Let's talk about the Muscle Buster How much would it hurt

>>2000283
Ya the actual move will fuck you up

I don't like the move for this exact reason, it's clearly meant to give the effect of looking like the same move, but it's done so safely that it's reduced to a suplex. Same with the brainbuster. Worst thing is it still isn't even safe, look at Tyson Kidd.

They should stick to moves which are easy to fake, or which are safe bit painful looking. If you have to neuter a move to make it safe, don't do it at all.

>>2000286
You can do most moves safely, it just depends on how often you do them or take them. Those "big match moves" need time between each other. It's perfectly possible to take a tiger driver 91, kawada driver or burning hammer and not die or have significant damage done if you can just put up with a shitty neck for a week even if you are wrestling just instead working safe tag matches ala road to NJPW show type matches.

Bryan's neck and back are fucked because of his flying drop kick, diving headbutt and running dropkick but mostly from doing the moves like 4 times a week with fuck all down time and rest between doing them. Tyson Kidd even admitted that his neck was already fucked before he even wrestled joe. If you want to blame anything for retarded injuries especially in the WWE even after they tone it down, blame their absolute shit schedule. Ask yourself, how is it Shibata wrestles perfectly fine for years despite the shit he goes through in every big match but fucking half the WWE roster goes inbetween injuried and not injuried like every month while wrestling short, generally much safer matches?

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>>2000283
That move is way to fucking dangerous. Basically all of you weight comes down right on your neck.