Can someone tell me if this vampire stuff was cool or not

How can you not be over coming out to this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9iCTGyWj0s

18+

>>2574332
Fucking 18+ you fucking faggot

A porn star was over. Old ladies were over. A guy with a mannequin head was over. Spoiled Connecticut preps were over. Three versions of Mick Foley was over.

Everything. Was fucking. Over. It was great.

kill yourself

So popular it made Gangrel a two-time Jaenetty

>>2574332
I remember Blade coming out not long before (or maybe after) the brood first debuted & being pretty over. Anticipating random Blood Baths was my favorite part of Raw for awhile.

Looks cringey now but trust me.....the Brood, their entrance and their bloodbaths were over as fuck back then

Then again......so was damn near everybody else in WWF back then....even down to the jobbers like Kaientai

>>2574348
>>2574350
Fuck up nigga, if it's 2017 people born in 1999 are 18, way too young to be around for the attitude era.

>>2574350
Vince Russo did this

>>2574357
Fuckin kaientai

>>2574364
Kaientai was fucking awesome and more over than 95% of today's SHIT.

>>2574347
They were sick but wwe booked them to fail

>>2574359
Cool autism FAGGOT

>>2574379
you're washed up, old man

>>2574332
They were cooler than any vampire not named dracula or nosferatu

>>2574350
>A porn star was over. Old ladies were over. A guy with a mannequin head was over. Spoiled Connecticut preps were over. Three versions of Mick Foley was over.

A pimp was over.

Two manlet gooks that couldn't speak English were over.

Two wiggers and a fat Samoan in a giant thong that rubbed people's faces in his ass were over.

We could do this all night.

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>>2574387
WHY DOES IT SUCK SO MUCH NOW?!

>>2574387
>HHH.
>Not over.

LMAO.

>>2574350

A literal group of sideshow freaks (Oddities) was over

>>2574399
Mannequin head OVER

Mop OVER

Can of beer OVER

>>2574332
Vampires were so fucking cool in the 90s the only thing cooler were fucking aliens and dinosaurs. I remember this thing not lasting that long but it wasnt some super failed shit.

>>2574350
Capped cause of truth.

>>2574411

Bruh.

A sock was over.

A fucking SOCK, my nigga.

That era was amazing.

no they were not that over which is why it was so short

>>2574396
KEK

>>2574427
18+

>>2574353
Top kek. Underrated.

>>2574350
>>2574387
>>2574411
>>2574418

eDrones edroning their nostalgic youth of edroning.

>>2574332
Everything was over back in the days. Not like now where everything has people hating on it.

>>2574332
Everything was over, but The Brood was actually badass back then. Their theme and entrance was GOAT.

>>2574538
Go watch your bingo hall choreographed gymnastics you fat idiot

My homie who is a casual always says the Brood should reform.

>>2574332
Edge gave Brood the "cool" factor, before he joined it was just fat ass Gangrel and they didn't let Christian speak

Was only over with northerners and males age 11 and under.
Most people were bored to tears or hated that shit. It nearly killed Edge and Christian's careers before they got off the ground!

Young kids' nostalgia made them the meme team they are known as today; they're more over today than they ever were in the attitude era.

>>2574548
Internet and dirt sheets weren't as potent back in those days so the crowds and viewers at home watched the shows with a open mind and didn't give wrestlers pre conceived hate or love.

If Tajiri or Funaki were 27 years old today these smark neckbeard fags would try to push them to the WWE title.

Legiy question who wasn't over during the Attitude Era?

>>2574350
>tfw popped hard as a kid when mae young gave moolah the bronco buster

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>>2574412
>the only thing cooler were fucking aliens

yeah that shit was fucking over

>>2574693
WWE doesn't own the name Gangrel so that's why they haven't been back together.

but that's also bullshit to me because they can easily rename him "Gangrell" or "Gangreil" or "Gang Rell" or some other shit and get away with it.

>>2574768

Jeff Jarrett, Lance Storm, At least half of Right to Censor before that stable gave them the right kind of heat.

Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. Almost everybody else I can remember had somebody who gave a crap about them.

>>2574768
Bob Holly

Crash and Molly were over, not him.

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>>2574768
Marc Mero

>>2574831

Lance Storm wasn't really part of the Attitude Era imo, so he doesn't count

Jarrett is a great example. The only time people paid any attention to him was when he brought out Debra and interacted with her as a heel. Debra was WAY more over than him. If Jarrett was a face then maybe the crowd would have popped for him by association with Debra

Marc Mero had basically the same problem with Sable, that Jarrett had with Debra. Heel asshole boyfriend/husband that nobody cared about; but the woman is hot so she's over as fuck

T&A, Test and Albert weren't really over as a team, even with Trish Stratus as a valet. Albert first came in with some body piercing gimmick then he teamed with Test...but he never caught on. Test was at least over as a solo wrestler ever since the Stephanie angle (although he started to fizzle out with the crowd once that ended)

Viscera and Mideon I feel weren't over individually despite being part of the Ministry. They were lesser minions under the APA and were almost non-existent outside of the group's activities

Stevie Richards and Bull Buchanan of RTC got heat along with the group, but I don't think the crowd ever cared for them outside of that group, unlike the other RTC members

Hardcore Holly himself wasn't really over despite being associated with Crash who was very over

Everybody else was either over by themselves, or over as an individual mainly because the crowd knew they were part of a stable/tag team that was over. People who the crowd normally wouldn't give a shit about solo, got over because of who they were associated with, e.g. Billy Gunn (DX) and Brian Christopher (Too Cool)

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Guys, can you help me understand something?

Gangrel stole his name from a tabletop/RPG setting called Vampire: The Masquerade.
Now, in Vampire: The Masquerade, THIS is what a Gangrel looks like, this is Beckett, one of the most famous Gangrel in the setting.

Gangrels in the World of Darkness can turn into beasts, changing their body to grow huge claws to rip shit open up close, but also control beasts to send after people at range and other tasks.
My question is, he knew what a Gangrel is, why the fuck did he not incorporate ANYTHING from them into his gimmick?

It puzzles me because going "I fuck all the bitches" doesn't go against V:TM lore, every single clan fucks bitches, even nosfies fuck bitches in their sewers when their dick hasn't fallen off yet.
Gangrels mingle with animals so they fuck literal bitches, too.
He could've been "i fuck all the bitches" but also "i can turn into a badass animal" too.
Makes no sense to me.
And it's not like it would be a ridiculous gimmick we've all seen stupider and crazier shit over the years.

>>2574971
You should check out Bruce Prichard's podcast, Something To Wrestle With.
He explains in episode 13 that when the Gangrel approached Vince with the idea of using a Vampire gimmick but Vince and his team turned it down flat. Then, that same week, a local penny saver newspaper ran a story about the underground vampire scene in Stamford, CT.
Turns out vampires had a huge following so Vince was back in, and Edge and Christian were included, but it seemed that the gimmick was to get Sexton Hardcastle aka Edge over the most.
Gangrel is lucky to have had any say-so whatsoever.
That's how it came across in the podcast at least.

also, i can not recommend Something To Wrestle With enough. someone here mentioned it and I'm glad I followed through and checked it out. It's fucking amazing.

>>2574971
I can't help but wonder the same thing, to an extent. If Gangrel showed up 5 years earlier, then they probably would have went with the cartoony "I can become an animal" side of things. But with the way he was just a vampire who wrestled, I would have called him Brujah instead.

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>>2574986
Shit.
Vince, of course.
It's always fucking Vince, i should've known better.

And yeah i follow some wrestling podcasts, a specific one especially but i'm sure everyone here would call them shit tier so i won't even name them.

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>>2574998
yes, like >>2574992 said Vince thought a vampire gimmick was like Bela Lugosi's Dracula when Gangrel approached with the idea, and not the Blade / vampire raver gimmick Gangrel was shooting for

>>2574944
Good post tbqh

Tbqh tho i think billy gunn got over after dx. Road dogg didnt tho

>>2574332
18+

Vampires were cool in the 90s. Fucking Buffy, interview with the vampire, bram strokers Dracula, cradle of filth

>>2575017
It blows my mind that people to this day unironically think interview with the vampire was the start of the downfall of vampires in pop culture and they put it on the same level as twilight.

It's like nobody actually read the fucking thing.
How, as soon as the protagonists changes, it describes how he sees Lestat behind the "illusion", as a grotesque, monstrous predator with all his previous grace stripped away as the superficial facade that it actually was.

There's so much grim shit in that book, it's very respectful towards vampires, it's nothing like the huge shit twilight took all over them.

>>2574332
I thought it was lame and stupid. I was around 13 at the time.

anybody remember "yeah nig"?

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Their entrance was great. Other than that, they were boring and bland.

>>2574768

Perry Saturn and Taker are two that spring to mind.

>>2575033
I remember it being a dumb forced /woo/ meme in 2013 or whatever and there were people fighting over who created that shit tier meme.


Probably you since it was so fucking dumb.

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>>2575060

>Ministry Taker Not Over
>Not being so over they successfully created spin off wrestler Kane who got over in his right.

It's like you never watched AE.

>not fangin and bangin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb6QHc_pCYE

>>2574944
that's true about RTC. making stevie the leader was a huge mistake, should have easily been val, ivory, or godfather.

stevie is better suited for support roles, he did pretty good with victoria

>>2575060
Perry Saturn got a fucking mop over

>>2574350
Mean Street Posse was never over.

Al Snow was less over than Head was over.

Moolah and Mae were never over.

>>2574768
Mideon

>>2574768
Things that were seen as hangovers from the previous era were kind of see as boring:

any of the gang war factions, the remnants of DOA, Los Boricos. Nation was seen as tedious once Rocky left, like they had run their course. Headbangers weren't really over. Big Bossman and Jeff Jarrett weren't over. The Radicalz weren't over.

>>2574986

Roll Tide.

#ItsMillerTime

>>2574418
To be fair Jericho got a clipboard over.

>>2574768
Almost the entire midcard and tag division until like late '99.

>>2574718
I'm gonna have to agree. As great as E&C are in hindsight, I can't remember anybody who didn't prefer the Hardys or the Dudleys or even the APA back then.

>>2574986
The same reason Christian didn't come out dressed as an apostle. It's just a name and you're autistic.

>>2574332
back then literary everything was filler until stone cold the rock or mick foley came out and did or said something crazy, this was just background noise

>>2575187
The tag division was strong in the attitude era.

A lot of it was feeding people to New Age Outlaws, but it was good and had direction.

The midcard was absolutely stacked with guys the crowd loved, either for their skill or their gimmick.

>>2574332
Literally the only person who wasn't over in the AE was HHH

>>2575251
This is almost entirely true, in fact.

Jeff Jarrett was the guy who got the most "Oh ffs, really?" reaction every time he appeared, but HHH was a close second for most of the time.

>>2575251
>>2575255
I really enjoy how no matter what trips tries, he went as far as fucking the boss daughter even, but he will never be over no matter what he does.

>>2575251
He was very over as a face in '98 and was very over as a heel in 2000.

>>2575290
DX was over not him

Steph was over not him

>>2575060

18+

Ministry Taker was based as all hell and was definitely over. Arguably the greatest phase of his career character-wise.

>>2574768
Bart Gunn, that Doctor Death guy, that brief team the truth commission, Dan Severn, the early run of too cool without Rikishi, PMS with that Meat guy

>>2575251
He did pick up what was left of DX and made it work even though Shawn was the main reason DX was over in the first place. Some of Triple H best mic work was during this time and he pulled off the comedy angle relatively well. So that is saying something in that he made DX work and continue successfully.

>>2574332
brood was based as fuck

Theme and entrance were way over.

it was growing so they squashed it fast.

>>2575414

Oh shit I forgot all these but you're right

Kurrgan was another victim of "big scary guy turned into fun dancing giant" but in his case it was for the better. He didn't get over being serious in the Truth Commission (I don't even remember the other members from that stable), but he got over in the Oddities

Too Cool was a great example of how a few simple changes can turn around someone's career. Nobody gave a shit about them as Too Much at first. All they needed was some hip hop outfits, some dancing and a catchy theme and they were over as fuck. Fat dancing Rikishi made them even more over.

PMS never got over, although Jacqueline herself was fairly over with the crowd on her own due to being one of the hot women around that period. Terri Runnels pretty much stopped being over once Goldust left her. I remember the guy named Meat but I cant even remember what he looked like

>>2575142
>Headbangers weren't really over.

The Headbangers were one of the less notable tag teams but they still got some fairly decent pops...I would say they were somewhat over

But you reminded me about another team that wasn't over: D'Lo and Chaz (Lo Down). Chaz (Mosh) was worthless outside of the Headbangers gimmick, and that god-awful short-lived Beaver Cleavage gimmick did him absolutely no favors. D'Lo Brown who was previously very over and had one of the better midcard runs, lost a lot of steam and got depushed due to crippling Droz. So putting those two together was a dud.

The Attitude Era had a few duds, but had way more hits than misses.

>>2575426

This

Definitely liked DX because of him, definitely rooted for him over the rock in summer slam 98, shortly after that I was over it

>>2574538
>Gook cuck SEETHING at the fact that the idiotic manlets he jacks off to literally kill themselves for golf claps

>>2575456
Meat was Shawn Staziak.

>>2574347
Loved the theme song.

>>2575456
Kurrgan couldn't wrestle and had no presence, couldn't play to the crowd, etc. Bull Buchanan was also in the Truth Commission before he was paired with Bossman (my favorite incarnation of Bull; proto-Shield). I also think the guy that was Mantaur was in the Truth Commission. They were lead by the Jackyl before he briefly managed the Acolytes before he was released.

>>2575456
Jacqueline was one of the better women wrestler because Skandar Akbar trained her. Only girl in the class.

This thread makes me a little sad, what the fuck happened?, where's all the fun?, where did all the charisma go?, why now three's barely any more gimmicks now?, Matt did it, matt fuckin hardy of all people did it, how come the wwe can't do something at least that good?

Fuck, remember Kane getting into the ring?, that sole fact was fucking badass, and even when he lost a lot of matches he never looked like a jobber, you could put him against anyone and it always made you think "oh damn, that poor guy will have it rough!". I just don't know man, I watch the attitude stuff on the network and it's weird seeing how all the titles meant something, how even mid-carders and jobbers were over as fuck too, and now you have a fucking ocean of crickets for the most part while WWE keeps doing retarded shit all over the place.

>>2574350
Even Pat Patterson and Gerald Brisco got over

Listen to that fucking pop they got when they started beating up MSP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SFcTz0wQHY

They even got a tag team run from this

>>2575731
JR can call grass growing and itll be great

Fans used to go to the shows to have fun and WWF wanted to give them a fun time. It was the perfect marriage.

Now, fans go to evaluate the booking and the WWE puts on shows to put smiles on kids faces. This shit fucking sucks.

>>2575748
this is incredible accurate

>>2575060
18+

He was the most over Radical at the time when he had Moppy.

>>2575060
>ministry taker
>not over

https://youtu.be/mI2QcqbsXME?t=1m6s

>>2575748
>tfw WWE always wanted to give a fun time to people who wanted it and now only children want that because everyone else is busy complaining

>>2576255
>He was the most over Radical at the time when he had Moppy

People forget this because Eddie soon became the most over after that followed by Benoit

>>2574538
you excited for Shibata's next match my dude?

>>2575426
One of the few compliments I'm willing to give Triple H is that he was surprisingly great as leader of DX around that time