WWE's financial help is completely dependent on the 2019

Hopefully they get a really shitty deal in 2019 and it lights a fire under their ass.

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SAY IT WITH ME.

RECORD

>>2988292
>200 million dollar loan
What the fuck could they possibly need a 200 million dollar loan for?

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>>2988292
>B-B-BUT WWE DRAWS MORE DIMES THAN GOOK WRESTLING
E-drones btfo eternally.

Nothing's gonna happen, things will continue as usual.

CAN 2019 JUST COME ALREADY?

>>2988292
>fake news

>>Football Season begins in less than 1 month on September 7th, 2017.
The NFL's going to obliterate its own ratings.

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>>2988292
If the ratings stay low they're going to get a shitty deal, it's as simple as that. They really don't have the leverage to get a favorable deal, given the ratings and financials. The trend shows it will only get worse between now and then too, unless something drastically changes, which we can all assume is unlikely. Sad times for the "big company"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkEA8odufTE

Here's a quick discussion on yesterday's WOL with Midget Alvarez talking about WWE's financial crisis. He makes a very good point.

>"Now, in 2019, they gotta get a new deal. And meanwhile, they're gonna go before USA Network and go y'know, probably by that point 33% since we signed this last deal and we want more money but hey, lots of people watch us on Youtube. How do you think that's gonna fly?"

E-Drone logic absolutely blown to pieces.

>>2988311
Steak wraps and snow cones.
And the Corporate jets.
Won't pay for the wrestler's travel expenses or health insurance, but we gotta have those TWO corporate jets pal god damn.

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>>2988325
>le fake news
>I am delusional and refuse to acknowledge reality
>I'll just stick my head in the sand & create my own reality!!
Is this what "winning" really looks like?

It's funny enough listening to idiots fantasy book wrestling. It becomes obvious how truly clueless most hardcore fans are about it. But reading their financial analysis takes the cake. This applies to the F4W crowd too.

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>>2988354
Please if you're a Liberal stop watching NJPW, you make us look bad online

>>2988333
Trips of truth and lmfao at this E Drone caller getting blown the fuck out by Alvarez

>>2988354
fuck off you liberal cuck

this board is bad enough with the console wars shit

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>>2988357

Oh, really? Why don't you enlighten us, E-drone? Come on, we're all ears. Go on, tell me why you aren't fucked when the only reason the WWE is even alive is because of the TV deal only to set record low ratings (Which will ONLY get lower starting in September) for 2017.

WWE fans should be ecstatic about this. If WWE doesn't attempt to turn the product around with impending doom, then they might as well close up shop.

>>2988299
They got a lowball on their last deal and by the time 2019 negotiations start they'll have lost over 2 million viewers

>>2988333
why the fuck do e-drones always revert to the >muh youtube views argument? Are they seriously that retarded? Floundering for any sort of leverage even if it makes no sense? Sad.

Raw is going to be moved from Monday.

It's their only shot

wwe made the mistake every media company has done

"well yeah the ratings are down but look at these tweets"

It doesnt matter how many fucking followers you have on twitter because low ratings doesnt get you adbuys you dumb fucks

are there any shows on USA that do better numbers than RAW?

>>2988292
>First off, I'd recommend listening to the Wrestlenomics podcast by Chris Harrington if you're into in-depth discussion and analysis of WWE's finances.
Jesus Christ. No fucking thanks.

>>2988625

This wasn't my post, I dragged it straight from circlejerk.

>>2988562
More like Roman is going to be moved from Monday.

>Roman gets drafted to NXT
>Loses to Aleister Black clean

>>2988782
BLACKED

>>2988599
It reminds me of the tumblr consensus with comicbook superheroes and the sort, lots of people there like to post that stuff and do the cosplays but they don't buy the comics.

>>2988358
woah we'll look bad online to a bunch of trumptards, the horror

>>2988800
GHETTO GAGGERS
stop watching vanilla porn snowflake

>>2988925
...it's a play off his name, idiot

>>2988821
Comics are down 25% from 2016 too.

they still get good ratings compared to other shows

USA will give them more money or someone else will trust me

>>2989167
They don't even get good ratings compared to Love & Hip-Hop

>>2988614
Not even close.

>>2988599
Twitter destroyed the media. The old men running the networks tried to be hip by using this new thing called the internet but like they're out-of-touch they didn't realize the retweets come from weirdos that alienate the normal people.

>>2989280
They get higher ratings than that show every single week. It just usually beats Raw in the 18-49 demographic...

>>2989317
Which is the largest and most important one...

>>2989328
And they are always right behind it, sometimes even #1.

>Are they FUCKED

This one. They've spent the past 15 years driving away their viewership and destroying their cultural relevance in the name of becoming more "advertiser friendly". You don't recover from that overnight.

As things stand, they haven't even taken the first steps to recovery: End the PG era, and give the wrestlers an outline rather than a script. Just remember that there's always a home for things that are controversial so long as they're sufficiently popular, and that controversy is good so long as it makes your product look interesting. You can't say the same for a sanitized """safe""" product that nobody cares about.

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>>2988292
Ding-Dong Diddlyno more midgets on tv.

Without memeing, shitposting, or trolling, list exactly what can save WWE by 2019

>>2989738
White bigmen with charisma and mic skills. But not too big. Below 6 foot 6.

A new hook. New pop culture, a new wrestling style.

>>2989750
Hogan, pls

>>2989738

A miracle on the scale of SCSA, combined with changing the environment so that such a star could actually rise.

Realistically, it's too short of a time period to recover from the damage that they've done to their viewership. They've had over a decade to listen to a non-stop flow of good advice from both fans and industry legends. They responded with a mixture of laughter and "muh ad bucks". Now they sink.

>>2989754
Nobody said anything about hogan.

Only a moron mark thinks equality works in wrestling or that wwf 80s and attitude didn't used pop culture trends to get over.

Both eras changed wrestling styles.

History, sceince and facts prove this. Not homoerotic feelings.

Booking is relative, some NWA fans think wwe booking was always wonky, full of plotholes, dropped shit, Cringe moments.

>>2989738
All the wonderful talent being developed in NXT!

>>2988292
Maybe they'd have more profit if they didn't hire "talent" just so other promotions can't use them.

>>2989766
>Hottest product white now features a multitude of jap twinks

>Thinks white bigmen is the answer

But no, Terry, do continue

>>2988311
Trips and Stef, Shane and Vince are backstage at every TV show.

Did you know they all have their own private jets and charge the company for the travel?

That's why.

>>2989778
If it is so hot how comes they dont sell many seats?

>>2989303
so they'll probably get the same deal. hell they might get more.

>>2989765
The thing that sucks is that WWE was literally handed this three times in the form of Ryder, Punk, and Bryan but failed to capitalize on either man's momentum, snuffing out their white hotness even.

WWE really deserves to die

POST YOUR SPRING CLEANING WISHLIST

>>2989792
Dunn

>>2989778
Hottest in Japan. Are you fucking retarded ? When has twinks ever created a boom period or mainstream in USA history? Austin was 6 foot 1.

Plus Njpw tv rating are dog shit nowadays and can't out do the 90s attedences . Plus women and kids are the biggest part of Njpw.

Why are Indy manlet /Tna fans are so retarded?

Don't even mention mma and boxing, both have divisions.

>>2989792
>Ziggler
I want him in Japan
>Revival
I know it's bad form to fire your injured lads, but they're overworked in WWE and their style is too hard to be wasted in house shows
>205 Live's entire roster minus Neville
In particular I want Noam Dar to go back to ICW where he was actually good

>>2988292
Bring back CM PLUNK

>calls booker t a nigger
>gets taken down and pummeled
>punk shakes his hand afterward

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>>2989738
Unless Vince steps aside and there is a entire change top to bottom on WWE's current philosophy about ""sports entertainment"" there's really not much they can do. We'll possibly see WWE scale down even more, booking smaller venues on the road and sticking to larger places when it's about the 3 shows that really count: Rumble, Mania and Summer Slam (Survivor Series isn't important these days)

>>2989789

Cena could have helped to stop and reverse the downfall in the first place IF THEY'D JUST TURNED HIM HEEL SO THAT HE COULD GROW ORGANICALLY. Instead, if there was one wrestler who's face I would put on a poster for the downfall of the WWE, it would be his. You can't force feed your viewership something that they don't want night after night and expect them to stick around.

WWE is a prime example of what happens when you sacrifice tomorrow's stable foundation for a quick buck today. I bet that the t-shirt sales of 2006 are the last thing on their minds right now. If they could trade them to keep the fans that they lost in that time period, and subsequently, the eyeballs of the children born in that time, I'm sure that they would do it in an instant.

>>2989804
Austin was barely 6' flat in boots

>>2989766
>Attitude Era "didn't used" pop culture trends to get over

18+

>sceince

Another thing is that when wwe downsizes its roster they're gonna feed already made superstars to the Indies.

>>2989892

They didn't lose fans in 2006 idiot. The casuals left en masse in 2001/2002 way before Cena showed up.

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>>2991708
Steve Austin was 6'2 and 250lbs in his prime but now he's 6'1 due to neck and knee surgeries. He said this on his podcast. As you can see in pic Austin makes normal sized men look small.

>>2993271
those are not normal sized men, only manlets get into stronk fitness competitions

>>2993303

There is nothing manlier than strength competitions. It is in our genes to seek to be stronger.

>>2989786
i watch some USA shows and RAW but I always stream them on hulu since i dont want to organize my life around a tv show

>>2988925
is ghetto gaggers still around?

>>2989738
Raw is TV14 Smack is PG

>>2993259

They didn't all leave at once to give us the audience and cultural relevance that the company has today, dumbass, and it's easier to pull an audience back in when they still haven't completely purged the habit of watching your show from their minds.

2006 WWE probably could have recovered in two years.
2017 WWE is in the process of getting blasted back to the days where it looked like they were on their death bed.

>>2993271
Many fans are retards.

>People in this thread don't know about USA and almost every other networks incredible ratings dip.

Yeah the products shit, yeah the ratings are down, but cable networks will do a lot to get ratings as high as WWE consistently produces (even the small amount they are now), especially in the time when ratings are down for almost everything almost everywhere.

Networks are desperate for programming that drives ratings, and can bring in big sponsors, the kind the E has been getting since they went pg.

>>2993407

What makes you think that such networks make for a stable home? TV is only staying afloat off of pure momentum at this point.

You're also ignoring the pathetic arena attendance.

>>2993419

Which is exactly the point. Almost every professional sport has seen a dip in both ratings, and attendanc. Including the big 3 sports in america. However all of them have continued to sign monster tv deals over and over and continue to do so. For as bad as it seems for the E, networks are even more desperate and our willing to do just about anything to get consistently large ratings. Which WWE (even doing terrible business) still provides.

>>2989738
Pretty much a miracle. Reminds me of back in 1997 when they had to take loans to stay afloat then.

>>2989738
Literally storylines that make sense

Vince is going to let it die so that Steph or Paul don't get their hands on it.

>>2988333
hahahaha the fucking state of E drones

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>>2988378
Because they're all dumb ass cult members lmfao