2/10 Because believing a zombie died for our sins, because a book said so just doesn't cut it for me.
I think believing on evidence, fact, maths and science that our universe is a vast mystery is much more enlightening and wonderous.
Besides, science changes its stance based on evidence found in our universe. Religion wouldn't, even if someone found that without a doubt, the tomb Jesus was laid to rest in was built as some-ones shelter once.
If we marvel at our universe and spends our lives figuring things out to better understand it, would that not please God anyway? His creation is trying to understand itself, and the verse in which we live.
>>593542395 >he did his time I'm sure all those thoughts went away now. I'm sure he isn't getting a jet to cambodia to buy underage hookers. People like you are the worst, honestly. I jerked to CP, found it wrong, deleted it, and haven't looked back. Being attracted is fine, acting on impulse isn't. Stahp pls
>>593542771 Proof? No, just a somewhat practical thought, that has its fair basis in logic. You have proof that child molesters who do their time don't continue to do so? Would you like to debate this or mud sling? Because I have plenty of sources they are repetitive criminals.
Perhaps we do have a creator, but that does not necessarily mean he deserves worship. Omnipotence is impossible, and our "almighty" creator might not even acknowledge us. We could be an alien child's science project he got a C- on.
If God is real, and he actually pays attention to us, he is an ass anyway. I refuse to worship someone who rules by force, I refuse to worship someone who rules by fear, I refuse to worship the tyrant that is God.
If I write about a green closet living in the centre of the earth, and somebody finds it 1300 years from now, do you think there would be a small chance they actually believe it? (I hope you notice I'm not being serious, but I'd love to have an answer to the question though)
>>593543155 >by your logic anyone who commits a crime Fallacy much, I never ever made that out to be the case. Pedophilia differs from someone who robs a store, or does a drug, or hires a hooker, or prints fake money, or manipulates markets, or pulls strings, or lies, etc. it is a life long condition characterized by an attractiveness to a commonly taboo age group. It is quite frequent that pedophiles act on their urges in one sense or another, be it minor "creep" photos or direct sexual contact. Go to any board of CP and you'll see plenty of "have you guys ever done anything" threads. Go watch TCA Predator and notice that there are frequent repeats.
>death penalty/life Not really, depends on crime. Anybody who commits a murder or abuses animals or children should be put to death IMO, unless they are consistent or do it to a greater degree; i.e. serial murderer, rapist, pedophile, etc. Then they deserve life in prison. There is an argument as to how this is a drain on society and the economy, but it is justified IMNSHO. Death is a privilege, one should not get an easy way out after having enjoyed themselves in a sadistic manor.
The sun would win because the lions can't get to the sun unless they are space lions. But if the space lions live outside our solar system then all they have to do is wait until our sun eventually dies and bask in their superiority. I change my vote to space lions
>>593544487 You act as if I'm proud. I was 13-15 and I was on Limewire, I wanted to find girls similar to my age. That's why I searched preteen and not terms like baby blah blah like those sick fucks upload. In your quest to find good shit, you're forced to download files fully to see them. And I frequently saw disgusting children around 4-11 being abused. I changed my ways, and I still have that attraction. But I keep it in my mind and focus on women my age. It's there, but I have the willpower to avoid it.
>>593544669 That's a good argument, is that all you have to say? You meant the mudsling argument, not a debate.
>>593544761 but normal lions can fly, so space lions aren't even needed but normal lions cant breath space oxygen because it hurts their tummies so space lions beat normal lions i change my vote to sealions
>>593544645 Fair enough, but you should have said like Islam is right or something, otherwise people will assume that you're one of those muricans that still makes that idiotic mistake. you seem to know better though.
>>593537745 Nice picture. Just because you don't understand evolution, abiogenesis, or the big bang doesn't make many of the facts we know about them not true. You can't prove something doesn't exist, that isn't how it works. The burden of proof is on you to prove god exists. You can not and have not proven that god exists, therefore he does not exist, by default.
Wow, that was easy. Now if only you would accept science and logic over 67 stories selected from a much larger group of stories written years ago and translated and translated and translated (a few more times).
>>593545104 >>> > Anonymous 01/19/15(Mon)00:05:41 No.593545104 ▶ >>>593544934 (You) >Sorry I'm not willing to debate with someone who by their own logic should be imprisoned forever. >own logic "act on their urges" >I never acted on it Good skewed strawman, I'm sure not being able to think beyond a 9th grade level is pretty fun.
>Implying there is a benefit to believing in something that doesn't exist >if you want to believe in God "just in case" he is real, then you will go to Heaven, you are stupid >now, you have to decide what version of God/set of rules to follow >implying that God doesn't already know and hasn't yet decided whether or not you will go to Heaven.
If God doesn't exist, then do whatever you want. If he does exist, your urges and actions were planned by him (he made you and the universe the way they are, down to the cell; by the very nature of God having ultimate power and ultimate benevolence, everything that exists is perfect, and there is no alternative to perfect, hence everything is predestined and inevitable) so do what you want.
If you want to pick a specific doctrine and do all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify why God doesn't imply predestination, then you have now wasted too much time thinking about shit that doesn't exist.
>>593546067 Guess which one of us didn't abuse a child. Oh, sorry, I guess I'm making WAY too huge of a thought process for you.
>>593546132 I said being a pedophile is one thing, acting on pedophilia urges is another thing. Now ofc this thread turned into people on my ass over the fact I wasn't cowardly enough to lie bout this.
>>593537745 Because it is proven that all religion and their stories are based on the stars and their position in the sky and that thousands upon thousands of religions current and ancient all copy each others stories i.e. the roman god Ixion has the exact same story as Jesus watch the zeitgeist movie
>>593537745 Because there are 270 religions in this planet, so the odds of this specific god being the real deal doesnt seem high. So Id rather live without shitty, illogical, setbacks that only stunt this race.
>>593546515 Evolution doesn't make sense because it is all gobbly gook. Some dude made it up a long time ago to explain the way he sees the world and all you liberal heathens ate it up. You will believe anything if it fits into your tiny brains, because God is just too powerful for you to grasp.
>>593542134 >>593542134 >>593542134 You know whats funny? Im pretty sure the only reason that law exists is because theyre customers tend to be poor, therefore leading to them having criminal records. God I love my country
>>593546789 And Isaac Newton was a polytheistic deist. He wrote a lot of stuff down, he is known for that fact. You should probably read some of it before you call someone ignorant for stating a fact.>>593546831
>>593547656 >make sure that I live healthy in every way. >drinks alcohol, have sex with tons of girls and ignores the poor and homeless. You need rules to live by to balance the world. That's why our world is fucked up now. Right.
>>593549104 I never evaded the question. You guys act like children, I never defended my actions. I stated they were wrong multiple times, and I quit. I gave plenty of civil and rational arguments, all I got was "ur a pedofile lol fgt get arrested die" Give a real argument. You guys have said that by my own logic I should be arrested, I've made it clear a couple hundred times I'm differing impulsive action and a state of mind. It's because it's taboo as shit that you just continue to spew garbage at me. Also, horse shit, you commit crimes on the daily, it's impossible not to.
>>593550177 >not commit crimes I meant such as minor laws that the police will pull you over and beat the shit out of you for. They raided our house with 5 cops and made me wake up to a glock in my face over my brother accidentally buying a stolen TV.
>So why don't you feel the need to get punished for your crimes? Is it because you'll have to go door to door and tell your neighbours you're a pervert and a sex offender? >Maybe let them know thier kid/s aged 10-16 are objects of lust and repressed sexual frustration for you
>>593551884 And you refuse to answer my question, coward. You refuse to admit that you commit minor crimes and will not turn yourself in for them. Tarred with the same brush? Plenty of people have been arrested for viewing child pornography, guess which of the two groups have to tell their neighbors they are pedophiles? Have a good day, I'm out.
>>593537745 And what if he isn't? Then you've wasted your life going to church and reading the bible and following a moral code that says getting your dick sucked by your gf before marriage is a sin.
Inb4 heaven Even if God exists, who's to say that heaven also exists? And if we're talking about heaven from a Christian perspective, I would rather rot in Hell than go to heaven and worship God for all of eternity. Sounds like you spend your whole life at church just so you can die and spend eternity at church.
>>593547219 how are they the same god? jews, muslims, and christians obviously believe different things about their respective gods why believe they're the same one? then you might as well say that any monotheistic religion believes in the same god, but just believes different things about him/her at some point it becomes a distinction without a difference disagreements between monotheistic religions have always been expressed as "you believe in a false god" how come you know better than the actual theists?
>>593553584 Because they all worship the Abrahamic god. Literally, all of them. To the point where muslims accept jeebuz as a prophet and the jews admit jeebus was a man who had some wise things to say
>>593553658 >I accuse you of using shit logic, and you point out someone else's mistakes. >Ad hominem. >Implying you have a better sense than the Justice system You might, but somehow I think you might not be very intelligent...
>>593537745 Which one would you choose though? How could you stop your own preferential bias from leading your choice to potentially a false God? Surely purgatory is better than hell, right? I'd rather be caught not following any God than the wrong one.
>>593537745 But the burden of proof lies with you since you are making the claim that something exist, I can make the claim that a teapot is currently in orbit around the sun and just because you can't disprove doesn't it mean that it actually exist.
>>593553862 and they couldn't have different beliefs about which god Abraham worshiped? or different beliefs about which god has jesus as a prophet / incarnation / avatar / whatever? why not respond to the rest of what i actually wrote
Billions of planets with <120 elements means that eventually you're going to get some that end up with the possibility of life by accident.
These molecules that favour life will eventually by happenstance encounter others and eventually self replication occurs. It's not that difficult to understand it's just big numbers and possibility that people like to conveniently ignore.
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