3 years ago I came to /b/ and made an "ask a guy who's getting married" thread in celebration of my marriage. I was marrying the woman of my dreams and life was going to be awesome.
Well /b/, this month my wife told me she wanted a divorce. This was after 3 months of a trial separation that our feminist cunt of a marriage counselor suggested, which my wife used to fuck her new boyfriend. In our house. Which I'm still making payments on yet no longer live in.
I worked a full time job for the past year while my wife worked 2 days a week. She contributed shit all to our household, but was constantly complaining to me about all the things I needed to do as soon as I got home from work tired and stressed out. Once a week she'd throw me a boring fuck, which I stopped looking forward to a long time ago since masturbation in the shower was better than she'd been. The marriage counseling started after she accused me of being neglectful, because I had started ignoring her relentless bitching and insults. But I went to counseling as a dutiful husband and got torn to shreds by the tag-team between the counselor and my wife, and I got replaced by her new fuck machine boyfriend in my own house.
And now I'm preparing to bend over for the divorce courts. She's already told me she wants the house. Which I paid for. While she fucked her boyfriend in it. Because of a trial separation. That she wanted.
Yes you warned me 3 years ago. No I didn't see it coming. That woman of my dreams? No fucking clue where she is. Maybe that bitch from counseling who calls herself my wife knows. Probably not. Oh well. Live and learn. At least we don't have kids.
>>596208050 This is bait. She can't get the house if there are no kids and no fault in the separation. You just split the assets earned since the marriage began and move on. In fact, as she is the one technically doing the infidelity, you can throw her out.
This is correct. She also already has an expensive lawyer and has changed the locks. My lawyer I consulted says by default the house is hers because she's living in it, and that things don't look good for me. Basically I'm fucked and having nightmares about her getting both the house and alimony.
Murder her OP, but make it look like she disappeared. No evidence, no crime. It's what you both deserve, by the sounds of it. There will be a lot of heat, but keep your cool and you win. Also, sorry to hear it all went to shit anon. The entire divorce/alimony/separation system in place is totally sexist, and has no outlook of changing sadly.
>>596208981 Again, why the alimony? You've been married three years - she has not had the time to become utterly reliant on you for her lifestyle. Take what money you have and hire a good lawyer. Whatever you do, empty your bank accounts and cut her off from joint ones
>>596208981 You won't have to pay alimony in a foreign country because the courts can't touch you,just fucking get out,its the whole point of starting over,she and the courts will bend you over for years and you will start over anyway, so just go
>>596208981 you will not pay the alimony you have no kids you don`t play in defence, play in fucking attack, she fucked with another guy in your house, this is fucking argument you don`t have to lose shit.
>>596208050 That sucks OP. I've been there. My marriage was 11 years though. If there is one thing positive you can take from it, you only spent 3 years married and not a good portion of your life. I know it doesn't make the shit hurt less but its true.
>>596209102 okay look, my dad lost 100 000 euros when i was a child because of that sort of lawyers, so I had a fucked up childhood. So listen to me, you get that fucking lawyer, you chop his right hand off and get it with you.
No. It's a common law thing. Because I was the one who moved during the separation, her residency gives my wife the most claim to the house.
Of course the counselor didn't inform me of this when it was suggested that I be the one to move into a motel to "give our marriage time". I thought I was doing the right thing, but legally speaking I lost a great deal of claim on the house. A part of me wonders if my wife was planning it that way.
>>596208050 You know what to do 1. Follow the example of your posted image, make a meth lab, become a drug kingpin and intimidate that unfaithfull whore 2. Or go on the classic murder rampage, with first murdering her fucktoy, then her and if you got time kill, that marriage counseler
I hope not but every lawyer I've consulted for free advice says it doesn't look good for me. I'm hoping for some way out of alimony, because that would ruin me to be paying for her to live in my house with her boyfriend while I continue having to work long hours.
There clearly needs to be some changes when it comes to seperation and divorce. It seems like women wants equal rights and what not, so how are they always getting payment from their divorced man, and also nearly always gets to keep the house. Thats not equal, thats clearly women being treated like lesser people, that needs help to survive on their own
>>596209606 She can claim the house, but she must pay you for your half, she cannot just take it. This is why in most divorces the house is sold and the profit from the sale split. Do you have a mortgage?
>>596208050 women are more trouble than they are worth. i descend from a long line of men who are extremely shitty at choosing good wives and you are far from alone, /b/ro. since you didnt have kids with her, the courts will go easier on you, but you'll still have to go close to 50/50 with the bitch, id reckon
>>596208050 Wah wah wah! Life's not fair, the big bad feminists are ruining my fun of being an over privileged white male! Males in previous generations were allowed to be womanisers, wife beaters and neglectful. Why don't I? Who will save us poor white men from those big bad mean women who are making us treat them like humans all of a sudden!
Stop blaming your wife for your shot comings as a husband OP. You get what you put in.
>>596208050 You just learned a very good lesson. Never trust a fucking bitch. Never. Not even your soul mate. If for whatever stupid reason you still want to marry a whore make sure she signs a prenup instead of commiting financial suicide.
Thanks for reporting the fails you experienced so others can learn from your mistakes.
>>596210510 let me refresh that. YOU ARE ALL VICTIMS OF YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES AND WILL FOREVER BE SO. There is no such thing as "a fucking bitch that will ultimately cheat on you and fuck you over". There is you being a bitch not telling your girl how you want things and make her feel like she needs you in her life.
Continue living your pathetic lives blaming everyone else.
Everything in life is strategy and marrying a woman is a bad strategy 90% of the time (it's good for lesbian couples to get custody rights of the child you raise).
Moving out of a house you paid for is stupid.
You don't recover from where you are by playing fair. If I were you I'd pretend to agree with whatever she says as long as it isn't traceable. Get yourself to live in that house. Tell her you want to say goodbye to the house for sentimental reasons and sleep in it for a week to say goodbye and then she'll get it. Make sure nobody else is present. Tell everyone that you are both trying to make up. Once you live in the house again, assert your rights. When anyone questions you be willing to lie glasshard.
You don't recover from a losing position by playing straight.
>>596210735 I don't know what kind of fantasy world that you live in, but the days of man telling his women to step the fuck in line are over. You basically have to be a master tactician to deal with women these days and their passive aggressive roundabout bullshit.
>>596210221 >previous generations. Your mentality is wrong, and what is wrong with the human race. Try being a sociopath like me, you get great perspective. >inbe4 newfag not detecting bait, but my jimmies have been russled by this!
If there's no chance to keep the house start a fire near some electrical equipment leave come back 10 min later to "pick up some of your stuff" call fire department freak out on phone collect insurance money put it all into paying off house so she can take it and live with relives for few days till you can find an apartment If there are there any hole in this plan pls point out and fix
Left her with nothing? PAY UP. It was both of your investments, retirements, and salary. NOT JUST YOURS.
Have kids? Pay up. YOUR DNA YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
Have a house? Well lets be honest what kind of a man tries to kick his ex wife out of her home? That's sick. So yes, PAY UP AND MOVE ON. If you could afford one house don't act like you can't afford another. YOU WANTED OUT SO DONT ACT LIKE YOU NEED THE HOUSE
Remember you chauvinist pigs, she PLANNED her life around HER HALF and that half BELONGS TO HER. You aren't paying her out of your pocket. You are just giving her what SHE ALREADY OWNS. If you try to fight that then you really are just trying to steal from her.
My ASS of an ex husband tried to take MY HOUSE from me. He made 300k a year and tried to weasel out of paying me MY HALF of OUR life together. Good thing the courts understand this. They made him pay for my lawyer and I took him for any penny I could because he's the one who treated me like I deserved nothing to begin with. Maybe THATS why you hear of this happening, because bad husbands try to cheat their wives out of their half, so the wives bite back. Tough titties! PAY UP AND MOVE ON.
>she fucked a guy in your house >she lives in your house >she had the marriage counsellor on her side >she initiated the divorce
You've already lost so many battles, the only way you can win the war is by either getting the best lawyer in the state and bend over backwards to pay him, or indeed prepare to bend over backwards for her.
Also, you're a retard for putting up with her shit and at the same time being a passive little bitch. The moment she started bitching about the household you should have asserted yourself and told her she has more free time and it is logical she does more house work. The moment sex started to go to shit you should have tried more or have talked to her, instead of fapping in the shower like a little bitch.
Ultimately, going to a marriage counsellor that SHE suggested was basically you waving a white flag. She had your balls already, now she could play with them while you watched.
OP, please consider that you're a little bitch. You might be right in the assumption that your wife is a major bitch, but you're the passive, 'lay it on me, but I'll bitch about it afterwards' type of bitch.
>>596211394 Too obvious. You need texts and email conversations. Hard evidence. And you need to do it before she catches on and deletes the lot. Get a good PI, or maybe there's a wizzard here who could help.
>>596208050 Been there bro. Same thing; dream girl, married, bought house, and she dumps my ass for a cocky dude who lives in his sisters basement. She got the house, no kids. I put some possessions in a van and drove to Cali, growing a huge obnoxious fu man chu moustache, smoked weed, got a good job and lives an easy life of pleasure. After 2 years came back and rebuilt my shit better than ever.good luck OP
>>596210898 I'm not trying to look alpha. I've been in serval long relationships with great women. None of which fucked me over. Maybe I was lucky. But I do know one thing; people who go to /b/ to whine - and people who consider any girl his "dream girl" and naively think of her as the answer to all of his problem has a natural tendency to be a pathetic fuck letting other people control the outcome of is life.
A lot of you might not even know. And you prolly never will.
>>596211920 I don't think she does. She told the counselor she wants it to work. We both did. She's making reasonable improvements but ultimately the intimacy is still missing so that always feels like a punch in the gut to me being a guy and all.
I feel like she's distracting herself with so many things to avoid being intimate with me. But, thats what happens when you have a toddler.
I picked the marriage counselor so I don't think shes a vapid feminist, she's actually married too.
Although I didnt like when I was trying to talk about my wife's obsession with social media/fitbit it turned into a fitness talk.
I think our main issue is my wife never fully let go of her mom and accepted us as a we yet.
She's always quick to run to her mom when we have issues.
>>596208725 Depends on the state. No fault (like my divorce in MD after 23 years) states everyone gets half. Then they use a 12 variable formula to calculate alimony. My cunt stayed home and raised the kids and never worked. So I get to pay her 2500 a month alimony for 5 years so she can 'get back on her feet'. My reward for making 190k a year and her not having to work. And her fucking a mutual friend. Now in NC you cheat all you get is the road. I have that story too, best friend tossed his wife out she got shit. All depends.
Contact a divorce lawyer. Ask him about what I'm about to mention to you.
There was a guy at my work who wanted a divorce. Yet, when I asked him why he doesn't just file for one, he said he doesn't want to lose his house to her. He told me that if he can get her to cheat on him, she forfeits the property.
Ask a male divorce lawyer if this is a real law. If so, boom. You keep your home.
Otherwise, if you paid for it 100% and can prove it, fucking short-sell it and throw the bitch to the curb.
Otherwise otherwise, since it's still legally your house, you can legally "renovate" it as needed. Rip out all the cabinets, floors, walls, doors... leave it an empty shell. Hey man, you were stressed and things were annoying you. Then you fell hard with the divorce and just never got around to the repairs.
I once knew a guy who's wife was getting his car in the divorce. His solution? He got a cutting torch and a grinder and hacked it to pieces. She got the car. All $0 value of it.
It's your property. Nothing says she has to get it in pristine exact quality. Only that she gets it.
>>596212319 >She probably figures if that happens that I can't collect money from her since I am the lower earning spouse
not necessarily true. you two have a kid. she wins custody, wins the house, suddenly the tables flip and you may have to pay both alimony and child support with limited custody. reason being her costs become artificially higher and every bit can be exaggerated for worst case scenario. your income looks disposable to the courts while hers looks necessary.
>>596208903 BS. Even in no fault states it's adultery. Interestingly enough in MD oral does not count. Cheating is cock in box period. Neither does homosex. Law says dick in vag. Period. I find that hysterical.
Walk into house, bf is fucking her, you kill him saying you thought it was a rapist and was defending your wife, traumatized by killing another human, you are a victim, she has to admit in court she was cheating in order to convict you of murder, but then losses claim to your shit, dilemma for her. Sorry on phone no green text
We told you then and we'll tell you now, don't fucking trust women. They're like unrully selfish children who never got smacked growing up and have no boundaries or self control. They're endlessly self-absorbed, and like dogs chasing cars will never be happy or fulfilled, leaving a trail of wreckage in their wake. Be thankful it was only three miserable years and not a lifetime. You won't owe her that much shit and here are no kids to fuck your shit up. Turn and burn friend. Ditch her, cut your losses and run.
Another thing you can do is claim mental, emotional, and verbal abuse.
Seriously, get this... Shut up and listen.
Ask for your sessions to be recorded. They may keep their guard up for a bit, but they will gang up on you on camera. Record all the nasty gritty shit. And keep it. Keep it safe. Get a fucking lockbox in the bank if you need to, but keep that shit on record. Fuck it, Cloud that shit if you must.
Then, tell your wife but not the counselor (off camera) you are willing to compromise if she can meet you halfway. You want a second opinion. This time, you choose the DC.
Choose a male. Go to a few sessions, and see how she treats you. After a few, send him the videos.
Let him see how they both gang up on you. Let a second mind step into the mix. Get his opinions.
Then contact a lawyer with Mr. DC's statements and the video documentation.
This is why I love being sterile, I fuck around with a few girlfriends but if any of the try to bait me into marriage through being pregnant I can just drop that bomb on them. Never going to get married and I'm happy for it.
OP here's what you do: >Go over there >put on some spiel about how you're sure you two can talk about this like rational adults >don't lose your cool, just say whatever BS you need to say, to keep the conversation going for a bit so the next part doesn't seem suspicious >ask if you can borrow her phone to make an important job related call , make up some excuse for why you can't use yours, I don't know the plugs at the motel are shit at charging and yours has already ran out of battery, some shit like that >if she hands it over, excuse yourself to make the call, and go into another room >and here's when you start searching through her phone for texts, emails, FB messages, whatever social media accounts she's logged into, and start looking for incriminating shit >anything that might prove she's been looking to pull this shit for a while, or that proves extended infidelity >screencap it, email it to yourself, delete any proof you did shit from her phone
>>596208050 I don't know the law where you live, but the fact that there are no kids is really good for you.
Everything will be divided, including the home, the equity will also. If she wants to keep it she will have to get a loan to buy your half, if there is no equity and you are upside down on the original loan then let her have it.
Get your OWN lawyer, don't use one that she gets, because they will be working for her.
>>596208050 This pasta has been posted at least 5 times within the last 24 hours. but on the off chance this is legit, ruin her.
surely if you were married for that period of time you would have knowledge of her SSN, credit card numbers, ect. spread that shit like herpies after everything is through. Find your town's local scum and find some way to subtly have them overhear her normal schedules so they could possibly break into the house and rob her of everything, possibly kill her if they run into her in the process. Get your town's local skanks to go after her new boyfriend so he gets some STDs. Make her life so terrible she an heroes
This insect tried to take away everything you hold dear in this world, it took your life away from you, its only fair that you do the same in return.
>>596215695 seriously? you realise they still do this today with cars. if its not registered and left on the road/street long enough, its considered abandoned, and if you dont move it in a certian time, its taken and, whatevered they want.
so if your minivan, a home in a car is stationaty, its not okay, but if it moves, it IS okay?
>>596215984 no, you see, thats not how it works. you need to have paid taxes, showed you lived in it, something. its "my house" isnt good enough. if it WAS, then why cant some indian just walk into your home and be like "my grandparents dwelled here once upon a time". if you leave, die, or abandon shit, its no longer yours, amigo
>go to house when bitch isn't there >kick door open or find another way in >change the locks >toss all of their shit out >put all of your shit in >make sure you have the deed >say you live there now > get money >fuck bitches
>>596216100 They are married, living in the same house that I would bet my entire steam library he has documentation of paying fees towards. If it's under your logic that he doesn't own the house simply because he hasn't inhabit it for a week or so, then why the fuck would she be fighting for it?
>>596216470 the topic mentioned squatters, in which case i was assuming not literally the case we were talking about now. Nor am i saying i agree with these rules or think they make sense, just that thats how shit goes, yo
>>596216617 actually, in certian circumstances, you sorta, can. of course, its very limited and it usually takes "live somewhere for a year while the other owner has completely abandoned it, no paper trail, anything". but, yeah dude. it sorta, can.
Now you guys are really reaching in your anti feminist crusades. Just fuck a bitch and relax.
99% of people are shit. Female, male. Get used to it and get better at judging people. Would help if kids this days weren't trying to get serious of married after only knowing them a year and never discussing actual adult concepts beforehand.
>>596208050 Marriage isn't supposed to be easy or fun. It's there so people don't waste time competing for mates and get shit done. It's a legal contract that the government and church officially support, to make people stay together even when they can't trust each other. You make the best of what you've got. This only works if there is no possibility of divorce and if one of the two is submissive. This is why a man should be allowed to hit his woman. At least, if you want to have marriage in society.
It's perfectly rational for a woman to exhaust the man financially if she can get away with it. And while the marriage lasts, if he can't hit her, she can just keep nagging until she gets what she wants, every time. Because women are (for some reason) not capable of honor, she will do it whenever it's the better option.
>>596217033 no really. a quick google check might rock your world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting the reason you havent heard this is because no ones stupid enough, generally, to allow such a long enough term to pass. but shit is real, nigga
>>596208050 in what country is it possible for a cheating bitch ass wife to steal your house legally, especially when she didn't pay shit for it? nigga what the fuck are you on about, you're not going to lose shit if you know what you're doing.
>>596217854 well, unless you sign a pre-nup, part of the agreement in marriage is to share half of everything. of course, when your for sure to work out marriage fails and your divorcing wife points out the "half" suddenly your being ROBBED! by being liable to what you agreed, how horrible.
So yeah, when you agree to sign half of your shit away, half of your shit, gets taken away. Does it make sense people sign this contract? No. Does it happen? well, heres a thread of people soon to be yellin about how they shouldnt be held responsible to what they agreed to....
>>596211435 Shitty bait I remember once my wife demanded half of everything from me, while I had a laaaaaarge debt I got while I was with her which I was keeping secret from her. Right at the end of the court hearing I stated it, and ended up giving her just under half of my debt. Now, she's homeless (cause she couldn't find a job and shit went down) while I've paid off my half and living comfortably. Women want half of what you want, aslong as it's good for them. Fucking double-standardising cunts.
>>596218173 She definitely was at least partially at fault but her new husband was more to blame I think. He used her fear of being alone to guilt her in to giving her money (half my inheritance) away for a shoddy business that im sure he wouldn't share in profits with.
The hard part for me is yes, my mom did wrong but she's practically living on the street now. Shes still my mom after all. Its hard to go to family gatherings on either side now. How do I tell my dad that she's in fucking awful shape and to call off the dogs and leave her alone without pissing her off for admitting weakness? Hes rightfully pissed and I get it, but hes got a private eye going thru her trash and shit. Shes scared and alone.
And people wonder why im 26 and have a 'fuck marriage' attitude.
>>596218478 oh man land laws are crazy. they still use systems from like 600 years ago and shit to determine crap and all sorts of old archaic laws, all around the world. dont ever bother trying to make sense of it all
>>596218893 >have one high school friend whose married to his high school girlfriend, against all odds, successful marriage, stable as fuck >the other five high school friends, have kids but separated, divorced, currently suing each other, in vendettas
jesus fuck. had i known what sort of nightmare relationships would turn out to be for most people, i wouldnt of even tried my pathetic dating shit in highschool. what a bullet to dodge
Check you`re state laws anon. My wife and i agreed on a divorce. I told her to find us a lawyer and set something. I paid him in advance to just do all the legal paperwork. reconcile divorce kinda thing. He showed up representing her. He said because she was the one that called. Long story short i hired my own lawyer and nailed her to the poor house. There are lawyers who specialize in representing the man. Seriously anon find a group in you're area that can point you in the right direction. Good luck
>>596219706 Worked at 17, made 20k. Construction jobs. Spiral into depression for a year and half cause of parents splitting up and amongst other shit but that was the icing on the cake.
20, pick my self up, try to return to study. Dropped out. Back to work, still working till present. Saved up 20k now. Want to help my mother buy a house. Paying rent to help my mom and my little brothers and sisters.
>>596208050 Real fucking simple. Break open your door with crowbar. Throw her shit on the lawn when she leaves for work. Find paperwork present to police that house is yours and you just threw her the fuck out. Move to another country after you have fucked her over to not even have to deal with even one more ounce of her shit. Never ever EVER put up with a whores shit.
>>596213824 You either had an amazing roommate or a shitty marriage.
It's true that the physical thing ends eventually to a degree (actually it depends, I know that some (in their 50s) couples still getting it on) but there is also the portion where you are together as family members, a true union. Not just a roommate.
Honestly I don't really know how it is in usa, in secular families, but that is how I grew up (in my community family is the most important thing and while you have divorces it is truly a last resort, all efforts are invested into maintaining the family unit).
1 - I think you should probably look at the parts that are your fault. such as: putting her on a pedestal to begin with. expecting her to not get tired of your pathetic fumbling having poor taste in women
Now that that is over and you have learned you lesson about how to choose a woman:
2 - Sell your house now. Spend the money. Actually, just sell the house. if you've only been married 3 years and bought the house after you married, you have virtually no equity in it anyhow. After you sell it, and pay the realtor fees, you might have a few thousand dollars left.
Use that money to hire a good attorney.
Please remember that this is not about "women" but about the shitty "woman" you chose.
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