Gone in 10 seconds – Chinese MMA fighter wipes floor with ‘thunder-style’

>>2604788
>>/b/
>>/asp/

Thanks

>Tai Chi
>He stumbles around waving his arms in front of his face for two seconds
I wonder why he didn't do too well.

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>>2604788
Look at those chompers, wouldn't let her love me long time.

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>>2604790
>wololo
reminds me of a lanket tbqhfam, floppy arms and legs everywhere and no tanky core like the manlet master race

MMA is also absolutely gay compared to a real Mans sport like Pankration. And why is this on /pol/? *sigh* (you)

so boxing beats gook gymnastics, color me surprised

>>2604788
>Tai Chi
Wing Chun, Shao Lin or Hung Kuen is your legit traditional martial arts.

Tai Chi is only the prep work to practice martial arts.

>>2604788
>beating the shit out of your opponent works better than inviting him to a meditative dance
>especially when you have a 40lbs advantage
who woulda thunk.

Lmao this guy is a fraud right?

>constantly practice all moves in slow motion
>surprised when slow motion moves cant keep up with fast paced attacks

>>2604793
Well imagine my shock

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Boxing is literally the best martial art for self defense.

>related: based black man

>>2604788
>Train to manipulate base humans, their pressure points and center of gravity

>Train to destroy high level humans, attack their pressure points while both go through nerve deadening beat downs, learn to fight regardless of position

Really photosynthesized my algae.

>>2604799
>rules based fighting
Its like bringing a sword to a gunfight.

>>2604796
No, he's a real tai chi practitioner. It just turns out that martial arts are garbage unless you spar against opponents. And not opponents who play by the same rules you play by.

Two peoe fighting in the same style won't take advantage of that style's weaknesses.

>>2604799
You have to go back

>>2604803
>implying all of burgerland's athletes aren't black

interesting but belongs on a different board

>>2604788
>tai chi
I'm sure beating a yoga teacher prroves lots of things.

>>2604788
Martial arts sure help when 6 big black guys with knives and a gun surround you, xiao yun will save you.

This is BS, Tai Chi is the pre-requisite to learning the chinese martial art.
It's literally meditation, and trains you to get the most power out of every strike.
Lets see this stupid chink go up against a real martial art like Pankration, Wing Chun, Hapkido, Boxing man i can go on and on.
Shit smells staged.
Also Boxing is probably the best street fighting martial are you can learn, if any anons are wondering.

Who learns tai chi for defense anyway? It might as well be yoga.

>>2604801
It's literally learning to hook people in the gabber whilst avoiding being hooked yourself, and it's comparatively quick to learn.
You can't go far wrong with it when it comes to self defense

>>2604799
we all know that latvian chi boxing is the best

>>2604810
>boxing
Because every martial arts style teaches you the basics of countering such an approach?

>>2604788
He's going to be revenged by one of his students.

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>>2604808
>Lets see this stupid chink go up against a real martial art like
>Hapkido

>>2604799
its easier to learn, but it has no ground, so it has weaknesses

>>2604812
Yeah but we aren't typically having to defend ourselves against someone who is trained, just some faggot who thinks he's hard and fancies havin a go

>>2604792
Pankration' dead u retard

Saged

>>2604801
more like bringing zweihander to a swiss army knife fight

This is all well and good, but no real application in the reality of the streets. In common practice, street fights basically boil down to who launches the first punch, which is oftentimes a sucker punch.

Growing up in a black neighborhood, I learned very early on never to let them get the first punch, and always be on guard for the black boy sucker punch.

>>2604799
This is actually true - almost always street fight takes place at the standing ground and without using kicks so even when you're trained mma fighter you usually try to solve the fight with fists maybe sometimes with some front kick because it's most convenient and you don't expect other guy to be trained boxer and you get knocked out because good boxer is almost always going to win hand to hand battle with anyone. In a situation when mixed fighter knows that the other guy knows only boxing then it's most likely going for the mma guy in my opinion

b-bruce lee could beat anyone no matter the size!

>>2604820
And also -it's just simple so you can master it more proficient

>>2604799
He will get destroyed by furry.

>>2604788

he didn't do too bad on footwork or blocking at all, but he had zero counterstrike, takedown defense or ground game.

honestly I'm relatively impressed by his movement fundamentals, if it were striking only he could have held out for a long time

>>2604816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGL_vNtelrM

>>2604788
>Tai Chi
Literally a meme fighting style.

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Boys just learn how to stab/pummel them down and you're good, the rest is achieving discipline and know how.

Scariest bastards I ever knew used elements from martial in their technique, but not the full deal.

Go look at CQC and the styles/techniques the various SoF guys use, THAT is your murderfist style you want apparently.

Life is not a kung fu movie, but neither is it a bullish brawl, it's all about balance. Like I said if you want to see the "real deal" look at American/British/Russian special forces technique.

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>>2604788

Learn how to kick box, learn Sambo

Invincible

>>2604821
Bruce Lee's style was more like MMA than anything at the time lel

Not to say he developed some magical way to victory, but he had the most "modern" sort of style at the time when he developed it, guy knew what he was doing.

>>2604810
Big glove vs small/no glove styles.

Most boxing requires your dominant hand to the rear in order to maximize power and get a knockout with those fuckhuge gloves on. Small glove/no glove doesn't require as much power, and allows for more varied styles.

A big exception to boxing is vasyl lomechenko. He uses a fencing style that leads with his right hand, and uses it to gauge distance, much like Bruce Lee.

Whenever he fights against traditional boxers they don't know what's going on, and his footwork is astounding.

There is no best style. Only ways to beat other styles. It's all rock paper scissors and cortisol management.

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>>2604824
>he didn't do too bad on footwork or blocking at all, but he had zero counterstrike

Dude this guy was knockout in 10 secounds.no chance

>>2604788
This is propaganda. I saw a Tai Chi rip a guys arm off.

>>2604820
Wrong.

Most street fights get to the ground in a matter of seconds.

If you wanna be a true master of self defense then master BJJ and know the basics of Kung Fu

>>2604831

He didn't get hit or go off his feet until they went down. he could have run away forever if not for the takedown

>>2604792
CENTER
OF
GRAVITY

>>2604797
>>constantly practice all moves in slow motion
>>surprised when slow motion moves cant keep up with fast paced attacks
>>2604794
>Tai Chi is only the prep work to practice martial arts.

Tai Chi is incredibly effective if trained properly. These Chen guys are not trained properly, they've gone from being the biggest badasses in central China to this garbage. That faggot has clearly never sparred.

>>2604836
>Tai Chi is incredibly effective if trained properly
Can you post a single example of this? I've heard this bullshit spouted now and then, but nobody trained in "effective" tai chi seems to get into matches with other practical martial arts styles.

>>2604788
>tai chi vs MMA fighter
This is like a boxer beating the shit out of his wife's yoga instructor and then everybody claiming yoga is worthless. One is a fighting sport, and the other is a healthful activity.

>>2604834
footwork was shit thats why he went down on the first one tho

>>2604833
you need both, grappling and striking.
most of all, you need to get used to getting punched in the head without getting disoriented, shocked or freaked out.

>>2604810
till you get put on your ass and get the living fuck beaten out of you, maybe even killed, boxing is fucking useless and it's all fixed.

>>2604788
There is no debate at all. Everyone with at least some knowledge in fighting knows that Boxing and wrestling will beat anything else hands down.

That said, they require serious commitment and serious injuries and concussions are unavoidable as you practice, while some more traditional fighting schools like Karate, taequondo and kung-fu will still help you without a loss of time and health.

>>2604812
lol even if you can counter it the sheer speed and power behind a boxers punch will leave you helpless against it

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>>2604788

Implying a gentleman trained in the noble art of savate wouldn't wipe the floor with them.

>>2604836
Yeah, Ip man was a great movie, but even when taken seriously the main benefit of tai chi-like styles were how different it was from the rigid karate of the invaders.

Doing something your opponent hasn't trained for is very effective. That doesn't mean that you can't take any style to it's extreme. Masutatsu Oyama is a great example of taking karate to it's extreme. His exhibitions against 300 other fighters, as well as killing bulls in a single blow earned him the nickname "Godhand."

>>2604794
>Wing Chun, Shao Lin or Hung Kuen is your legit traditional martial arts.
All equally useless

>>2604844
HUZZAH! I have thus created a DISTRACTION!

>>2604788
>has set off a debate
This debate started and ended decades ago right with the beginning of Mixed Martial Arts. It started with Bruce Lee's admission there there is no perfect style of traditional martial arts and that you can only progress as a martial artist by taking the best techniques from multiple styles and that train of thought is reflected in the MMA we see today.

If you're an MMA fighter you still train in single discipline styles like boxing, muay thai, kickboxing, wrestling, judo, and brazillian jiu-jitsu, and you blend those techniques in MMA. There is no "style" of MMA it's just a ruleset.

>>2604812
>tackle your opponent like a gay nigger
if anyone tried to waste their time and kick me in a fight I would literally kill them

shit wouldn't work. boxing > all

>>2604788
Tai Chi has always been considered a joke in the martial arts world, only gullible fools that believe in magic are taken in by it.

>>2604812
You know why you can get away with kicking like a fucking retarded faggot in MMA?

Because headbutts are illegal. It's pussy shit.

>>2604788

>tai chi
>expecting a largely defensive art to deal with a largely offensive art

also, nothing to do with politics. enjoy your ban

>>2604788
even street fighters don't hit when the opponent is on the ground. pathetic.

>>2604788
Weren't traditionnal martial arts already been proven obsolete during the 80's MMA ultimate fighting craze? Gracie family and all that...

>>2604837
Will try to find a video but the combination I'm familiar with is:
Yang style Tai Chi (not that Chen crap of questionable lineage, basic 24 posture is basic and good)
San Shou/Sanda
Shuai Jiao

Tai Chi normally provides an amazing base, rooting, mechanics, etc. That guy was a complete fuckup, and even then had apparently had some San Shou training which makes this even more pitiful.

>>2604830
what the fuck are you talking about.

you don't punch harder with gloves off. you punch harder with gloves on.

look up art "one glove" jimmerson as an example of a fighter who brought a boxing glove into an MMA fight for retarded reasons, but the reason being because you can punch harder with the glove on.

the stance you are describing is just converted southpaw.

>>2604799
>based black man

No such thing.

>>2604855
Tai Chi is probably the highest movement art in the world.

Anyone who knows Tai Chi will automatically be better than anyone else who doesn't at near any physical activity involving balance.

>>2604799
FOCKING BAYSHED

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>>2604854
>Gracie family and all that...

This. For those of us who were doing traditional MA back in the day, UFC 1 changed everything.

>>2604858
Great description.

This is what Tai Chi should look like in the ring. Note classic moves like the hook-foot trip and other standing takedown attempts. Also, smoking hot ring girls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y24difib7ro

>>2604827
this, we used to beat the shit out of each other all the time in the service, but only in our spare time, and we couldn't break bones or cut people. They let the SoF guys hurt the fuck out of each other in training, so they prob know whats up.

>>2604821
but anon bruce lee poularized the mma style

not being held to one style was his thing.

>>2604788
Who in their right mind would use tai chi to fight?

It's a dance martial art, not a combat one.

>>2604788
>no webm posted
I am disappoint

>>2604855
>when Tai Chi loses it's not real Tai Chi
It's not real socialism either.

>>2604861
You can look at Conor McGregor's performance in MMA now, and while he's not a Tai Chi practitioner, it's clear he gets his competitive edge from a focus on fluid movement and balance.

It's like Initial D - if you've seen it. Takumi balances a cup of water in his car while he drifts. This makes him a MUCH better racer than anybody else when he is in a battle.

>>2604865
heres the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXRZ89gzvcA

>>2604788
I know this s a bait thread, but that article is fantastic and is nowhere near the piece of shit that this thread is.

>>2604788
I don't fight but isn't it more effective to use use superior body weight to grapple a guy and slam him to the ground and beat the snot out of them?

China once again 25 years behind the Western world. Bullshit faggot traditional martial arts get blown the fuck out by MMA all day everyday.

>>2604820
You obviously have never been in a street fight. Shit almost always goes to the ground in seconds and ends up a hugging match if someone does not get the ko in the first moves.

>>2604868
That was real Tai Chi, but I don't know what this guy was expecting. He didn't throw a strike.

Should have immediately countered after the first parry, but clearly he wasn't ready to bust that guy's face.

>>2604799
Boxing where I live are dominated by Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans.

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The problem with most martial arts is that everyone just plays along. Nobody ever really fights.

It's not as bad as american taekwondo, at least.

Martial arts is a mostly all show. A real useful one because it's more modern and simple, as well as practical is sambo. Which is just an acronym for fighting system.

It doesn't have any complicated or awkward positioning (like in jiu jitsu which I respect a lot).

A useful move from it is just to pick up your opponent by the the back of their legs which makes them fall on their back and then quickly transition to ground and pounding their face in.

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>>2604861
>This is what Tai Chi should look like in the ring.
That didn't look anything like the Tai Chi everyone knows to be Tai Chi.

It's like saying Toyotas are super fast cars, but while everyone is thinking of a Corolla you're talking about pic related.

>>2604856
I'm saying with big gloves on, you have to punch harder.

Bareknuckle requires less power to get a knockout. I'm not saying boxing is ineffective, just that it comes with it's own drawbacks and predictability especially against seasoned mma fighters. I guess you could say it's converted southpaw, but watch lomechenko fight. He's doing so much more than southpaw. It's more akin to fencing and distance management, with it's quick footwork and unorthodox rhythm.

Just watch lomechenko fight. You'll see what I mean. Calling it just southpaw doesn't fit quite right.

>>2604866
I'm putting a stake in the ground. Modern Chen style is not real Tai Chi.

Chen village used to produce amazing Chen-style Tai Chi fighters. After the cultural revolution they lost that edge. There are still plenty of Yang-style instructors that train their younger, fitter students to fight. There are still some Chen lineages that produce good fighters but they are in the US, Taiwan and Canada and the fighters are mostly San Shou plus Tai Chi.

This is a problem in many Chinese martial arts. The Great Leap Forward absolutely dicked the fighting temples and villages.

>>2604788
Many arts into one combined with punches vs one art that never changes anymore.

>>2604788

lol to be fair Tai Chi is probably the worst style to represent traditional martial arts. But that guy got BTFO. what was he even thinking? Fighting on a solid floor and everything

>>2604788
>fitness instructor lost to actual fighter
Whoa, how is this even possible?

>>2604788
tai chi? why were they fighting. tai chi is meditation

Reminds me of that nigger who claimed he was trained by jesus or something getting beat to death.