>>598242906 I am OP and I am drunk, but I assure you I am not insane.
But fuck think what ever you want..
You had a chance to know what folks have wanted to understand for all of history.
I possess the "philosophers stone"..
I have been to a few Psychiatric professionals in my day. All of them have ended up religious which while that was never my goal it was the result of listening to me preach the truth. I destroy churches. I shake the foundations of false religions.
Not that I am any one special I am not.
I am just a man living life day by day in full possession of the truth.
A man who understands why Christ was not a man of joy but a man of sorrow.
Looking out upon my fellow man who are foolish arrogant ignorant and doomed.
I invited one asshole ion here to humble him and a whole fuck load of other folks stopped in.. I do not want to hurt folks that don't deserve to be hurt. So now I have to be really verbose and detailed and with hours and hours for the innocent ones to leave. Fuck I just wanted to go to bed or to an hero.
Instead now I have to await 404 and answer a fuck ton of questions.
>>598243677 What would YOU do with that information brother?
You can tell men they are the Angels made flesh.
You can tell them that no human man is the Anti-Christ and explain to them what the future will hod. Then they mock you and ignore you until the shit finally actually happens.
It is not like Noah was able to convince too many others the flood was about to happen.
It isn't like I can save your fucking soul.. All I can do is make you realize the shit that is soon to happen and possibly out you in a place where you can actually doom yourself eternally which few can do currently with out actually being downright mean and evil.
PS I know and understand the secrets of western christian faith. NOT EVERYTHING.
>>598244523 So you know that the big secret of christian faith, is that it's actually to keep the illiterate retarded masses that the medical complex has kept alive from killing each other while at the same time being figurative to what the truth is?
>>598244050 I believe, that god may be a being that doesn't inhabit the type of bodies we are, as in, a mass of stars interacting with eachother. He could quite literally be the universe, and we're like little parasites or things that move stuff around since we can't create or destroy anything. Think how our "physical" brains work, electrical signals communicating with one other in binary, It's not out of the question that god is all around us, and in fact every atom (which is actually a wave, doesn't exist in the sense we think it does) is interacting with one other in some way, all across the universe. A lot like a giant brain.
>>598244211 yeah, I know, it was an overwrought way of saying you don't have to force yourself, sorry if it backfired, tis tied up len bro from sh0 thread, came in to check on the situation, seems like things have escalated beyond what I can manage, well wishes anon.
>>598245194 Wells are deep. That was pretty common stuff.
It is not exactly true.
But since you are not being an asshole about it I will just leave it alone.
>>598245197 I don't even consider mys elf a messenger. More like a warning sign on the road.
I am here same as you. Only difference is that I deny myself most every thing except for the seeking of truth.
I do not succumb to my lust because I agree they are most horrible and unacceptable to most of mankind and I would guess to God as well. It is part of my seeking of truth to understand why one as fucking evil as me continues to live even though I would be far happier to die and burn in hell and be done with it all.
The biggest difference I can find between me and most others is that while I am very angry at God and do not like him or his plan I still try to understand it in an unbiased way.
I have great respect for the man who was called Christ but I am not totally convinced he was God incarnate.
I repeat I can not save your immortal soul.
I infact suspect that if I brought you around to my way of thinking I would actually imperil it more.
Buy a Strong's Concordance and A Bullinger's Companion Bible and study it from beginning to end on your own.
>>598246079 The stone has always been figurative, it was a way of attracting an apprentice and holding him in servitude. Most "experts" eventually realize that they are full of shit and the only thing they have of value is to allude to mystery and keep the young and ignorant in suspense.
>>598246442 Denying yourself most things in life seems to conflict with the notion of being a seeker of truth or unbiased.
You seem to have a lot of judgement focused towards yourself, yet are still trying to make yourself a better person. To me, that in itself is a redeeming feature.
Could I ask what it is you lust after that you feel is horrible or unacceptable? Is it this lust that makes you angry at God? Furthermore, what makes you feel this lust is not in God's plan
Again, I feel that you are a little conflicted. You are trying to act as a warning sign on the road (I will assume this is for some good intent) yet you feel your way of thinking is corrupt. Would you be looking for your own salvation through this service?
>>598246784 I've always had this idea of heaven as being a place where "souls" can procreate, wander, wonder, rejoice, and mourn. Do you believe that our souls can/are doing these very things right now? I kinda think so, just reading your post, it sort of makes sense.
Also: >I know you said running out of steam, but don't putter out on me >Am drunk as well >Haters gonna nig. Try not to read too far into it.
You seem like an interesting, thoughtful, and intelligent sort of Anon. Either way, hang in there, sport.
He wanted folks to seek out HIS teachings and not Paul's or Levi's.
He wanted us to be wise enough to dicern the truth of his words.
His highest teaching was an old one the Golden rule. It is summarized thus.
Love God with all your heart all your soul and all your mind. Treat all men as brothers do unto them as you would have them do unto you.
That was his teaching. I am afraid I have real issue with the first part of that, and tonight I am having some trouble even with the second part.
As I said I made this thread to take an asshole to task and instead some folks have entered asking real questions in earnest.
I am once again humbled because instead of having the satisfaction of taking that asshole to task I am force to swallow my anger and answer questions which is NOT at all what I wanted to do..
As to one death you have already accomplished that much you agreed to be born in to the flesh and here you are.
Follow that Golden Rule and I suspect you will find yourself as all men do at the end of your days some time soon and after that you will be in front of God who will hopefully say to you "Well done my good and faithful servant!"
Now seriously... Leave this thread. Please..
I really wanted to just deal with the one asshole from that other thread and do not want to harm anyone else.
>>598249234 I know, however not alcohol, nor faith is the solution. The universal idea of depression is that something is the matter, and you need to change it, but you don't know what it is. It could be your opinion on a particular subject, or how you feel about how things in the world are going. also see >>598248013 remember you are given free will, but ultimately everything is planned out. It's like a fish able to swim around in a bowl, but ultimately he's still in a bowl and the cat is gonna scoop him out eventually no matter what. There's no sense in being depressed, alcohol clouds your judgement and your eyes. even when you don't do it "all the time".
No it is not my lust that makes me angry at God. I have dealt with resisting that lust and the inherent loneliness for a half century while I am tired of it I still can continue to struggle as I have all along one day at a time.
What makes me angry at God is that he has placed all of us in the middle of his dispute with Lucifer. That he created a World in which life must eat life to survive. That he insist on dragging this existence out so far and allowing suffering (for how long now?) while still allowing evil to prosper even one moment longer.
I am not seeking my own salvation.
I believe in Christ that either is or is not enough as God will judge and eventually decide. It is not up to me.
Where I am conflicted is that I taught traditional religious dogma for many years whole studying until about 14 years ago. I inadvertantly convinced a lot of folks to join with organized religion before I understaood what a true trap it is.
While I try very very hard to love God and see his perspective. I am also angry that he does not just strike down every man of the cloth who is more interested in Profits then in Prophets. I am angry that he continues to allow these bullshit traditions to be taught from behind pulpits and that instead he reveals the truth to me and then does not even give me the tools needed to actually help ANYONE else. It angers me that I am not healed of my lusts but must continually explain them to others and deny them and repent of them over and over.
Yeah I really should just leave this thread and do this another day when I am sober.
>>598248612 >Do you believe that our souls can/are doing these very things right now?
Christ said My fathers Kingdom has "Many Mansions" I see the Universe as Gods Kingdom that will one day be populated by all of his creations. But that day is NOT today.. Sorry to be vague but I do not want to mislead folks into thinking I believe in Aliens or Extra terrestrials etc. I do think the Angels can procreate, (See Genesis 6:4)
>>598250407 Remember this life is a battle of good and evil, and the neutrals, you pick a side through your actions, the only true neutrals may be infants, but we can only assume. Remember lust is a part of human nature to perpetuate the species, we may be angels, but we're inhabiting the body of a simple mammal that knows niether good or evil. It's up to you to understand that. This life is about mastering this life. Learning how to control one's self is key, You have the ability to completely change everything down to your mindset and physical appearance through your decisions. It's all about Understanding and empathizing. Remember what may have happened to you as a child ( I was raped as a kid anon It's hard to not kill the prick, but I don't have any hard feelings because I empathize with him.) We were here during and before the dispute with lucifer, only not in this sense.
It is up to the individual to not be misled. Those who blindly follow will burn. It is unfortunate, but it's the nature of life.
>>598245820 O friend and companion of the night, thou who rejoicest in the baying of dogs and spilt blood, who wanderest in the midst of shades among the tombs, who longest for blood and bringest terror to mortals, Gorgo, Mormo, thousand-faced moon, look favourably on our sacrifices.
>>598250600 In addition, I do not say abandon faith, I do however believe it's not the answer to every problem, as faith is only the rough guideline to go about living. It is up to the individual to make the decisions that lead to self satisfaction.
>>598250407 Whilst I do not share the same lust, I can appreciate the frustrations and loneliness this would cause.
I do not feel the world survives on the consumption of live. While existence may be a solitary journey, it is this which builds character. I am quite content to live out my life without interfering or the interference of others.
Do not be so concerned with the introduction of others to organised religion. I went to an all boys catholic school and it served to build who I am today, but I have ultimately made my own mind of the morality of this life.
Do not appolpgise for your lust as it is as you were made. Be clear, this is not to say it is acceptable or to be acted on. But if it is not harming others through action then lust itself holds is beyond judgement.
And I've found that most people with schizophrenia aren't even remotely crazy. I'm a mechanical engineer. Taking the dabble of quantum physics that I know, hallucinations aren't even that far out there. You must just realize it's a lot like radio interference. I once read a tribe in some random ass mountain country regards anyone who can see and observe at such a level American doctors would sedate are regarded as healers. Schizophrenics are actually just those who are smart(i equate smart with observant) on a tier most can't fathom.
>And God said "Let there be light!" >A caveman, the result of billions of years of evolution, strikes two rocks together and starts a fire. His cave lights up and God stands before him, tall and mighty. >God looks down at him and says "Very good." >The caveman looks at God and says "We've been doing this for hundreds of years. You're kinda late. In fact, can I ask you a questi-..." >God interrupts him and says "Who even are you? How can you exist without a creator?!" >The caveman looks at God, nodding his head ever so slightly, and says "I was about to ask you the same thing."
>>598254040 >educated By the big pharma asswholes who fund your school, that is.
I bet you felt like you're done learning and studying when you graduated, didn't you. I bet you actually partied to signify "oh happy day I don't have to do learning anymore and I can go to work and make money!" Learning and studying is something that an educated person does, you aren't educated if you think you are.
Have dealt with modern psychiatry and did once experience hearing "voices".
I no longer suffer that malady.
I view voices in ones head as ai often explain to others as Holy Spirit, unholy spirit, and self... I use the example of old children's cartoons an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other. I believe we all hear them in our heads but are mostly unable to distinguish them from ourselves.
Psychology I believe calls them - Id, Ego, and Super Ego.
I treated my experience much as the fellow in your first link did. I argued with them and made them justify all their advise.. Eventually they apparently tired of my unwillingness to act or react and instead only to question them on their motives. I suppose pills would have been easier if not far more expensive.
>>598254757 I don't know anything, and neither does anyone.
The best we can is assume.
The idea that god is our universe or the universe is god is one of many. However I was relating to the abrahamic god idea that its a perfect, omnipotent and infinite being. There are other religions with similar omnipotent beings/things and conceptually it is the most complex idea we've imagined.
Our universe isn't, it's possible that the energy that make up our universe is infinite, however the amount of it isn't. That means that if the abrahamic god is real, it is greater than our universe alone.
Hi OP, I'm a guy who posted a few days ago in some ISIS thread about a shroom trip i had last weekend. the revelation i received was that humanity (specifically, me) had erred grievously in what i interpreted then as "writing the bible". this seems to be a figurative condemnation as i believe it referred not to the bible directly but to the motivation for writing it, which is an inane desire to attempt to describe God and His works. The arrogance of the deed, coupled with the damning knowledge that my identity agreed with this act, left me with a feeling of primeval shame as i neared the crevasse of guilt waiting for me in my mind. i shrunk away from that guilt, and was able to do so only by the grace of God. It felt as though there was an ongoing karma plan for me/others that, if paid in full at that moment, would kill my body and roast m soul like the surface of the sun. i believe the purpose of this revelation was to point out that God is eternal and the substance and nature of all things, that morality itself is the ultimate tool and cause of Satan and that those who condemn others are invariably condemning God itself. morality is a tool by which we polarize God, calling ever-increasing fractions of Him "evil" as we zealously attack those who disagree with our arrogant sense of right and wrong. repent now, /b/ros.
>>598255614 Well if the universe is everything, and everything you know is part of the universe and your made up of universe, would that not being omnipotent, omniscient and infinite, relative to us anyway?
>>598255444 OK you are right. I should not have gone there, but you know when folks continually ask and say stupid shit it is really hard not to stoop to their level. Look at my CCW comment in this post.. LOL
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