Don't know if I'm attractive but whenever I'm in the gym girls stare at me. The gym worker (a woman) keeps hovering near me every chance I get. When I go to class asian girls hover around me by the door. I would say some smart and cool pick up line to them but I just got my hot new body this year and I'm too focused on this one girl I like. mfw I am an attractive man with an average man's mindset. mfw binders of bitches want to drown my dick but I can't get it up to anyone other than one girl. tldr: What makes something a blessing or a curse is what we do with it. Doesn't matter if you r ugly or hot just be comfortable with yourself.
>What is it like to be attractive? Pretty good. Women are nice/flirty with me, and men seem to want to be my friend more easily. >What is it like to be extroverted? It's great. You have nearly limitless opportunities to meet new people and have novel experiences with them. >What is it like to touch a female? It's one of the greatest pleasures on this earth.
>>564199395 So as an extrovert, how long can you go just sitting in your room all day? I'm an introvert, so if I go out to do things with people every day, after a few days I really feel like I need to stay in my room and do nothing.
>>564199498 My cousin is the ugliest guy I know yet he is literally swimming in the pussy. He is just very forceful. He doesn't take no for an answer. He knows he is ugly and that I am hot, and sometimes he even says that with my looks and his charm he would be irresitible to girls. But looking at him now, he can fuck a 9/10 qt everynight of the week with no remorse, while I cant get over what some people are saying is a 7 or 8/10. To me she is an 11/10. Confidence goes far man.
>>564199894 I can be really extroverted, sure, but I can do a bunch of room-sitting by myself as well. Back in high school (before I became "attractive") I was a shut-in and I spent all my time on the internet. I love to get out and do things in the city, but I definitely still enjoy my alone time. Compared to you though, I get a sort of opposite feeling if I stay cooped up too long; I feel the need to get out and go on an adventure
I know a guy who looks like a gremlin or some shit but he goes out, parties, and acts like he owns the place and always seems to get hot chicks. Being attractive might give you confidence but if you're completely comfortable with yourself and know how to talk to people, you're good
>>564196413 >What is it like to be attractive? Pretty awesome, but looks aren't everything. If you're unable to smile back to talk to a girl then it's a waste. >What is it like to be extroverted? People at your job/work/party are curious to know who you are, so why not tell them? >What is it like to touch a female? Rewarding since it's a biological reward
>>564201932 >If you're unable to smile back to talk to a girl then it's a waste Fuck, I just realized that I don't even know how to smile without it looking weird and awkward. It's the reason I hated picture day back in school.
>>564201535 Now that's a bit much there. I did that in high school - just whole semesters of coming straight home to play pc games and browse the web. Like I said, I still enjoy those things (and spend a lot of time on them), but I still manage to get out in the real world pretty often. Once you feel comfortable with it, having fun "outside" becomes more addictive than isolation (at least it was for me).
>>564203159 Hey, I did the same thing! I didn't really start "hanging out" with people until mid-way through my final year of high school. I was probably just as used to "staying in" as you became. My high school friends were pretty shitty anyway; I didn't get out there properly until I went to university.
>>564204260 The attitude that you have towards interacting with people is what makes this so hard. Having fun and growing as a person changes everything though, trust me on that. I'm sure you can imagine that things would be much better for you if you actually DID feel like you wanted to meet new people and go out - and college is the place to be for that. You've probably heard this - and it's true - that college is a whole different ball game from high school. People are (generally) nicer and more mature, and you deal with a lot less bullshit. Outside of class, everybody just wants to have a good time, and with the right attitude it's easy to "go with the flow" and make friends.
>>564205197 >Wouldn't that make you an introvert? dunno.. my thoughts of being an extrovert is someone who is outgoing. but i just read on some website that this is not entirely true and the true definition is: "an extrovert is a person who is energized by being around other people." im definitely not energized by other people.. so by that definition, i guess im an introvert.. but i generally have more extrovert "symptons" than introvert ones
>>564205306 I know people are not going to be as shitty as high school, but I still don't like being around people no matter how nice they are. It's just my level of introversion, I don't really know how to change that. I tried getting out more, but then I just kept ending up feeling like I need to stay home away more and more. I know it makes it harder for me, but I'm kind of used to it. People have never been easy for me.
Being attractive and having a nice body is alright. People think being attractive means people will be nicer to you. That's such a load of shit. When I go to the gym other "alpha" looking males give me the stink eye because they know that they have competition, and might feel a little less secure. Especially when the female they brought is looking at you.
>>564205998 I'm not sure what I can say about that. You have a leg up on some people though (who don't realize that their current behaviour isn't really helping things). You'll just have to get over this current discomfort for some great future experiences. Especially with the ladies - which I assume you want to get better with.... I'm guessing you aren't slaying pussy left and right? Again, college man. College is the easiest place on earth to get laid.
>>564206830 No, I definitely don't get laid. I'm a complete virgin. I'm not even sure I want to. Sex, kissing, anything involving physical contact just seems extremely awkward to me. I would probably just leave because I can't handle the awkwardness.
>>564207368 Shit son. I'm not sure how to approach this. During undergrad, I had several roommates (all virgins) and things didn't go very well for them. But they never went out, didn't make any effort, and were general sad sacks about it. Awkwardness with sex goes away... the more sex you have. I know that's not very reassuring (like you have to get good at it.... so you can get good at it?) but at least college can offer you many opportunities. You can get in situations where the awkwardness won't be so bad. Go to bars, and to house parties, and get your drink on. Alcohol isn't called liquid courage for nothing, you know.
>>564205941 You can be both introverted and extroverted at the same time. Most people will switch back and forth a few times throughout their lives. Once you've been on both sides of the fence it becomes easy to tell what you currently are in your life as time goes by.
>>564208858 Can't "handle it"? You need to realize this: you're gonna be an awkward-as-hell fuck for whatever girl takes your v-card. But that's okay. My first time was truly sad (don't need to go into it here) but I was 17 and still mostly in my shut-in stage of life (how I managed to have sex is still a mystery to me). I've experienced a lot since then, and it really does keep getting better and better. So don't be afraid to make mistakes - you can't die from an awkardness overload (though it can feel that way sometimes!). How old are you, anyway?
Little background for myself here by the way: 1. 22 years old 2. Grad student 3. Attractive and extroverted (or so I'm told) 4. Only had one "real GF" out of high school (took the v-card) for almost two years 5. Since then I've just had casual hook-ups and FWB relationships because it's easier
>>564210012 I guess you're right. I just kind of know what I am currently comfortable with, and usually don't try to do anything else because I know I'm not good at anything social, especially if it requires physical contact.
1. 19 almost 20. 2. Not in college 3. Not attractive and introverted 4. No gfs
>>564209213 feels funny. everone always liked me where i lievd. then i moved to another place for a year or so and attended some undergrade school or some shit like that. everyone hated me there for no reason. i didnt really care
>>564210884 At first I didn't know WHEN to touch a girl, and forget about HOW they want to be touched. That all took lots of time, patience, trial and error. I'm sure you'd like to change, yeah? As in, you'd want to at least feel comfortable around people, and women in particular. You can do that, but you'll have to get outside your comfort zone. And stop saying things like "I know I'm not good at any thing social" because you'll only reinforce those negative ideas. Your focus needs to shift. Instead you should think in terms of "I AM going to get better at this. I WILL learn new things and have fun". Even when things end badly (awkward situations, etc.) you don't have to treat it like the end of the world. I have been rejected HUNDREDS of times by women, and I chalk up every instance to "learning experience". Even "attractive" guys put themselves out there and miss their mark. We keep going though, because we've learned to handle things differently and use even failure to our advantage.
>What is it like to be attractive? Ehh, feels good when you realize it but most are ignorant to it. >What is it like to be extroverted? Good if you have the right people, the point of being extroverted is to not be alone, and there are those who can make you feel alone no matter where you are
>What is it like to touch a female? Females are awesome, nough said, but can be dirtier then males, and im talking hygiene wise, alot of tgem dont wash the inside of their vagina, im not saying they have to use soap, but at least douche every once in a while. Tight females are the best, it feels like your dick will explode yet you cant pull out, its amazing. And bareback is hands down the best, unfortunately its the only way i can cum so, gotta br sure bout her business.
>>564212216 I know all that. I just have trouble even caring about changing anymore. I've been like this my whole life, it's all I know, and I have become more and more content with what I am. That's probably a bad thing, but it's what I have become. But I guess I can give it a try next year if I go to college.
>>564213352 Dont get me wrong, it takes longer (unless you are a quick shot) to get off but you will be glad in the end. You gotta be in good physical shape though, cus depending on how fast you cum, for me it takes an hour going bareback, in a tight as hell vagina, so by the time im finished, i feel like my legs and hips are jello, unless i drink a 5 hour energy, then i can maybe go twice. Vaginas are simply amazing in the fact that they can take a pounding and keep going, im like 7 inches with 2in girth, 6 in circumference, so i tend to hurt my girl, and afterwards she tells me none for next 4 days, but kinda gives me that satisfaction in the end.
>>564196413 Its alright but you wouldn't be any happier if you were any of those things. I'm extroverted and non-virgin and girls fucking love me. But it doesn't really change how happy I am. Because when it comes right down to it no matter how many girls call me hot I don't validate myself on some level and I have been depressed on and off. Not really right now but my point stands.
>>564214440 I know that feel. Even the "non-virgin girls" thing. I tried dating a girl who turned out to be a virgin, and I had to break it off early because I knew a skullduggerous manwhore like myself would be a bad choice for her first time. Sex is great, in the moment. But once you know how to get it, you find that it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be any happier.
>>564214204 Thank you for letting me know I am not alone it takes me so long to cum too! She always goes first and I feel like shit because I a:half the time don't get to get off and b: feel like an impotent fuck
>>564214983 Dat feel, knowing you dick is broken...... that and my girl makes fun of mine cus of the circumcision, it looks like my dick has a tan line, and freckles on it, so makes fun of that, but i take it out by plowing the fuck outta her
>>564214836 >>564214983 I blame alcohol, circumcision, and maybe too much jerking off! I usually last 30-45 minutes, or up to an hour if I've had some drinks (which is... usually all the time). I used to be super paranoid about cumming too quickly, but now I try and work out positions and tricks etc. that can help me go faster.
>What is it like to be attractive? It's ok, girls often are intimidated by it and don't trust you though and it really sucks when all you want is a stable relationship. Especially when you're a decent fucking person too. I can't tell you how many girls have denied me because I am "too good to be true" and "probably a player"
>What is it like to be extroverted? It's okay, but it can be stressful when you constantly have people trying to contact you and you have shit to do.
>What is it like to touch a female? Not really anything special, I guess. Ever got a hug from your mom? It's like that. Unless you mean sexually, in that case it really depends how good you are.
>>564216480 I did not mean to imply that. And not to change this into a circumcision debate, but I feel I have to right to my foreskin and that I should make the choice, frankenstein dick or not. Most men don't have any medical complications that require circumcision too.
I feel like I just stumbled across a support group or something. I've only been seeing this girl for about a month, she's tight but I take forever to get off, sometimes I don't get off at all. What the fuck is the deal?
>>564217443 Gotta find that one position man, otherwise just keep going at it, unless your girlfriend is a megabitch, which should be cue to breakup, if you make her cum multiple times cus you take so long, they usually make it their personsl mission to make you cum, mine does anyway.
>>564216986 And like, I'm serious about that attractive shit. Maybe I just suck at talking to girls or something but to give you an example, I met this girl out at the bar a few weeks ago and we really hit it off. Hung out several times and we exchanged the fact that we liked each other. Fast forward to two days ago, she stopped being affectionate towards me and told me that she "really can't believe a guy like you is interested in me, and maybe we slow things down /a lot/"
>>564218142 >What is it like to have a good relationship with your family? It's nice. You always have people you can count on, but it's not everything. After a certain age, you are expected to go out and build your own family.
>What is it like to work a job that is challenging and fulfilling? Don't know
>What is it like to take a dump and enjoy it? It's like a huge relief when you finish. You feel like you have empty yourself of something bad and are ready for something good.
>>564217931 Well we've only been at it for a while so we're still kind of in that fiery discovery phase, so she cums like 3 times before I do usually (I don't think that will persist forever though). She's purebred Japanese, when we she's cumming she starts speaking in Japanese it's some good fucking shit.
Last time I made her cum she climbed off of me and sucked my dick for 30 minutes until I came, she swallowed it too, I don't have to worry about her being a selfish bitch.
>>564217936 I've been told I should model, and women don't seem to be intimidated. Hell, every woman I've ever been with has called me a hunk, and expressed that same disbelief that you bring up, but always in a positive way, like how someone might 'not believe' winning the lottery.
>>564217931 As someone who takes forever to cum, this is indeed how women tend to react. I had an ex who straight-up took my difficulty orgasming as a challenge. It was like watching Rocky try to get someone off.
A girl I work with is kinda interested in me. Shes "experienced". Im a virgin loser but she doesnt know that. If I don't bang this girl, I will regret it forever. If I DO bang this girl, I will forever live with the embarrassment of being terrible at sex and possibly people I work with finding out. WHAT DO?? btw 100% srs
>>564219134 >>564219420 Do it. If she really is experienced like you say, she'll catch on pretty quick that you have no fucking clue what you're doing. But that's alright; if she's a half-decent person she shouldn't be too hard on you. She might even get off on it... some gals are into that shit (collecting v-cards).
>>564218923 You have no idea man. What I can't get over is in Japan, women take a subservient attitude when dating, but in the west men do it and we call it being a gentleman. So she insists on pouring my drinks for me, and serving salad onto my plate for me and stuff. When her pupils dilated the first time she touched my dick, she started speaking Japanese again, and when I asked her to say it in English please she said she "couldn't believe how big and hard it is." Of course girls will say these things, but when we had trouble fitting it in I knew she was telling the truth, I felt like a king.
>What is it like to be attractive? kinda what it's like to be unattractive? >What is it like to be extroverted? a lot less boring than introverted i guess >What is it like to touch a female? they feel like, a woman feels like, her brest is like.. feels like... you know, a bag of sand
>>564219727 I work with her on a daily basis. Shes a decent girl but I'm so scared of the embarassment (which is fucking pathetic, I know). I feel I should go try to find a massage parlor that gives handjobs to get used to being touched by someone.
>>564219783 Damn. Closest I've gotten to that is a gal who was 1/4 Japanese (her dad was Japanese, anyway) and she was fantastic. Not so much on the subservient side though... unless you count master/slave play in the bedroom!
>>564220187 Does she only want to fuck and that's it? Why don't you try going on some dates with her and getting to know her a little. If she seems like a bitch I wouldn't fuck her, but if you find yourself really comfortable with her and you begin to trust her than you shouldn't be embarrassed about telling her it's your first time.
>>564220187 Usually I like to follow the "don't shit where you eat" rule of thumb as far as this goes... but then again, you need to get yourself laid son! A better way to think of it is like this: if you are honest with her (and she is a decent person) then she KNOWS you can't be amazing in bed with no experience. Therefore, she shouldn't judge you on that (like I said, sometimes they can even find that shit endearing). Besides, it gives you an excuse to say "well... practice makes perfect!" and have all kinds of sexy times with this girl. I think you should go for it if she wants to do the sex to you. She won't hold your inexperience against you, since you can't help that.
>>564220187 Massage parlor to get used? Fucking stupid idea, that gets out, you're fucked before you fuck. Massage parlor to get loosened up and get a legitimate massage? Yes. To get a hj, no. Drink a five hour energy like 30 mins before, that way you can keep going, you will be nervous as fuck, so whack 1 or 2 out before going at it, makes you last longer, which will faker experience then shell think its natural talent after you tell her it was ur first time.
>>564221274 >>564221172 Thanks guys. Shes confusing. She lives with her mother, I don't think we'd be a good match for eachother as far as dating goes (10 years of depression and 4chan have screwed me up socially). Shes a sweet person but absolutely nutso crazy sometimes. If I just fuck her I'd be another jerk in her life because shes probably looking for a good guy to be a father to her kid...So its complicated. Everytime I see her I wanna bury my face in her crotch or (insert sexual fantasy). But that kind of contact has too many consequences. Maybe I'll meet a random girl somewhere, too bad i detest clubs and bars.
>>564222518 Woah there. You just added some very important details that give me pause. Some major red flags in there buddy. I don't always care about the "she has a kid" thing IF we're keeping it casual (I just never have any interaction with them - they're not my kids). But if you also add into this mix that "this bitch be crazy sometimes" then it worries me. She might not be worth the potential shitstorm. Especially when you can pick up at bars or clubs (yes, even though you detest them).
>>564196413 >Like you are important for no reason and people do nice things for you >To feel like you can strike a conversation with anyone adn not feel weird about it and no awkward silences. >Like you have never felt such soft warm skin in your life and when you hold her it's soft and inviting, like hugging a stuffed animal.
>>564223635 >>564223454 Shes crazy in the sense that shes frightened of lots of stuff, she probably has some schizophrenia or something in her family. Shes complicated is all im saying. I think if she didnt have a kid it would be easier to flirt with her, but I think she has this idea that im this super nice mysterious guy who would never hurt her. I dont even talk to my own folks, I'm as distant and messed up as they come and she thinks im sweet. I just wanna penetrate something so badly, and this girl is fucking with my mind bros because I honestly think Id be crushed more than she would when things eventually didnt work out. I am my own worst enemy. What does it feel like to give no fucks and just go deep inside some sweet sugar walls?
>>564196413 >attractive guys and girls talk to you. or if they're shy, they'll stare. it's easy to lose your virginity. other attractive ppl will be your friends. people will ask if you model.
>extroverted everybody's your friend. people like having you around. you will get lots of invites and go out a lot.
>females sex isn't all it's cracked up to be. it can be good or great or bad or anything else. besides that, ,it is pretty damn important to touch other people or even pet animals nonsexually lmao. you need physical contact and will suffer if you don't.
>>564214440 yes but you have the opposite problem. for me, i was dorky and shy and now that i've conquered those things i've validated myself for overcoming my weaknesses. op is in the same boat that i was and will be a lot happier if he gets it together
>>564225726 Not gonna lie, it feels pretty god-damned amazing. But that only happened for me after getting a lot more experience under my belt. I've learned over time not to get attached to people so easily, so I'm not devastated when things don't work out. I know that there will always be someone else out there. I do get your feeling though "wanna penetrate something real bad" because I can get that way after a dry spell myself. One thing you have to learn though, is not to compromise your standards just to get in "some sugar walls". I still believe quality trumps quantity. Even though I've been getting plenty of both lately ;)
>>564198074 It's great. People are really happy when you walk into their store, asian girls are attracted to you, and police don't assume you are doing something wrong unless you are under 20 or white trash.
The only bad part is you always have to be scared that a black guy or dark skinned mexican are going to rob you.
>>564226336 Maybe I need to start drinking heavily at a bar and fuck some skank on a toilet. I know thats ridiculous but man I don't know how im ever gonna get past this mental block. I have an ok 7" dick thats basically in mint condition and no one has ever seen it. Feels bad man.
>>564198074 Not that good. More than it's hyped up to be. Everybody including your mixed friends think of you as "that white boy".
Also I'll get messed up in every non-western country, which basically means I'm forever stuck in either a concrete glass metropolis or tourist traps. Which really sucks because I want to visit India or Turkey or Malaysia and actually witness their culture for what it is.
I guess I've still eastern Europe though, right...?
>>564227253 Jesus, man. You need to get on that, then. My dick is alright, I guess. It isn't even as big as yours (6.5? ehh I haven't measured since I was a teen) but it gets the fucking job done. Size doesn't really matter anyway... unless you have a fucking micropenis. The "whole package" is what matters; usually this means being generally fit and knowing how to touch a woman. Bonus infinity brownie points for eating her out like a champ (they WILL come back for more when you get this down). I've taken several girls home from bars, and they've all been pretty good. Some even turned into more drawn-out FWB situations for a while. You can do it, man.
>>564228098 thanks man. I think I just need to get out there and see what happens. I don't think i've ever gotten good advice on /b before. I may never know who you are but when i bag my first bar skank I'll be giving you a mental /brofist.
>>564228563 It's a simple numbers game, man. You're going to do just fine. I believe in you.
>>564228557 Wat do? Get off your fucking ass, man. I was a fat introvert virgin at one point too, you know. I actually got a GF and lost the v-card before changing my life around, but that's besides the point. I didn't start bedding multiple women until I got in shape and gave a shit about my appearance. I used to never exercise, but then I hit the gym and did cardio and dropped about 75lbs. You owe it to your health, and to your penis.
>>564229168 Thanks man. I think I will get a bike when I get the money and start riding it around instead of sitting in the house. For now, I will use the stationary bike in the basement and cut down on my meal sizes. Sound good?
>>564230000 >dat get My brother recently moved back in and has made me go out places with him daily (even if we are just walking around kicking the shit) but recently I have been skipping and staying inside. Until he came at the beginning of the month the whole summer has been me sitting inside. Last school (as with every school year) year I had friends but only during school. I rarely went out and socialized.
>>564230038 Sounds like a good place to start. I didn't start working out until I was 20 years old, and I was a lazy piece of shit up until then. To lose all the extra weight initially, I got pretty crazy with my routine. I worked out at least 4 or 5 days a week, and usually did 45 minutes of cardio on top of that each day. I'm not saying you have to do the same, but weights and cardio together really makes a difference (and you feel pretty fucking amazing - dem endorphins though). Another important thing - I cut out all soft drinks from my diet. I used to drink like 8 cans of Coke per day, and I lost 15lbs just from cutting out soda completely. I went from 240lbs to about 165 in 6 months. I'm around 185lbs now after 2 years of exercise and muscle gain. Now I just work on maintaining where I'm at.
>>564230376 Of course my first get is fucking quads on this random thread. That's good that your brother is helping you to put yourself out there. Going out more and socializing will just expand your circle of friends, and allow you to have more opportunities to get rid of that v-card man.
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