Shinsuke Nakamura > Kazuchika Okada > Tomohiro Ishii >

>>3019602
p good aside from nakamura at the top, obviously

Switch Naito and Omega around and you got yourself a deal

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>>3019602
Not even close.

Shibata over all of those jabronies

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>actually thinking all those scrubs are better
Lol no

>>3019634
No one said anything about Misawa

>>3019634
Based Misawa

>>3019602
wtf are we talking about? best wrestler? best matches? biggest draw? most Meltzer snowflakes? most important to NJPW?

Go Ace

>>3019655
Best wrestler and best matches

>>3019634
Misawa is better than anyone listed except for Okada and Omega.

>>3019672
>Misawa is better than anyone listed
Correct, no need for anything else

>>3019688
Except for Okada and Omega. Sorry, he has been passed over by the new GOATs
Familiar with his work, too. He's number 3 right behind them

>>3019602
Nakamura is a better wrestler than Tanahashi. Everyone knows this. Why do Nu Japan fans try and deny this?

>>3019696
lmao jesus christ, fuckin edrones

>>3019696
Because they fell for the "Tanahashi is the Ace" storyline and because Nakamura is great and made him look good, because that was his job.

>>3019694
I like Okada and Omega, but Misawa is on a whole different level.

>>3019714
*was on a whole different level, before their trilogy showed they were there, too.
It's okay, it's a familiar process. It's difficult to conceive when new guys appear that challenge the set standard. In a few years time, goggles of retrospect, we'll accept them as true GOATs.

>>3019726
Nah, in a few years you will accept you overrated them. It's perfectly natural. When you have fresh new people come in and do a hell of a show, it can be easy to forget the old greats you're used to.

>>3019602
Tanahashi is legitimately one of the greatest pro wrestlers who has ever lived. Your list is flawed.

>>3019726
Controversial opinion, but Omega v Okada 1 > 3 >>> 2 and none of them are 5 stars.

>>3019729
Nope, this is the process. Okada/Omega will become the new platinum standard.
Not to mention the genuinely dangerous manner in which Misawa and co. wrestled definitely knocks them down a few points, which I'm letting slide as a byproduct of the time's style.

>>3019732
That's not really controversial that's just bad.

>>3019732
In my opinion family to be honest, 3 can't be rated over 1 or 2 because it needs the context of the first two.

>>3019751
By that logic, no sequel can be rated below the predecessor under any conditions.

>>3019760
Lemme rephrase.

Without the context of the first two, just looking at them all as matches in a vacuum, III is not as good. It only reaches truly next level status with the other two when you have that extra context.

>>3019634
>muh forearm gook

lmao okada shits out better matches than this dead nip and doesnt legit kill himself doing it
wasnt even the best dude from his era either

>>3019706
>E-drones

How to spot the Nu Japan fan. Nakamura was a fucking godsend for NJPW and pushed every other wrestler (including Tanahashi) to be a better performer.

>>3019782
08 Nakamura, to be precise

>>3019782
>nakadrones

>>3019751
This. The matches make sense as a progression within a rivalry. There's an escalation of stakes and outside factors.

>>3019760
Yrd, it why sequels in any medium are inherently weaker. It's rare to see them transcend predecessors outside of videogames, which makes sense from an iterative tech perspective.

>>3019782
lolno Tana GOAT
Nakamura's fine but he never fucked with based ace

>>3019797
Proud Nakadrone here. Great wrestler.

>>3019602
Switch Okada and Nakamura. Switch Ishii and Naito.

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>>3019602
>Naito at very bottom and below FUCKING Omega

>>3020499
Omega is great

>>3019602
None of them are in the top 50 draws in the history of Japan, you're literally rooting for gooks even Japan doesn't care about

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>>3019820
He sure is, bud

>>3021808
>NJPW's biggest year ever

Okada is #1 objectively seethe harder oldrone

>>3021817
hahahahaha, objectively false

>>3019602
Switch Okada and Nakamura and you are right.

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Naito>Okada>Omega>Ishii>Tanahashi>Nakamura

Nakamura would be higher if not for his main roster run.

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>>3021808
>>3021808
TV ASAHI TOP 20 WRESTLING ELECTION

20) Andre the Giant
19) Togi Makabe
18) Hulk Hogan
17) Masahiro Chono
16) Shinya Hashimoto
15) Kenny Omega
14) Genichiro Tenryu
13) Kenta Kobashi
12) Keiji Mutoh
11) Riki Choshu
10) Stan Hansen
09) Mitsuharu Misawa
08) Jushin Thunder Liger
07) Jumbo Tsuruta
06) Hiroshi Tanahashi
05) Rikidozan
04) Kazuchika Okada
03) Tiger Mask I (Satoru Sayama)
02) Giant Baba
01) Antonio Inoki

>>3021819
ya seething

>>3021829
I find it kinda cute that so many nips are behind Kenny, but all in all he shouldn't be on that list

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>>3021829
Wow the guys in everyone's minds are up front, the facts are facts they aren't as big as they used to be

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>>3021829

It really blows my mind how much people underrate Naito. What more do they need from the guy? He is the most over guy in the company and has been for a long as fuck time. Not only does he have the best character work in all of NJPW, if not the world, but his ability to have great matches is on the same level as Omega and Okada, who are considered the best in the world.

Can someone explain to me why he's almost universally considered to be below Omega and Okada?

>>3021848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwZPVHnEe28

It was list was decided by fan votes.

Omega got a lot of votes.

>>3021850
BIGGEST
YEAR
EVER
BASED OKADA

>>3021862
I mean you can type in all caps, it still isn't though

>>3021864
odrone nostalgiafag reduced to a seething spluttering mess before the dimesmaker carrying new japan to new heights

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>>3021829
>Okada ahead of Kobashi
What did they mean by this?

>>3021867
have fun with your 25,000 people at the Tokyo Dome one (1) time a year lmao

>>3021875
odrone seething

>>3021861
Jurina is such a mark.

>>3021883
Seek oxygen, you're repeating yourself and making zero sense

>>3021870
they meant the dimesmaker is a bigger draw than kuckbashitter

>>3021887
odrone seething

>>3021891
give me your address, I'll slice your fucking head off

>>3021893
SEETHING

>>3021899
thought so, bitch

>>3021909
ya seethin

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>>3021893
>>3021899
>>3021909
>>3021923

>>3021936
nice fuckin thumbnail dumb CIMA poster

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>>3021957
why so angry?

>>3021957
seethin perhaps?

>>3021851
I don't know man. Ibushi v. Naito was probably my favorite match of the G1. (False finish aside)

He's been to the top of thr mountain, so I wonder if they're trying to let him simmer so he can be huge and get his due when he gets back to the top. Building EVIL as a possible opponent is an interesting angle for that.

>>3021813
Such a good reign. He had, like, what, 8 defenses? Around there, and they were all great matches.

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>>3021851
>It really blows my mind how much people underrate Naito. What more do they need from the guy?
I just need him to have one good match, ever, in his life.

He's so fucking boring in the ring.
>MFW watching Naito matches

>>3023244
Not enough over the top expressions for you?

>>3023276
His moveset sucks, for one.