here we go. listen bro, women are going to cost you money. got a gf? guess what, she is going to expect you get her gifs, taker her out to movies, and take her out to dinner. that shit adds up. and for what? at the end of the day, all u want to do is fuck. so mind as well just do it directly with a escort with zero BS involved.
women arnt free, pussy isnt free. stop pretending as if you got free pussy just because you took some girl u met in a bar out to dinner or you bought her drinks at said bar. that dinner/drinks costed you $$ bud.
>>583808410 Seems like hookers would be a smarter investment then, I mean, a guaranteed one time expenditure for a guaranteed one time output, or a variable multi-date expenditure for a theoretical one time output.
Yeah, hookers kinda feel like the better investment, idk.
>>583806986 How can I know if I'm being set up by police. Don't need no record and lol would to be embarrassed to face anyone if that happened. Also did you fuck that Asian chick from the site. I fucking love fat ass Asians. Jesus that pic is beautiful.
>>583808241 no, see, all you stupid pathetic fucks who go out and get escorts all the same bull shit excuses and reasoning. here's why its fucking retarded. who said you have to spend money? you ever been to highschool? to college? to a fucking office party? there is absolutely no money necessary for that shit. in fact I'm getting paid in a sense to fuck the shit out of drunk ass sorority girls every week. buy a couple kegs, charge guys $5 at the door, you make about $300, $400 profit, plus sluts trying to get at your dick.
>>583809389 thou angered? If you're willing to gamble on some college bitch that's your business, but the men of the USA who are actually intelligent wouldn't touch a female in college with a ten foot pole.
>>583809162 >your gf who you probably spend well over $1,000 every few months on. We barely spent $2k on our wedding. At my wife's insistence. I asked if she wanted a diamond, she said no, she wanted something practical. You guys are dating the wrong damn women.
here is a fun fact. those random girls u fuck at high school, college, and office parties? you have a higher risk of getting STDs from them than you do from a well reviewed and professional escort.
> in fact I'm getting paid in a sense to fuck the shit out of drunk ass sorority girls every week. buy a couple kegs, charge guys $5 at the door, you make about $300, $400 profit, plus sluts trying to get at your dick.
i lost my shit. confirmed fat ass fedora wearing neckbeard
I got an escort in Las Vegas last year. Paid $600. Looked about a 8.5/10 online...ended up being a solid 9.5/10 in person. Half black/half japanese...5'7 120...perfect C cup tits and a perfect ass, amazing hair/face/teeth. I went to her hotel room and we ended up talking for about 20 minutes...she was very intelligent and funny and easy to talk to.I told her I had never done this before, and was nervous. She laughed and told me to relax and have fun, and somehow that really relaxed me. She asked if I wanted a massage, I said yes. She suggested we get in the shower because it feels so good, and I agreed. She completely scrubbed me down everywhere with a sponge and and a rag, washed my ass and my cock. She led me into the bedroom and had me lay on the bed. She gave me the most amazing backrub, almost so good that I started getting tired. She had me turn over, and started rubbing my chest and rubbing her boobs all over me. Before I knew it, I was getting the best BJ I had ever gotten. She asked me if I was into "anything really kinky" and I replied.."this is pretty awesome for me". She smiled and started licking under my balls and before I knew it, her tongue was deep in my ass and she was slowly stroking my dick. It felt insanely good. After about 10 min, she got a condom out, and slid it on with her month. She got on top of me and started slowly riding me, and said "I want you to tell me when you are going to come". After literally 3 minutes, I felt like I was going to explode and told her, and she stopped and reached down and started lightly tugging my balls, and the urge subsided. For about 15 min after, was the absolute best sex of my life..she rode me like no other girl ever has. I ended up blowing my load and it seemed like I came for literally 45 seconds. After I got off, she got a towel, took the condom off and got rid of it, cleaned me up. Then she laid there and we talked about some bullshit for around 25 min and she told me to feel on her
>>583811050 so I laid there just feeling on her smooth skin, her ass and her tits. After awhile, she said "well, I should probably get going". And left. I passed out about 10 minutes later, and slept amazing. It was a great experience, I am not a bad looking guy at all, and would I pay the money again?..probably not. But it was an amazing experience with a woman that knew how to please a man that most guys don't get to ever have.
>going to a matinee and not having to deal with cell phones and screaming babies because we're the only ones in the theater >$10
>>583810668 No, Minnesotan. Almost no Jews here as far as I know, just Lutherans as far as the eye can see. And yeah, she and her family did pretty much all the decorating and the cake and shit from scratch. One of her friends is a minister and another happens to be a harpist, so we ended up with a decent, fun 50-person wedding for pretty cheap.
>>583811306 Y'know, I gotta admit, that sounds pretty nice. And I do a lot of the same kinda dates and shit you do. I'm just a sucker for extravagance at weddings, I want to really do it up, when I eventually do.
I've been fuckin this Hungarian escort for the past couple weeks. Best I've ever had. She's around 22 and speaks minimal english. BJ skills are amazing. I love living in nyc the choices are basically unlimited.
>>583811201 my point is, this dude is trying to act like guys who don't exclusively fuck hookers are somehow smarter since they will spend less money. when in reality, thats just fucking sad. sometimes you have to work for the pussy to make it that much better
to answer this guys question, reviews. reviews are highly important when choosing an escort. thats why backpage and craigslist are not good because they offer zero reviews and you are gambling.
also, Escorting is legal, prostitution isnt. with an escort, u are technically not paying for the sex. you are simply paying for the escort service and what ever happens next is up to the escort and is between two consenting adults.
Escorts with reviews on TheEroticReview or other established review sites are safest, as far as the fuzz are concerned. Do a Google search of their phone number and see if what you see about them jives with what they say they are (Are they travelers from city to city? Are they locals who live in the area?).
Ignore tosluts reviews, as it's just a spammy site.
NEVER discuss elicit activity over the phone.
Just trying to rattle off what info is coming to my head from my 100%-successful experiences.
>>583809389 I think you might be 12 or a pseudo-jesusfag, or who knows maybe even a grill.
What do you think about the people who actually are pathetic and can't get no pussy otherwise?
Are they extra pathetic for being pathetic, or just the regular amount of pathetic?
If you've been around long enough, you know why people go for hookers. It is fairly reasonable to let them go for it, after all it's a trade of services between two adults who want easy access to things. There's very little deception here, unlike in most relationships: it's just business as usual.
for a good looking girl with good service expect to pay at least 200, unless you know what you are doing. I would suggest a cheaper agency or look through erotic review. I'm pretty good at telling the real from the fake on backpage so I consistently get good looks in the 100-150 range. Service can be hit and miss. The Hungarian girl I mentioned I found on backpage and she's super hot and is giving me the best service I've ever had all for 120.
as i said before, start with eccie or p411 or any other well know escort REVIEW site and pic a city that is closest to you. make sure the escort provides outcalls if you are not willing to travel yourself.
>>583813946 Shit 200 or less really? That's really freat tbh, was expecting to pay something like upwards of 500. Hell I bought a fleshlight for around $80, so spending a little over double for the real thing is no skin off my bones, thanks. Any girls in those areas you recommend? Also if I was to cruise around backpage, how could I weed out the fakes/sketchy from the real offers?
Eh, I'm 34, and its too much maintenance dealing with a live in girlfriend who will constantly pressure you if its serious or not, make you meet her parents and hang out with her friends, and so forth. And there's simply very little variety in it. I've been there, done that, and its enough.
Now in college, sure pussy is easy, but when you're working five days a week until 6PM, and you're not in your prime anymore (I workout, but am a good 20 lbs overweight for sure), why settle for some bitch my age and my league and good luck finding one that just wants to be a fuck buddy for a week or two and then do the search all over.
It gets expensive, but once a week or every other week to try a new exotic pro that is in her early 20s and really knows how to fuck... to me its worth it.
Call it beta if you want, but to me settling for a 6/10 live in girlfriend and going shopping with her and listening to her whine about her coworkers for hours? That's pretty shit.
If you've got a 8-pack and are in your 20s, ya no point, but eventually you'll find that hookers are nice from time to time.
I said 200 and up for a safe bet. I usually stay within bk and browse backpage for hungarians or russians cause that's my thing. They usually range from 100-150 and are pretty hit and miss. I usually show up and if I am not satisfied with how the girl looks I would leave. I would venture to Manhattan or use an affordable agency for a more guaranteed girl lookwise and servicewise. Manhattan of course is more expensive. As for weeding out the fake on backpage that comes with experience. I pretty much have a sixth sense for it now. Google also helps.
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>>583811534 Unless op has some legit connects a 2 grand wedding is in his backyard. Just because the priest and the harpist were friends doesn't mean you shouldn't tip/pay them. Renting a spot is exspensive, her dress , even bargain bought should be $200 (you can get them from China handmade) but food is usually $30 a plate so there it is
>>583806986 heres some advice faggot. NO escort/whore/yomama/w/e the fuck you wanna call these sluts EVER look even that good. you will pay a sum of money, to much, and get 4 layers of condom between you and a crack whore with stds.
tl;dr losers get whores. winner get women and fuck them. rape them, what ever the fuck the feminists are calling it these days. I AM A R O B O T
>>583814212 so you would rather pay a couple hundred dollars to get your dick sucked when you can get the exact same thing for free with some effort put into some kind of social interaction (WHOA WATCH OUT GUYS I KNOW THAT IS DIFICULT FOR YOU!) and some free alcohol
>>583815746 > It's all about how much you make her love you.
anyway, u can do what you want with your gf that you somehow think is free. i really dont care. ive had gfs before, then i came to the realization that they are the same as escorts, except lower quality and more needy.
enjoy your making your gf love you tho. ill see you in the next "the feels when gf of xx years dumped me" thread.
>>583814361 ok finally someone who is talking some sense. I can understand now how maybe in a decade or two it might just be easier to pull bitches by just straight up paying them. i'm in my very early 20's so forgive the shortsightedness
>>583808241 I disagree entirely. I made all the money between my girlfriend and I while she stayed at home. I paid for everything and got laid nightly. Then I lost my job as she picked up a new job. Now SHE makes all the money and I stay at home... ...Oh yeah, and I still get laid nightly.
Girls are a commitment, when they're both committed, its infinite pussy. Money isn't a factor anymore, it all goes to the bills and you STILL get laid.
>>583806986 Not a moralizing loser here, but I'd recommend you reconsider visiting whores. If you're an ok looking guy and you have game, then you should be able to find a willing woman. If you can't, then that's nature telling you to lift your game -- go to the gym, buy better clothes, develop decent social skills.
Whores are for losers without sufficient self-respect. Free sex is the reward nature gives for being a desirable person.
All these neck beards who cant get pussy pathetically are trying to rationalize getting an escort just admit you have no game and have to pay to get pussy dont try to defend yourself - its the fucking internet, faggots
>>583816242 >Where you live? of course they're full of shit for paying as much as they are. friend of mine's fucking a legally retarded girl. sure it sucks. but he's fatter than i am and she's cute as fuck even if she's dumber than shit. she's empty in the brain so he gets to do anything he wants. she is legally retarded though. shit's funny.
>>583817890 so how old am I. last time i checked, 11 is as young as a preteen can get. unless by "very early pre-teen stages" you meant, a juvenile, child, or baby. and in that case, I think I've proven i'm smart as fuck for that age.
no one is trying to defend themselves here. at the end of the day, we got pussy. why does it matter so much how we got it? does it threaten your alpha nature that we got pussy a different way than you did?
last i checked, pussy is pussy. i paid for it, but hey, atleast i got to bust my load down some bitches throat after i finished face fucking her against the wall.
>>583817906 yea, but you're not smarter than me because you pay to have sex. you twist it around and act like the only other alternative to hookers is a full out relationship where you spend thousands of dollars a week or some dumb shit. there are lots of free ways to have sex with lots of sluts
The amount of sex recieved goes dramatically down as you age, because there's so fucking much other shit to do that there is no fucking time for fucking. It's tragic. And frankly quite a lot of people don't want to just fuck around WITH random people. They want better and more. People become pathetic. Men get their balds, women get their droopy tits. It's goes from barely hot to disgusting. Ever thought of fucking a 50 year old woman? Better start thinking about it, because someday you'll be 50 and people are going to view you like you're 50 -which you will be unless you manage to kill yourself.
>>583819683 so........ still waiting on that ban! you fat virgin fuck. if it wasn't for that half retarded crackwhore on the corner, you would have never gotten your dick wet. go fuck your moldy cum filled waifu pillow and jack off to mlp you pimply bitch. but don't forget to pull your oily hair back into a pony tail and stab yourself with the fake katana you bought off of ebay you clown.
>>583817584 As if happiness isn't enough? You are looking at relationships from a very skewed perspective, I think. Go to brothels all you want. If that's what you find efficient to get your sexual needs satisfied, I'm not going to judge you. But if you look at a relationships worth based on a figure in the bank, you are never going to understand that none of the things you say really matter to someone in a relationship. Different strokes.
I rarely make my bf pay for anything. Either I pick up the entire bill or we go dutch. I dont force him to meet my family, he wants to. I dont ask for expensive gifts on holidays or my birthday either. I dont cheat on him, and I've never thought about it. 90% of the time, I will give him sex when he wants. I only say no if I'm not feeling well or it's that time of the month. You guys are blowing money on some girl that doesnt care for you and doesnt even know what you like. When youre in a relationship you get to explore interests together and that person will always know what you like. Also you love that person so sex is even better (in my opinion). If you want to fuck some random chick, go ahead, but dont make it seem like its superior to having a gf.
you can try to pretty it up all you want, but relationships cost money bro. no matter how caring your gf is to you, you still have those hidden costs of taking her to dinner, to movies, getting her gifs for xmas and bday, etc etc.
not to mention the costs of marriage and the cost of having kids if you go that far.
i never said being in a relationship is bad. all i was saying this entire time is that it cost money, and if all you want is sex out of a relationship then its best to go with an escort.
if you are looking for MORE than sex and want an actual companion in life, then by all means, get a gf and get fucking married. not stoping u from doing that.
>be 17 >call escort service from the phonebook (it's this with phone numbers for you youngfags) >tell them she has to be quiet because my mom is home >meet escort outside >was drinking and doing cocaine all night >start talking about drugs with the escort >she gives me heroin >she starts rubbing my back >nod out for what seemed like 10 minutes >she gets a call saying the hour is up and that she has to leave >get mad >"no, you're not leaving. It hasn't been an hour and I didn't get what I paid for" >She gives me the number and tells me to call them >I call them and tell them I'm done with her yet >they tell me too bad >I won't let her leave. >she is telling me that her drivers are gonna beat her up >don't care >doorbell rings >hear my mom wake up and answer the door >"anon, two big russians are at the door asking 'where is the girl'" >hooker walks past my mom and out the door >I spent 350 dollars on nothing and now my mom thinks I kidnapped some russian mobster's girlfriend >found a bag of dope on bed the next day though
>>583817568 It's fine to put on a frat facade IRL to bullshit yourself and everybody else, but just in case you forgot to take it off; you're on a Cambodian cartoon picture forum. Even if you're truly and genuinely proud of it, we honestly dont care about how rad you party, or how many bitches you pulled each night, or baby first jewnomic overcharging for piss water.
OP's topic might be sad as fuck, but you're just pathetic and coming off all kind of tools. Make no mistake people laugh at you not w/ you.
>>583821765 I am not prettying up anything nor was I implying that you hated relationships. I am moreso curious about why the money aspect means so much to you. Not really arguing, I'm just curious about how you justify that point since I can't really decipher your point from what you've posted.
if what your saying about yourself is true, then you should know woman like you are rare or certainly not the majority. that or what your describing doesn't last long.
maybe 20% of girls are like that and thats being generous i think.
plus it's not that proponents of having sex with hookers all think it is "superior" some do some dont. It that it is a truly valid option and increasingly so in this day and age especially in the United States where you are surrounded by ugly yet conceited women who want everything and give nothing.
i've had sex with a loving partner and it was great.
i've had sex with a hooker and it was great.
i had sex with a girl i picked up and it was bad
i had sex with another hooker and it was bad.
yes hookers can of course be bad just like non-hookers, but there are increasing benefits with hookers to the modern man that just can't be overlooked.
>>583821326 I am a hobbyist. I have a group of dudes I meet up with sometimes when I go to Amsterdam. In my experience, most people who get hookers regularly have been married previously and just feel the relationship thing isn't for them, or otherwise just don't feel like dealing with women anymore.
I have literally seen one of my buddies turn down a sure thing with a girl at a bar to go fuck a hooker an hour later.
It seems to be a lot more about convenience and specificity. You can get exactly what you want, when you want. You want to get a blowjob, fuck in certain positions, anal, then finish on a girl's face? You got it. You want that girl to be a tall, slim blonde with big tits wearing black lingerie, heels, and glasses? Done.
Yes, you can go out, troll bars, clubs, parties, whatever, and probably get a girl. Can you get one who looks exactly the way you want and will do everything you want? Probably not. Can you do it 100% at will? I doubt it.
You don't do it to get sex. You do it to get sex exactly the way you want it, when you want it, and without any hoops to jump through.
Also, keep in mind, we're not all in college. I'm 34. I can't go to clubs and college parties and shit anymore (well, I COULD, but it'd be fucking weird).
Definitely wasn't a virgin when I stared seeing the working girls. Had been married twice. Cost me a hell of a lot more than my hobby has, that's for damn sure.
>>583822369 There's no way in hell I'd feel inferior to a woman who sells her body. top fucking kek. I may be "ugly," but I have someone who loves me and my body.
I dont feel the need to fuck other people and he doesnt either. I asked him if he wanted to and he thought it was gross. I never knocked you for liking what you like. I just offered you another viewpoint. I dont give a fuck about who you fuck or what you spend your money on.
really? cuz ive said it so many times in this thread.
money=quality. you cant to pick and choose who you want and when you want. you get to pick there color, there height, there size, there ethnicity, there age, etc etc etc.
thats the power of getting an escort. even with a gf, you wont get that kind of choice. you dont chose who your gf is, they chose you. it is actually very rare that your first crush/love intrest is your first, only, and last gf.
dont believe me? how many girls have you seen in life that you wish you could have, but cant have because you have to play the silly dating game? eventually you may find someone of interest that is also interested in you, but how many girls did u pass up that you could have fucked?
so again, its all about quality and power of choice.
women in the united states would be screwed if it was ever outright legalized.
it'll never happen it seems at men have given women/feminist/lobby groups so much power.
Even though it is just simply letting a woman use her body for her own purposes.
Women here are afraid though, they know how good they have it but won't admit it.
If prostitution were legalized women would lose all the power, their only power really, which is sex. Women in US are not useful anymore except for sex and they hang it over guys heads, it's a punchline its so common.
Men would no longer feel the need to do so much for women.
It's a shame, I wish the US male population could collectively get their nuts back and do something.
ha yea, but you have to though, the realistic statistic of likely less than 3%, most people will just shutdown and forget anything you say. if you say a number like 20% people might start to understand
never said that getting a hooker makes me smarter than you, its just a different route to sex. And I think that going the route of escorts isnt one to be ashamed of as long as its only temperoary since having that lifestyle for too long turns one into a degenerate. just as fucking college sluts for too many years in row will also make one a degenerate.
as long as its done it moderation, neither are bad decisions.
>>583823328 Alright I see where you're coming from. If you treat the courting process like hiring a car, then sure. I don't really see it the same way, so agree to disagree. As for your question, I don't really know. I've never dwelled on it too much. For that exact reason, I would say not many, if any at all. I was too much of a fat piece of shit with no confidence to actually have the balls to think about dating a girl. Then again, the idea of a hooker never quite crossed my mind earlier on in my life either.
>>583823987 Nevada requires condom use by law. Also, the brothels there are expensive as fuck and the girls, although they're hot as fuck, will game the shit out of you to do as little as they can for as much money as they can get.
>>583822761 I know its a rare thing and that makes me upset. I wish more women would act like me (then men wouldnt have any reason to complain about us). I mean im not perfect. I can be a cunt sometimes. This whole thing is subjective. If you like doing hookers, fine. If you like doing your gf, fine. I just offered my side of how I see things
I've fucked a decent amount of escorts and normies. There are pros and cons to paying for sex and pros/cons to dating or picking up chicks for casual sex.
But escorts are almost 100% pro if you're a rich fag. If you just want to deposit semen in a vagina with no potential entanglements and in the most straightforward way possible then fantastic.
But I enjoy my romantic entanglements as well. Because it's more ego gratifying to fuck actual women without paying them.
But sometimes I just don't give a shit and don't want to contribute any real social effort toward getting laid. I like placing my order, dozing off in my PJs until she gets there and then...satisfaction with no regards to future interaction or anyone's potential feelings. Don't care what anyone thinks about that. I'm above judgement. I got money.
its really not that bad dude. again, going back to a recent most i made, think about your gf and all of the men she has possibly fucked.
they all went in condomless just like you did. whats the difference? if you got a LEGIT virgin gf then good for you, but the majority of the time this isnt the case. if she had multiple bfs in the past then you better damn well expect that she fucked each and every last one of them.
and you are naive as fuck if you believe her when she says "i swear i never had sex with any of my ex bfs annon, just you!"
Who gives a shit if a guy is buying whores? I get plenty of ass and I would still buy an escort if the situation was right (Vegas, vacation, etc). They're easy and all they cost is some pocket change. And they're generally pretty hot too. I'd rather pay 150$ for some bombshell with an ass the size of Jupiter to treat my dick like its the reincarnation of Jesus christ than find some drunk whore at a bar who just lays there like a fish. Get off your high horse you faggots, nobody is bragging about fucking whores here. You don't need to get all but hurt because someone pays for sex. If you faggots had any self worth beyond how many girls you fuck you probably wouldn't be so insecure that you've got issues with people paying for what you deem to be the most impressive part of your personality.
>>583824228 This. I fully accept that the hooker thing isn't for everyone. Some people enjoy the hunt, they like chasing girls, they like to feel like they've "earned" it, and that's fine. Everyone needs to do what works for them.
I just don't think there should be a stigma around using sex workers. Prostitution has been around forever, it will always exist, there's obviously a huge demand for it, so obviously lots of people are doing it. I guarantee, probably half the politicians who decry prostitution have done it. We already know for a fact that the DC area has a massive sex trade business. We, as a society, just need to accept that it happens, it's always happened, it always will, and it's far more common than most think. We need to stop stigmatizing it because doing so is silly and hypocritical.
>>583811706 no, see, all you stupid pathetic fucks who go out and get escorts all the same bull shit excuses and reasoning. here's why its fucking retarded. who said you have to spend money? you ever been to highschool? to college? to a fucking office party? there is absolutely no money necessary for that shit. in fact I'm getting paid in a sense to fuck the shit out of drunk ass sorority girls every week. buy a couple kegs, charge guys $5 at the door, you make about $300, $400 profit, plus sluts trying to get at your dick.
>>583824925 Hey, sex is an indulgence, just like food is. If I'm going to date someone (I do still date), then she's a complete person with a personality and feelings and all that stuff, and that's the way it should be.
If it's purely a sex thing, then she's basically a just a toy and none of it matters other than getting me what I want.
>>583823759 I wrote a paper on the legalization of prostitution and I agree with you about that 100%. Although I dont think women would be screwed. Some guys would still want marriage and not all girls are power hungry bitches.
>>583824424 I've only had sex with my bofriend. I'm 19 (almost 20) and we started dating when I was 18. I was homeschooled and had no way of really meeting men. He took my virginity and I took his. I personally feel like what makes me different from an escort, is the fact that if you are sick and want soup at 3 in the morning, I'll cook it and give it to you. If you need someone to talk to, I'm here for you. If you need a date to your cousins wedding, I'm here for you. If you want to try a new hobby, I'm here for you and will get into it as well. If a family member dies, Im here to support you. I dont think that the women who sell themselves are bad people. I think of us as equals with different jobs.
I dont know why you are trying to turn this into some fight, I said I respected your opinion. Oh wait I forgot I'm on /b/, I'll never win
that's fine and your answer even the post i first responded to all have the semblance of reasoning and logic (which is why im a bit skeptical you are a woman though I'll assume you are)
> go ahead, but dont make it seem like its superior to having a gf
was the reason I responded.
because in most individual cases it can be, also you were talking about a relationship. which is fine and so was i, but to be fair this is about fucking. simple hot sweaty fucking, which for men is a need. for women its a want. this can't be debated.
this is why women get to be hookers and men get to be customers. there is so much biology behind it i cant even start or I'll write for hours.
but basically since I need it (the fucking) on occasion to subside the millions of years masculine and animalistic biology, the evolutionary byproduct of prostituting was by all intents and purposes necessary.
we just want to pay and get it over with. when you break it down, sex for men is really unfortunate and mostly a burden and a chore, that just happens to feel pretty good when we ejaculate.
Best one I ever had was $300 an hour, she actually tried and had fun with me, afterwards we smoked and she watched a movie with me. Shit so cash. We go out sometimes and she doesn't charge me anymore so its w/e. Shes also slowly taking less and less clients as well.
>>583821561 Just because you're a decent girlfriend doesn't mean that every girl is. An overwhelming majority of women are extremely selfish when it comes to relationships, it's all take and no give. Most people's girlfriends probably care about them about as much as a typical prostitute does, so it's really not that different. None of the shit you listed as things you do for your boyfriend are very difficult to do. In fact it sounds like your role could be replaced by a female friend or family member. Relationships aren't for everyone. I find them to be trying and not worth the effort. Maybe in some fantasy land where a women could be attractive and a decent human being they could work out, but on earth those two things are mutually exclusive.
no and I can see how you'd think that, it was a pretty stupid thing to say in the moment, I meant it more as men have it a need because of the need to spread the seed, where as women have the need to nurture/make a baby, which I think largely constitutes my statement, but yes i did word it immaturely.
>>583829541 because that's the only thing you're offering here. whatever you say is completely useless, whatever you link is useless, all you have to offer once you come here playing the "im a grill" card is your naked body as a call for attention
im sure it's disgusting too but that's beyond the point
>>583815395 >here we go. listen bro, women are going to cost you money. got a gf? guess what, she is going to expect you get her gifs, taker her out to movies, and take her out to dinner. that shit adds up. and for what? at the end of the day, all u want to do is fuck. so mind as well just do it directly with a escort with zero BS involved. >women arnt free, pussy isnt free. stop pretending as if you got free pussy just because you took some girl u met in a bar out to dinner or you bought her drinks at said bar. that dinner/drinks costed you $$ bud.
>Finally get my first escort at 30 >Backpages >Holy shit this chick lives in my apartment building >Talked to her a couple times and always follow her up the stairs staring at her ass >Fapped to her a few times >I normally like girls with big ass/hips/tits >10 thousand bitches in my spankbank over the years, finally get to fuck one >Sure enough, comes over about 15 mins after I call her >Thought it would be awkward because we kinda know each other >She laughed about it and told me that she hoped I would find out and call her sometime >Sex was actually amazing, 200 for an hour. amazing sex, she was really into it, talked really dirty the whole time, liked it rough >Start calling her more and more >She starts texting me randomly >Start getting a weekly rate >She randomly texts me for quick deals, once I only had 40 bucks and I got an hour out of it >Texting start happening more frequently >Pretty soon I am fucking her 3 or 4 times a week, only pay about half price once a week >Start watching movies together and cuddling >Not sure how I feel about having a half escort half booty call >Start to feel super dirty about all the dudes who are probably in and out everyday >Finally lie and tell her I got a gf so she stops texting me
Actually kind of miss her, the sex is great but I love eating pussy, and I just cant bring myself to eat a pussy that may have had 10 dicks in it that day, she said she only did 3 or 4 clients a day sometimes more on weekends, but still.
>>583829980 no, see, all you stupid pathetic fucks who go out and get escorts all the same bull shit excuses and reasoning. here's why its fucking retarded. who said you have to spend money? you ever been to highschool? to college? to a fucking office party? there is absolutely no money necessary for that shit. in fact I'm getting paid in a sense to fuck the shit out of drunk ass sorority girls every week. buy a couple kegs, charge guys $5 at the door, you make about $300, $400 profit, plus sluts trying to get at your dick.
Thing is, there's nothing like the feeling you get when you suddenly realize that you are getting your cock sucked by a bitch that is doing that shit because she really wants to, not because she is getting payed. At least that's what happens to me
>>583831249 If it wasn't for the fact I live in a shitty small ass state/town and all the message parlors have been raided in the last year by cops, id be at a message parlor right this second getting a tug.
Unfortunately, I like the money I make, and the position and company I am in would be at risk if I ever get caught at one of those things.
Also haven't gotten laid in years. Go to different bars every week, go to all the parties, even best man at 2 weddings, (I fucking kid you not, not a single one of the 20 bridesmaids were single.)
The last slump-buster I was with, was this super fat ugo, manipulative cunt that was taking child support and had a full time job. Here Husband left her because she wouldn't stop sleeping around even after she had the baby, I literally never felt soo disgusted in my entire life.
I said if these are the women I'm going to resort to because there's nothing else around I rather not fuck.
Yep, I literally have no issue paying for sex at this point, and there's the potential they are 9/10 hotties and no bullshit, money, sex. done.
I also find it funny out of all my friends that spew the most game about macking bitches and not paying, were the first ones to start paying after they couldn't get laid after 6 months. Idk what's with any one superiority complex but your gonna fucking crash hard once your outta college, and I might even pity you.
if you CAN'T get pussy, by all means, go the fuck ahead and pay for those bitches. I have friends that could be fucking girls regularly, but resort to paying because it's easier. And if you think that i will not pay for pussy when i can no longer get it, you are plain wrong.
>>583833507 Just to clarify some of the things I did: - threesome with 2 girls (about 10 times) - foursome with 3 girls (3 times) - sisters (went down on each other) - twins (went down on each other) - no condom (half a dozen girls) - whole nighter with 2 girls - without paying (with 4 or 5 girls) - 65 swallowed my cum (my biggest fetish) - creampie with 2 - fucked married girls (2 that I know of) - fucked 18yo girls (born 1996) (2 that I know of) - pissed on 3 girls - got a girl to drink my piss - etc, etc, etc...
Get tested regularly, never caught anything. Not bad for a loser eh?
>be 20 >to afraid to approach women >decide to rent an escort >meet her at predetermined location >I bring condoms >putting on condoms, I realize they're too small >she tries sliding it on with her mouth >rips foreskin and frenulum >blood squirts into her mouth >bloody yellow teeth >she vomits on my crotch and I pass out >come to in bed with dried blood on bed, floor and wall for some reason >looks like the Scarface shower scene >moneys gone >got dick sucked kind of
>>583834970 This is why I do it. How else does a guy get to do shit like this? I've fucked a pornstar. Like a legit pornstar. You can go to a porn site right now and find her scenes. I had my dick in her ass. Balls deep down her throat. She swallowed my cum. I pulled anal beads out of her ass with my teeth.
>>583835293 Depends honestly. First was 1 hour 400 euros, second was 2 hours 700 euros, third was 1 hour 450 euros.
Considering a normal single escort averages 250 euros for 1 hour I'd say those were still bargains.
Even tho for the nighter with 2 girls, I went behind the agency and delt directly with the girls for 500 euros total so that was even better. Not counting the free nights I got with some other girls obviously.
I lost my virginity a week ago, and I saw another escort this past Saturday. She couldn't get me off, and when I went to finish myself off I asked if it was okay if I came on her face. She hesitated a bit but agreed to it, a couple of seconds later I exploded a rope of cum on her face. Bitch got mad and got up real fast to clean herself up, and I was left with a ruined orgasm. I dont think escorts are for me guys.
>>583836853 I almost had a threesome with my regular girl in Amsterdam, the aforementioned pornstar (porn name was Pamela Ann, though she looks very different now, got her tits done and got super fit, goes by Dita now) and Jasmine Black. Fell through because Jasmine was asking more money than Dita had initially quoted me, and didn't get back to us in time for it to happen.
A little disappointed, but maybe next time.
Sandra Romain is also a possibility for my next trip. Might go for it.
Fuckin' love these threads. If any newfags still have lingering questions let me know.
Wish I could say I've had mindblowing sex but my dick isn't very sensitive. I can't feel shit with condoms on. (Bareback is taboo as fuck in the hooker community. I'm sure some do it, but I've not asked/been offered.)
Anyway, guess I'll share one of my more unusual experiences: >Like strip clubs alot. Get into escorts later. >Lady on Eccie keeps advertising dance / front body massage / BJ (only) >Can kinda tell pictures are manipulated, but my stripper boner gets the best of me and I contact her >She is giving me address, I spill a huge plate of sphagetti and burst out "Oh, you live at [apartment complex]" >Dead silence for a few seconds. Anyway, I recover, explain that is where I live, set up appointment. >Walk maybe 30 feet to the next building & her door >I requested see-through lingerie, she has some on. But I immediately realize she is fairly plump, and probably 10-15 years older than I am. >Thiskillstheboner.jpg
>She has me get naked & sit on couch. Striptease is pretty meh tier but... >She has enormous, firm, & natural tits. Fucking amazing. She also likes when people play with them. Breddy guud >She also has really long tongue. Like a good 4" more than the average person. Breddy guud >She massages my arms, thighs, inner thigh, cock & baals. Breddy guud >Starts giving me BJ. I'm lost in contemplation of her amazing tits & tongue. >This seems to go on for ages, but I'm so relaxed I don't notice. >After awhile she sneaks in some hand lotion for lube & starts jerking me. >Gets her tits in the mix. Likely the best titjob I'll ever know- but not really my thing. >Getting close, sneaks her hand onto my dick from under her tits. >Cum with the force of 999.9 suns >She cleans me up. We talk for awhile (maybe 15-20min) and I head home. >Look at the clock, realize its been two fucking hours (she charges per session, not per hour, so I didn't pay attention before). >Realize she was working my dick (the good way) for atleast 75-90 minutes straight.
Kinda weird that a fat, older, mexican lady (none of those are my type) provoked that out of me, but I still got a chubby just remembering & writing the story.
>>583840147 Man this is an area where I'm jelly of you eurobros
That shit would cost ~$300 from the average lady in my area There is an agency here in the US that features some playboy models and some pornstars, but their rates are like $1500 (and I don't even know their menu)
>>583840515 Well before the session started she told me her only rule was not to cum in her mouth. I had also read reviews where they state that she had done cum on face, so I figured it was okay to make sure it was okay. Its not even nervousness or anything its just that as you said the magic isn't there.
>>583841234 Same. My first few times I was nervous as fuck and some of the girls were not great providers. Once I found a few girls that I clicked with who gave great service, though, it got really good really fast.
>>583841301 I'm actually from Canada. I just travel to Europe frequently.
>>583841385 You mean email them personally? Cuz I texted pornescort and they're absolutely negative on the swallow part.
Tho it's true that other agencies have told me that as well for some of their models, and then I still convince the girl to do it during the meeting so you never know.
My experience with pornstars escorts tho is that it's not really a great thing. Cuz you'd expect them to be as slutty as what you saw in their scenes and they rarely are. Usually they do a lot less stuff as an escort than as a pornstar.
>>583841482 Sounds to me like you encountered a poor provider, bro. Believe me I've met some airheads & bitches.
I haven't been keeping up with the hobby scene and just recently came back. Turns out P411 nuked the 'services' section, which is a big disappointment. Otherwise I'd recommend you go straight to P411 to see if chicks do what you want.
>>583842035 Only pornstar I've ever been with was Dita and she definitely lives up to her scenes. All her scenes have anal, lots of DP, done DA, lots of rough gagging, all that good stuff.
She does it all during her sessions. Only thing she absolutely won't do is uncovered sex. OWO as an extra, yes, sex, no. Anal is included in all her sessions, she brings a bunch of toys with her, encourages you to fuck her with toys, play with her pussy and ass, gives crazy, sloppy, deep head. My last session, she just pulled my dick out through the front of my boxers and went to town. When I got up after she made me cum, the front of my boxers were absolutely soaked through with spit. I had to hang that shit up to dry before I could even throw it in the laundry bag. Shit was amazing.
I love that chick so much. Absolutely has the right attitude for this work.
>>583842909 Sounds like a great fuck :) OWO is very rarely an extra in Paris. CIM sometimes is, and swallow is supposedly rare but gaining some momentum.
Funny thing that you'd mention uncovered sex, I saw a girl a few hours ago and convinced her to fuck without condom next time. She's totally down for it. I'm fucking happy because usually without condom is totally taboo here. She's fucking hot too so that helps.
>>583842684 I live in southern Texas, so there isn't much variety. Bunch of overweight hispanic providers and older ladies that im sure give good service but id rather go for looks. I might give it one more shot with a 19 yr old ive been eying on the eccie website.
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