I don't understand, /b/.
What does ISIS want?
Why are they killing people again?
Islam is more than a religion, its a whole instruction set to create a country, from contracts to land ownership to laws. Obviously the laws are very iron-age and retarded, but religion being religion uneducated people will follow it and even sacrifice their lives in its name.
ISIS or rather IS wants to create a pure Islamic country, because they are religiously obligated to. That is all, its not complicated.
they are power hungry extremist group . they kill for everything atm trying to make it because religion
may the drone above show them no mercy !
THey want to unite the islamic world under a sunni khalifate and to create a fundamentalist muslim nation, basically they think the rest of the muslim world are wrong in their beliefs and the ISIS is on a mission to set things right.
They're murdering what they call infidels who refuse to convert, or just are traitors to islam in their eyes.
In a nutshell, they're a crazy religious fanatic group.
They are killing "the enemy" which is everyone who isn't part of their organization. They can get away with it because nobody wants to fight those crazy fuckers. So they keep doing it which does a few things for them.
>Reinforces the idea that they are too crazy to fight
>Scares the absolute piss out of everyone who lives near them
>Removes potential enemies from their midst.
This is what Tribal war looks like. When you're part of a tribe, enemy tribes have NO non-combatants. Even children are fair game because they might grow up to oppose you. The men get killed, the women get taken.
The ISIS want to make a superregion of islamic states that stretch from the "stan" countries, India, all of north Africa, and the middle east. But obviously this would never happen originally(these countries governments wouldn't ban together and form it) so the ISIS takes it upon themselves to do it through terrorism.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
THE LEADER OF ISIS IS A MOSSAD AGENT
Muslims are not benefiting from these massacres and fear, but Israel is.
They're doing it for the lulz, really. However, the US government is taking too long to bomb their asses to oblivion and put an end to their bullshit because the US says "civilians".
they are pretty much doing what hitler was doing, except in public.
why arnt we doing anything again? oh, cuz obama promised to remove troops from iraq and it would look bad if he sent them back.
retarded idea to remove them to begin with.
>what does isis want?
an islamic world. NO non muslims PERIOD
> why are they killing people again?
because they are not muslim or not the type of muslim they are (sunni shia, some denomination)
Orly? Jesus fucking Christ nigger, is that the best you can think of?
You haven't really applied your mind to the question at hand have you anon.
Try harder next time. Try engaging brain.
still tho, they are basically Muslim nazis. and considering how long it took for america to get involved with hitler, it seems they have not learned shit.
Defensible platform to resist the existant Shia Islamic state that hypocritically no one has a problem with
More powerful platform to bleed Assad to death, hasn't worked out well so far, but maybe now?
More resilient platform to resist the sickening culture of the west (just look at this site, read the comments, who would not wish to refuse this shit in their culture)?
To be closer to God, seeing as Christianity has failed miserably
It would be much better being an athiest country, right fellow gentleman?
LOL OMG SO FUCKING FUNNY....asshole.
LOL at first obama took credit for removing the troops from iraq whenever he could. They were supposed to be there for a while more. and now hes saying it was bush. man do some research.
they're angsty, jealous faggot muslim scum from the UK and Australia. they're working out a lot of aggression.
by the way fuck you uk/Australia, for this terrorist scum. now WE (the rest of the western world) have to clean up your homegrown mess.
They folow the orders of The Stone.
Ist is written on The Stone.
The population of the world must be reduced to 500.000.000
"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."
They are doing the right thing. Kill and destroy the base of living.
We can't afford to do anything. ISIS learned from previous insurgencies that it costs America/NATO absurd amounts of money to actually try to fight in the middle east. Our equipment costs tons of money, we use massive amounts of energy, even our ordinance is expensive as fuck. If bringing down the West is their primary goal, their best bet is to get us to spend as much money as possible and hope our economy collapses/we back out.
Herp...I don't know what I'm talking about but derp...I'll keep shitposting anyhow.
History will never forgive Obama for supporting the Arab Spring. He will go down as fuck-up and a coward who robotically tried to increase his popularity without thinking about the actual consequences of any of his policies.
These people are the Arab equivalent of rednecks. They have no realistic goals, no concept of government. They're just goons who believe that if they kill enough sinners then their glorious caliphate will magically happen.
Controlling territory requires government. A loose confederation of armed sociopaths who settle their differences with mass executions can't run a stable state. When their cash dries up and the food stores run low because they've killed or scared off too many farmers and ranchers, then they're going to degenerate into a tribal shit-storm and the foreign fighters are going to try and go home where they will face an uncertain future, as nobody wants them to come back.
tl;dr same shit different century
This is what you call a "War Economy" where one creates fabricated wars to boost a private agenda. You supply one side, watch them win, elect a fake dictator, then supply a rebel force against the government you just made to overthrow it, then repeat the process eternally. This is why we will never leave the Middle East. The soldiers, rebels, militants, are mere assets(mercenaries), and the civilians are constantly in a game of tug-o-war.
Examples: Egypt, Lybia, Iraq, possibly Syria in the near future.
>they are products of larger faults in the political and social mechanisms of the middle east.
>In a place where war is commonplace and deep-seated unrepresentation corruption and general exploitation is everywhere
>such violence is inevitable and appears the only option to the individuals that live there.
>It seems really alien from our point of view because we live in countries who have got their shit together
>dont get onboard with just bombing them though, the middle east is an incredibly complex problem which isnt going to be solved by launching missiles at it
This is such cliched bullshit. When the fuck did rednecks try to take over territory and massacre people? Even the people who made the American Civil War happen were wealthy intellectuals trying to defend their assets. Rednecks, morons, losers, racists, don't wage wars. These people are machiavellians. They want power and they see Islam as a good standard to hold given the social dynamics of their region. They probably won't be very successful, but a partial victory or lack of a single crushing defeat probably seems very likely to them if they go big enough, which is not unreasonable.
religious fanatics want all the power to enorse their moral religious laws, now in a killing spread trying to erase any resistance, doing this in an already religious corrupt country = good example of the human stupid ways of atrocity and disrespect to life = everything that is wrong with people = why good people don't fight bad people all over the world
pic not related
Because that's all that their culture and their religion tells them to do. Convert your enemies, or kill them. They're like the Borg, only with rocks and AKs instead of kick-ass super technology.
yupp, if catgirls existed we would all be too busy fucking them
Why has so much violence and terrible shit come from the middle east
Is it something about the desert that just makes yiu want to kill everything?
They have a better ISIS
You know how you play Age of Empires, and you want to cut mad wood and mine crazy gold and harvest mental food and slice uber rocks so you can dominate your enemy?
Well do you kill only your enemy soldiers? Or do you kill their villagers as well?
Of course you kill it all. you mine that mad gold (fuck me its mad oh yeah pussy yeayh) then you buy cavalray and fuck that shit. you dont think about the houses and villagers, you just fuck them up because you are blue and they are red/yellow/brown or some other heathen color
you give them the full blast WOLOLOOOOO and anyone who doesnt convert gets fukt in the anus by your hoplites.
well, you may be cum drenched at ur keybawd and fucking up hans in konigsberg because he doesnt know hittites seige strat or sucks with house walls....
but its just a game, for you and Hans.
for ISIS/IS/Mudslimes in general.... they play real life as if it was AoE.
they really DO want to wipe out everyone. they really DO want to make sure their color (brown? black?) is the only one left on the map
they treat this like real life and they live it. the only difference is that when you play AoE as a game you can reach the iron age.
the mudslimes are forever stoneage
not matter how many pepperoni pizzas
The US and its allies funded a group of militants to pose as "The Real Muslim Threat" while reporting sensationalist "news" to the unknowing west, in order to derail any hope of muslim foreign intervention for Gaza and the West Bank and to give Israel another Boogeyman to tell it's citizens they are in danger from.
Or its legit and were all fucked.
Money and Power
Don't let the religion angle fool ya. It's all about money, controlling the resource and power, controlling the people
That's like the pitch books made by investment bankers to get more money from rich investors who so believe in the 'cause'
Bless you. I dunno why nor believe in any blessing entity.
Our countries have gotten their shit together because of several periods of rapid social change though. It seems that this change must be forced on the Islamic world as it was on British colonies. What these countries need is somewhat benevolent but firm and harsh government. This could come from external rulers if the modern world weren't so full of anti-imperalist shit. That is the solution to the Lucas Paradox, which is the real problem here.
Catgrils do seem to promote some sort of global peace
The goal isnt the Control of a region, its to "Purify" a region enough that the only people left in it are proud muslims that don't have to listen to non muslim dogmatic theology
Their leader "Abu Bakar Al Baghdadi" apparently is a descendent of prophet Mohammed. Muslims believe in a prophecy where the descendent of Mohammed will return before the end of days, naturally Muslims all over the world are scared and want to go heaven by pledging allegiance to Mr Baghdadi. Of course there are those that do it for the virgins but let's not get into that.
they're mad because they cant eat bacon.
The intellectuals behind ISIS aren't a part of ISIS. Intellectuals aren't well known for direct action. Intellectuals who want power usually figure out what motivates the ignorant and disenfranchised and then use that to their own ends.
In the American Civil War it wasn't wealthy intellectuals trying to defend their assets that lined up for the bayonet charges. It was the average Johnny Reb who had been fed patriotic nonsense about protecting his women and honor. Those guys went out and died in droves to protect some other assholes right to own slave plantations. Most of those white men in the Southern armies wouldn't have meant shit to their commanders before the war when they weren't needed. Why would they have? The wealthy intellectual elite of the South disdained their poor white neighbors so much that they would have rather owned slaves than give their less fortunate white neighbors good wages.
That's why ISIS are a bunch of rednecks. They're more than likely proxies for someone else's agenda that has fuck all to do with establishing a true Caliphate.
there has been no example in history ever where foreign occupies have improved things in countries
only the inhabitants of a country can liberate themselves
how big is your collection of cat girls anon?
yo watch this
its honestly true, all occupation is a farce, its nothing to do with the interests of the people that live there
it does nothing but harm
My kemonomimi folder is currently around 600 files.
If you want to remake history think about the current state of irak if you didn't went off and killed Hussein
yep that's right there would be no ISIS fag
how can one not like catgirls
nice thx to you i have expanded mine
to all guys posting catgirls/animal themed girls:
shame on you... i know you want to derail that thread but you are WASTING SO MUCH POTENTIAL people who would love to save your pictures... seriously... make 100 new threads if you want to kill such threads as this... much more effective
Of course the fighters are stupid. Most fighters are stupid. By the same reasoning, you could say that Hannibal's armies, the Allied powers in World War 2, or for that matter, the people fighting ISIS, are just a bunch of rednecks because most of the soldiers don't fight for their own reasons but are led to fight for others because they aren't wealthy or intellectual. All you're really saying when you say "These people are the Arab equivalent of rednecks" is that the fighters who happen to serve ISIS are ordinary people who can easily be manipulated. My point was that the only people who matter at all are certainly not rednecks, which is also usually the case. The leadership and benefactors who actually cause this violence to continue have their own motives which bear no resemblance to those of rednecks. This is not caused by rednecks. The conflict doesn't exist because of rednecks. It exists because of opportunistic intellectuals. If rednecks were the weak link, then there would be people getting massacred everywhere because there are stupid people everywhere.
but...what about world peace??
seriously? no... seriously? you should know how the human brain/society works... there will NEVER be any sort of piece... WE ARE DEFUNCT regarding that
When ISIS take a big group of people to execute in a line or something why do the people just sit there? they're going to die, so why not atleast try and fight back?
but see >>564124340
i belive this can be achived with the fundings of all nations to create them.
I actually cited a specific counter-example in my other post. The Lucas Paradox is the observation that capital doesn't flow from first world countries to third world countries. The exception is that it does in former British colonies. This is likely because of the imbalanced partnership-like arrangement the British established with the regions they dominated. There certainly is evidence that those areas were concretely helped by British occupation. Britain coercively established good infrastructure and brought on social change that led to significant economic growth over time.
That's irrelevant. I'm not talking about liberation. I'm talking about using force to coerce people to do what leads to growth and stability. Forcing, with violence if necessary, the closure of Muslim extremist facilities such as certain schools and mosques would be one possible example.
I used to want to nuke the middle east, and then I realized how many muslims there are in the western world. That wouldn't go over well.
Probably best to sit the fuck back and watch them destroy themselves instead.
The modern world moves onto Civ, and learns to get along. The middle east plays AoE, thinking they can make everyone else stop playing Civ. But most people just want to play Civ. AoE is a fucking great game though
Try this from Aljazeera, it'll certainly give you a clearer idea than most of the knee jerk crud you're getting on here:
They probably kill someone's wife and child first and tell the others that if they don't just sit there they'll do the same to their wives and children. Then, after they kill all the guys in the line, they rape all the women and kids and kill a few of them just for lulz anyway.
Your tinfoil hat is slipping a bit.
Clearly giving weapons to the Iraqi government, and then said weapons fall into the hands of IS benefits no one in the American government. Also, why is the US government bombing it's own operatives?
It's pretty clear to me that neither westerners nor jews are profiting or succeeding due to IS actions.
3/10 for making me respond if bait
>edgy teenager detected
Are you implying that IS members do not participate in drug usage, rape, and a culture that promotes an unfair and unequal society?
1/10 for clearly being bait