
samefagging at it's finest
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>>675590428
Loved it.

Seen it roughly 5 or 6 times by now.

I'm hoping they make a second one where he has to go get Brand.

Also hoping it isn't shit if they do make a sequel.
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>>675590428
It's a SciFi that has you thinking while also engaging you into a story you can care about. It's a favorite for me for sure.
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Sucked dicks, but nice that Matt Damon got stranded to set up The Martian sequel.
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>>675590985
If you're gonna bait at least TRY.
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Anyone remember Silent Running? The robots reminded me of that a bit, which was cool
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This guy gets it
>>675592268
point of no return:
>>675594960
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>>675594019
at least you're right about force awakens
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>>675590428
DONT LEMME LEEEEEEEV MARPH


MARPH PLS


MAAAAAAARRRRRRPPPPHHHH

>There. There's the whole script.
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likely to never happen...
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>>675600257
actually jettisoning away empty fuel tanks is extremely efficient, fuel-wise. The tecnique is wasteful due the jettisoned tanks themselves, wich we have to replace every time.

SpaceX is working on a fully reusable rocket though.
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>>675601685
underrated post
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>>675590428
2 hour movie to watch a man grow plants out of shit....
what a waste
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>>675590902
I hope you die of ass cancer
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>>675602331
Yes thank you. My favorite SF movie of all time.
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>current humans enter a wormhole to save future humans who built the wormhole to save past humans

the timeline doesn't make any sense, future humans couldn't exist to create the wormhole to save themselves
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>>675602488
Deus ex machina have always been awful. Luckily at that point of the movie I had already lost interest and no longer cared.
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>>675603287
Using thousands of gallons of fuel just to break into the stratosphere is not efficient.
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>>675590902
Fucking kek! More people should know this
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>>675603590
That's why you don't make time travel movies. They rarely work.
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>>675592268
Loved the movie, but I agree that the whole love thing was fucking stupid.
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>>675597684
This is unfortunately becoming a thing in audio production. If it's not the perfect simulation of listening to people from behind, then it's music mixed in way too loud.
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>>675603590
Future humans that built the wormhole to save the past human had always existed.

Past. Present. and Future.

Time travel is so fucking complex it's literally impossible to understand.
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>>675603658
>he thinks rocket fuel is gasoline

adorable
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>>675603846
>the arrow of time and entropy aren't real things

top zoz
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>>675592268
Agreed
Had so much potential but squandered it with a bullshit fake sense of sentimentality. I'd rather have a really weird cryptic ending than the one we got.
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>>675603658
But it is anon. it is literally the best thing we can do.
How else would you throw a piece of metal the size of a small plane in orbit, at 7 km per second?
You are confused. Efficient is non necessarily cheap.
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I loved it up until the flying into a black hole where your entire life looks like a library part. It seemed realistic all the way through the movie, then instantly just got really stupid. Still, the emotional aspect was really good.
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>>675603846
essentially you are using the "it's magic" excuse.
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>>675603904
Please elaborate upon your knowledge of rocket fuel and the properties that make it the most efficient fuel source known to man.

Also please explain to us how this giant fucking booster that is basically a "directional bomb" is the most efficient method of gaining access into the upper atmosphere. Really you should be working at NASA perfecting the booster as it needs no more adjustments than what you can offer.
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>>675590902
So what? Still going to watch it
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>>675604028
Before gasoline was invented the most efficient way to travel from city to city was by horse back or carriage.

Does that mean the horse is the absolute most efficient way to travel? No, and that is why the combustion engine was invented.
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Had a great potential to be:
>I can overcome my animal survival instincts and sacrifice myself for my entire species, I can expand that which makes us human - empathy - to entire humanity.

And it was reduced to:
>omg i luv my daughter
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>>675590428
the power of love ending was stupid but overall I really liked the movie. I am bias though as "realistic" space thrillers are my favorite genre.
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>>675604181
Time isn't something that we can plot definitively, it's always changing. However, everything that has ever happened or will happen already has and already exists. Time has no beginning or end, time is infinite in both directions.
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>>675595169
Well, she might have seeing that she is a strong and independent black woman that don't need no man
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>>675590902
kek
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>>675593276
At least Gravity was scientifically accurate. The worst complaint I heard about is:
"most of earth's artificial satellites travel west to east, while the debris we see in the movie travels west to east."
Interstellar, while bragging about its scientific advisors, has a lot of stupid shit. Examples include:
-a planet so close to a black hole to have tide of that magnitude should be ripped apart by gravity diferentials.
-if the ship orbits that planet, half the time it is actually closer to the black hole than the planet itself, so the whole bulshit about 20+ years difference between the black guy and the away team makes no sense.
-ship travels between planets in a matter of hours, like it's a cheap space opera.

hope you get what i'm saying, I'm doing my best with my broken english
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>>675604500
all I said is that, fuel-wise, the jettisoning system is the most efficient to deliver a payload into space, not that a hypotetical better system will never be invented. Learn to read.
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>>675604696
>entropy doesn't exist

top fucking zoz mate you're retarded
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>>675605317
>Gravity was scientifically accurate
>George Clooney dies because he's "too heavy and pulling them down"
>in a microgravity environment

ruined the whole movie mate
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>>675597075
Pre prequel before pokemon the movie
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>>675605678
While I'll agree that their is no definitive proof of my hypothesis, I will also point out that there is also no proof to prove any hypothesis about time that you can produce.

>faggot
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>>675605756
shit, i forgot about that
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>>675600257
>>675603287
^Read
>>675605674

Actually no, you said the booster rocket stage is a very efficient method for space travel, while I said it is not.

Just because it is the best technology currently available doesn't mean it is "efficient" by any means.
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>>675590428

There is a huge lack of really good films set in space. There are some, such as Sunshine, 2001, to name a couple, but as a whole a lot are just shitty b films. So I really appreciate this film, I really do. I liked the acting, the graphics and special fx were phenomenal. I think the plot should not have the love transcending time/space bullshit but I've watched the movie a couple times and will probably watch it again someday.
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>>675606054
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time

get educated retard
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>>675605756
>What is inertia

Clooney actually had built up some inertia forcing him away from the lifeboat. While things such as weight don't matter in a vacuum, the laws of physics still apply.

Without things such as air resistance, in a vacuum he would have floated onward in that direction for all eternity. What he described as weight was actually just the force of his body being pulled away by energy he had built up.
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>>675606690
you're forgetting the movie fam, he's attached to a rope and it snags him back (no more inertia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aPMjta3Zmk
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>>675606675
>Links to a wiki page of which he has no real understanding of
>Doesn't even try to explain complex quantum physics which back up his claims

>pro tip
>you have to actually understand the sources you cite to use them as a source
But try harder please, my sides are entering geosynchronous orbit.
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>>675596245
>Too stupid to understand
>How he didn't die passing through a singularity, which would rip any vessel or being apart
>How he could travel about the 4th dimensional construct at will, and breathe
>Why it pointed to his daughters bedroom specifically, how it was set up in this manner, what was generating it, how it was conceived, why there were no shots of her bating
It literally was a movie about nothing. If you think you "got it", it's because you're stupid and don't realize what's missing, and you probably thought Inception was great and made sense too.

>hurr durr my dream is dreaming that its dreaming with no physical brain to cause a dream state, it's just imagining all the working parts and neuron connections and chemical impulses
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>>675606931
Yes, but you see at exactly 0:25 the inertia that Clooney had built up was transferred directly to Bullock. Which in turn ensnared them both, although most of the built up inertia was transferred back to Clooney once the rope became taught.
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>>675607220
It's not a documentary dickhead
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>>675607220
now that you mention it, that inception shit was pretty fucking retarded.... you can't dream you're a simulation of a brain
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ITT: We challenge each others understanding of advanced physics and quantum mechanics even though none of us really have any fucking clue what we're talking about.
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>>675607333
It doesn't have to be for what we're discussing, which is that "if you don't like it then you were too dumb to get it".

I proved there was nothing to get, it's literally 100% fiction. So you're dumb for believing anything about it. It's literally not even based in theory, it's a plot device. If you're not too dumb to know what that is....
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>>675606242
Jesus, shall I green text for you?
>actually jettisoning away empty fuel tanks is extremely efficient, fuel-wise. The tecnique is wasteful due the jettisoned tanks themselves, wich we have to replace every time.

As I hope you can see here, I'm arguing that the practice of jettisoning spent part of the rocket is fuel-efficient. That's because the rocket does not have to lift parts that have become useless. No fuel is "wasted", it is in fact used the best we can with current tecnology. You, on the other hand, said:
>The amount of fuel that is wasted entering the atmosphere is almost unbelievable and laughable.

Sure, in the future we'll probably invent a better way of doing things. Different fuels, maybe, or entirely different engine systems, but the actual present-day fuel is used in the most efficient way it can be used.
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>>675607220
>>How he didn't die passing through a singularity, which would rip any vessel or being apart

To be fair, nobody has any idea what would happen to a person if they were to get as far over the event horizon to see the singularity. All the known laws of physics disintegrate once you are past the event horizon.
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>>675607355
>analyzing the plausibility of fantasy
>mlady
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>>675607006
actually this part:
>Doesn't even try to explain complex quantum physics which back up his claims
applies to you as well, bud
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>>675590902
It's a superhero movie. Not exactly watching it for the complex story. Who cares lol
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>>675592090
Grammar mistake, philistine.
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>>675590802
>space love is ultradementional and saves the cornfields from logical paradoxes
the movie
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>>675607546
Basically you are pointing out that what you said had literally nothing to do with the point I made in the first place.

And I beg to differ that the current fuel we use for rocket propulsion is being used in the most efficient manner.
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>>675590961
>batman
>superman
>superheroes
kids movies ,
enjoy butthurt from spoiler, anon
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>>675591699
not everyone here is english you shit monger
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>>675591587
tits or GTFO bitch
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>>675607697
Well you see friendo, I actually admitted that I did not have any sources or the adequate knowledge to back up my claims here >>675606054

However, you on the other hand claimed you did here >>675606675 but you failed to realize that you are actually just to stupid to understand anything that is on that page.

>Run along now
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>>675592486

That was before he knew what was going on.
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>>675590802
"The Martian" was better.
Modern Robinson Crusoe novel in space
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>>675590428
over rated garbage
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>>675592869
One nice effect when they enter the hole though. When the spaceship slides along the surface...apart from that utter shit for muricans
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>>675590428
Saw it in theaters, and was literally one of the best cinematic experiences of my life. The soundtrack still gives me goosebumps
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>>675593294
zootopia is like the godfather in comparison to interstellar
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>>675590428
I wish I had the massive soundsystem from a cinema when rewatching the movie.. never forget the vibrations the feel!!
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I love anything Nolan puts out, something about his style just appeals to me. Interstellar was a solid film.

I also am partial to it because it was what I saw with my wife when we went on one of our early dates. Kissed her for the first time that evening. Shit was so cash.
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>>675608688
fucking this!!!!!!


When they take off there was so much base, holyshit
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>>675590428
Also when they're leaving earth, their spaceship is made out of concrete. How retarded is that?
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>>675590428
fuck space!
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You're fucking lying if this scene didn't gut punch you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoLkabPK3YU
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>>675607954
I pointed out that the fuel we have is used efficiently. You started a shitstom about the possible future existence of better, alternative propulsion methods when I never denied that possibility.

You can beg to differ on fuel efficiency all you want, but while I elaborated on my opinions:
>the practice of jettisoning spent part of the rocket is fuel-efficient. That's because the rocket does not have to lift parts that have become useless. No fuel is "wasted", it is in fact used the best we can with current tecnology.
you did not.
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>>675590902
Topkek
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>>675608343
The Martian is shit.
Not even a survival movie when you're able to communicate with the whole fucking world when you want, and when you have food, water, and a shelter.
>Bad event/good event/joke/bad event/good event/joke/etc.
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>>675608173
not the same guy. I'm this guy:
>>675607697
>>675604181
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>>675608688
stick a giant dildo up your ass if you want vibrations, we're discussing the movie not the vibrating chair you sat on in some iMax
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>>675593664
>>675596427
>District 9
ewwww
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>>675590428
Honestly really liked it. People confused by the ending are just retarded.
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>>675609170
a slightly more realistic representation than the average invading alien shit from murica nad Hollywood
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>>675593374
Because robots can't love you retarded faggot
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>>675590902

It is based on a graphic novel from 1992 entitled The Death and Return of Superman. He is not dead.
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It was okay.
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>>675609285
maybe if the rolls reverse.

There's low probability that we wouldn't be an alien slaves if they came in contact with us.
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>>675609009
I cried like a fucking bitch
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>>675590428
same impression as Avatar from 2009

Big hype, epic movie, everyone knows the title but nobody really knows the plot. Just hyped bright colours from some years ago
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>>675590428
it got so stale at the end.
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>>675590902
good.. good!
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Tars was cool
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>>675607220
Wow you're dumb. Don't breed
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>>675608548
>tfw you didn't see in theatre, instead watched it on laptop display
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>>675607382
Do you?
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>>675608796
post her tits, faggot!
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>>675610018
why are mexicans so ugly?
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haven't seen it but I really liked inception, is it as good?
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>>675604659
I disagree on the "realistic" part. A retired Nasa pilot recognizes that a disturbance in the dust on the ground is communication by gravity and recognizes it as morse code, which he then translates into coordinates. Lotta other stuff happen that is pretty run of the mill for scifi, then he passes through an event horizon of a black hole. Completely ignoring that he'd be torn apart and added to the mass of the black hole. It's a nice watch, but it's one of the more unrealistic scifi movies.
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>>675611166
If you don't mind the use of "the power of love" as the driving force of a science fiction plot, go ahead.
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>>675593158
>>675594228
Fella anons Memento and Prestige are his best movies.
The rest is pretty mediocre
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>>675604028
You seem a little confused too. We use this much fuel to get a rocket into space because most of the fuel is actually burnt to carry said fuel. Actually little fuel is needed to carry the charge, but to carry the extra weight of fuel you need more fuel etc... It is a vicious circle
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>>675590428
I cried and masterbated
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>>675613875
Stating the obvious won't change the fact that currently this is the best we can do. The multi-stage rocket is the most efficient method we currently have
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>>675590902
I hope you son dies while you are embracing him
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>>675592268
Quite
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If I watched this 6 yrs ago, I'd say the same as you dudes.

Having a 5 yr old daughter of my own, some of this fluffy shit in the movie knocked me hard. Difficult to explain unless you have your own kids.

Damn fine movie in any case, have seen 3 times. Has holes, but that's what makes it fun.

I'd probably write off the ending too if I was childless.

>Also no pics of my daughter, even if you ask nicely.
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>>675591492
biggest one was the guy dying on the water planet.

why didnt he just get in first?

as for the chick stuck by herself.

whats stopping her from incubating one egg, raising it, getting pregnant, giving birth, and starting a new society?
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>>675613875
does that mean we would actually save money by using a lighter but more combustible fuel?
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>>675616576
probably, but finding a way to salvage the jettisoned parts is even better. Check this out:
http://www.spacex.com/news/2013/03/31/reusability-key-making-human-life-multi-planetary
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