>>595052358 You do not see where we're coming from at all. I, at least, like the innocence. I like 13 and 14 year old girla discovering what a dick is and how to suck it. I like watching their faces as they discover what a genuine thrill their sexuality is. Dont get me wrong i also like grown women, much like op posted, but them salty milk videos will forever be engrained into my brain (and usb disk)
>>595052791 It's believed that some people (both men and women) achieve these feelings due to a previous history of sexual abuse at the hands of a familiar aggressor, someone whom they have always tried to obtain approval from but never fully achieved due to their loss of innocence which they see in their future victims. A sort of "You have what was taken from me, I want it back" sort of mentality which drives the individual to social awkwardness and complete insecurity. Some have even thought they were protecting their victims from losing their innocence to some preconceived future person whom the child would be expected to encounter many, many years later giving the individual the complex of righteous martyr.
>>595051825 Pretty sure it's because they didn't get the kind of sexual experience they desired as a child so they're trying to live in the past
Like when you're 12 and you desperately want to see a woman's breasts... The "cool" kids give away mardi gras beads and underdeveloped little girls flash them in the bathroom. The "nerds", "losers", etc are probably reported to the principal if they even try to give a girl beads. The closest they get to a first kiss is when the PE teacher gives them mouth to mouth after they pass out trying to do a pull-up
So they spend the next 15 years of their life wishing they had seen the 12 year olds naked back when they were 12. Then, finally grown up and having developed a tiny bit of confidence and knowledge, they realized how to trick girls into getting naked for them. So they apply this confidence and knowledge to "fix" their past -- heading back to the earliest age at which their sexual desires were unfulfilled
I like it because I'm turned on by forbidden stuff. The more wrong something is, the easier it is to turn me on. I still feel guilt though. And kids don't turn me on. Teenagers do. Women don't turn sexy the day the turn 18.
>>595054649 >"cool" kids give away mardi gras beads and underdeveloped little girls flash them in the bathroom > "nerds", "losers", etc are probably reported to the principal if they even try to give a girl beads I'm curious what you think is behind this apparent double standard.
And you are? At least the koala coexists with its environment, and doesn't seek to destroy it. See, I'm all about post pubescence, because it's generally when a male, or female is at their most fertile. But prepubescence makes no sense because the body is not physically developed enough for intercourse
>>595055757 I think it's a combination of factors. The biggest of which is a self-fulfilling prophecy fallacy.
Women's minds are fairly simple. They want one thing: Whatever the best thing is. They spent their whole life simultaneously seeking this and trying to figure out what it is. If a guy is seen as desirable by other women this confirmation bias leads more women to want him. If, by any stroke of luck, a man lands becomes desirable to women, then he will likely remain thus. Once a woman wants a man she'll do whatever it takes to get him, especially to get him to the exclusion of others. If he tells her that getting naked will secure her claim on him, she'll do it without a second thought.
There's also a certain level of social skill and nuance to take into account. Knowing how to say something, intonation, body language, etc. People don't often study this, but learn it through experimentation as they attempt to interact with others. If people are not permitted to interact with others by their own force, force of overprotective parents, expulsion from group inclusion due to physical quirks, or any other reason, then they get no practice and don't learn these skills.
It's incorrect to assign a large risk factor to those who were sexually abused as children. This is a myth made popular by cop dramas and hollywood. Prior abuse IS a small risk factor, true, but it's a risk factor for all manner of criminal behavior later in life, and there are more than a dozen other risk factors for pedophilia, including lower IQ and having a younger sister.
As for hebephilia and ephebophilia - the risk factor is literally just being a mammal. There are no mammals that don't attempt to procreate with females as soon as they are physically capable of producing children. In our history, the average age of marriage is only over 20 because the average (serf class) male had to acquire a dowry. The upper class in our history almost always married 11-14 year old women.
All that being said, I'm not a pedophile or even a hebephile. And yes, there ARE physical and psychological markers (retardations and damages) that cause pedophilia.
However, pedophilia and hebephilia are not child molestation. Child molesters deserve everything they get in prison - but it's important to draw a distinction between thoughts and actions.
And ephebophila... well that doesn't even make sense to me as a "condition", honestly. I prefer milfs (and sometimes gmilfs) myself, but supposedly anyone who looks at teen porn with 18 and 19 year olds suffers from a condition.
men are naturally attracted to young, feminine females.
the pedo fetish is an exaggeration of this natural attraction. why, how does it happen? multiple theories out there, from childhood abuses to self-confidence issues.
my personal intuition is that pedos are attracted to children because they are a non-threatening version of what they ultimately desire. so it happens in a sort of "transfer" effect. most pedos are loners with crippling insecurities. young children are sexual objects they can dominate and protect while allowing them to fulfill a "manly" role.
Flat, immature, emotionally vapid and codependent, bodies which are physically too small to take in a fully erect post pubescent penis, and minds that do not/cannot fully grasp the act of intercourse. Sounds wonderful, yeah?
In both cases we're dealing with a mental age much older than the body's age.
In this sense, it's the same as charging a juvenile as an adult in court for grievous offenses.
In Milwaukee, two 12 year olds were charged as adults for murder recently. It was determined that they were fully aware of what they were doing and made their decision in an adult capacity.
If that can be legally held true on a case by case basis, it should be able to be true universally.
The big problem with this is that the older partner would be the one making this decision, and their decision is utterly biased by how bad they want the decision to come down in their favor.
However, if an unrelated and unbiased party can make the determination that a 12 year old is really an adult for decision-making purposes, how can they defend that that process only applies to committing crime and not to all things?
But, there is no "sexual adulthood" judge panel, and the way modern people mature, the number of psychologically and emotionally mature 11-15 year olds is practically 0.
I'd rather juveniles were never charged as adults than open the "adult decision making" debate for sexual conduct with people of that age.
My previous argument that 11-14 year old brides were common just a few hundred years ago - we also have to keep in mind the vastly superior emotional maturity they possessed.
In today's world, hebephila might make sense when the attracted party is that age, but as soon as they mature past it they should be able to determine just how childish people that age are, and the attraction should diminish to nothing if they think about the damage that could be done to an early teen. It may not be a disorder if they can't come to this conclusion, but it is certainly a sign of retarded brain activity.
We're all hardwired to be attracted to "youth". The issue is degree. Various chemical imbalances and deficiencies, like OCD, can make a mind push unnecessary limits and subsequently become compulsory with the behavior. Being sexually attracted to people who cannot reproduce is not normal. There's nothing serving human preservation or procreation about it. It serves no purpose. It's purely masturbatory. That said, it isn't "wrong". What IS wrong is victimizing another, manipulating their behavior to suit your own gratification. Further complications are caused when you make the person believe you're doing it for their gratification, which really you aren't. It's all in your head. People victimize adults, too. Some people, even of age of consent, aren't really capable of making healthy decisions and/or are easily manipulable. The issue of consent laws at least give young people a modicum of opportunity to grow to a point they might be reasonably expected to make their correct decisions.
TL;DR : If you have feelings, it's ok, but let the kids be kids and just jack off in your basement, without them present.
Acting on it or pursuing acquisition of child pornography would be horrible, and deserving of an eternity of daily anally-inserted pineapples.
Just being turned on isn't horrible, but it IS proof that something is wrong with you. Read the wiki on pedophilia and/or follow some of the sources. Perhaps just figuring out WHY you're a pedophile will help you.
If you do anything which seems like the beginning of planning to act - seek help immediately.
ITT: Hypocritical capitalists who believe they are morally superior to pedophiles because the children their lifestyle destroys live far away and don't have a voice. Your phones, your cars, your computers, and all your fucking knick knacks are made out of child slave labor and blood money from the military industrial complex. An hero.
>>595062048 or girls that respect themselves or just very religious girls i actually have a friend (very pretty,always puts herself down, but i think shes just fishing because she knows shes pretty) whos never had sex and plans on living her whole life without ever having sex simply because she doesnt want to. shes been in plenty of relationships, and all of them have been non sexual. she just respects herself unlike many girls these days.
>>595062195 >>595062555 >>595062786 Thanks. I've put alot of thought into it, having been exposed to the activity from a very young age and grown up to not be an abuser, even though I carry it all in my head.
>>595062750 that has nothing to do with anything i didnt say i dont understand the world, i said i dont understand why pedophiles would choose a child over a woman. but nevermind im just going sit back and read what everyone else says.
People who are still virgins, and beat off in their basements. People prefer CP because of the whole "Holy shit this is rare" more of a fantasy type of thing, most of which would never follow through with the acts. It's not that one would be attracted to the child, it is rather that the acts to be committed are so forbidden that accomplishing it is something else. I would much rather fuck a banging hot of age girl, than a vulnerable 7-10 year old. People who are into like younger than 5 yo are really fucked.
>>595063641 Trust me. If I right now at 29 had the chance to bang that girl again, I would in a heartbeat. Fucking her once she got past the initial first 2-3 times, was easily the best sex of my life. I'm now happily married with a baby, but don't get me wrong, I still fap to pics and vids of that girl from 7 years ago lol
>>595063951 to add to this, it's just a fetish, there are plenty of fetishes that are very normal, very bizzare, and very illegal. Committing sexual acts to someone underage is very illegal. So are plenty of the other disgusting things you basement dwellers are into. Just cause someone likes to beat off to a guy banging a 10 year old doesn't mean he goes out and does it.
>>595063951 Oh I wouldnt. Hence why I never gave her my real name, or real age, or my real number. I just happened to look 18 still when I was 22 and it got me in that girls pants for 4-5 months. Then I just up and left for work and never saw her again. Hope she's okay lol
>>595065496 Midgets are ugly - this was a 5'2" 105lb brunette cutie with an A cup chest and no peach fuzz - perfection for me.
It wasn't about the power. It was about, "hey let's try this position" or "hey make sure you swallow and don't spit" or "let's try anal" or "let me film us while I eat you out and you orgasm" those kinda things.
>>595054008 This is fucked up. Never should you date a little girl nor fuck one or been looked up to as a "bro" unless you are their brother. If you can't find the right girl who's not underage, thats a you problem not the fucking female population lol. Take care of yourselves you fucking idiots. If you want nice pussy, present yourself as a person who deserves it. Don't go around fantasizing about drawn out anime lolis and walk around in your One Piece shirts with your pale, genetically motified neckbeard face and get a fucking grip on reality. If you want to be successful with yourself and women, you have to apply yourself. Does that mean you're going to find the right or "Good" girl immediatley? No. Invest in some ralph lauren, a haircut, and some fucking exercise you pathetic fucks. I just turned 18 and i have gotten better pussy than most people see on television. Yes there are plenty of whores in this world who have been ran train on probably, but it's NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to find a straight 10/10 who hasn't been banged a couple times, that's just modern day society you fucking losers. I feel really sorry for you, especially if you're in college and you're still fantasizing about lollis, get ahold of yourself god damn go drink and get a hot girl drunk and they will fuck you and get satisfied with yourself. It's not very hard.
>>595066293 No one cares about your opinions or your previous posts. I've got a decade of experience and wisdom on you and you're just like me when I was 18 - using the Internet as a soapbox for me to rant anonymously on. Stfu kid
>>595066293 Plus if you're going to want to marry a hot bitch, you are going to rather not want to hear about what they've done in college, it's very very rare that you find one who has a innocent past, and those are the ones worth finding.
Stay motivated and keep your options open and please god quit beating off to little girls god damnit. get into some other fetish that will make you want a hot, of age girlfriend. Freaks
>>595066096 MFW i was a horny kid once and always wished i could have sex with adults but it didn't happen til i was 15. MFW i never had that same desire to get a fucking job in a sweat shop for pennies an hour to live out my life in the 3rd world scraping by. MFW not all sex with children is forced and there is a language war to try and define all of it as rape because double speak.
>>595066710 you're a beta and you were nothing like me when you were 18. If you were, you wouldn't even be on this website. I'm only here cause my friend asked if i checked up in a while and i haven't. This place is getting you nowhere.
If you want a girl who you think is out of your league, get off the internet and figure out how to get her.
>>595054649 What school did you go to where girls were slutty enough to get naked for beads? Oh and what awesome school let boys in the girls bathroom? >>595060965 I totally believe you don't remember losing your virginity.
>>595067106 It's called work life balance buddy. You don't need to prove to me or anyone else why you are here or aren't here. And yes it gets me nowhere, but I come here for the laughs and naked pictures.
If a girl is that wildly out of my dreams, then she's not worth it likely. I'm content with my successful and happy life thus far.
>>595067065 thats what im trying to say its not about the lust. its like in the anime Usagi Drop that probably can explain that better than me. english isnt my first language so holding arguments with someone can be really hard. especially with a native english speaker.
Jesus fuck, Seriously? you really think a 12 year olds consent fucking counts? Please for the love of your god, rethink your position. Stop trying to believe their consensus means anything, we live with laws not your fucking opinions. Why is it so hard for you to just say "hey ill just fuck 18 year olds"
>>595055625 I agree with you that the guy you're posting on is a pedo and should be killed (10 years old. really?), but you have to be retarded for making a comment like that. As was pointed out before, humans are animals you retard.
>>595067523 Very good my friend. I am glad to hear your are doing well. I would casually come to this site for the same reasons. I apologize for the beta insult, as i am assuming you aren't a keyboard warrior typing your desired life into the screen.
But don't say she's not worth it, because it definetly would be if you were the one she wanted face deep in her pussy. Just don't cancel any options out.
Just looked that up and it says ages 15-19. Even 15 is still not legal, and you had sex with a 14 yo girl. You're not proving your point and you're still a fucking pedophile in my eyes. You're retarded
I'm 21 but have the body of a 13 year old. If it is the looks you are attracted to, there are more like me out there. I have had some weird relationships(non intimate)that was based around the fact that I look young. I wouldn't say they were terrible fucked up people, they just had something unfulfilled in them. Like the guy itt that said they didn't get to play with them at that age, but desperately wanted to. The attraction never matured. Does this make sense
>>595067876 I've never harmed a child and i never fucking would. But still have the right to my beliefs and i think that if a 12 year old can build a nuclear reactor there's onviously a wide spectrum of intelligence and maturity that you are ignoring. Either you are uninformed or just too close minded to see the issue objectively. Plus this is all irrelevant because i was mainly talking about cp and the harsh punishments that go with it. I say cap and trade the existing content and keep the actual act of sex with kids illegal, at least for 20 years until people stop fighting over shit that is way less controversial than this.
>>595069005 >and you had sex with a 14 yo girl. You're not proving your point and you're still a fucking pedophile in my eyes. You're retarded
I'm not that same person. There aren't hardline rules there, 14, 15, the issue is primary attraction to "pubescent but not adult females". To wit, a person similarly afflicted might find himself attracted to females with boobs and bush at 10, I think that condition has a name, like precocious puberty.
What's certain is that "pedophile" means attraction to no hips, no boobs, androgenous form, not the way you were using it.
>>595069876 Using retarded as a verbal insult. At least call me something relevant, like a sick fuck or something along those lines. But you obviously know I'm not mentally handicapped given that I can type complete sentences.
sexuality is personal and is going to differ from pedophile to pedophile.
i mean, fuck. i'll never understand how people sexualize feet. they're the only part of your body encased in sweat boxes all day and they smell funky as hell. if that can be a thing how is anyone surprised that some people are attracted to children.
>>595070318 If you're not 14, you're the responsible adult in the situation and for the sake of that person's emotional growth and development you should say you're flattered, but you cannot do it. I wouldn't even hold it against you if you told her to "come back when she's 18", or 17 if that age of consent where you live.
>>595051825 >3D girls There's the problem, they aren't perfect, and 3D girls never shut the hell up. At least my 2D girls know exactly what I want and have the perfect personality. Look at this peace of perfection, qt as fuck, she has can control gravity and give me a handy at the same time. When 3D girls can control gravity come get me. Also loli isn't illegal, depending on where you are.
>>595052358 You're and idiot and you should be debrained. Why pedo's are pedos is simple.
Human sexuality more or less kicks off at the age of 12-13 years old, while most people will not necessarily to 12-13, 15-17 the body matures to the point of behind sexually appealing (pronounced breasts/cock) and procreation is easily viable. In other words, 15-17 doesnt make you a real pedo.
True pedos, those into 0-13/14, the reason they are pedos is for the same reason why people are straight, gay, bi, in to different kinks, etc. Brain wiring. There is no nefarious intent behind behind a pedophile (who I must as are only sexually attracted to children. Being a pedo doesn't mean you will rape with children just as much as being straight will not make you rape women). Pedophiles just got born with the shitstick of sexuality, nothing to fault them for it since most don't act on those impulses.
Also take note that pedophila is much more comment then you think. Pedophila used to be run of the mill in ancient societies to the point of behind socially acceptable (Muslims).
>>595070957 >My mind can only use that excuse so many times mate.
Well, people victimize other people in all manners of ways and legitimize it all just the same. I'm not going to advocate that on any level. Let the kids be kids. Find something to take your mind off of it.
>>595051825 for me I only get into loli if it's femdom or the loli is the one in charge. I'm not really into the whole love consent crap/ male on loli rape / or anything else, except occasional netorare
>>595071335 To be honest it depends on the girl I have met 10 year old girls that were like the adult side of that pic and I'm currently dating a 24 year old who matches the loli side and yes I am a pedo.
>>595071175 Don't need to be cool. Just want that tight pussy wrapped around my dick. And few people in real life know I fucked a girl 8 years younger than me. And trust me, unless you've had a recently devirgined pussy contracting around your dick as she orgasms causing you fucking blow your load instantly - don't knock it til you try it lol
>>595065363 >>595054008 Not all girls are 6 "5" and act like that a lot of them are mature and cute and respectful, but you look for that in little girls which is beyond fucked... I hope you never have children...
>>595051825 The same reason people like catgirls, or bondage, or Asians shitting squids. ~It's a fetish~
There are 2 types of pedos though, one that likes age, and another that likes body type. Age pedos are the real fucked p ones, and body pedos, (The type I am) are the ones that are interested in body formation.
>>595071839 Tell me about it, had a similar situation that resulted in my girlfriend beating the crap out of a guy because he had hit one of her friends. Had I been less of a white knight never would have been a problem.
>>595054649 Wrong, I lost my virginity at 18 and never ever feel any sort of attraction to any one under the age of 18, iv'e also been seduced by girls under 18(14,15 ect) but know that it's fucked up and not interested.
>>595072749 That's fair. I've jerked off to my sister's panties over the years. Hell, I stole a couple a pairs of my gf's younger sisters panties and jerked to them. I fucking sucked the pussy juice out of the cotton haha
>>595070513 When you don't look at the issue from both sides, and you sort of imply that the law is infallible, you discredit your whole argument. THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THE LAW!! HURR DURR!! 18 is a fucking arbitrary age and you know it. I'm not advocating people break the law I'm saying the law is shit.
>>595072397 >These are all the same person, me, and I am a pedophile.
I'm glad you're actually admitting it. I'm not trying to be mean to you, but you need help. It's extremely wrong to think this way. Please do something about your condition before you get ass raped in jail and ruin your life forever, although I think you're too deep in the hole because you already admitted to having sex with 14 yo and asked her to do sexual favors for you...
Getting raped as an 8 year old, you kind of want to do the same to other little girls. Maybe take away their innocence? Maybe just to see how it felt or what drove him to do it? try to experience it? But the question is why I like lolis? because I'd rather see a drawing, which hurts no one, then actually go out and do something stupid.
>>595073458 >because you already admitted to having sex with 14 yo and asked her to do sexual favors for you...
no, again, that was another person, with whom someone had me confused because I replied in the part of the conversation. It's not something I choose to feel. It pops into my head and I'm able to scrap it. It's very real, though. When you look at someone you're attracted to, you might think "wow he/she's hot, I want to see him/her naked", I do, too, but the people are, like, 8.
>>595053110 That's what I see as well. The innocence of a developing girl discovering her sexuality. It's an amazing and wonderful thing. I too like grown women as well. The younger girls are just another wonderful edition. Always interested when they start to realize rubbing themselves feels good and about their curiosity about sex and penises. I have asked every woman I have been intimate with about her first time. Always loved hearing about it.
>>595073940 It is wrong to be a fucking pedophile because eventually a person will act out on it. It's wrong to fucking think that way and need to see a therapist to get help to manage those feelings. And you think it's not wrong to be a pedophile? Tell that to all the guys in jail when they beat your ass, you fucking pedophile..............................
This entire thread has to do with cultural relativism. Some countries you have age of consent at 14, 12, and some don't have a limit at all.
In America it is frowned upon mostly. People's morals and views have the power to influence others as well. If you were raised by a pedo then brought into America you'd be like. What the fuck? They think this is wrong?
Let's try to include some logic and reasoning as to why we should or should not have sex with young females.
The counter argue I like against pedos are that they're not completely there mentally and they have not developed so it would be taking advantage of that. This may cause them trauma later in life.
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